What does it take to sign Juan Soto Debate - The Michael Kay Show TMKS June 4 2024

[@snerdterguson]

Money shouldn't be an issue with the kids. By the time Volpe set to get paid, Stanton is gone, by the time it is Martians turn, Cole is off the books, by the time Spencer Jones or whoever is due, Rodon has finished his contract. Provided the prospects pan out, it is how you build a sustainable contender. It helps that one area Cashman has excelled in, is building bullpens off of low cost castaways from other teams and prospects with high end stuff from our own system. It has been a while since the Yankees signed a high price reliever. Only issues I see financially are if EVERY one of the kids we call up plays to their ceiling. Because if Volpe, Dominguez, Jones, Arias, Gil, etc all are star level players, that's a ton of money they'll cost eventually.

[@CMed14]

"Juan Soto is transcendent and will make everything great". What happened with the Padres last year? What happened with Trout and Ohtani in Anaheim? If that's your argument you've already lost. Elite and generation talent or not it's still a TEAM GAME.

[@edwinrosario4919]

That's why you can throw all the money you want to it doesn't guarantee winning titles,the couple of teams that can spend the most haven't won titles recently, with the exception of the short season in 2020 when dodgers won, what was the payroll of the rangers who won last year? Baseball is definitely a team game

[@dbreiden83080]

Remember the Yankees had Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez playing together in their primes for years. The result was one World Series championship in 2009 and only one World Series appearance. Don is pretty delusional on this.

[@Wolverine8091]

Somehow padres sucks big time this year and last years, they have 3 300 million contract players and they both sucks

[@p00l95]

Yep. money can't buy you a ring. ask the dodgers.

[@raybohn5753]

2015 was 9 years ago, Don.

[@samuelirizarry7473]

And they didn’t win either lol

[@NYCCamper]

All that cohen money, he still wasn't able to buy ohtani and yamamoto😂.

[@patricksainclair2384]

He was saving for Soto

[@brandondillman5841]

I don't think they were ever in on Ohtani.

[@ambiorixacevedo]

Mets fan dont understand that none of thier big contract have work out...either they get trade or hurt... only if players want to sit out their playing career they sign there...

[@p00l95]

Skankee fans will cry when soto leaves the bronx shithole

[@orlfane1622]

Neither one of them were ever coming to an East Coast team. Too far away from Japan.

[@christianjc8973]

If the Yankees win the World Series I’d offer him 50 million a year for 13 years. If he says no I’d move on.

[@gerhardscheiderer4726]

And if they don't win the world series then what?

[@jhaokeh5327]

⁠@@gerhardscheiderer4726gotta pray that we do, we have no idea if Soto is coming back especially since Hal said the payroll isn’t sustainable

[@NarkoHamponTV]

Anything the Mets touch goes to sh… not even worth talking about it 💯

[@Lark572]

You just don’t get it. He’s had Yankee stadium roll call happen for him. He’s played with judge. You think you’re peeling him away from that?

[@daguelmyestevez]

If he’s offered more money yeah

[@willandizzle]

I’m sure he loves that. But he’ll like an extra 10 million a year more.

[@Lark572]

@@willandizzle You guys think the Mets will outbid the Yankees by that much?! What world do you live in???

[@alecbormia4523]

@@Lark572the world where the owner of the Yankees couldn’t even admit that he was okay with having a 300 mil payroll while Cohen spent the most in the history of the sport on the 2023 Mets.

[@Lark572]

@@alecbormia4523 That was then. Now Cohen has 70 mil in dead money and is rethinking everything. Soto isn’t leaving the Yankees for the Mets dude get serious.

[@HillMadeMedia]

Don hating is getting tired now

[@zcorpalpha2462]

After a year, Kay finally admits that San Francisco wanted Judge 😂 Geez 🥃🔥

[@dbreiden83080]

Kay is 100% saying Soto is gone. We know Yankees won’t have highest offer.. Doesn’t mean he’s right about Soto leaving but he’s saying it..

[@Platerpus7]

Kay works for the Yankees. He can’t be saying they are going to do everything to get him.

[@Landis_Grant]

If the Yankees lose the Wild Card playoff series, Soto isn’t returning. If Soto loves NYC’s Dominican community, he would play for the Mets should Steve Cohen offers him the largest free agent bid.

[@itsmemanny5826]

Everyone of Scotts agent signed for less than they wanted to last season

[@brandondillman5841]

None of them were superstars. Soto is.

[@Scotto6977]

Not intentionally

[@jessc.8510]

Is not just that he’s a good player. He’s also a influence in the team. U can clearly see that with the Yankees. Everyone in the Yankees now have a better at bat than before including judge.

[@maxdubs222]

Soto on the Mets makes them a wild card team. Soto on the Yankees turned them into a title contender

[@Platerpus7]

Mets need more than Soto.

[@brettandersson3206]

I think Soto also saw what happened to Bellinger, Snell, and Montgomery this year. Boras held out so long that none of them got a spring training and now Snell is hurt, Bellinger is hurt, and Montgomery is not good. It’s only June, but it’s getting late awfully early. Soto will go where the money takes him, but I really don’t think Hal lets him walk.

[@frankcoronajr4317]

Of course if someone offers a crazy amount more than the yanks than yeah he leaves. But the annoying part of this convo is that we are acting like the yanks are gonna get crazy outbid. Let's not forget the yanks offered the most per year for Yamamoto knowing they had to pay Soto still

[@keyamazed1038]

Almost puked in my mouth when Kay mentioned alpha males. It's been scientifically proven that that's not how wolf hierarchies in the wild work. It only comes across as super cringe.

[@ohitsmeolivia]

I agree that we don’t know what his is going to do. But everyone seems to forget that the Lerner family was looking to sell the nationals. Maybe he didn’t want to sign a huge contract with a team that was going to have new ownership. Ownership was looking for Soto to be a big selling piece to potential buyers. Plus the deal didn’t have great aav.

[@cmorales5]

The Nationals ARENT the Yankees. Not the best argument from Kay.

[@23skidoo46]

the number is gonna start at $60mil a year and go up. good luck

[@32250craigmartin]

In 92 Boras represented Greg Maddox, who took less money from the Braves than the Yankees offered. A-Rod also claims he took less to stay with the Yankees. I don't believe him.

[@g311music]

Michael Kay the Nationals low balled him and he knew his worth! Soto knew the Nationals were in a rebuild and he didn’t want to be part of a losing franchise they got rid of everyone from their championship year why would he stay? Soto will make more with the Yankees with endorsements and he knows his star and legacy is much brighter in the Bronx than with the Mets if he wanted to stay on a loser team and be as Kay say the alpha male he would have just stayed with Washington! Kay is wrong on all levels, Kay just loves to ruffle Yankees fans feathers!

[@edwinrosario4919]

I agree with you to certain extent,the outrageous contracts that are being given to these players makes it look like the players just care about money. I will say that Kay is worried because of boras but at the end of the day the players make the final decision where they go and what contract they sign he's giving too much power to boras like he makes the final decisions,he screwed his players last year so his tactic of holding out backfired on him, the only difference is that this time he's got one of the best players in the game,Sotos talent sells itself

[@g311music]

@@edwinrosario4919 I agree with you Soto or any player is not going to sign with let’s just say with Tampa Bay because they offered 10 extra million dollars per year at 10 years! Players who are on the top of their game choose where they want to play case and point Ohtani Judge and Soto are the best 3 players in baseball you can throw Mookie in there too he signed an extension with the dodgers after being traded Ohtani and Judge both picked where they wanted to play, Kay is aggravating because he talks about the Yankees like they shouldn’t over spend on players because it’s not smart business! To that I say oh really let’s check the books after this season is over and see if signing the best players is not a good business decision! The Yankees are going to make record setting profits this season and in all honesty the Soto trade is paying for itself. I’m just sick of Kay he is a negative Nancy all the time! They are the New York Yankees Soto wants to play there they better do everything in their power to sign him if they don’t do it they will regret it for a very long time! Kay didn’t even want the Yankees to spend on Judge because of his age and because he wanted 9 years he kept saying the Yankees won’t give him that 9th year but Hal is smart he knows who puts the asses in the seats, it’s not Michael Kay that’s for sure!

[@dbreiden83080]

If you listen to Michael on his comments, he’s basically telling Yankee fans expect him to leave. We know Hal is not going to offer the highest salary year. Aaron Judge took less to stay. I don’t know if Michael believes that, but he’s definitely telling Yankee fans Soto is going to leave if you really listen.

[@g311music]

@@dbreiden83080 I know where Kay stands he was wrong about Judge and he’s wrong about a lot of things he is always pessimistic! I get it he doesn’t want to have egg on his face when things don’t happen but to always insinuate that the Yankees only play by their own rules and won’t bend for anyone is ridiculous, when it’s a generational type player you bend the knee a little it not like we’re talking about Alex Verdugo who I like but wouldn’t stretch a contract for him like I would Soto or Judge!

[@carlosalbertogonzalezgayta6510]

If the Mets sign Soto they’ll be the hot trending team entering the 2025 season

[@brockpodgurski6144]

I think Soto had the mind to be a career National, but that changed when the whole team left. He turned down the Nationals because he wasn't going to spend his prime in a perennial rebuild. He wants to win. Again, my opinion.

[@jaymanjay3.0]

Love Soto and want him to stay but the Yankees should be able to win a World Series even without Soto. If Dominguez and Jones and Ben Rice are what they say they are than the Yankees have tremendous backup plans that are way cheaper

[@ERizzo5]

I agree. Yankees have sustained success. And if this is the beginning of a long career of Gil playing like this…we are here to stay.

[@reapercuss]

Yes, I actually think he would take a pay cut. He basically is guaranteed every year to make the playoffs. He’s hitting with the best slugger in the game. NY adores him. NY is a prime area for endorsements. Did we forget the poor job Boras did for his clients this year? I know Soto is not like those clients but, there has to be some sort of hesitation now with his current clients.

[@user-bmw528]

1 baseball player doesn’t impact a team like the NBA or a NFL QB. Plenty of terrible MLB teams in history had 1 elite player.

[@vincentsaia6545]

Calm down, Michael. We get the point. Soto will go where the $$$ is.

[@killersmg]

The Mets need to build from within trade guys get prospects and still spend money just not on 1 guy and expect it to fix everything we need everything right now I’d rather slow and steady then quick and nothing

[@robbiegarnz7732]

Don spends a full minute making the case for why Soto will want to stay with the Yankees..then tries to say he won’t . Lol!! Incidentally Hal’s comments were made in reference to not wanting to pay twice as much as everyone else for the same players. Plus we have a ton of money coming off the books, so signing Soto is not too far fetched.

[@poplar21]

He will kick himself if he ends up in a met uniform .

[@lionjark]

Winning and going to the playoffs year in and year out dont matter? I disagree and I'm a Met fan...

[@MattJune-fh4eo]

I agree with u i hope soto stays with Yankees but biras is a problem

[@axeltorres3647]

Judge and Soto will bring in s revenue of 300 million a year to the team

[@Jah_Wicks]

Don been hating on the yanks a lil this year, Soto wins here I believe we open the books for him as much as we can

[@Mikeysweats]

There is no way that Juan Soto goes to the Mets. he wants to win games and enjoy his playing experience. Aaron Judge and Juan Soto is Shaq and Kobe. Hal is not going to be beat.

[@Platerpus7]

For some reason Michael can’t do the math to see the nationals offered Soto 29 million a year. Yes it was 440 million but it was borderline insulting.

[@reapercuss]

Let’s not act like the Yankees aren’t going to offer Soto over $600m. But if Cohen offers $1B then yes he would leave but I mean, do we really think that’ll happen?

[@user-vx5qg7hj5t]

550 for 10 years

[@JsmithVB757]

I think Soto signs back with the Nats. They will have a ton of cheap talented kids like James Woods, Dylan Crews, and CJ Abrams, among others. Also, Soto's little brother is in the Nats Farm system.

[@angelozuna3743]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mw2beast11]

I get who his agent is. But i dont think soto takes 10m more to goto a team thats not a contender. 26 year old im his prime going to a losing organization, wont happen

[@charliedolengewicz2400]

😂😂😂😂Mets are irrelevant right now 😂😂😂😂😂 they have been irrelevant since the 1980’s

[@Jayoplantern]

Don is a joke

[@Scotto6977]

Nothing gets my fellow Yankees fans more triggered than saying Soto might sign somewhere else

[@dannyneiba]

If Soto signs with Mets he’ll demand an opt out after 1 year. Also Soto saying he loved Washington, ummm , yea,,, no

[@ERizzo5]

🤣

[@nickr3441]

The Ohtani contract is bad for baseball

[@ambiorixacevedo]

Steve is not that dumb.. he tried the expending money didnt work... he stil hvae over 100M on other teams..with the Astros situation Verlander will get 120IP this season.. and his 43.5M will kick in... Yankees have 98.5M coming off the book plus 25M from that ugly patch... they are able to let Verdugo, Torres, Rizzo, gooo... They can fill left field with Judge, Dominguez at CF 3rd and 2B can be fill with Pereza,Arias ,Lombard JR .. and First base can we got, Agustine, Ben Rice, S Jones even Judge can move to 1B , He is already taking reps theres because he knows his future... All Yankees need to do is Sign Soto and Corbin Burnes it will they can backload each contract untill Stanton, Rodon are off the book... so theres no excuse...

[@edwinrosario4919]

Even if I wasn't a Yankee fan if I was Soto I would rather play on a team that does whatever it takes to win every year rather than play for a team that just throws the most money and isn't close to winning like the yankees,didn't he reject the nationals offer because he didn't want to be a part of a rebuild?that's what he would be doing if he goes to the Mets? Isn't winning championships the reason they play the game,staying with the yanks is a no Brainer he's still gonna get payed there's just a ceiling that the yanks can't pass

[@thomasdowney54]

As an orioles fan hearing him talk about it being unfair Mets owner can throw a bunch of extra money at Soto. I understand what he’s trying to say, but it’s still funny.

[@morrissolomon-jw7xn]

Why Peter? He adds nothing to the program. Can’t stand looking at him

[@josephforte7589]

He had the best pitchers and look what he did with that!!

[@evild7571]

Yanks will defer some cash and have a large contract full of incentives etc . He is not going anywhere. They will make it work

[@Notchibald_Johnson]

Soto has to want money deferred.

[@juanpena7436]

I agree if Cohen loses him mind this winter I don't think Soto stays with Yanks

[@dbreiden83080]

He’s not signing with the Mets no matter what the offer is. That’s a freaking clown show over in Queens right now. It’s not happening.

[@MPTB00]

Clown Yankee fans lmao

[@dannythomas9623]

@@dbreiden83080 ok casual

[@dannythomas9623]

@@dbreiden83080you couldn’t be any more wrong

[@jimboscooter432]

There's no way Soto is dumb enough to sign with the lolmets

[@gilbertmartinezjr.9010]

I have a gut feeling one soda will sign with the New York Yankees with the grace of God he wants to stay with the yankees.❤

[@nickrusso2910]

Soto likes to win. I think he would stay with the Yankees for 20 million dollars less.

[@LAWMethod]

Half a bil

[@orlfane1622]

Just greedy if he chooses the Mets over the Yankees because of money. Why would you want to play for a joke of an organization. The Yankees are the top stage among all team sports. You think you're the best. Prove it in pinstripes buddy.

[@sergeyyakubovsky7259]

If Yankees win the world series , they wont sign Soto.

[@axeltorres3647]

No one has more money then God lol so claim down I would give 60 million for 5 years then team and player options of 80 after that

[@axeltorres3647]

his going be 31 in 5 years

[@willandizzle]

He isn’t gonna take that.

[@guard099]

Blah blah blah ..nobody knows what hes gonna do ! Quit guessing

[@Jayoplantern]

Yankees let Cano walked and he never was heard from again. Soto can go to the Mets or the Giants and be on a losing team for a decade

[@guard099]

youre really comparing Cano with Soto come on now

[@Jayoplantern]

@@guard099 I am not comparing the players I am saying he can leave and be like Cano on a losing team

[@guard099]

@@Jayoplantern my bad ..gotcha

[@charliedolengewicz2400]

The Mets are hot garbage they would need to give him 100 mill a year to play there

[@brandondillman5841]

I think the Giants will go after him hard. They've missed out on everybody including Judge. They have a ton of money to spend.

[@dbreiden83080]

Yankees may decide the price is too high. They have Dominguez coming back and a very crowded outfield..

[@charliedolengewicz2400]

@@dbreiden83080 true but don’t you think that with judge they would need to get him more time at DH than the outfield you can keep them all and move on from Stanton

[@dbreiden83080]

Can’t move on from Stanton for several more years unfortunately. I think eventually they probably want Aaron judge to play first base. But I don’t know if that’s happening next season?

[@brandondillman5841]

@@dbreiden83080 it would be the smart thing to do. At least DH him once a week and get him in LF or RF. You can't put somebody at his size and age in CF and expect him to play a full season at 100%. Not to mention his injury history.

[@pitowil6321]

Soto will be a Yankee

[@josephforte7589]

San Francisco is a joke of a citie