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[@yeehawjeehaw]

The dog training pyramid and the delivery of it is why I respect Joel so much. Honest, confident yet humble and giving people credit where its due.

[@KevinORourke25]

I trust the guy who trained big cats and stood on the nose of an Orca!!!

[@Dragonsfire1480]

Found your channel a week ago and love your methods. They removed me of the gentleman that trained my first two working dogs. I'm glad I met him all those years ago, because I'm not afraid to give a leash correction, and I didn't fall into the cute soft positive training methods most are preaching today. Dogs are animals with their own motivations and their own language. They're not meant to be cute. Nature is not cute.

[@yagovila7052]

I'd say that nature has those 2 faces, one sweet but another one that's really cruel, and that's precisely what many all positive and animal rights activists don't understand, they think everything in nature is beautiful and sweet, like in Disney movies where animals are friends. Pure anthropomorphism!

[@aprilparrish3830]

Joel, I just recently found your channel. After volunteering for our local animal shelter for close to a decade, I went into animal control for 5 long years. Around the same time we started a rescue. Because we see so many "2nd hand dogs" we are often tasked with "testing" dogs. Many potential adopters already have a dog so we actually use other dogs to "test". Of course we use muzzles, leashes and gauge the dogs slowly. I was very excited to see your method. Only other dogs can give accurate feed back on other dogs. We thought that was common knowledge. Some trainers that don't even attempt that is mind blowing. Thanks Joel and Prince.

[@grassfolk]

One thing I like about how you use Prince is to also read how he reacts to the other dog. So we can better understand what the dog is putting out there

[@BDTraining]

Good point

[@annalisacandaso-robertson9179]

Yeah, one of the reasons I love watching Prince interact w dogs and correct them, is it's almost like having a dog translator. Prince interacting w dogs and Joel pointing out what's happening between them helps us understand the dogs perspectives and how they are similar to and different from humans and what we think is going on in the dogs mind and body. I love how Joel will say something about a dog's behavior like "you don't get to come in to somebody else's home and rush a dog in its home" and then we see Prince communicate the same thing to a dog in dog language. The little communications between Prince and the dogs and the body language that people would usually miss, that Joel points out to us, and it actually makes sense, helps me so much to understand dogs and just how much they communicate through body language and just how much humans unintentionally miscommunicate with their dogs.

[@thecondor9720]

A Cane Corso owner here. A few years ago I actually had a positive only trainer/supposed behavior expert give me some academic references as an excuse for why my dog, at the time, was not able to work around other dogs and may in fact never be able to. I was also told it was all mostly based upon fear and lack of positive experience. I always knew this was most likely NOT the case based upon behavior I had witnessed and just having a sense after owning many large dogs for multiple decades. I had rescued her after she was 1 year old so her puppy stage was unknown but I knew she needed more time and experience with strong leadership not desensitizing using treats and praise. She's a big strong 125lb girl who knows she can get away with behaviors and muscle you if you do not maintain leadership at all times. What I was instructed to believe was fear, I believe was her being a mastiff. She will spit a treat or ignore a positive praise to get what she wants unless you are clearly in charge. She is extremely protective and defensive of her domain and takes her time to warm up to strangers but that is ok. Today she's a happy loving respecting big sister. As large dog owners we already know we can get away with maybe 1/10 of the annoying or unacceptable behaviors that small dogs get away with and so channels and resources like yours are an absolute necessity to staying sharp on the skills required. Thank you.

[@peterwreford1520]

I agree with everything you said about big dogs and leadership as well as not being given the leeway small dogs are.

[@nattysmackdown1339]

Thanks for your post. I have a Karakachan/Akbash mix who is very similar in personality as yours. I wondered if what I was witnessing w/my dog was normal for his breed or if he has behavior issues. After a little research about my dog's breed, I learned his behavior is cemented deep in the nucleus of his cells! Knowing his breed has been around since Christ walked among us, they were bred to fight wolves & bear, his dominant/extremely alpha behavior was necessary in fighting off huge predators and they'll fight these predators to the death. I should have known when at only 2 months old he barked back a full grown mastiff.

[@garygtmm]

There’s a slice on the very bottom of the animal trainer pyramid: Online scolds.

[@juliesullivan9473]

Beckman!!! You inspired and helped me to upgrade my business I turned my reactive Cane Corso into Prince and now we help pups on the East Coast get over themselves! ❤ it’s magic. So much love for what you do and inspire the rest of us to do.

[@BDTraining]

That’s awesome!

[@landwight]

It's not a pyramid, it's a Christmas tree! Which means: 1) cats get to swat at the people on the lowest branches of the tree, and 2) you need to put a star on the top with a picture of Prince in it.

[@dogsfromthecity]

Gotta say, you inspired me to trust my dogs judgement on other dogs body language and opened up a whole new level of understanding on my relationship with my dogs. :) They help me a lot at my dog school and are the model canine citizens of my area.

[@MrsVGrace]

Will always be part of the pod. Definitely will be here at podcast 100. Top 2 on the pyramid are the only real trainers as far as I am concerned. I have a 10 breed rescue that has reactivity, prey drive and certain breed type issues. Thank God for Joel and his videos. It has helped me greatly tamp down these issues.

[@cybilsnarf]

I believe there are different types of trainers. Some that teach lessons for dogs to learn and grow up the correct way, understanding and learning commands and what is expected from them. Others like yourself are there to fix more extreme issues, whether lack or training, irresponsible training, social issues, or psychologically damaged dogs. You do an excellent job helping those dogs. Kudos to you!!

[@cybilsnarf]

I forgot to mention your side kick Prince!!! He is wonderful, love that dog!!

[@blueflare3848]

I agree. I think different trainers cover different niches. Some only teach dogs basic commands, while trainers like Joel deal with dogs that have severe behavioral problems.

[@vikingdogmanship]

​@@blueflare3848Or like Stonnie Dennis that teach dogs important life skills and not stupid tricks:)

[@weedhigh2564]

you were my inspiration to use my dogs in a mentor way, first it was when i got the second dog i tried it on her and worked wonders. Especially when she was still there around 2-6 months, it was super easy teaching her the basics of obedience and how to behave in general, she was copying the older one in everything and added a few quirks of her own. Then i tried using the older with a few clients dogs, and worked wonders, i will not forget i had a really shut down dog, and i mean, extremely shut down, if you approached him while he was on the leash with the owner and he didnt meet you ever before he would hide behind the owner and shake, especially with guys like me, big and burly, that behavior came out even more. I tried everything i had with this dog, btw it was a cross between a pittie and i believe an istrian hound, beautiful dog, but really skittish, really scared, i was without any ideas, i tried patience, luring him with food, toys, nothing worked. As soon as he saw my older dog approach me and give me kisses he first came out of hiding and then after i played with my dog a bit he wanted to join in. That dog is still one of the biggest successes in my short carreer so far and he is doing so well, i check up on him 1x month and he is great now, super outgoing, confident and enjoying his life to the max. Props to his owner as well, that girl really puts in the work and does everything she can for that dog, they both came such a long way

[@lisaleondires9576]

I’ve watched this channel since your kids where younger & you did “lives”. ❤😊. Now I watch all your podcasts, reels, shorts and Channel. I recently broke my foot 🦶(no dogs were involved) so now it’s MANDATORY for my husband to watch your Channel !😅😅. We have 2 Shepards. Thank you for the content, Love from up here in Boston 😍

[@smrod1224]

I’d be interested to see more about small dogs with problem behaviors. In my limited experience smaller dogs are more difficult to correct than large dogs. Obviously untrained large dogs are more dangerous, but small dogs with bad behavior still have a huge impact on an owner’s quality of life. Love your stuff. But I haven’t seen much about small dogs.

[@juulz9712]

About the trainers that don't want to work with aggressive or extreme dogs: I think it is fear and a lack of trust in their own abilities. I have noticed a pattern in good dog trainers. They are all very dominant, self secure and rational people. Not only with dogs, with people too. It takes gutts, intelligence, feeling for animal behavior and a rational mind to take on the 'bad guys' and get them balanced. Starting out, it is scary though sometimes... As for training your own dog: kind of a difference if that dog was an aggressive pit bull turned right or a yellow lab you owned since 8 weeks old. Around here the trainers al have problem dogs, that to me is a HUGE red flag.

[@myheartisglad]

❤ Addicted to the podcast lol❤ PLEASE PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE consider doing an in-depth discussion on Irish Wolfhounds.

[@GreatWhiteNorth47]

AHHH finally get it!!! I''ve got the recall/go get in our back yard 100%. she knows I'm coming and theres no where to go. In the field, I'm toast. Just walk, calm and chill and GO GET! That was my mistake thanks JOEL!!! Another problem solved!!! Cheers to the POD too!!

[@Paul-ok6sn]

We have an ex street dog. She is called "the mediator" in our local park because she seems to intervene when a fight threatens and stops the aggressors in their tracks, often with a single bark She is also very good with over boisterous puppies. (when we got her she had obviously just had pups) I have never, in 40 years of owning dogs had one like her. She is very gentle with people and kids. I take no credit for the way she behaves and indeed she is sometimes stubborn when I call her to go home Our newer street dog "tried it on" attempting to dominate her and push her away from us. She soon put him straight. She has never touched another dog aggressively and I really don't know what it is about her that makes them toe the line. I found your channel and think you are the bees knees! (as we say in UK)

[@OffGridDogs]

It’s her energy

[@jennietalbot4329]

I live in Costa Rica and also took in a street dog he was the best mediator ever, always there to calm any situation down helped me so much with my American pit bull terrier she is really perfect dog now and I am sure she was trained by Billy the street dog with a little help from yours truly. Sadly Billy died last week from cancer we miss him so much he was a great dog ❤ ❤❤❤

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Adopted an 8+ yr old Boxer from the local animal shelter. Best dog! Loved by people and dogs - whomever she met. She would casually walk by this one Springer that had rage syndrome at a party I was attending. She watched the dog go after a few dogs that ventured to close to her tie out. Paisley walked by, close enough, acted like she wasn't paying attention, as soon as the springer charged, Paisley just grabbed on to him and put him on the ground as if to say, knock it off, we don't act like that. Dog was fine the rest of the day. Almost like he woke up. Oh wow, alrighty then. Just the right amount of force without any repercussions - just telling you the way it is, dude. Miss her so much. Lived in Grenada for a year, but most of the loose dogs shy away from people and other dogs. Miss Grenada too - 80 degrees year round.

[@Jgjules]

I think a more clear title would be “How to discriminate dog trainers on social media”. I thought you were going to suggest actual trainers 🙃 Nevertheless, I’m loving your content and like your direct, no nonsense approach. It’s refreshing because it’s REAL!

[@rptrick79]

Just here for the comments I have a feeling these should be good! I was waiting for you to respond to some reviews and people that use others videos but never show their dogs.

[@kerrywills8715]

I love you guys. I’ve got 7 rescues 1 English staffie 15 yr old from a puppy plus latest English bull terrier 6 months old. My amazing oldies have corrected puppy and taken in turn to play with her. Dogs are amazing. I love Joel’s advise and cesar too watched for years. You both are amazing. Our household is fairly calm. Thank you so much for your videos and advice ❤️

[@alexisballard1459]

The pyramid is such a creative way to tell the Pod who they can trust without personally attacking anyone - i love this.

[@dottiscamprunamuck2830]

I went way back in your vidoes to find Bosco. He seemed like the perfect banance of dominant, highly confident & great attitude.

[@andyschmidt7809]

Wildlife Biologist here, and I've always thought that the long canine teeth of the Smilodon Cats were indicative of them feeding on huge animals, probably scavenging carcasses, and those long canines were used by the cat plunging them into the belly of, say, a mammoth, and using powerful neck and shoulder muscles to pull the teeth and cut open the body cavity to get at the internal organs. The Smilodon canines I've seen have sharp, sometimes slightly serated edges that would help with that. But those same teeth would have made it almost impossible for a Smilodon to pursue prey and kill it like all modern cats do. They would basically keep the Smilodon from being able to bite smaller prey as modern cats do. That would explain them going extinct with the huge North American megafauna, if they were unable to prey on smaller, faster prey.

[@peterwreford1520]

Hey Joel, great chat as usual! Shout out to Eric too, I've noticed he's been attracting some negitive comments of late, and I think they are unfair. Eric does a great job of asking you serious, difficult, awkward and / or humourous on and off topic questions whilst disarming you enough to keep it all open and interesting to listeners of varying dog knowledge levels. He's good at taking you up to the line in discussions without crossing it. In short he does a great job.

[@TheWackler]

Totally people just go after whoever Eric's equally as good as Joel in the podcast cause he can contrast different ways of thinking, and he calls him right out lol it always makes me laugh when he makes the dry little comments like suggesting visceral reaction every so often haha

[@JimiandSamantha]

I used to train dogs as a teenager. I worked for a brilliant balanced trainer and ran her operation for a few years before she officially retired. At one point, one of the "Force Free" certification groups reached out and asked us to certify people. We said yes mostly out of curiosity. The criteria for us to pass them was super simple - they had to bring their own dog to a puppy class. It was my first experience with a truly aggressive Golden Retriever and reinforced how much damage all positive training can do. This was 20 years ago.

[@DaniloVojvodic]

Gary Wilkes

[@yelloworchid1840]

Our dog's sibling is at the top, his owner is not a trainer, hIs brother knows how to get our dog to behave! 😅 He is the Top Dog 👍

[@MangoDobie0823]

So much to learn from and enjoy in this video. Your hierarchy is spot on! Absolutely yes to the break down video idea too! I learn so much about your training methodology and dog behavior from your session voiceovers. Please share more of your knowledge with us. Also, Dave Chappell rocks! 😂Thanks again to both of you! 😊

[@dazdncnfusd6447]

At 17:45, you reminded me of a quote I use often. In the movie "Leap of Faith", Steve Martin plays a shyster revival preacher. He does laying on of hands healing. It's OBVIOUSLY a con. But, a kid actually heals. The climactic scene of the movie is the kid catching up to him. Steve is sitting across from the kid and tells the kid that he's a fraud. During the interaction, he asks the kid, "Do you know the greatest fear of any con man?" and he continues, "The genuine article. The genuine article will see through the con every single time." Trainers like yourself, Ceasar Milan and not many others are the genuine article.

[@gixxnrocket]

Another fantastic Pod! I get your pyramid I would augment the hierarchy as increasing authority and skill. Anyone can google a subject and then talk about it or opine on the topic. Behaviorally, they are self rewarding by bashing others without any skin in the game. It's mental masturbation, best not to support their videos. You're just rewarding their psychosis. Same with showing their own dog. I've seen several youtubers that show off obedience (in several cuts) and show it off within a safe sterile environment like it is a trick with perfect precision. The third rung is probably where anyone actually has some relevance. I applaud your skill at training a helper dog. If you can be objective enough to train a working dog that trains other dogs is a force multiplier. Special forces stuff. My only gripe is that the helper dog is a only a tool. It's right up there with the inventor of the gentle leader. At the end of the day it's all about the trainer and daily study of behavior modification. I hope your pod opens up and effects a larger audience. I believe wealth in any capacity is caused by an individual's ability to successfully help/satisfy the greatest amount of people. Obviously in dollars, Bill Gates is an excellent example. love it or hate it, windows is used by the vast majority of people around the world and the man is financially wealthy. Mother Theresa in the same way was wealthy in grace by inspiring individuals, communities, cultures, and countries to be empathetic towards the poor and neglected. I think your cause is solid and I wish great wealth for you in your particular facet and hope that you are able to effect exponentially more people and animals. You'll figure out how.

[@akodo1]

Have you seen Stonie Dennis on KZbin? He is a board and train, had a helper dog "no name", (but also the pack) to train

[@Veredzil]

I think there are some excellent dog trainers with social media presence who stay in the 3rd rung not because of lack of ability but rather their lane is more focused on performance / dog sports. They may help their paying members with dog aggression individually, offline, with more of a dog sports approach… but it’s not their main business.

[@fallbrkgrl]

It feels like you are describing a trainer that I follow, Robert Cabral. One thing I have to give him props for is how patient he is with owners that aren't really great at taking instructions. He has a background in martial arts, which probably helps him maintain his composure when dealing with all different types of people.

[@Veredzil]

@@fallbrkgrlI definitely wasn’t referring to Robert Cabral, he’s a top tier dog trainer who has lots of videos training other people’s aggressive dogs. I was talking about dog trainers with mainly performance / dog sports videos.

[@fallbrkgrl]

@@Veredzil gotcha 😏

[@lklencho]

Nice breakdown. Pretty accurate

[@BDTraining]

Thanks Larry!

[@dudevicious]

Quoting Napoleon Dynamite! LOL!!!

[@vermis8344]

I honestly thought the liger bit was going to be the Napoleon Dynamite reference. 😆

[@osathegermanshepherd]

Hello, coming from a 7+ years dog daycare/boarding background. Prince is not that unique. Many employee dogs (not all but several) have dogs with similarities to Prince because of the sheer exposure to other dogs. My husky/border collie mix at the time helped me with both aggressive and skittish dogs. Aggressive dogs seemed to respect his calm but assertive demeanor. And terrified dogs seemed to find comfort in him because he knew to give them a little space in their terrified state and would wait for those dogs to come to him when they were ready (which is where I feel Prince is a bit too intense at times). He helped dogs that could not be around any other dogs be able to integrate and take part in daycare and socializing. And when working in a room with 100+ dogs at the same time, my dog assisted me with getting a hold of naughty dogs by knocking them off balance until I could get to them (something he picked up on his own). I managed dogs similarly to what you do (and before having a kid ha ha). Just never quite got into dog training as it didn't quite interest me. The responsibility of being expected to transform someone else's dog was more than I wanted because I know it comes down to the owner ultimately managing their own dog for long term success. I'm now a homesteader with farm critters but eventually want to create my own small (3-5 dog) boarding facility. What you do with Prince is unique as a dog trainer (other than Cesar's been doing it for years). But in the dog daycare world this concept is not new for integrating and managing dogs with employee dogs (similar to Prince). Love the pod cast. A lot of great info. Keep it up!

[@thedoggieinnlisaannestella3478]

Hi Joel, I am in Ohio and follow you. I have a faciilty for boarding & training. I would like to see if you can do a podcast on how crazy it seems that many of our client dogs come in on MEDS! Setraline, Prozak Trazodone, a myriad of psychotic drugs. Young dogs that vets are prescribing for thinks like barking , jumping , anxiousness etc. Of course when the dogs are here they are worked daily and they are in social playgroups . The dogs have no issues when they are worked and tired. The minute they go home, different dogs , back to the issues.. So the parents put them on meds to keep them like zombies.. I speak and educate my clients on exercise and also simple training walks that you show and we also do them here. I think it would be a great idea for a podcast. Thank you for all you do! Lisa Anne Stella

[@cherylmillard2067]

I was put on Trazadone for nerve pain over 20 years ago, it turned me into a zombie and made me gain weight despite being an active person when managing to stay awake, I can only imagine what it does to dogs. I became very depressed on it. Damn. Ivan Balabanov dose not agree with placing dogs on psychotropic meds as a way to manage behavioral issues, see what he did for Tina an OCD Malinois.

[@Cvinkavich1]

The rescue I got my dog from made me sign a guarantee that I would never use anything other than force free training on my dog (he’s a heeler) but they prescribe meds to ALL of their ‘difficult’ dogs. It’s not right!

[@cherylmillard2067]

To hell with their "guarantee" it's your dog and you need to act in YOUR dog's best interest. I have also signed those "guarantees". To adopt the dog I wanted I listened intently, smiled enthusiastically, signed on the dotted line and went home, let the dog decompress for a few days and started in on training. ​@@Cvinkavich1 Add Miracle K9, Solid K9 training, Micheal Ellis, Ivan Balabanov and Andy Krueger to your list of trainers, are all top tier, now start over from scratch. The force free crowd have ruined thousands of not only dog's lives but also their human owners. The first two have tons of free help on YT and they are super people. David from Miracle K9 (Ohio) was featured on the Forbes 30 under 30 list and Jeff from Solid K9 (Florida) has trained thousands of dogs in his 20 plus years training dogs. The last two trainers I've mentioned they have your best interest at heart. 🤩

[@OffGridDogs]

@@Cvinkavich1these people should not be anywhere near dogs

[@cherylmillard2067]

Have you even watched his content? Probably not and no, he's not "nothing but a talker" as you so naïvely put it. I suggest you pull that stick out of your arse and sit down long enough to watch MiracleK9's content and start learning a thing or two about dog training, instead of being such a puerile individual. @@User7688.--_

[@coreyk4580]

I have a childhood friend that described our friendship as “peppe la pew and the cat” (myself being the cat.) still friends, but always a weird friendship.

[@PawtentialAdventure]

Your hierarchy is brilliant, wish I saw it before because it explains so much. May I suggest another possible stage to your hierarchy? What about those who have physically saved a dogs life through first aid, accidental fights, CPR? I suggest this to go after aggressive dog stage - below the dog teaching another dog. The only reason why I have suggested this, is because applying first aid, CPR or physically break up fights, this takes a certain kinda of Trainer to be able to deal with the adrenaline of the moment. You have to be a certain type of pack Leader to be able to save someone else’s dog, not just my own. Lastly… I think you could also add a level for “dog walkers.” So many people think dog walkers can solve unstable behaviour and it’s simply not true. I believe it’s an evolution from bottom to up and I would put a Dog Walkers level just above the “Talkers.” These are just suggestions, and from my working dog perspective. I love your channel, it’s a source of clarity, truth and expectations. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it’s so valuable. Cheers from Canada. 😊

[@peterwreford1520]

I don't recall you asking for guest ideas, but....... I think it'd be awesome if you had Kevin Richardson (The lion whisperer) on. Not sure he'd leave South Africa just for a chat, but well the idea just struck me. He's got a dog, and obviously works with lions, so it seems to me you've got enough in common and enough difference (as he probably leans toward the animal rights activist side) to make it a very interesting conversation. Just my two pence worth.

[@jdo2574]

So where on the pyramid ia a guy that just writes articles ? The unnamed guy Joel wont tell us about. . . . . ?

[@ChildofGod474]

If you ever get a bird, and have room, get turkeys. They are NOT stupid like people say. I've raised birds for years, and they by far are my favorites. They're funny, they will follow you around like dogs and come when you call their name. AND they're extremely loyal. My male turkeys would protect me against the broody geese. If they thought I was being threatened, they would attack with extreme prejudice. And they have that gobbling thing going for them- the males. lol Having said that, I would suggest females to start with. They're sweet and goofy.

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

Nope

[@ChildofGod474]

@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN hahaha

[@Dabrownman1812]

Birbs!

[@slate2720]

I know it's not the structured way to do it , but I take my new puppies to friend and families dogs and then to a dog park to learn lessons I can't afford to pay for at a real socializer trainer.

[@marydewar5675]

Victoria Sitwell is a trainer who deals with aggressive dogs.

[@whiskybrush3219]

Not really. Most of her cases are certainly problem behaviours on a course towards aggression, but generally speakingh what she deals with are basic lack of boundaries and focus. The odd cases I have seen her that were aggression based, did not really get to the root of the problem either and i definitely would not call them successful interventions. One ended in nearly full time muzzle wearing for safety's sake, and the other (leash choking morbidly obese shih tzu) was still sitting 40 feet away from any passing, dog getting 5 treats per minute, 6 months after the owner were taught that "desensitizing" technique and never progressed beyond that. I'll agree her methods are fine for shaping a young dog or calming dog a spaz that has never been subjected to boundaries but she is of the school that would rather destroy a dog gone too far rather than utilize methods she disagrees with to reel them in.

[@daniellependock2554]

Hey Joel and Eric. I have a driving game I used to play with my family on road trips when I was a child. The person starting the game says the name of an animal that starts with the letter 'A'. The next person has to say the name of another animal that starts with the last letter of the previous animal that was said. If you can't think of one then you are out. If you accidentally say an animal that was already said then you are out and the next person keeps going. You play until you have one person left. I didn't just have to remember animals, but how to spell their names too. I also had to have a way to prove later that an animal exists if no one else had heard of it.

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Or the remember option where you have to repeat in order all the previous ones plus add yours to the list when it's your turn - like in my grandmother's trunk I found....

[@daniellependock2554]

@robinrutherfordcost4748 oh! Yes. My school teachers got us to play that. Usually it was "on my shopping list I have..." or "I brought to the picnic..." I always lost that game or I remembered everything in the wrong order which got me out of the game right at the start. 😅

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

@@daniellependock2554 we did it by the alphabet to help jog the memory. Sometimes it helps, sometimes you just draw a blank.

[@1212LeoSnake]

EMPATHY! GENUINE, ORGANIC EMPATHY! THIS is the reason why I call Joel the Real Deal. The proof's in the pudding. This man and his 4 legged sidekick has changed thousands of lives, and I'm one of them. Never grew up around dogs, didn't care too much about em regardless of what breed or size. Decades later I'm blessed with one, ran up on Beckman's vids and I can't even describe the love I have for my 4 legged bro. Joel is the main reason me and my dog have such a bond; then there was American Standard. Joel, thank you and may your family prosper.

[@BDTraining]

So nice. Thanks

[@alisha_madariaga]

"They can't see you"...... "that's ok" 😂😂 Sidebar: I believe it was I who predicted you'd reach 500,000 subs in a year's time.. which I posted... yep... almost 1 year ago:). Too bad the next creator award doesn't come until 1 mil! but you'll get there in no time!

[@LAWise520]

Another great, but sadly too short podcast! I'm fairly certain I've laughed at least once during every podcast, but this one may have made me crack up the most.

[@akodo1]

Liger: male lion has a gene for being huge on the Y, X has a size limiter. So male lions end up with 1 of each and are big, female is medium. tiger female X has no size limit gene so the Y from lion results in huge liger.

[@BDTraining]

Great point. Never thought of it that way

[@ChildofGod474]

Okay, as far as fantasy animal picks. I'm a former Dungeon Master, so I'm thinking you have to do this orderly. In the campaign, my players would sometimes encounter wolves and other wildlife. Say with a bobcat or something the attack would go something like sword vs. claw, claw, bite. There would be 3 possible attacks to the one attack by the sword. Each claw and bite would have a numerical amount. Something like 4/4/8. And you would roll for initiative, and then to see if each attack would hit, and then roll for damage. (1d4/1d4/1d8). So, if you do that with a rhino, they would have 2 attacks- charge and impale. Say 10/8 and so forth. Get some DM dice and have at it.

[@ChildofGod474]

BTW...there would be agility type bonuses for cats etc. You basically add some points to their "to hit" score. I would totally go with a Kodiak Bear or Grizzly.

[@TheWackler]

I do think there's an in between portion where they are showing their own dog to "clients" even when you are fixing your dogs fault s/ you lack of training and able to correct yours. Like I have a great dog but due to medical issues I often need to retrain mine and use him on some things to show exactly how you need be and show the discipline with your own.

[@thekeikoprojectdocumentary]

Hey Joel, great podcast. Can you do a podcast about your experience being a killer whale trainer?

[@johncspine2787]

New dog owners are really both spoiled by the great information out there, but also thrown into the deep end of badness. I enrolled in a local place well recommended, and had a weird experience with a very young trainer. I love you guys, Robert Cabral, Tom Davis, Haz Othman, the actual “balanced” trainers out there. Out of curiosity I enrolled in a couple Susan Garrett courses, and there’s a lot of good learning to be had, but, the semantics are carefully chosen as well as the dogs used in examples. Her techniques work great with the Cockagoldendoodledoos but fall short on headstrong, high drive dogs. Or rather the techniques work especially well on brand new, “not screwed up or mentally sound” puppies. At one point she says “your dog might show some signs of frustration but (after working through) will learn to make better choices.” Which can be applied to methods that are more balanced. If “no force” was truly being used, why have a collar and a leash? Does a mother dog use cookies to get the puppies to stop suckling, or to discipline them? She says “Aaah-Aaah!”..and “Leave it!” shouldn’t be used as instead the dog should be so well trained that they ignore whatever and make “better choices.”. Well..sounds good in theory, but, my 18 wk GS ain’t there yet, somehow, I think I’m getting ready to have to move to a prong collar because he’s injuring his throat pulling so hard.

[@CentralasianshepherdAlabaiUSA]

Breed of week. Central Asian shepherd. I'm a breeder;)

[@fallbrkgrl]

Just started following you, and appreciate your knowledge, and experience. You and Robert Cabral are the only trainers that i can take seriously, and have mad respect for. I got caught up in the "positive only training" topic because of what's going on with two trainers right now. It actually had me rethinking what I learned about how dogs work (mostly from Cesar Milan), and perhaps I needed to look into the research that the positive only trainer was providing to back up his argument. Fortunately, I have not fallen for this positive only position. It just doesn't jive with how dogs are wired. There has to be clear leadership, as the majority of dogs are not born to take the leadership role. I've only had two dogs in my 61 years. My first i got at 3 months old (terrier mix). And the second one i just adopted a couple of weeks ago. She's an older (5-7 years old) GDS who was so fearful fearful, and sensitive when she got to the shelter that they didn't put her in a kennel (had her in staff offices). After two months of being there, she made some progress, but very little, as she's still very fearful and jumpy. I believe it's going to take quite a while for her to get better. She's pretty much glued to me, and gets anxious when she doesn't know where i am. At the same time, still doesn't really engage with me. Occasionally, I can get a little bit of play behavior, but its only for a few seconds. I'm so hoping that i can help her turn into a happy dog. She appears to have a great temperament, and is not really active. I'm finding it hard to know if I'm moving to fast with her. I only take her on short walks, as she just can't seem to relax, but at the same time, need to find a way to keep her moving for the sake of her physical health. Sorry... such a long comment. But I've found that puting our story out there has been helpful (getting different suggestions from folks) since i have no experience with a shelter dog like her. Thank you!

[@HartKate]

Please pick a Xoloitzcuintli as breed of the week. I have an 8 month old pup atm and it's been an experiance going from owning Staffordshire bull terriers to a xolo 😅

[@1981namo]

The talkers are also the people in your life with no dog telling you how you should treat yours 😏

[@r.durante528]

I really appreciate your advice. I now recognize the difference between play position and aggressive in dogs as I walk my five-month-old puppy around the neighborhood and she encounters new dogs. She has made new friends each week and stays away from the ones who are too aggressive. I also listened to your advice about the puppies from PA and OH and instead went with a great breeder near me. It was worth every penny for sure. Could you talk about the Volhard puppy temperament test on one of your podcasts as a means for picking the right dog for your family.? I am curious what your thoughts are on it. This is how I picked my puppy and she is the perfect dog for me and my household. I would also be interested in learning about the best dogs for service for children with autism.

[@captainzork6109]

One other subgroup of talkers may also be academics?

[@PeteJustPete]

I normally listen to the pod on Spotify during my commute. Luckily, I just happened to be teleworking today and able to watch this ep. on TV to be able to see the diagram and video clips…Hopefully any video reaction episodes can be a separate format from the pod. Although some dog fights are hard to watch, i.e. Robert Cabral broke one down where a poor Golden Retriever was not fighting back and just crying for help.

[@MrDynamart]

As far as KZbin goes I guess I'm on level 2 of your pyramid 😊😂😂 I have videos of my own dog, the only reason I'm not higher up is totally not because of fear, I just haven't got there yet, I am just waiting for the chance, I feel it's coming soon 👍🐶♥️

[@itzarelmartinez3472]

I'd say there's not a big difference between 4 and 5. I think that's more about getting lucky with the behaviors your dog does naturally.

[@angelahaines5065]

The only dog trainer that helps other people and their aggressive dogs is the Dog Daddy !!

[@underduress5761]

Crocs and gators are similar but they're not the same

[@blueflare3848]

The main dog trainers I actively watch on KZbin are you, American Standard Dog Training, and Southend Dog Training.

[@LimitlessJayson]

i can say the same! Beckman is nice cause he showcases balance while relying on body language, ASK9 because they show obedience X100 & I've just been seeing a TON of Southend on facebook lately LOL

[@Myndi78]

My neighbour has a very unruly golden retriever, and I showed him the trick of standing on the leash to avoid jumping. I think that pretty much puts me on top of that pyramid 🤔😐

[@vikingdogmanship]

❤

[@OffGridDogs]

Congrats on chihuahua “breed of the week” that was the worst so far lol

[@neebeeshaabookwayg6027]

I made it, but----late...😢 ... watching, now, though ❤

[@darlenereisterer5653]

Love you Joel ❤ your training methods have helped me Immensely. I'm having some difficulty with my tiny dogs.. a Shih Tzu, Morkie and Multipoo with loose leash walking they keep walking ahead pulling on the leash. They could do circles allll day in trying to get them to connect that the direction is changed as soon as they begin to pull. I'm at the point of being frustrated. I take a deep breath and I clear my thoughts of being frustrated, I look ahead and begin again! I've got to be faster on my leash snap and of coarse much lighter with that then with my Labradoodles and Great Dane. I'm gonna say that bigger dogs are easier to train than the tiny ones at least for me.

[@garygtmm]

Clickers? I don't get it. Why not just use your body language and words?

[@grassfolk]

There’s a place and dog for every method Not every method is suitable for every situation

[@gerdberg4188]

Dogs usually respond really well to clickers , it is a very clear and consistent marker , helps with timing I think , but I don’t use them

[@gerdberg4188]

Dave Chappell is great , he is top notch ! You have to see it , that's right !

[@gerdberg4188]

Chappell is the best since Robin Williams

[@gerdberg4188]

In a joke off Chappell would win

[@cherylmillard2067]

6:38 People who are making valid critiques of your training are not automatically "unemployed or bankers, not a dog trainer, etc., in your humble opinion," that's a fallacy in logic, you have no idea what the person's skillset is behind that comment. A person doesn't have to be a so-called professional dog trainer to make a valid point. Are you really at that point in your life where you know everything and there's absolutely nothing else you can learn from others? I like Eric, he likes to stir up shit. 😂🤣😂Karen Pryor 😂🙄😬wolverine and dogs ae both in the class Mammalia, the wolverine in in the family Mustelidae.

[@RU3YJB]

This is funny but I think I got the gist of it by 25 minutes 🤣 or earlier. 😆

[@squoctopus]

Now every time I go up to get my dog I'll head "doink doink doink" in my head 🤣

[@User7688.--_]

I'm not sure what you mean? Maybe a typo?

[@rev9fan1]

When you ask to show their proof, they also say dumb things like "well I don't have to prove anything to people online", I always say ok well then don't talk about it to anybody online then...lol pretty simple.

[@OffGridDogs]

Put Sam Kinison on that Mount Rushmore

[@user-mt4zr5kp7h]

I trust Caesar Milan, and I trust you. That's about it.

[@vikingdogmanship]

Stonnie Dennis is pretty god damn great too

[@cherylmillard2067]

Add Miracle K9, Solid K9 training, Micheal Ellis and Andy Krueger to your list.

[@User7688.--_]

MiracleK9? …sorry, but 🤣😂🙄😂🤣😆🤓😂🤣😵‍💫

[@unsaltedskies]

Tom Davis is another I'd recommend.

[@OffGridDogs]

Miracle not too good overuse the ecollar incorrectly dogs look suppressed

[@alliboogaloo]

Where do the specialized skills trainers fall in there? The seeing eye dogs, hunting dogs, herding dogs, rescue dogs. These are more than basic obedience but not necessarily aggressive. Is this a new 4th rung?

[@vermis8344]

I'm baffled by people who make reaction videos as their youtube bread and butter, whether dog training or any other subject. It's just some jerk going 'aw man!' at someone else's hard work.

[@User7688.--_]

So true!!

[@LeneyDesign]

Not me here holding my Shih Tsu getting my hopes up for breed of the week 😅so close

[@OffGridDogs]

Careful what you wish for lol that chihuahua BOTW was epic

[@GreatWhiteNorth47]

yes video breakdowns wild and dogs!!

[@toad700000]

You and Micheal Ellis are top two for me.

[@uncle_creepy2743]

what about ppl that train service dogs? they have to be high up oon that list...

[@LimitlessJayson]

people that train service dogs have quite a few differences from those that train pet dogs

[@whiskybrush3219]

There is also a very long list of those people. From the first volunteer fosters that do all the ground work of socializing, desensitizing, basic obedience, putting the dog on a strict bathroom schedule, then up to the next tier that do real world skills... 10 000 hours of training and shaping and narrowing down the pool of viable candidates for service. It's an entirely different animal.

[@maia2387]

I'd love to hear what were the biggest mistakes tha Joel made (and how/why he made them) training animals that were also the most valuable lessons for him to become who he is today Example: my biggest mistake was correcting my puppy too soon too intensely, that made her insecure and it was really hard to see that behavior in her later as an adult, it improved but never really went away

[@Prodigalzson]

So ...Joel, you just said the next level of training that you need to develop. Make a channel where you train existing dog trainers, where you walk through the process of selecting, training and *testing? a dog to be able to "assist" in the training. When and how to introduce the dogs. What you expect to happen and how to get there. You kinda have to do this... because if you don't that means that you CAN'T. So develop the process and start your train the trainer program. Imagine how much good you could do for society if you could make it even a little bit repeatable.(stages maybe) *lawsuits can be avoided with waivers. (oh, and check out Canis Panther for a hybrid)

[@yelloworchid1840]

Can identify who are all talk and being judgemental on those trainers at the higher levels 🤫

[@JCH2768]

This was a cool one. How about a podcast devoted to Joel's favorite (KZbin) sessions? The ones that he looks back on the most, or have taught him the most. Maybe a top 5 or top 10 list.

[@watchmoivies123]

So let me ask you a question if you got a new puppy and you brought him up the way that you feel is those the correct way to bring up a dog and by year and a half he had some issues and it was maybe genetic and you didn’t see it until it became full-fledged And you tried very hard to make this dog, another prince, but no matter how much training he just wasn’t genetically able Do you think you would rehome him and get another dog or tell people the story of this dog and say you’re still trying to work with him and do your best

[@MrBohning]

I love Beckman and I’ve learned a lot…but for the love of god if you put up a graphic could you at least type it up or at the very least write legibly?

[@krysbelasco]

Hey Joel would a Silverback be on your animal draft?

[@kristenburkett4274]

45:00 When some species cross breed they will sometimes have something happen called "hybrid vigor" basically they become giants and are usually sterile. Sort of like how most calico cats are always females and the rare male ones are "As far as i've ever known" always sterile.

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

And most all orange cats are males

[@rev9fan1]

I know its not a dog, but you say you love wild cats, whats your opinion on that caracal puma (Floppa) circulating facebook all the time? Everyone says the hissing and growling is normal communication for them, i disagree, if the cat JUST hissed and growled, then maybe. But this cat always has its ears back, and even does this like jumping with its front paws like its warning its going to attack. To me that seems to be communicating to stay away!

[@SilentBloedius]

The bracket with the magic arrow is a bit mysterious. Does it mean that if you combine the bottom 3 categories and apply magic you can teleport to the top?

[@DENVEROUTDOORMAN]

No it means you never get there

[@defendingthestrawman7103]

This d### measuring contest of yours is really dangerous. Good thing I don't have one, I guess... 🤷‍♀️ Went to the shelter today to volunteer again. Personally only really interested in enrichment through play for the working breed dogs. I like them. And I hate knowing they are couped up without an outlet. Family members will go to stroke the lapdogs (in case it is not obvious, I am not a fan of lapdogs). Saw this giant probable mastiff x. Although corsos are a comparatively rare sight here, I think he might have corso blood, because he is a beast. He was growling and barking, but when I refused to back away, he took cookies (dog biscuits) from my hand very gently through the wire mesh of the kennel. Going back to play with the working dog breeds and going through a very hard decision whether or not to take this dog out into the yard for exercise. If I was going to listen to you, I would film all of this and post it for clicks. Do you even care that your "dare" might get people hurt, or dogs put down? I am not going to film it for the internet, because, if I do decide to do this, all my attention needs to be focussed on the dog - not on how it will look for the camera. I have no illusions that this dog is adoptable. Honestly, it would probably be the kindest thing to put him down, because with his sheer size and weight, I would never allow him near a child with any history of (even mild) aggression. I don't think I am going to fix him to stroke my ego and build a following. I just want his day to be a little less miserable.

[@MrDynamart]

Love the pyramid 😉 who are you sharing that top spot with? 😂👍🐶♥️

[@cybilsnarf]

Cesar Milan

[@TheWackler]

Unemployed people hahaha this is even funnier to me cause I'm currently unemployed 😂❤

[@justchilling7594]

I believe another part of the pyramid should be trainers who only use a narrow methodology in their training regardless of the behaviour issues that are being treated.

[@chrisjames2334]

I would add trainers that go to homes to work with aggression (including human aggression). Which to me is very dangerous going into homes where the dog thinks is theirs. Also, doing it with no tools other than a slip leash (no muzzles).

[@davidoien]

😅nn😅

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Or Victoria Stilwell who can do it without even a slip lead..... Joel doesn't need them either - love it because the average Joe doesn't know how to use them, let alone put them on correctly.

[@0ddSoul]

Will Atherton is a great example of talkers. His video will be titled "3 tips on how to train THIS out of your dog", and he'll have a random dog sitting next to him while he keeps talking into oblivion and not showing literally anything (except for random stock footage of dogs doing athletic tricks wtf)

[@PaulaDTozer]

I’ve also seen Will’s videos when he’s working with dogs, problem dogs, but not a lot of aggressive dogs. Will’s legit.

[@peterwreford1520]

I disagree. I've been a long time follower of Will and have seen him work with difficult dogs on his channel. I also bought and used his Perfect Puppy Course for my dogs about 2.5 years ago. In my opinion he's legit top tier guy.

[@louieyorston863]

I live among Aboriginals and I can confirm it's absolutely ok to call them Aboriginal don't know your friends would say that Eric. They don't appreciate the short term * abbo* and that's ok because of the context that most use it for