What Ever Happened to Artemis Fowl?

**Correction - Artemiss Fowl is available on Disney+ as of now!
The world of Artemis Fowl is a captivating blend of magic, technology, and criminal masterminds. From his humble beginnings as a 12-year-old prodigy to his daring , Artemis Fowl's journey has enthralled readers worldwide. Join us as we delve into the enchanting history of this iconic series, exploring its soaring heights, and very low, lows.
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[@sammcarthur864]

One of the things that makes Artemis such an awesome character is just how driven he is. In a world of ten thousand 'chosen ones' he happens to the plot, not the other way around. The fact that he is a proactive, not a reactionary, protagonist is one of the many, many things that makes AF one of the best YA book series to this day.

[@exitsexamined]

That's a great point - he's not the chosen one or special in the first books (aside from being rich) and he is the reason the plot moves forward for much of the early books.

[@colbyboucher6391]

The first scene of the series being Artemis practically torturing some old alcoholic fairy for information certainly left an impression

[@johnwotek3816]

True. When I was a kid, there was three main book series I read: Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter and Percy Jackson. It got me into fanfiction and into writing. Later, I quickly noticed that the first Artemis Fowl was indeed far more worthy of the title of a protagonist than Percy or Harry, especially Harry who is a textbook passive character and constantly need other character to act first for the plot to go forward. It's especially true in the first books of these series. In the first Harry Potter, Harry has to be rescued by Hagrid, then he would have probably sat at school and do nothing if Voldy hadn't showed up. Harry pretty much only react to the bad guys actions. Artemis Fowl, meanwhile, is the complete opposite. He set up his goal, gather intel to reach his goal and reach it, sparking the whoe chain of event. It's even funnier to think he is technically the bad guy in his first story. I think this is due to the fact Artemis is a criminal mastermind so he does crime, so he need to be proactive in what he does and he will necessarly run into problem because of this. He also doesn't let the fact he is a child limiting him. The first AF book is frankly a lesson in storytelling. Everything is there. Pro-active protagonist, smart character being actually smart instead of everyone around being dumbed down, a perfect application of the Chekov gun principle that is used to build the world of Artemis Fowl (check it, pretty much every minor detail brought up early on has a payoff later), a colorfull cast of character that each have their goals and personnalities and a pacing that allow most of the story to hold into a 24h framework and could have easily been adapted into film to the letter). The movie was trully criminal.

[@SailorMya]

@@johnwotek3816 Because I heard what a dumpster fire the movie was I never even watched it and knowing now I can't watch it I'm not sad about that. The AF books stuck with me because he was the villain in the first one. You don't see a lot of child villains let alone ones that are the main protagonist! I was really hoping for a good adaptation so the people in my life that don't read the books could understand the joy I felt reading about his escapades but we didn't get that so I didn't even talk about the movie to people. I feel adapting stories is a good thing because not everyone reads the books but tossing the source material out the window and keeping the names only is not adapting the story... I hope that we get another shot at a movie down the line from a company that doesn't dislikes villains! (Disney likes trauma to be the bad guy instead of having an actual villain now a days to the point I don't think they know how to write a villain anymore...)

[@fuzzythoughts8020]

Agreed, he almost comes off as a side villain made protagonist, and he's actively going after things for his plans with a tenacity that's just enjoyable to read.

[@WildKat25]

The saddest part of the movie adaptation, is that there are deleted scenes/trailer parts that show it was meant to more closely follow the book. Some idiot higher up decided to try and make it more "marketable" (aka make Artemis more a kid than a brilliant genius with agency), but that completely ruins Artemis as a character.

[@exitsexamined]

I saw some deleted scenes that were based in Vietnam - but is there a link or something to that trailer? Would be interesting to see!

[@WildKat25]

@@exitsexamined It was all originally on Disney Plus (for Canada at least), but it seems to be all gone now. There was some stuff on KZbin for a bit, but it seems to have been copyrighted. It was probably because it was originally on Disney Plus.

[@noone1929]

I remember seeing on the (now dead) Oh My Disney website the first casting announcements they said Miranda Raison was to play Mrs. Fowl, but lo and behold when the movie was released she nowhere to be seen. Also that cast listing was the first warning bell, with Judi Dench as Root, undermining Holly's character as the hard fought first female LEP officer. But what really did it for me was the next post Oh My Disney did which was an interview with the director where he claims to be making "Artemis his own". Which is not usually what you want from a book adaption, you want the director to be taking their cues from the books not themselves and their directing style will shine through the story, not the story warped to their whims. Which is something most book adaption directors don't seem to understand lately. You can change the plot while adapting, every detail won't be the same they are two different mediums, but you can't mess with the core characters' personalities and the main themes of the story. I think that's why adaptions like HTTYD are popular despite some big plot differences. If you find the soul of the story, it won't feel so wrong as Artemis did.

[@collenjets123]

didnt just ruin artemis. He ruined holly and the chief as well.

[@jinhunterslay1638]

Why do higher ups exist? Why are they ALWAYS stupid?

[@pavel228]

It’s like they deliberately tried to make fans angry with the „adaptation“. The dead father - lives. The first ever female fairy agent - has a female boss now. The villain protagonist - just a kid, trying to save his father. He hates sport and sun and is pale as death - loves surfing now. The mother - irrelevant. I saw the trailer and immediately thought: Percy Jackson and Eragon combined their respective weaknesses so the bullshit gets up to eleven. It is just sad.

[@yarpen26]

Judi Dench as Root was the prime example of the tired "oh chill out, you silly redneck, like what does it even matter?" line being as off point as it gets to anybody who read the book.

[@exitsexamined]

Oh, don't worry - I'll get to Percy Jackson haha

[@SuperZez]

Um... the "dead" father _is_ alive.

[@victor-oh]

At least very clearly presumed dead for a few volumes ​@@SuperZez

[@FernBlackwood1995]

I’m glad I missed the adaptation, what GARBAGE. Ugh.

[@Kuroyami0Fukaikuro]

When I was a kid, I felt so disappointed that Minerva stopped being relevant after her single entry. It was refreshing to see a parallel character challenge Artemis on his own grounds somewhat. (Admittedly it's been a few years so I may be remembering some things wrong.) But I always felt Artemis needed more human friends, not just the Butler family.

[@exitsexamined]

That's a great point - I read (can't confirmed) it's because she wasn't received well and people were upset Artemis / Holly weren't a thing. It is too bad though because it makes you wonder if he had stuck with his guns what the plan would have been

[@yarpen26]

​@@exitsexamined And I, on my part, never got the ship with Holly, primarily due to the age difference. Nah, not because of all the scary pedo associations that everybody would jump on nowadays, I just simply didn't get why he should end up with someone who is, for all intents and purposes, an adult to him. Yes, Artemis is super intelligent, but still... it just never clicked with me. And I liked Minerva, mostly because Colfer actually allowed her to be inferior to Artemis in terms of brains while also putting her software side on display. I still think that Book 5 was quite possibly the single most unpredictable out of the whole series and I genuinely didn't know where it was going most of the time.

[@user-do7iu4fj8r]

@@yarpen26 Minerva was actually perfect pair for Artemis. Intelligent enough to understand him, but while not as smart as he was she was more humane than him. She was a perfect counterbalance in terms of personality. Even without any romance she would be nice addition to the team - someone who could actually question his decisions not only from moral standpoint, but from intellectual as well. Personally, her disappearance was major part of why I lost interest in the series.

[@yarpen26]

@user-do7iu4fj8r One more problem with Colfer writing in general: these books feel like one-shot episodes from a '90s cartoon rather than a Harry Potter-like continuous narrative. I think Minerva doesn't even get mentioned once in any subsequent book. It'd be like if Ron's parents were never referred to again after Chamber of Secrets.

[@Kuroyami0Fukaikuro]

@@yarpen26 she briefly gets a mention in one of the later books but IIRC it's literally just something like "she's not here to help because she's off on a vacation" or something

[@ArthurPhulusa568]

I felt in love with this when i found it in my school's library. What this series needed was a proper animated release, either a movie or a series

[@exitsexamined]

I totally agree, after checking out the graphic novels i think it translates really well to that format - have you checked out the graphic novels? You might like them!

[@ArthurPhulusa568]

@@exitsexamined I actually just found out about them from your video. I'll check them out😂

[@ana_d_73]

YES! 1000%! With animation they could absolutely go jam with the fairy world, fights, and magic. Butler vs the troll would be amazing animated!

[@JoeMama-bj9jw]

Disney is what happened to AF. The major red flag was combining the first two books into one movie

[@exitsexamined]

Yeah that's a great point, just too much story for one movie - especially when you're introducing the characters. I think they wanted to include Opal to like make sure you couldn't view Artemis as the bad guy smh

[@britishshock]

The fairy language at the bottom of each page, keep me looking thought the book for ages.

[@exitsexamined]

That's awesome! Did you manage to decode them throughout every book? That would be quite the feat haha

[@SilverScroll]

@@exitsexamined I decoded each one back in the day! Was really disappointed when first the first code got reused and then the puzzle stopped being included.

[@NatsumenoKage]

I really think Colfer hit his breaking point with Artemis when Disney was having him come out for defense of the movie during the backlash. When he said this was the way the story was ment to be.

[@exitsexamined]

It was so interesting to watch interviews with him during production. You could tell that he was really struggling haha

[@daniel8181]

Oof, didn't know he defended it, I'd hate to watch him cope like that.

[@NatsumenoKage]

​@@daniel8181 it looked, and sounded like a put up job. He was trying to sound so excited for it. As he answered pr questions, and announced the cast list. Every new video sounded more and more like he was working register during the pandemic. Just keep smiling through the mask they know if you are not.

[@daniel8181]

@@NatsumenoKage Wouldn't surprise me if he was contractually obligated to speak about it, and of course obligated to not talk shit on it.

[@mallk238]

Anytime you see an actor or person who is a public face of a movie praising said movie it’s because they are contractually obligated to. They cannot talk shit about the movie or they will be breaking contract. Even if they actually do LIKE the movie, they’re saying it bc they have to (although, that definitely makes it easier lol) Of course most actors would never publicly talk shit about the project even after the fact as that’s agreat way to get blacklisted. Showbiz is a fickle and strange beast.

[@ana_d_73]

I loved these books as a kid, I even re-read them over the pandemic. I did hate that by the of the series it kept returning to Opal Koboi as the big bad, although Artemis shooting her in the face with a flare gun was badass. There was so much potential for other villains within the world, that pixie was so frustrating! And I liked Minerva. She was fun, smart, spoilt, and such a great foil to Artemis. I know Colfer was setting her up as a love interest, but if he kept her as a friend and ally to the main group it could have really worked! I never liked Holly x Artemis, it was weird. She was older than his parents. I've always wished she could have stepped in to be a big sister mentor role instead. Holly and Butler however... I really loved the Bartimeaus books as well. They 're super underrated, and so good

[@exitsexamined]

Totally agree about seeing less Opal and more Minerva! These must have been a good read over the pandemic. Did you ever. check out the twin series?

[@05Matz]

Wait, the Bartimeaus books? That's the ones with all the footnotes, right? About the summoned spirit beings? I loved those! Thanks for reminding me of them. Gosh those were fun...

[@augustdice3914]

Holly x Artemis is so much more trouble than benefit. I’ve never understood the fascination. Personally, I think Artemis was prime to be an Asexual icon. The character didn’t really lend itself to a romantic relationship and was best when exploring his need of friendship.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

​@augustdice3914 Artemis was quite simply a mental juggernaut. He should have stayed like that - weird, brilliant, and strangely likeable.

[@colby1398]

​@@augustdice3914Oh no, the brilliant teenage boy is interested in girls just like a normal person, what a tragedy.

[@seventhshin0bi864]

Artemis Fowl, The Last Apprentice (Spooks if you’re in the UK), and Skulduggery Pleasant were so peak to read. They defined my early teen years. Grimalkin my beloved.

[@thesatelliteslickers907]

the spooks apprentice, man thats a series that i haven't thought about in years, amazing dark fantasy

[@spiral2754]

Spook's is peak. Made my childhood so much more bearable.

[@lemonlupinreuben5362]

Ooooooh skulduggery what a read

[@kni9ght]

I love those books and batrimeus trilogy was pretty good too

[@travisperkins9920]

Good news, there's more skulduggery pleasant books. At least 3 more on the way.

[@johnwotek3816]

As a long lasting fan of the serie, here is my take on it. Beware, this zone is full of spoiler. Artemis Fowl: the first book, probably the best in the serie. It is Die Hard meet Ocean 11 with fairies. Great pacing, great writing, litteraly the textbook exemple on how to properly use Chekov's gun. If you only have to read one, go for this one. Artemis Fowl the Artic Incident: it's the one that made Artemis a hero in a more classical sense. It's not as thightly written as the first book, but it introduce the best vilain of the serie. It's the more "normal" of the books. Artemis Fowl the Eternity code: this is probably the most important book in the serie, since Artemis get to actually be confronted by the consequences of his decisions and actions. It is what trully turn him from the bratty little shit that he is into a more mature and well rounded hero and cement his friendship with the fairy. It is cruelly taken away by the end, ressetting the former status quo. If Colfer main intent was to make a trilogy, I think that woud have been a rather poor idea considering what the character went through. Artemis Fowl the Opal deception: is my favorite of the entire serie. It is simply the ballsiest of the serie. It kills off important character, leaves us on a bitter sweet ending that would have been perfect as the serie's ending, conclude Artemis character arc and use Opal Koboi in the best way possible. Artemis Fowl the Lost colony: I think this is where the serie start to crack for me. That book is good in itself, but it suffer from what came before. It introduce stuff that make the lore a bit more complicated (like, seriously, Wing commander Vinyaya is, by that point, becoming a plot device that make the LEP structure very confusing) and I think it trully poorly handle the character of Holly, who slowly stop to be her own character and become more Artemis personnal muscle. While the demons and Minerva are trully wonderfull addition to the universe, the Lost colony is guilty of handwaving way too much obstacle on the path of the character. Holly isn't a LEP officer since last book? Vinyaya will reinstate her because Foaly like her. Ark Sool is still the LEP commander? Who cares? Trouble will replace him off screen. Artemis Fowl the Time Paradox: time travel is always a very delicate thing and, frankly, Artemis Fowl completely jumped the shark with that tome. The good stuff from the lost colony will not be used or will be cancelled very early on, some important status quo element (like the rules to enter a human building) are been overulled between the books. Opale is shoehorned in the plot and is pretty much a parody of herself. The book could also make you think the ship between Artemis and Holly is now an actual thing which doesn't help. I think this is easily the weakest tome in the entire serie. Artemis Fowl and the Atlantis Complex: That book feels like a filler episode. Last book ended with an Opal from the past showing up to cause trouble in our time, capturing her should be the main priority, yet, we are being hickjacked by Artemis having a mental breakdown and by a new antagonist that the book treat as if everyone had read the bonus material "the Artemis Fowl files". I guess Opal can only be the antagonist of even tomes. It is overall enjoyable, but Colfer is trully repeating himself. Artemis struggle again with his morality and his capacity to open to his friends, a mentor figure dies again, etc... Artemis Fowl the last Guardian: this is the last book in the main franchise and, let's just say there is a big "toy box effect". Everything litteraly explode (and, no, this isn't a hyperbole, the world is figuratively sent back to the stone age in a single shot), everyone is brought to fight it, Artemis even get a cool "Fowl mobile" and he get to cheat death itself while battling ancient goddess fairy warrior. It is enjoyable, but this felt more like the story a little would make with his toy, sending them everywhere in the room and feeling a sense of annoyance when come the time to put everything back in the box. I think the big problem with the series is that Colfer didn't knew what to do with characters, especially Artemis and Holly after the Opal deception. They had resolved their arc in a rather satisfying and logical way. Artemis was now a real goodguy who started to use his genius for making a better world, Holly had left the LEP to do her own thing, because she couldn't deal with the hypocrisy of the instution, which became worse after the death of her mentor figure. Artemis the good guy is mostly done in rather supperficial ways and we loose the super genius he was at book 6, from which he is pretty much a far cry of the mastermind we used to know. Holly, meanwhile, is reinstated and her beef with the LEP is pretty much handwaved in book 5 as if nothing ever happened. Then, if you look at secundary character, the whole thing becomes more and more difficult. Mulch, who is often used as the ace in the sleeves of Artemis or Holly is more and more shoehorned in the story and more and more utilitarian. The Kelp brother pretty much disapear. Grub and Trouble have always been nice foil to Holly and Root. Trouble was the very model of a LEP officer, efficient, courageous and by the book with a dash of bravado, while his little brother, Grub, was the incompetent, cowardly and contentious cop. Both were however loyal and well meaning, rising to the occasion, either by accident or by their strenght of character. They offered a nice view of what the rank and file of the LEP was like. By book 5, Trouble is basically turning into Root 2.0 and Grub is simply gone. Honestly, after the opal deception, the only character whom trully benefit from further developpment are the Butler and the rest of the Fowl familly. Butler is confronted to his declining health, Juliet become the ace in Artemis sleeves during odds book (except in the 8) and Fowl Sr, Angeline and the Twin get show a rather wholesome story of redemption and turning good. Foaly also benefit quite from the last 4 books of the serie, getting to be something more than the tech support guy. He gets a girlfriend, grows more involved into the LEP affairs and even get his own set piece at the end of the book, where he is alone and must solve his problem alone without anyone's help.

[@nicholasbarton3184]

Whoa, never even bothered with the movie and it sounds like that was the right decision. Cool to know that about the Twin's series, I'll have to check it out - awesome job as usual!!

[@cayreet5992]

The series is interesting and surprisingly adult, considering the age of the protagonists.

[@exitsexamined]

With the twin series? Do you think it's more adult compared to the original or just different?

[@daniel8181]

I wouldn't have been able to finish the movie if I wasn't watching it with my friends drinking and laughing at it. The only shame in it being removed is that you'll never convince anyone who didn't see it that disney was willing to put out something so bad.

[@antonjohansson3819]

The Opal Deception could've been the best way to end the series. A lot of character development coming to an end and a logical second half of The Eternity Code.

[@exitsexamined]

Totally agree, it's interesting because the last few paragraphs of it is actually kind of written as an ending of the series.

[@mayabailes1653]

Have to disagree there because we wouldn't have had The Time Paradox (my favourite) or The Atlantis Complex (might be one of the weakest, but Orion Fowl completely makes up for it).

[@wilamblack8372]

My books as a kid: Artemus Fowl, 39 clues, a series of unfortunate events, Percy Jackson, Pendragon series, etc.

[@MichelleSudarsono]

Did any of you guys read the books about his twin brothers? I tried reading it but, maybe because I'm an adult now, seeing little kids being able to do so many genius things (they're younger than Arty when he started) and overpower adults kinda puts me off for some reason. I didn't finish the book yet, I stopped halfway because I've yet to see them struggle (mentally or physically) the way Arty did. Arty is smart, but weak so he had to rely on Butler. The twins had each other. Butler has devoted his life to train as a great martial artist; yet, one of the twin was just... good at it. It's bordering Gary Sue. Maybe it's just me. I really wanted the Twin Fowl to continue the legacy Artemis Fowl was/is, but maybe I'm no longer the target audience.

[@well09090]

For me, it is off putting because it destroys any sense of tension and screws with suspension of disbelief. I can suspend disbelief and accept that a child prodigy exists.

[@rubinelli7404]

I loved the first book, but the more sympathetic Artemis became, the worse the books came out. It was no longer him pushing the story forward with his plans.

[@exitsexamined]

I hear you, I think they lost a lot of that initial intrigue when Artemis became less black and white

[@kamikazelemming1552]

It's just like with Despicable Me. Once Gru stopped being despicable and turned into a goofy dad, he lost a lot of what made him interesting. Heck, from the second film onward, the only reason he even does anything is because someone else (the spy organization) tells him to do it, whereas in the first film, he was the one actively pushing the story forward with his plan to steal the moon and get revenge on Vector.

[@KeeperOfSecrets-42069]

I remember reading this in like the 5th grade. I loved it.

[@exitsexamined]

We would have been friends in 5th grade then haha

[@SailorMya]

I will never understand "Hollywood" mentality... Producers see a product like a book or video game become popular and amass fans but when they go to make a movie or show they strip away the source material because it doesn't fit the cookie cutter movie/show formula they are use to! I'm happy to see some producers take that step back and letting the creative prosses flourish but when they are breathing down the necks of the writer/directors we get adaptations in name only because of all the changes they insist must happen... I have a feeling someone up the chain HATED that AF was the villain and insisted on this fundamental change that affected the whole story.

[@exitsexamined]

Did you see that recent post by George RR Martin about this exact issue? He hit the nail on the head

[@mallk238]

Whats worse is that there are a lot of writers/directors who don’t see the adaptions as an opportunity to make a book come alive but instead are just an opportunity for them to make the movie THEY want to make. Like i know Ive heard stories of this where a director is put on an adaptation project, they don’t care enough to read the book, and instead treat it as an opportunity to make the movie they’ve always wanted to make. The end result being something that only pisses off fans of the book and drives away regular audiences because there was a reason that “movie they always wanted to make” couldn’t get backing on its own. Of course then there’s the who executives dilemma you mention. There is no winning with adaptations ;-;

[@Ezullof]

They don't understand what made these stories good, and they often think it's obsolete remnants of bygone eras. It's like how they stripped Soka of his sexism in the Avatar Netflix series: they fail to understand that characters in kid stories have flaws that are generally addressed later on. Flaws and tragedies, btw. Artemis Fowl's family is a tragedy for good reasons. He's not a normal kid that people are supposed to identify with completely.

[@Matej_Sojka]

@@exitsexamined Remember the well received short Uncharted movie starring Nathan Fillion? Fans went nuts when they saw over the shoulder camera, combat overview and transitions of scenes straight from the games... And during promotional interviews the director said that if he was making a full length movie he would not do any of those things. That was the moment when I stopped hoping adaptations would ever be good.

[@SamGarcia]

Artemis Fowl was my life. The first book I bought with my own money from the Scholastic Book Fair was Opal Deception. I believe I did play the video game before, but I have a flawed memory, what I remember is some kind of fairy word search type thing using Gnommish, though that could be completely wrong. I do know I was trying to find an Artemis Fowl game while I was waiting at the library computers.

[@exitsexamined]

Wow Scholastic book fair! I was thinking about covering that as well haha. Glad to know I wasn't the only one stumped by the game - did you get through the entire series?

[@SamGarcia]

@@exitsexamined I got through the main series and most of the spinoffs except the Fowl Twins though I've read Eion Colfer's non-Artemis Fowl works then more.

[@hereticsaint100]

I have a great respect for creators who know when to finish their works. These really should have stopped at book 3.

[@exitsexamined]

It would have been interesting to see how the story would have played out differently with only three. I do wonder if in all it would have been less episodic and hopefully a more fleshed out story from start to end

[@sigiligus]

Read the first three or four books many many times as a child. Now that I think about it, they were like Light Novel’s in that they were basically like anime in book form.

[@exitsexamined]

If only we got an anime instead of a movie haha

[@shanerulez79]

Is it just me or does the Graphic Novel version of Artemis look a lot like Damien Wayne?

[@exitsexamined]

I can't unsee it

[@FieryCheeze]

If you want another dead franchise suggestion , try Guyver. From what I understand, the author is stuck in legal battles over the IP

[@exitsexamined]

I had never heard of it, but wow Guyver looks amazing, a quick google search looks like it started as a manga which makes me all the more interested in it haha. Did you get into the manga, is it good?

[@iantaran2843]

That first book was an experience as a child

[@exitsexamined]

haha I can imagine it could be pretty shocking depending on the age. How old were you when you read it?

[@iantaran2843]

@@exitsexamined 7 or 8 ? Fairly young I recall I was waiting on the 5th or 6th Harry Potter novel to be released at the time.

[@psychosis8429]

Awesome I loved this series when I was younger, although the later chunk of the series wasn't as great as the start of the series. Great to see it get some appreciation

[@exitsexamined]

Hey totally agree, and happy to give it the appreciation it deserves. Any other series you were into as a kid that you think should get more love?

[@psychosis8429]

@exitsexamined I also read and enjoyed the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series when I was younger too. That would be a fun series to talk about

[@Dragon66898]

I got into the Artemis Fowl around 2010 and enjoyed it more than Harry Potter since I was more of a Sci-Fi fan than Fantasy fan but loved how they were blended so well with each other. The movie was fine if you weren’t expecting much.

[@exitsexamined]

Oh cool, what type of sci-fi were you interested in? I'd love to cover more here on the channel

[@Dragon66898]

@@exitsexamined mostly Star Wars, or the whole digital world like series like Ghost in the Shell. I have dyslexia so reading was more of a chore for me until high school where I began to love it.

[@frogosplayer1]

I remember not being able to stomach harry potter books when i was young (and it wasn't just the length coz i have always read bulky books and this is despite enjoying the HP movies) but i read and loved Artemis Fowl! I felt like Artemis was more grounded (for as much as a boy genius can be lol) and the magical world and angle was more fun and interesting.

[@exitsexamined]

We probably would have gotten along then! I would have loved to find someone else to bond over the series with haha. Everyone I knew was into Potter : (

[@frogosplayer1]

@@exitsexamined 🤣 aww that's too bad. Great video btw!

[@maham1949]

Artemis Fowl was my entire childhood. I remember picking up the first book in my library when I was 12 and finishing it in a weekend because I was so intrigued by Artemis's character. The fact that he was also 12 but he was also this insanely intelligent yet cunning criminal mastermind, was so fascinating to me! And the fairy folk too! I love how we had descriptions for each category. I remember the versions of the book that I got, they had some sketches made by the artist at the back (but none of them really showed Arty or Butlers face because it was supposed to be an interview type thing...Arty lets Eoin Colfer write a book about his adventures and commisions an artist to do the illustrations at the back upon the agreement that his face was never to be shown! How cool was that!!) And the graphic novels were so beautifully illustrated, I remember absolutely devouring them when they came out. I was so obsessed with the series It kind of inspired me to make art (im a digital artist now) and write fanfictions for my friend's to read. One of them was a crossover woth the Young Justice team (also another one of my hyperfixations at the time), where Butler drops Arty off with the team and Artemis makes fun of Arty for having a female name (HER NAME) haha and Arty hits it off with Dick Grayson :) It was weird but I was 13!! I remember the days where people were petitioning to have Nicholas Hoult play Arty as well I really miss that phase of my life Im 26 now, but I cant remember being thst happy and carefree Artemis Fowl really made my childhood and early teens so fun and magical

[@cobinizer]

How about "Whatever happened to originality in Hollywood?" Who wants to see another Fast and Furious installment?

[@emjakos3548]

I assume that the answer is money. Do you want to roll the dice with a new IP, or guarantee sales with a sequel?

[@brandonjones5879]

There are a lot of original movies that come out every year. It’s just those films don’t get a lot of money nor do they make money. So you don’t hear about it.

[@augustdice3914]

Is this a lack of creativity or simply what happens to art in a capitalist system? F&F are profitable AS FUCK!

[@OtterloopB]

Disney AND Eoin ruined it. Eoin seemingly had such little respect for his own work that he made no attempt to stop Disney from changing it so radically. The movie looked nothing... _NOTHING_ ... like Artemis Fowl.

[@exitsexamined]

I did wonder about that while making the video. Ultimately Eoin was the one who signed it to Disney, and you get the feeling from interviews he genuinely wanted it to find a home that would take care of it in like 2001. This is just speculation but the feeling I got that after almost 20 years in development hell Eoin was sick of dealing with it and just wanted the movie to come out

[@yarpen26]

He was absolutely _desperate_ to make a movie out of it from the very start. You could read it in the book blurbs, every single time it was all "Guys, the movie's totally in development! WIll be out by 2003!". He wouldn't mince a word against Disney, it was only after the movie crashed and burned that he kinda started hinting on this being a total trainwreck, but he never really stepped out of line. Maybe he still deludes himself into thinking Disney would pick up Supernaturalist or one of his other books. I don't know.

[@colbyboucher6391]

​@@yarpen26Supernatualist, oh man... the one and only thing I remember from it is that some guy freaked out because he didn't know how to drive a bus with the "emergrncy" steering wheel that popped out of it. Kinda left an impression on be besause of how much it mirrors people not knowing how to drive stick.

[@henryburby6077]

Book 5 should have been the last. It was awesome. After that it went downhill.

[@hippogriffsrule7]

Book 5 was always my favourite!

[@pavel228]

Book five was great. It was actually the first one I read. (I got some persons books when they moved out their parents house and didn’t know it was the fifth book of a series.) I then read 1-3 and lost interest a little in - I think - the fourth book. But maybe the sixth.

[@yarpen26]

Book 4 was already a step down. Yes, it did start out great (we all know why), but the rest of it was rather meh. I never understood why Colfer kept reusing Opal over and over. She was okay as a sidekick to Cudgeon in Book 2, but on her own she sucked balls. And her only motivation after that was... revenge. Yawn.

[@ProfSir1]

You should talk about Animorphs next.

[@exitsexamined]

I had totally forgotten about Animorphs, that's a great idea! Although it's been so long I'll need awhile to get back into it haha

[@catandrobbyflores]

I second this!

[@hi14993]

I remember spending quite a bit of time when I was younger cracking the codes that littered the book and translating those messages.

[@exitsexamined]

We probably would have gotten along as kids! Did you crack the codes at the bottom of the pages?

[@hippogriffsrule7]

Would you be interested in making a video about the Dark Crystal franchise? The 2019 Netflix sequel got canceled a while ago and no one's heard about it since...

[@exitsexamined]

That's a great idea! You know I remember watching that as a kid but I totally forgot about it haha. Thanks so much!

[@hippogriffsrule7]

@@exitsexamined No problem, glad you found the idea useful!

[@ChristoTitan]

Damn, I was about 11 or 12 when I got into this series. The first books I became absolutely obsessed with. Peak nostalgia.

[@exitsexamined]

I got into it at the same age! Did you stick with it over the years?

[@sieversen1235]

I got into this series when my parents bought me the audiobook of the eternity code, not knowing that it was the 3rd book of the series. I didn't figure that out myself until halfway through the book after constantly trying to piece together the whole backstory. :D

[@exitsexamined]

haha that would have been a really interesting place to start. Did it make sense? I can't imagine trying to piece together fairy society without the details in the first few books

[@sieversen1235]

@@exitsexamined It worked out well enough, surprisingly. I remember the author re-introduces characters a lot in case you might have forgotten about them (like Mulch and Juliet for example) and most of that book takes place in the human world. The significance of Artemis' bodyguard being shot at the beginning was kind of lost on me, because I obviously didn't know anything about Butler at that point. And I also didn't quite realize how bad the relationship between Artemis and the fairy society used to be. Because they get along fairly well by Book 3.

[@pavel228]

I felt like that, just with the fifth one :))

[@mallk238]

@exitsexamined a lot of series for younger readers make a habit of quickly synopsizing the previous books-probably bc a lot of kids won’t have control over what book they read first or maybe bc they don’t want a kid (who’s memory may not be great) to forget important details. Idk if it’s intentional in that light, i just know that i see it a lot. It makes it so much easier to get into things as a kid.

[@EvilFuzzy9]

I only remember reading two Artemis Fowl books…

[@EterPuralis]

Shuld have gone to the Japanese anime scene for that movie adaptation.

[@exitsexamined]

I would have loved to see an Artemis anime. The graphic novels were already pretty cool!

[@britishshock]

I loved Artemis Fowl, so sad the movie didn't happen. And now I've watched the video, I guess their was an anime for this

[@exitsexamined]

Hopefully we'll get another movie at some point in the future. The stills are from the graphic novels, although an anime would be really cool!

[@yarpen26]

​@@exitsexamined Nah, I think AF has wasted its opportunity. It should have been brought to the screen back in the 2000s, when everybody was trying to land another Harry Potter and studios would throw loads of money at anything with the YA label on it, but I think that fad largely died with The Hunger Games. And now that one movie has been an unmitigated disaster, it's very unlikely the license will ever be picked up again. Yes, I know that Colfer did sign an agreement with Disney way back already, it just never panned out. He certainly did whatever he could to bring it to the screen when the series was fresh.

[@theotherghostgirl337]

Hopefully this will end up being like the Percy Jackson adaptation, where in 10 years they do a faithful reboot series

[@CmdrVoltaire]

Loved the books as a kid and still do now. It felt like I got stabbed in the heart when I saw what they did to the movie.

[@exitsexamined]

You aren't the only one, sigh

[@sethkarma2072]

Its because of this series I own a sig sauer legion.

[@lowesgameing2003]

I used to love the Artemis Fowl graphic novels

[@debbieg.4882]

I think an animated adaptation would be great. I love the Artemis Fowl series. I discovered it when I was in college and still enjoyed (most of) them. There's only two that I could really do without: The Time Paradox and The Atlantis Complex.

[@shawnwitthoff471]

For about 3/4 of the first book, Artemis is essentially a pure villainous character. Sympathetic in some cases, maybe, but a villain nonetheless. He is legitimately cold and calculating. He is less than a little bothered to actually hurt people - physically, psychologically, and emotionally - in order to get what he wants. Butlers gun is not a briefly mentioned object - it is a carefully chosen and cherished Sig Sauer. When he fights the troll it is a violent event, by someone proficient in violence. His thoughts on the world are tainted by the violence and cruelty he had seen and inflicted. Yet are still shaped by the responsibility and growing care he feels for Artemis. His mother's mental illness is vividly described in a disturbing manner. And despite all of the resources at his disposal, along with his incredible intelligence and resourcefulness - he is unable to help her even slightly. Calling this book "Young Adult" was a stretch - and that's a huge reason of what got me so invested. Before this the most "mature" literature I had delved into was history involving the more modern conflicts of the USA, particularly WW2 THE MOVIE WAS SICKENINGLY BAD. It destroyed EVERYTHING the book did right. It changed the tone, themes, conflict, plot points, and most importantly the characters and their extremely important internal development and evolving relationships with each other. in my opinion it was the worst film adaptation of a book, and that's including the consideration of Percy Jackson.

[@milestrombley1466]

Hollywood now thinks having a young villain in a kids movie is a bad influence on kids now.

[@exitsexamined]

I think that's literally one of the reasons why they changed his character and he already has redeeming qualities and it's been proven he's an interesting character. There's been entire generations who read the series and weren't influenced to be what, fairy kidnappers? oh my god it's so frustrating haha

[@JP-1990]

I always imagined Butler looking like The Rock.

[@exitsexamined]

Honestly in my kid imagination I felt the same haha

[@Templar327]

My HS had the first four books which was how I got to love them. I always pictured Jason Stratham as Butler and I'm still conviced he's the perfect face for the role.

[@exitsexamined]

I can 100% see that haha, and glad your HS had some good books!

[@muriok2474]

Nice video, I honestly enjoyed this books as a kid, and bc of this video, I think I might revist them 😁

[@exitsexamined]

Thanks so much! I'd say go for it, I had a blast rereading them for this vid!

[@GhostKingDeAngelo]

Am I the only one who liked the later books? I thought the first two were fine but boring to reread as much as I did. I was so excited for the last book and loved it when it came out. Some of the books were good and some were more meh but they were all perfect for little nerdy child me.

[@exitsexamined]

I see what you're saying about the older books, and hey nothing wrong with liking with you like! I thought they had some good ideas and concepts my main issue is that did become a little formulaic as in, the crew saves the day and everyone is happy, next and so the series kind of ran out of steam or a reason to stay invested. Alot of people seem to like many of the late books and put them as their favorite from the research I did though!

[@boskilingenfelter9515]

Kind of bummed out i missed out on this book series as a kid. Sounds like something a younger me would have definitely enjoyed.

[@exitsexamined]

Rereading them for this video as an adult was fun as well! There's enough adult jokes and themes in here!

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

Only vaguely related, there was a YA teen super-villain school series. Seem to recall the title was some kind of acronym.

[@joshuasmith147]

Sounds like H.I.V.E?

[@exitsexamined]

Not much to go on but I'll do my best! I'll let you know if I find any haha

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

@@exitsexamined Went and looked for it out of curiosity. I remember it not being as grimdark as most teen hero/villain books and having a villain/mastermind track and henchmen course at the school. Pretty sure it was H.I.V.E after doing some googling.

[@PolyChromium]

H.I.V.E. ?

[@LowbrowDeluxe]

@@PolyChromium Yup, pretty sure that was it. Remember it being relatively light hearted, but fun.

[@clydemarshall8095]

He wrote Artemis having a crush on Holly then called it gross?

[@exitsexamined]

Weird right? You can find the interview of him talking about it on youtube. I guess he later changed his mind due to the popularity of the Atremis / Holly romance in the fan base

[@briandaleske5139]

I think the stories of (ARTEMIS FOWL) should be made into a cartoon show. If a cartoon show of it, gets made someday; I imagine main boy Artemis, goes from selfish, egocentric, mean jerk, to slowly becoming a genuine good person.

[@Thenewboidahlia]

I think it would do wonderfully in a cartoon setting! I’d watch it so fast!

[@theliato3809]

I remember reading the books and the comics. The Trailer for the movie just smacked me in the face.

[@exitsexamined]

I think we all felt the same!

[@thatonebean141]

ooooooh i need to reread that series, i was sooo into it in middle school

[@exitsexamined]

I the first few were awesome to jump back into! They have some great audiobook versions as well

[@JustClaude13]

I'm of the Danny Dunn generation. I remember the trailer for Jedi Fowl; Kid In Black. I've seen all the movies they robbed and they did it better than AF.

[@exitsexamined]

Danny Dunn has been added to the list of topics I'll cover!

[@joshp.2872]

I absolutely adored the first six Artemis Fowl books, with my favourites being the 1st and 5th. I read all of them probably 10 or more times growing up. I think the series just had its time and success and that the author should have moved on to another series rather than continuing past book 6. His standalone novels Airman and Half Moon Investigations were also EPIC.

[@exitsexamined]

I think there were a ton of amazing ideas in the first books, but agree, probably could have stopped after that. Cool to hear about Airman and Half Moon but I'll have to check it out! Is it a similar writing style to Artemis / written for younger audience?

[@chigo999]

I loved Airman!! Such a unique book

[@yothiga]

I think a lot of millennials are so lucky to have a book series growing up with you. Those series are amazing. I have another series called Daren Shan that no one really knows and movies adaptation was so bad it canceled after just one movie. I hope it gets another chance.

[@exitsexamined]

I put Daren Shan on my list! I'll let you know if I look into it in the future. How do you think it compares to the Artemis Fowl series?

[@YBPaladin]

Man, I had such a crush on Foaly that I stopped reading the series when he got a girlfriend lmao

[@catsandd0gs605]

i had a huge crush on artemis lmfao

[@mirunaf1318]

Gods, I feel so bad for how this series ended! I LOVED the first six books (especially Artemis Fowl, The infinity code and The Opal deception), and I was very sad to see the next two books were a big downgrade from the previous instalments of the series. I was even more disappointed when, upon buying the Fowl Twins spinoff the whole thing just seemed like a failed attempt to give people closure of the last series and continue the universe. The level dropped significantly from the AF series and I, once a very dedicated fan who was so caught on in Artemis's adventures she pulled an all night-er just to finish the Eternity Code to literally spending three weeks TRYING to find something significantly good about the spinoff that would give me enough motivation to finishing it (spoiler alert: I never found it). I am so incredibly glad I am not the only one stuck with the books in my head, because from the moment I read the whole series more than one year ago (I had read the first four books before, but was not aware there were more until a year and a bit ago) these dam fairies and criminal masterminds have been living rent free in the center of my skull and each time I think of them (which is like a minimum of five times a day, mind you) my heart aches knowing that series that got me through my seventh and eight year of school will never get the closure it deserves.

[@chickenmonger123]

The Time Paradox is when the series lost me. I remember thinking it was tedious and contrived. Nothing that happened felt like it took advantage of the foundation of the earlier books.

[@Acatandanomad]

I read a ton back then. My favorite was A Series of Unfortunate Events, but i did love Artemis and HP as well. I miss those series.

[@exitsexamined]

A series of unfortunate events is on my list to cover! I'll let you know when I release it

[@Acatandanomad]

@@exitsexamined really?!? I can't wait! It was such an adventure!

[@sukanasuke88]

Ah, the only fantasy books series I read as a kid which none of my friends ever heard about...

[@montenegroafro4454]

Let the new adaptation be animated like Treasure Planet’s style or Arcane! Right now, the studios need to stop with the live action teen franchise adaptations, it’s getting boring and redundant.

[@exitsexamined]

Oh I hadn't checked out treasure planet yet, looks cool! I think Disney will probably learn their lesson hopefully with all the recent flops. I do hope they can turn things around because they have some great IPs

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

The only good thing I have to say about the film was that it made me binge read all the books... As someone who never even heard of Artimus Fowl before, the film was mind numbingly aweful.

[@exitsexamined]

It gives me so much hope in humanity that you watched the movie but then still had time for the books, good on you! What did you think of them?

[@jadedshard9650]

I had such a crush on short

[@Kushula4815]

If I remember correctly, didn't Butler kill the troll with his bare hands in the book? Can't remember a mace.

[@exitsexamined]

My memory is a bit foggy because every time I read the passage my 10 year brain shouts at me "this is the coolest thing ever" but despite that I'm pretty sure we're both right - Butler uses a mace, a gun, and his hands to take it down

[@TheTookinator]

How could COVID 19 have delayed it in 2019 when the very first case was seen in December 2019, and it wasn't declared a public health emergency until early the next year?

[@Ocelot835]

I remember reading first three books when I was in middle school. They were quite cheesy to my taste even back then and I didn't liked the Fantasy part, but I really enjoyed everything else that was around Artemis Fowl! He was perfect as an evil mastermind that is always two steps ahead his foes

[@GoldenMan1002]

My only complaint about the story was they didn't follow up on the Holly Artemis romance wouldn't have been bad to go thru but I think it would've gone better for it to come up and the age difference addressed and his youth even for his species, and just be very good friends who care about each other with a DEEEEEEEEEEEP respect and trust due to tge unusual circumstances they've gone thru.

[@LeonBes]

Like another comment dives into, it's obvious that Colfer didn't know what to do with the characters after the Opal Deception. IMO the series really should have ended then and there, but you know, money talks. The last book I read as a kid was The Last Colony, and after that I couldn't really bother keeping up with the series. Mind you, I was also EXTREMELY obsessed with these books at one point, but I was almost a teenager by the time the Last Colony came out and it wasn't good enough to keep me hooked. Artemis wasn't an anti-hero anymore, and his redemption arc had fully been completed in OD. Most of the relationships between the characters were boring by now (again, several arcs had been completed at this point) and I found Minerva, whose introduction did genuinely have the potential to jump start a whole new arc for Artemis, to be incredibly underutilized. Not necessarily as a romantic partner for Artemis, but as a foil and/or new arch nemesis in general (though speaking of romance, yes, I do find it weird and cliche that Colfer eventually shoe horned in an Artemis Holly romance). I never bothered actually reading the 6th and 7th books (read their wiki summaries instead), but I did check out the Last Guardian purely out of nostalgia purposes. It was fine as a send off to my favorite childhood series, but even that didn't compel me to go back to the installments that I had missed. Tbh, I will always consider The Opal Deception to be the true ending of the series. That first half of the Artemis Fowl saga is just unmatched.

[@victoriaweasley1115]

I love Artemis Fowl, and as with everything I love, I know it has flaws. That said, I didn't think the episodic nature was one of them, because while there was no overarching plot, the characters were not stagnant, especially not Artemis himself. I will contend that Artemis Fowl II has one of the most dynamic (not the best) character arcs in fiction.

[@exitsexamined]

Fair enough, just one opinion anyway and great to meet other people who are into the series! I didn't mean to imply that Artemis or the characters were stagnant more so that the books were episodic. Totally agree though Artemis from first to last book is totally different

[@xfel5913]

I absolutely loved this series, though I agree it fell kind of off after a while. Eternity Code would have been a decent conclusion, then the Opal Deception was a nice way to solve the dissatisfying parts of that ending while also managing to somewhat age with its audience. Book five is where it started to go bad, mostly because it kind of just casually reverted some of the big changes of the end of the previous book. It also started the trend to go extremely wild with the magic system, each part adding more outlandish magic as opposed to the relatively strict rules used in the first half.

[@Gashren]

Wait, there were more than three books?

[@exitsexamined]

Why did you think it ended at 3 haha

[@thecanadianfood]

The gnomish language was fun to translate. I remember I got to the point where I could basically read it like English.

[@exitsexamined]

I wish I had you as a pen pal in middle school - would have LOVED to write a letter to someone in gnomish haha

[@sophis9453]

Also he made sense as a child villain if you were raised elite, upperclass, and ridiculous smart with wealth you had slipping through your hands you'd dig your hands and teeth in to stop it

[@darthplagueis13]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm not too sad that the book series is over. The first three are among my favourite books, which I do occasionally re-read, just for the sake of nostalgia. But the sequels? Gonna be honest, I feel like they're just lacking direction and start losing their bite, especially once you get to the lost colony and the mess that is the time paradox. Artemis also just becomes less interesting. One of the things that make him a compelling character is how in spite of all his brains, he sometimes is a bit of an idiot. Like when Butler expresses concerns about his social skills and tries to stress the importance of communication and Artemis just shruggs it off by boasting about his extensive vocabulary.

[@exitsexamined]

That's a fair take I think - did you read any of the spin offs or the twin series?

[@darthplagueis13]

@@exitsexamined I think I may have read the one with the short stories at some point, but nothing about the twins.

[@hugomungus7306]

It all went to heck in the sixth book. At least for me. Three and four are some of my favourite YA novels to date. I will NEVER see that movie. Side note: read Airmen. Its another banger from this author.

[@joshp.2872]

I agree. Book six was a steep dropoff in quality. Book 5 was my favourite. Billy Kong as the villain was thrilling. And yes, Airman is an absolute BANGER!

[@exitsexamined]

Seems a lot of people are recommending Airman! I haven't checked it out, but looks cool! Is it similar to. the Artemis series?

[@joshp.2872]

@@exitsexaminedAirman is historical action adventure fiction set in the late 1800s.

[@demonheart13]

As soon as i saw the title i couldnt flphysically stop myself from saying Disney out loud.

[@falsealias2046]

The only thing that stopped Artemis Fowl from being the fantasy juggernaut my Harry Potter was Harry Potter

[@exitsexamined]

That's interesting - it does make you think how many other YA fantasy novels that could have blown up took a seat during the whole Harry Potter thing

[@mariahanczewska8109]

I think that this comment section is the best place to start my search: Anyone of you remember "Matt Hidalf"? Four books(at least four of them were released in my language), bratty (and egotistical) protagonist and his odd companions(sisters, his very... specific father and cunning mother, his classmates with vary level of inteligence), written by French author(?), published circa 2014? I remember that pacing of series was weird and, overall, it was not that good but I like it as guilty pleasure, few concepts from books would be awesome in something better.

[@exitsexamined]

Have no idea on my part at least - but if someone knows the title I'd be happy to put it on my list of topics to cover - sounds cool!

[@yarpen26]

Google knows all about it all right so I guess your research is over.

[@lyudmiltsekov8557]

I mean... the last book in the main series also jumped the shark with the rebirth.

[@bl1754]

damn butler's name, domovoi, is slavic how do u mess that up

[@haydennoble9253]

Would you say Artemis Fowl’s fall is rather FOUL?

[@darylmckay]

What happened? Eoin Colfer seemed to fall out of love with his characters 😢

[@alexkoenig8643]

The series ended and was as perfect as it gets... in the books

[@NintendoHighSchool]

One of the only books I've ever seen a commercial for when I was younger they had a big marketing push

[@exitsexamined]

Really! I had no idea, where was the commercial? North America? I wish i had included that in the video!

[@NintendoHighSchool]

@@exitsexamined I think it was actually on an old VHS of something I used to own. I can’t for the life of me remember what movie it was but it was somewhere between 1999 and like 2002 or 03. I remember it because it included a lot of review quotes and at the end it briefly flashed between the code language and English

[@user-vr1zx6qr4d]

The fact that he did not end up with the elf is a crime

[@exitsexamined]

Well, one could argue if he had ended up with her because of the age difference it would also be a crime

[@user-vr1zx6qr4d]

@@exitsexamined good thing those people don't know how old arwen and Aragon are

[@exitsexamined]

touché my friend, touché

[@Chub624]

I've been reading and enjoying the books recently and think it could be a great animated series which probably won't happen sadly.

[@parishflareon]

Well, disney does have this other book series called Kingdom Keepers. Hopefully a video can be made on that series and i feel like an adaptation of the first Artemis book, percy Jackson, and maybe an in-between story for the keepers could happen kingdom hearts 4 with the new realm of unreality.

[@exitsexamined]

Wow, Kingdom Keepers looks interesting, that's a great point. i wonder if Artemis could appear in other Disney media. Would be literally insane to see him in kingdom hearts haha I honestly don't know what I'd do

[@roguephoenix]

wow i forgot there was even a movie.

[@exitsexamined]

Honestly, it might be for the best haha

[@meu3211]

I absolutely love Artemis fowl and, this might be controversial, I am glad Colfer seems to be letting it die at least mostly peacefully. Books can die two ways, peacefully at the authors choice and agonizingly with the author trying to squeeze every last cent out of the audience. It sounds like he is doing the first, which in my opinion ends much better for everyone. Side note: if he found the romance between Holly and Artemis gross too why in the world did he write it?!?

[@exitsexamined]

I totally agree, I personally think it should have let lie awhile back. I think he wrote it because fans seemed to not like minerva at the time and instead want a holly + Artemis and he caved, but that's speculation!

[@DrnMontemayor]

The only book I really don't like from the series is the last one. I cannot believe how Colfer just outright reversed character development, and flanderized its characters into one of the most awkward stories ever. At least book 7 had things going for it. 8 should've had Miranda at the very least, too. And Number 1's appearance in it pissed me off so much more than if they had just left him behind. I can live with the Artemis x Holly as a weird one-off thing in book 6, but I'd rather that had never been a plot point. I don't even dislike Opal either, but Turnball is a much more compelling villain, and after how she was reduced to her most basic aspects in book 8... I cannot express how furious I was when reading that book. Orion was for nothing as well. I know many people wanted the story to stop in the third book, but Opal Deception is actually my favorite, and where I think the series peaked. The Atlantis Complex I know is also widely disliked, but goddamn, save from a few details like the shit with orange magic, it was a very strong entry. The Orion persona might've worked better as a multibook issue to resolve, but at least I liked the exploration of that suppressed side of Artemis. Book 8 being the most offensive outlier should've made Artemis integrate him entirely. The Last Guardian could've had so many great pay-offs. I do agree with many that Artemis should've still kept making scores as the main focus of the series. From book 6 til the end, nothing like that happens anymore. I don't mind him becoming good or grey, though. It's just natural progression. It was simply mishandled.

[@tomfoolery-4444]

My series is Warrior Cats. Massive dubiously written mess my beloved

[@exitsexamined]

That is on my list to cover! Which is your favorite book?

[@edeworabraham2761]

The only thing I like about the movie is the decent CGI that showed the content in the book, made it at least better than Avatar the last Airbender

[@exitsexamined]

Oh no, was avator that bad? I was thinking about covering that later, now I'm worried haha

[@NC-dw1ir]

they race-swapped holly too, what part of coffee-colored skin did they not understand?

[@tsaageotrimm]

Warrior Cats for me. Read Artemis Fowl a bit later, excellent books.

[@exitsexamined]

My friend, Warrior cats it is written in bold on my list. I can't wait to cover it

[@VTWS]

Oh yeah my favorite young adult book series growing up was CRAZY, written by someone with this weird “Marquis de Sade” pseudonym, never released any new books but had a lot of them. A bit violent and nonchristian and used antiquated language but that’s the average YA book experience I guess

[@exitsexamined]

Wait was the book called crazy? i'm trying to find it but can't find anything - if you give the details I can write it on my list of topics to cover

[@megashutdown1019]

The disconnect between the books and the movie hit like truck, I used to listen to rappers like Bliss n Eso name drop Artemis Fowl and laugh when my mates didnt get it, then got served the most banal movie i had watched in years. Even with amazing talent on the actors, the story just would not let it hit :(

[@exitsexamined]

Wow can you link the songs that people name dropped artemis, that's amazing haha