What Does John Danaher REALLY Think About The SMOTHER TAP?

[@michaelfavata2720]

"Let's get a few things straight. Smothering someone--asphyxiating someone--it's not for everyone" hits different out of context. My true crime loving gf came straight over looking to hear a serial killer talk about his methods 😂

[@jiujudo1307]

Erik Paulson's was doing this choke 30 years ago. He called it "Mothers Milk."

[@BigBoss877]

Yeppppp

[@dirtkills]

Eddies gonna call it the motorboat in the 10p encyclopedia

[@samuelemeryjiujitsu]

It's still the mothers milk

[@AmericanJohnGrass]

Did it to me at a seminar

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

He also was the first person to put out Full no gi instructionals and heel hooks.

[@Abettergrappler]

The "Mother's Milk" is a perfect blend of EPO and Tren. Use the EPO to tire your opponent out and the size gain of Tren to cut off all oxygen routes.

[@lemonjoose3624]

lmfao

[@tatecomedy]

Thank you this is truly inspirational

[@Sheahova]

them pecks get real good at smothering on gear

[@LIONTAMER3D]

John Danaher: "breathing is essential to jiujitsu & denying your opponent air to breathe greatly diminishes their ability to grapple..."

[@mmadmbjm]

John Danaher speaks with such clarity.😊

[@Markle_B]

This man is an absolute pioneer genius of BJJ, and I’d like to thank him for his service to the sport ❤

[@jesusrocks256]

John never says in two minutes what can be said in four.

[@josephlabianca9557]

“A man can’t breathe he can’t fight” - Terry Silver

[@---tx9xx]

Well said

[@bmiliten]

I believe after Gordon pressure tapped Jacob Couch the Smother Tap was created All Jiu jitsu practitioners have tapped or felt like tapping from HEAVY HEAVY top pressure The Smother tap now adds a functional option to submit someone

[@Dreaming-11]

That was already happening in the gyms for many years, just not much on championships

[@harmonicproportions6588]

It happened with that really fat guy in Pride

[@Name-ql7jf]

If you think Gordon and Danaher invented this you are mistaken. It’s been hit several times in comps over the years.

[@owengrantjj]

Gordon didn’t smother Couch, he sat on his diaphragm and broke his posture so much that Couch tapped from asphyxiation/exhaustion without being smothered.

[@kaibe5241]

@@owengrantjjhis shoulder joints were also getting really fucked up.

[@timothycarey3883]

John said in a nice way it only works on people who suck.

[@Elitestudiosdc]

Lmao

[@user-nk3re4dj5h]

Jacob Couch does not suck...

[@nooneatall5612]

@@user-nk3re4dj5h Jacob Couch was not tapped with a smother, he tapped to S mount

[@prithvib8662]

@@nooneatall5612 Which isn't even a submission

[@timothycarey3883]

@@user-nk3re4dj5h no he doesnt but he also didnt tap from a smother it was pressure from s mount as he was about to get armbared and knew he couldnt defend it the was his arms were positioned.

[@HansDavidian]

Smother tap is my favorite submission these days & I am a 130-lbs dude. I even hit some on 200 plus pounders.

[@andrewb5412]

I been trying it. Haven't perfected it yet. Any tips 😅

[@eliasjr1049]

I think you can pull that off on the practicing room. Sometimes people tap because they're kinda stuck and tap to move on. In a tournament i think you will face a different outcome, especially on high level.

[@brendanBJJ]

@@andrewb5412step one: head and arm grip in the mount. 2: jack the other arm for double unders. 3: get both of your arms under their neck while you keep the under hooks. Their arms should be above their head and your hands should be hugging their shoulders pretty much. 5: get their head directly in between your pecs, it’s okay if untouched don’t really have a big chest, placement is key. Apply pressure so they can’t turn their head away, they should be looking straight into your chest. 6: apply pressure SLOWLY. You want them to slowly realize there’s no way out as they lose air. If you apply pressure and just squeeze hard you can gas yourself and they can wait it out. Keep mounting the pressure slowly and when you’re pushing in as hard as possible, start to squeeze slowly too. They will tap if you did it all correctly. Grapevine is optional to prevent them from panick bridging/bumping

[@derrickrobinson7269]

Lol really? Are you smother tapping them in NoGi? And are these big dudes colored belts? I wonder if body type matters as well. You seem pretty compact for 130lbs so I assume you are shorter and therefore tighter. I'm 6'2 165lbs I will never be able to take away as much space as you, but like John said, certain subs are better for certain bodies

[@francis-olivierbureau9673]

I did it a couple times by accident on white belts but they don’t really know danger. I am pretty sure Danaher talks about two athletes at black belt level.

[@k0nsama]

when the rash guard is sweaty it's a waterboarding baby

[@guapybalboa1927]

Its fucking terrible, I got put in this friday twice. One persons rash guard completely covrred my mouth and nose like a wet plastic bag and the second dripped warm sweat in my mouth like a faucet

[@kasperfesselmller4028]

Yummy

[@awerawer0708]

@@guapybalboa1927 reading this made me gag man LMAO

[@lastmanstanding5423]

​@@awerawer0708 I think the most disgusting thing that ever happened to me while rolling was: The guy was in mount and was going for the Mother's Milk move. I wasn't tapping. Wasn't panicking. Wasn't too bothered by it. So he shifted upward... and that slight shift pulled my eyelid up as well. So my eyeball was stuck to his sweaty disgusting rashguard. In literally moments I was fighting with my life on the line to create enough space so I can close my eyelid. LOL I didn't even care if I got choked out. I didn't care if I got tapped out. I just wanted my eyelid closed. Fing disgusting ps. He ended up tapping me with an Mounted Triangle if I remember correctly.

[@OsvaldoHurtado02]

One of my to-go submissions. Such a dominant way of finishing your opponent. I once hit it in a purple belt absolute finals tournament.

[@InVancouverBC66]

Love it, too. Mouth smothers included.

[@frankdelgado8348]

@VancouverGuy1 aren’t mufflers illegal?

[@tucker0214]

People did this at my old gym and it was kinda like frowned at to tap to pressure we would also do it with knee on belly and plum grip so your pulling them into your knee as your outing the knee threw them to the ground it sucks…

[@MrCmon113]

You're suffocating someone with your chest while your knee is on their belly?

[@BigBoss877]

Old moves rediscovered

[@statictech7]

Is it a smother? I had a judo guy tell me he could hold me down so i let him try it on me and it just hurt my shoulder. I got out because he didn’t understand how to keep mount. But if i didn’t get out quickly i think my shoulder may have been in jeopardy.

[@coolcoati1909]

If he was hurting your shoulder in the progress then it either wasnt a good smother choke or he was trying something else😅

[@JustinColletti]

I have found the smother works surprisingly well for smaller people… IF they are small but stocky, and thick through the chest. As a 145 pound person with a reasonably muscular chest, all I can say that my least favorite thing about the smother tap is that I sometimes get it by accident! (…when all I’m trying to do is setup a head and arm choke.) Just this Tuesday, I accidentally smother tapped the same 230lb guy twice in the same roll when I was just trying to practice my kata gatame. (Good technique has you passing through the smother position to get there.) As long as you have a reasonably thick chest, I’m not sure if how much you weigh matters that much. Airways are airways. It doesn’t take a lot of weight to clog them. It just requires closure. That said, I agree that it’s more likely to work with a skill disparity between one person ability to hold a pin and the other persons ability to escape a pin. But I just don’t think weight and size is the deciding factor. If a 145 pound person is in a super high mount like a facehugger from Alien, then so amount of bridging from a larger bottom person is likely to change that. Also: back crucifix, top crucifix and body triangle should also get points, potentially on par with mount and back. Both strikes and smothers are available from these positions as well.

[@---tx9xx]

Good points

[@cagataycakmak2280]

A fat giant blue bellt mounted and smother tapped me last week, terrible feeling.

[@preston9135]

anytime u disrupt breathing or sight most ppl go to panicking

[@fteambjj]

One of my arsenal 😂

[@Thecelestial1]

Smothering is awesome. I love watching the fight leave their body with the last bit of air I’m crushing out of their body.

[@Justinicus24]

Sure buddy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PEislander27]

lol, this shit sounds crazy out of context. can only say this stuff on bjj content

[@MrCmon113]

@@PEislander27 He sounds like a terrible training partner either way.

[@PhilosophyofArtandScience]

love this move. it's humiliating.

[@MrCmon113]

If you love to humiliate others, you should be thrown out of the gym. Training partners are the only way of getting better.

[@josueoliveira86]

Poxa flo. Cadê as legendas em português🙆‍♂️

[@iamtheteapot7405]

It is Brazilian Jiu-jitsu after all

[@jarkinmalarkin]

It's sucks to conquer it is like a weird rabbit or side to side kipping. I remember ages ago it was called mother's milk it should be called waterboarding lol

[@---tx9xx]

That is the right name for it lol let’s spread that

[@jakeelsner2963]

I got submitted like that the other day. Shit sucked. My arm was also extended over my face so it was crushing my face as well as the dudes body weight. Couldn’t breathe for shit.

[@geneharrogate6911]

Got smother tapped by a thicc girl once. She didn't know a dam thing about Jiu Jitsu..

[@charliehollender7850]

Breathing is important Danaher might even go as far to say it's very important but not good enough to make the podium though

[@allroundlad]

I'd argue your heart pumping blood might take the cake, you can go without air till you pass out then so long as it's resupplied, you should be fine. Same can't be said about your heart stopping in your chest.

[@charliehollender7850]

@@allroundlad thanks for sound argument. I bet it's your dogged determination to keep things literal in the face of attempts for lighthearted humor that keeps you as everybody's first invite to the party. Cheers Drax 🍻

[@allroundlad]

@@charliehollender7850 Equally, I bet your exquisite delivery and hostile nature keep everyone laughing at the party.

[@charliehollender7850]

@@allroundlad 🤔 my limited knowledge of you leaves me perplexed as to whether that was a literal compliment or sarcasm... 😄

[@allroundlad]

@@charliehollender7850 it's sarcasm.

[@crisantogarcia6646]

I’m sub 130lb and tried to smother my training partners 150lb+ doesn’t work. Probably just feels like a plank of wood laying on your face.

[@sebastian_hornet]

Oss

[@BJJSurfParadiseHotel]

So how do you get out of mothers milk!!?

[@ilhamn3430]

Mother's milk 😂

[@johnguanciale258]

Frank Mir did that to me in practice many years ago. Embarrassing

[@jmoz]

Alright John I didn't ask for your life story

[@suplexed]

Sorry mate I got asthma. You interrupt my breathing and I won't even notice

[@rabbitsnrayguns]

Lol big guy move. Just say it

[@Malouco]

Isn’t “SMOTHER” what Jersey Shores uses to call sex? 🤔

[@PauloBerni699]

Smother tap and holding your hand over their nose and mouth=no difference

[@InVancouverBC66]

Love them both

[@MrCmon113]

@@InVancouverBC66 Looking at your ladt comments, I'd throw you out of the gym.

[@peterquinn3424]

I like my submissions smothered and covered, like Waffle House hash browns.

[@yousufleads]

Omg get to the point

[@gegaoli]

Smothering with the hand should only be used in self defense. It’s ridiculous in an any other context. Plus it can be unsanitary (higher risk) to subject you training partner unnecessarily to this.

[@BlackGold-fc7tu]

It's boring but legit

[@HenchPig]

It’s not boring at all. I think it’s cool af !

[@aidan5083]

first

[@BigLtheNewf]

Gay

[@aidan5083]

@@BigLtheNewf no u

[@aidan5083]

@@BigLtheNewf ur dad lesbian

[@aidan5083]

@@BigLtheNewf want to roll when I come out east?

[@BigLtheNewf]

@@aidan5083 I'm in Alberta

[@dubstepXpower]

It's not very effective (didn't even really work for Gordon Ryan sometimes) since people can hold their breath for minutes enough til they can bridge to get another breathe. whereas a blood choke will put you to sleep in 20 seconds. It's useful to move to a better position tho as people can panic.

[@Farriswheel23]

I don’t understand your comment. You started off saying it’s not very effective but ended it with what Danaher essentially said.

[@dansmithbyu1784]

Hold your breath after sprinting up a hill and lmk how long you last 😂

[@workhard3606]

Second

[@kerryburton2661]

Should join the b team

[@gb361TX]

Why does everyone act like John and new wave are doing something new or different 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ they do old school moves aka the basics‼️💯

[@thomasp.898]

Because his guys are hitting smother in competition against legit guys which is something that did not happen in a long time.

[@HenchPig]

John finds the best things and puts it into a system. He also has the best mind and teaching style I’ve ever seen. No one explains Jiujitsu better than this man.

[@gb361TX]

@@HenchPig i believe there are many professors that can explain jiujitsu as good as him or better

[@uncircumcisedcircus]

​@@HenchPigThe only guy I might compare to John is Ryan Hall.

[@HenchPig]

@@gb361TX Name one

[@mineshaftrisotto]

John thinks back mount attacks breathing more than Kesa-gatame? Lmao

[@greenwood-1426]

kesa gatame is body dependent

[@prrhyk]

is that controversial or am i missing the mark here?

[@anomanderrake440]

mr melon is just more knowledgeable than Danaher so

[@0b3ryn29]

Compression / camel crusher takes a lot of strength to pull off and its easier to off balance top player in no gi, while the smother tap only needs arm and head control and you block their airways. Plus, its a good setup for double underhooks or back takes.

[@alexkehoepwj]

You should teach John BJJ. He has a lot to learn from you

[@rjj54321]

its an impractical crap.

[@kristopherfernandez2449]

I saw this submission on Greek statue from 2000 years ago. Greco-Roman all the way

[@Justinicus24]

Super gay

[@muzzikman8799]

The GOAT MASTERMIND of killing someone in 5 seconds or less with bare hands💪🏼Shout Out JD