What Everyone Gets WRONG About INTPs

[@lovewho]

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[@sad_doggo2504]

I am "ambitious..." But because my goals and desires won't make me money, it doesn't FEEL like ambition. INTP have quite a lot of passion for the things they love but it does seem like those things aren't stereotypically things society finds immediately useful/practical

[@afrosamourai400]

I definitively agree with this and i'm not even intp, for instance when people say intp are not ambitious or are unmotivated, it's true!! But in the sense that they are not usually motivated by the same basic things that other people pursue..

[@deinsilverdrac8695]

A famous quote INTP can't stande being in a leader position, but they also can't stand being a follower.

[@rhysrail]

But that’s wrong, we can happily be leaders as long as it’s the leader of a leader

[@deinsilverdrac8695]

@@rhysrail So basically the second in command, giving instruction to the one who actually will have to lead and interact with the group.

[@rhysrail]

@@deinsilverdrac8695 no as we enjoy giving speeches and stuff but we find it daunting, second in commmand would be good depending on whether we are the one’s choosing or just finding solutions and that depends whether you enjoy just suggesting or deciding, ideally I like to be able to make decisions but if it all goes bad I have lost little

[@deinsilverdrac8695]

@@rhysrail Me talk for yourself. Giving speeche terrifies me. Just finding solution is good. We're not responsible if other can't apply or follow them

[@rhysrail]

@@deinsilverdrac8695 I’m the same but I find the way it terrifies me the same sort as on a roller coaster and the problem is with just suggesting is it often gets denied which is annoying

[@lovewho]

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[@incertosage]

All good

[@openthepodbaydoorshal7806]

Sup, my dude- what are you thinking about at this exact moment?

[@yeahweburnstuff]

Happy New Year !

[@AQuestioner]

I don't hear the difference. It's good audio.

[@kgv5179]

Always thought I was a pretty good leader and it really wasnt mentioned much in any INTP descriptions so I was really glad to see this brought up. Being a leader has its perks of taking charge and getting things done in a systematic way that also feels right and gets to the truth/answer quicker and in a easier way to understand. Also lets you learn more about people and how to handle them in different situations which we are always struggling with so all in all its a great way to improve. Though the people part does get exhausting really quickly.

[@JohnSmith-fo5cx]

As an INTP in the US military...I was given a medal for my leadership... being a "good" leader is definitely possible.

[@sylviaowega3839]

Well as an INTP I can tell you how frustrated I am with our Canadian military is, and as to how little they understand about military strategy. We are far, far too defensive, and should have focussed on offensive strategies a long time ago. Nation states cannot be effective peace makers and carry diplomatic strategies if they do not have a strong offensive military.

[@leagarner3675]

@@sylviaowega3839 So you're saying Napoleon was an INTP? Because that's the topic here :)

[@DesiRush1]

Being good at it and finding it enjoyable are two different things. I think most INTP's would make good leaders but only against their will.

[@DesiRush1]

@@leagarner3675 I think Wellington was even though they say he is an ISTJ.

[@leagarner3675]

@@DesiRush1 just lol :)

[@wackyfiasco]

We can be great leaders, we'd just... rather not. (INTP female, age 54)

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

Same as everybody (the "can" part). Get out of fantasy land. "I could ... if I was somebody different." wtf

[@B03Eastwood]

@@exnihilonihilfit6316 The difference is, being a leader is not in our fantasy land. It sounds like a terrible thing to be. But... you're doing it wrong, and here's how you should be a leader...

[@MichaelHill-sg8ks]

1. If by "scatterbrained", a person means that I am outwardly disorganised, then yes I am. But internally; no. I would say that I have the most organised mind of anyone I know. As you say, everything is neatly organised into strict categories. The inside of my mind is almost like a massive set of Venn diagrams all interconnecting with each other but having very rigid definitions in themselves. I frequently find that I am able to express my thoughts in much more logical and precise ways than most people I know when given time to fully express them. 2. It's true that I hate being the leader because I hate having responsibility for people who often make stupid decisions or who ruin my plans by not listening to me. But that shows why I dislike leadership; not because I'm bad at it, but because I dislike who I'm working with. In general, when I find that I take the position of a leader with people I like and respect, I actually lead quite well. So, I would say that INTPs would make great leaders of small groups, especially ones where they're allowed to select the members. 3. Oh my word... I cannot express how much I hate this idea that INTPs don't plan or make long-term goals. I've even had people call me an INTJ just because I'm always concocting plans that stretch years into the future. The thing is, my long-term goals are not motivated by a desire for success or achievement but because I've logically rationalised that my plan is the best course of action for my life from a philosophical point of view. I actually wouldn't have been able to lay out my long-term goals so clearly without having read philosophy and combined it with my religious worldview to create a sense of purpose that went beyond transient material success.

[@zzc8505]

You sound very much like the intp I know. Totally

[@omeirai124]

As an INTJ, I fully sympathize with your point 3, and that's also how I take decisions for my life. The amusing thing is that philosophy also includes a great amount of flexibility, and accepting changes in my plans! I am so curious about how that definition of INTP's systemic, neat organization of the mind, and how it feels for you to function with such a system. When I first got interested by MBTI, I tested in between INTJ and INTP, but given we share no cognitive functions, I had to do a bit of digging to clarify the differences, and that was one of the points that struck me! INTPs are often defined as outwardly chaotic and inwardly organized, while INTJs would be outwardly organized and internally chaotic. Though I wouldn't say that my mind is disorganized, but there are definitely no systems of separation and classification, not a lot of rigid borders and set definitions between concepts. Instead everything tends to get connected as a whole and synthesized.

[@MichaelHill-sg8ks]

@@omeirai124 I do find it very intriguing how INTPs and INTJs often share a similar approach to life, despite having no functions in common. The outward organisation of INTJs has always been a thing I've admired because I know that I'd be much more productive with that ability but, I wouldn't have the mind that I do have without my own functions as they are. For me, I am always trying to define concepts in my mind by asking whether certain concepts contain properties and then linking those concepts to related concepts that contain the same property to see if there is a link. Of course, much of the process of assigning properties to concepts is subjective when done unconsciously, probably due to INTPs reliance on Si. Perhaps the best way I can describe it is by example: I once concocted a theory of identity by starting with "self" and then branching down in a tree of concepts that are contained within that self. Body/soul, mammal/spatial-temporal, and so on, working my way down to more trivial concepts that were not necessarily within the concept of self but things that I had synthesised to my concept of self, such as being an INTP, for example, or 40K fan. I can see the distinction between concepts that are essential versus accidental ones in way that is very natural to me. That process of continually connecting Si impressions with Ne often leads to some bizarre results, but in a way that always makes sense to my own sense of logic. That's why I figured out that I'm not an INTJ, because I was also a bit unsure at first, because the idea of not having a concrete grasp on the logic of my own thoughts is utterly madenning to me, personally. In other words, my primary focus is accuracy and clarity to myself. All highly indicative of dominant Ti rather than Ni.

[@33Jenesis]

I am really good at anticipating or planning ahead. My mother when she reminds me to do something, I often say to her “who do you think I am to need your reminder?”. I’d already have it done or prepped. No small detail would escape my plan.

[@33Jenesis]

@@brendaalexander734 it sound like a person who’s deaf. I wonder if she’d benefit by learning sign language. Intps always actively seeking knowledge on their own. They can learn things and figure out philosophies on their own. But Communication with people is important because it means social connections. With sign language, it may help her with that to hang out with ppl who use sign language.

[@jennifercarter1265]

I’m an INTP and with regards to being scatterbrained… I’m really not, but I do see how people think I am. I have a terrible habit of skipping steps when I’m explaining things to people, and combined with a tendency to toggle between topics and a total willingness to at least look at every rabbit trail to see if it might be interesting someday…. Yes. I know what people are talking about when they call me scatterbrained. It’s mostly because people can only see the fraction of my thoughts that I articulate. In terms of leaders… I reject the question because it implies that leadership is a single, static thing. What makes a good leader depends on a lot of factors, and it’s really about whether a specific leadership role at a moment in time is a good fit for an individual at a moment in In terms of planning… again, just because I’m not telling anyone my plans doesn’t mean I don’t have them. I often have ship-in-a-bottle type plans. People either see a pile of sticks in a bottle and wonder what I’m doing or they see me pull a string and end up with a minor miracle. Or a catastrophe. Or they only see the end result and don’t know what it took to get there.

[@AmeliaSinister]

I agree with you fully. I do see how people can see me as scatter brained, when the truth is I’m several steps ahead and haven’t articulated where we’re going. Hard agree on leadership. I have strong areas of leadership, and weak ones. It depends on what you mean by leadership at the the time, the situation, and my interest in the subject.

[@malibustacys80085]

I am INTJ and brother of an 8 year younger INTP. A Few days ago he was complaining about the group project he is in at the moment in university. He exactly knew the problems of the group and had a plan how to solve them. Also he knew the strengths and weaknesses of the persons in the group. He just didn't want to tell people what to do. I encouraged him to go into the leader role. He will try and I am sure he will suceed. Most people don't want to lead and are looking for someone who does. Also we love to play chess and most of the times he beats me. I must have been a good teacher.

[@SongsOfRelief]

Aw, good teacher. 👍

[@bingandbonga]

Lucky INTP. My life would have been much better if I had an INTJ in my life growing up. An INTJ saved my life and my soul. INTPs and INTJs… we find each other, and we make each other better. I hope you’re always in your brother’s life.

[@susanrodriquez3757]

Intjs and entjs make great teachers. They look for people to invest in and you know your brother is smart and capable. Ntjs fascinate me with the ability to know the talented people in their lives and then act on those abilities and get the very people they believe in to perform.

[@susanrodriquez3757]

@@bingandbongayeah ntjs and ntps really work great together as long as they have good communication

[@susanrodriquez3757]

Also don’t be concerned about your younger brother beating you at chess. My oldest son beat my husband at 8 years old. It’s not that your brother is smarter it’s just that they have a different skill set. You guys patch up problems quick and move on to the next whereas an intp will look towards multiple angles to solve a problem before moving on which in my opinion makes them really good at chess.😂 Ntjs are freakin brilliant. I miss my husband god rest his soul.

[@gabri_cheesellamasneeze9006]

Intps are the epitome of actions speak louder than words. They may be rough around the edges, but they are consistently the kindest people I know

[@sizeable-cult3169]

As an INTP I relate to about everything in the video. Great job

[@n.kirkevans6256]

As an INTP, I find the description of "scatterbrained" as strange. I am very disorganized physically, but in my own mind everything is very organized. My desk might appear to be a mess, but ask me to find something and my Ti-Si will find it faster than most people who appear to be "organized."

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

exactly. Ti = order ..however, there are 2 parts. Basically the things we know for sure to be true, things we wonder about and things we think are untrue. One could call the region of 'not sure' cartterbrained, but I would describe it as a work in progress. It's being processed and it's a place of creative inspiration due to Ne

[@aoeuable]

Note the suspicious absence of "They run into lampposts". Takes another kind of Ti-Dom to simultaneously walk to the supermarket, run a systems theoretical analysis on the very nature of the universe, and not do that.

[@caity2460]

#3 hit the nail on the head! I received a special acceptance to a graduate school program (without having to apply), but I turned it down to go abroad to teach. My reasoning was that I didn’t have the right mindset yet for graduate school, so I wouldn’t be able to utilize it well. I thought about what skills I wanted to have before I started working in my profession, and decided my next three years based on how to cultivate those skills/mindsets. Now, I’m returning to graduate school much more equipped!

[@MassimoENTP]

Even if I am not an INTP (I am an ENTP) I invested in my mind long term, by subscribing to your channel

[@Ichthyodactyl]

I'll be a leader when one is needed and I think I can do it well enough but I don't like it. I would much rather help someone else lead than do it myself.

[@LL-muddy1]

My bestie is an INTP & I think he'd be an excellent leader...though highly dependent on the group. He's phenomenal in finding others strength, bolstering confidence & resource allocation. However, he's never going to tell others what to do simply out of respect for their intellectual freedom. So if a group wants an authoritarian/ dictatorial type leader, then he'd probably rather go hide under a rock lol

[@opiuchi864]

exactly this, thank you!

[@janelpopp]

If you view leadership as sitting behind a desk and bossing people around all day playing babysitter, then yes, I hate the idea of leadership roles. However, I’ve found that when quick impromptu action is needed for something, and everyone else falters not knowing what to do, this is where I excel. I can very quickly analyze a situation and know what needs to be done fast to solve whatever problem sprung up, big or small. I might not always come up with the best solution, but I’ll come up with something on the spot and take action. People can then follow my lead and build off of it after understanding what needs to be done, or what I’m trying to accomplish. That, I think, is where an INTP will shine in leadership roles. They take action when nobody else knows what to do, and can very quickly put together solutions to sudden problems. I do feel like sitting behind a desk would inhibit my ability to do this effectively, however.

[@TailedThief]

Your MBTI channel is literally my favourite. Love how you structure your explanations, the points you make and how you see the depth of the topic you speak about

[@jtwattsmusic]

As an INTP, I've noticed that I often became the leader in group projects.

[@afrosamourai400]

Is it because you are a good leader or just because you are the smartest?

[@jtwattsmusic]

@@afrosamourai400 I think it's because I'm the most willing to think.

[@leagarner3675]

Yes, as an INTP, I am very long-term goal savvy. I can anticipate and prep for a change, or goal, or event, many years before getting there. It's a real strength.

[@Aprillfools]

Another thing I think they might get wrong at times is how nerdy they are...yes nerdy...a bit... socially awkward yep...but it's only because the distance between your brain and your mouth confuses things. I always know what I mean to say...I just can't seem to word it right...or possibly people just don't try to understand...being all not stuck in their head all the time with millions of thoughts trying to come together at once...it's hard to put the scatterdness into words... (this comment for example (lol))

[@SongsOfRelief]

I feel that. Being strong intuitors, I think a lot of us think in abstract and in shorthand. Most of my thoughts are pictures or impressions or memes or principles; they don't naturally occur in words. It's a kind of shorthand. Then when you need to communicate your thoughts to another, it's like translating into a second language. "Let's see, what are the words that succinctly convey this...?" It's super hard.

[@Nehpets1701G]

INTPs, you are awesome, and the world is a more prosperous place with your presence.

[@spacebarbarian._]

Damn man thanks fr

[@dbv7887]

Yes, we are.

[@vazzaroth]

#3 is my personal favorite and wish more people would understand the value of protecting your peace/sanity in this way. Life isn't about setting goals. That's a shadow-view of what it's actually about. In reality it's about achieving a personally meaningful life and if you're careful to curate the environment of your life to ONLY offer meaningful options, then you can't lose!

[@Dionyzos]

I think I'm good at seeing what needs to be done in order to steer an organization into a better direction. I see things that need to be fixed and changed and those changes are often rather radical. But I keep those thoughts to myself and brood on them instead of taking action.

[@ktkc1o7]

I hate leadership roles, but I always gravitate towards them. Being an advisor is much preferred for sure.

[@33Jenesis]

I don’t want to lead because leading is dealing with ppl, the most exhausting aspect. Never thought of my brain being scattered but churning, always. I need to do something that demand brain pause or concentration in one aspect to give it a rest. I used to think about who was i and why was i born, seeking purpose and direction. Around early middle age I simplified my life by using the least amount of energy to get the most comfort and peace. It meant that I’d save aggressively to retire early. I did just that and retired 18 months ago. Now i have all the time to let brain churn or do whatever I want.

[@leagarner3675]

I get you.

[@achessjourney402]

Interesting. I've wondered if being an INTP is just having ADHD or if ADHD is often confused for an INTP (because MBTI is really not used by pstchiatrists or most psychologists) or if ADHD is not a condition and just a different way of thinking. Thoughts?

[@Dummy257]

ADHD is high Ne

[@heatherbryant4197]

Interesting theory, and one I've actually heard before (sorry you're not the first person to have this idea). However, I think not. I know obvious INTPs who do not have AD(H)D, and, importantly, have seen many other personality types with AD(H)D. There may be a correlation with Ne though. Possibly also Se. Extroverted perception functions, basically. But remember, even if there is a strong positive correlation between traits, that doesn't necessarily mean they are describing the same thing.

[@elenawhite88]

INTP’s get pinned with autism, mostly. And I think it would be fair to say there is a degree of ADHD in INTPS because of our squirrelly Ne, but we are pretty good at containing ourselves… in public, anyway. Like the above comment, personalities who have Se and Ne as their first function would more accurately be defined by “ADHD”. My 7-year-old son is an ENTP and he checks every box for ADHD and things like “auditory processing disorder”. (I hate these umbrella terms, because they insinuate there is something wrong with us.) But SJ’s need a way to figure us out, so 😂 … my ISTJ husband refuses to accept personality psychology has any merit. I’m trying to get him to understand our son without these awful medical labels, but… I guess those labels help those who don’t have time to learn a whole psychology system to understand why someone is different than them. 🥲 “neurodivergent” and the like.

[@afrosamourai400]

I think entp, enfp, fit more the adhd diagnosis than intp by far..

[@Imiliri]

I'm an INTP who was diagnosed with ADD and PDD-NOS (I believe there's different terminology for those now, but whatever) and I don't think that me being an INTP has been influenced by my ADD. Sure, sometimes my thoughts just bounce around in my head, but that's why I have a methylphenidate prescription. Also, my sister is an INFP and has ADHD, my ISTP mother has ADD and my ISTJ father more likely than not also has something like ADD, but won't get himself diagnosed. This all may be anecdotal, but yeah, I think ADHD and things on the autism spectrum don't necessarily correlate with specific MBTI types😊

[@MM-gk1tm]

I have a new boss at work who is an INTP and in his quiet, slightly awkward way he is a great leader, very positive and decisive. Everyone loves him.

[@LisiuniaGacha]

When you get yourself wrong 💀

[@MissEliseIsTired]

I agree, I think. I am very scatterbrained, because I keep thinking of a new thing every time I look around or talk to someone, and forget what I was doing/thinking. I hate leading because it is too much responsibility and I hate telling people what to do. When I have to lead, I do tell people what to do because if I have to do something, it has to be done well so I don't feel like I failed. As for long term goal, I know where I want to live and that I want to travel as my end goal. I have no idea exactly how I will get to that point, I just keep doing what I can and try not to worry about things I have no control over.

[@jenpotatz6194]

I'm kinda scatterbrain. But it's bc I have already thought everything thru sometime before things could ever happen. So although I might not be able to give you details on why or how I do stuffs right away, I can give you the answer that I have long came up with before.

[@ashleys637]

I'm an ENTJ woman married to an INTP man. My husband is a great leader NOW, but there was a learning curve for him. My INTP is in management at work and his biggest obstacle early on was not understanding that one can explain to others why it makes sense to do something until they're blue in the face, but that doesn't mean those people are always going to act in a sensible way. There were a lot of exasperated, "Why don't they just..." from him and I would always say, "because sometimes you have to make them". Once he got over that, he did amazingly.

[@mytypeofmind]

INTPs: create autonomous system so they can be left to chaos alone

[@-SmAsH-]

How do you know so much? Your knowledge is amazing and every word you say I always relate. 🙌🙌

[@diveflyfish]

Spot On. Happy New Year! Cheers

[@stingwizard4766]

Very accurate

[@rafaellastracom6411]

As an INTP Sigma Empath I can tell you that we make the best leaders.

[@djebarazidan103]

nice

[@zzc8505]

Another one on point. Do you think you could go over the dynamics/interaction INTP-ISTJ and INTP-ESFP? And the differences between INFJ and ISFJ? And INTP and ISFJ? TY!

[@mileniastepien4021]

hits home hard

[@mauritsbol4806]

As ENTP, intp may consider themselves scatterbrained, an ENTP’s consider themselves organized. However, dig a little, and you’ll see who is the true scatter brain.

[@Bejewelle88]

Happy New Year!!

[@exilosolitudino]

I asked Chat GBT this question about my INTP'ness: can you provide for insights regarding the following: in the context of MBTI test, during time frame when I smoke marijuana I test as an INTP, and when I do not smoke I test as an INTJ. During periods when I do not smoke, I tend to get very organized, fit & healthy etc... GBT's answer: It's interesting to note the correlation you've observed between your MBTI test results and your marijuana usage. While MBTI is a popular personality assessment tool, it's important to understand that it's not without its criticisms, including questions about its reliability and validity. That said, your experience could be influenced by how marijuana affects your cognitive processes and behaviors. Marijuana can have varying effects on different individuals, but for some, it might lead to increased introspection, creativity, and a preference for exploration of ideas and possibilities-traits often associated with the INTP personality type. This could explain why you tend to test as an INTP when using marijuana. Conversely, when you're not using marijuana, you might experience greater clarity of thought, focus, and a desire for organization and structure-characteristics often associated with the INTJ personality type. It's possible that without the influence of marijuana, you feel more inclined to channel your energy into productive activities like organizing, fitness, and maintaining overall health. It's worth mentioning that personality is complex and multifaceted, influenced by various factors beyond just substance use. While your experience highlights an interesting observation, it's essential to recognize that MBTI results can be influenced by various factors, including mood, environment, and personal experiences. Additionally, relying solely on a personality test to understand oneself may not capture the full complexity of individual differences. Exploring your behaviors, thoughts, and preferences outside the framework of a personality test can provide a more comprehensive understanding of yourself.

[@rhysrail]

I would say it depends on the leader of what, INTPs make good leader if they are the highest leader as we can react to issues very well as we make creative solutions but we can’t stand purely reacting to issues with a normal response, we would happily be prime minister and we often make a plan of what we would do if we were in power every time we read something political

[@redhead_in_florida]

I hope this becomes a series for all the types

[@EthanKristopherHartley]

I've worked in leadership roles in the past and found that the best ones I've enjoyed the most were the teams and departments I used to work in. Especially those where I'd previously changed the processes. 😉

[@159mand]

Very much agree with #3

[@Chilldays-vz1vq]

In the immortal words of me to my mom when she asks how i find anything in my room "it may be incomprehensible but im able to do it"

[@Mistocloud]

Im the lwader of my group of friends.

[@fede170493]

INTPs, watching this to see what they get about themselves:

[@dabssssallday3111]

This intp could destroy u in chess because he knows how to look at the whole chess board

[@MichaelDenmark]

Gravitating toward an advisor role is spot on!

[@filippomonaco2303]

For the third about long term ambitions... I'm an INTP and have always had very clear ambitions since I was a child, I decided which university i wanted to attend when I was in middle school (8 years before the first year of uni) and what I would do after when I was 15 or so (I basically decided my carreer 12 years before I could actually start it). Also I think that if you ask anyone that knows me if I'm unambitious, no one would say I am, maybe they would say I'm too ambitious. As for the leader roles... I generally disliked being a leader in school projects and never was the leader of my friends group, but I liked being a leader (and I got good results as one) in the math olimpics games team.

[@denisesiddon7241]

Are intps aware they are so cute without trying to be?

[@michaelcorreia1377]

I never noticed that you had an Indian accent lol

[@stefanzawalony1960]

Very nice

[@johnknight9150]

Are ENTPs usually considered scatter-brained?

[@periwinkle3448]

No. - INTP with an ENTP adult child and ENTP friends.

[@jimclayson]

In my experience, ENTPs are usually very purpose-driven and not particularly scatter-brained... but that purpose is often to act as agents of chaos to throw everyone else off-balance, just to sit back and watch people react to the confusion. ENFPs, on the other hand... -- INTP

[@afrosamourai400]

Hell yeah they are the definition of scatter brained lol

[@sylviaowega3839]

Unlike what most people think the INTP is the only MBTI type that will rival the INTJ in strategic thinking, whether it’s military, or business marketing. The only real difference is that we don’t plan as often as the NJ’s. In addition, I as an INTP can tell you how frustrated with our Canadian military, and as to how we have fallen behind among the other NATO allies, like the UK and Australia.

[@leagarner3675]

Ok, maybe you're New Years resolution was more imperialism in your life? haha

[@Hari-kx2er]

If you don't plan, then the capability for strategy exists only in your mind or imagination. Strategy is a matter of real world consequences and for that not just mere capability but also actual deliberation and execution is needed. Your statement is equivalent to an overweight fellow saying they can easily be as fit as their athletic neighbour. They just need to get their cardio and weight training regimen in place. That is exactly the catch in this situation. They have to get out their and do the work to prove their point or else it is just empty words however theoretically correct the words may be

[@syuriychuk3782]

@@leagarner3675 It's not about imperalism. Army is important. Me as ukrainan INTP warned people long time ago that we should make our army stronger while having russia as neighbor but majority haven't seen this as priority and russia as potential enemy. Now you can see what happened.

[@leagarner3675]

@@syuriychuk3782 You missed my point entirely. The topic is about INTPs and not about politics per se. We don't have to polarize every conversation. We need to be inclusive.

[@sylviaowega3839]

@@leagarner3675​​⁠What’s that got to do with strategic thinking?

[@hushup-qr9ky]

more like scatter physical reality I can't keep track of the stuff in my hands my thoughts are always under control I can't keep track of physical things and have all these thoughts at the same time and all my new ideas trump my need to focus on the road as I drive 60 mph .. sorry I wercked .. single parents child care should be ran by the opposite gender of whatever the parent is absent . In the big picture hmm .. wonder who's falt this wreck is I don't even know what happend.. who has the right to say who's falt it is you never know there could have been spiders and someone with arachnophobia can't control this. We should focus on why it happened not blaming people .. that's how my brain works

[@jimclayson]

Regarding being "scattered"... I mean, yes and no. There are areas of my life where any sane SJ would consider me to be "scattered" (at best), but I was formerly married to an ENFP... so I think I'd rate myself as middle-of-the-road. Regarding being "great leaders"... I don't like being in a leadership role, although I've done it before... but I'm far more comfortable in an adviser/support role. I'll step up if no one else semi-capable steps up first. Regarding "long-term ambitions"... No, I really don't have any long-term ambitions anymore. What ambitions I once had have long since died and painful death. I'm content to live as a hermit, earning barely-above minimum wage, just so long as I don't have to compromise what peace-of-mind I've managed to find over the last half-century. -- INTP

[@sarahstudies8149]

I am a lab supervisor. We only have 4 technicians so it's really manageable. A bad leader to me would be an insecure ESTJ (or anyone really but this is who I have experience with) who takes their insecurities and bad moods out on others, shouts at people when they are doing something wrong and doesn't give any consideration to other peoples ideas. Instead they just expect you to go along with 'because I said so.'

[@werox2045]

Yess, I was thinking (by my own) of the latter 2 points: People tell me I rather am an Antisocial ENTP, but I feel I can be a leader and is quite enjoyable when you have "reliable workforce" (who can do things the way you do) and you are in charge of the problem solving, logic and presenting why your solution is the best; for long-term goals it's much better to have ambition for knowledge and philosophy, instead of knowing what you're gonna study and work as, I prefer searching what i'm gonna study FIRST and how I'm going to maintain a life of wisdom. Sure I can have some goals like being a Software Engineer or work in TI but along with updating my area knowledge, I should explore other areas like philosophy, medicine, etymology, languages, ForEx et cetera.

[@-JA-]

🙂👏

[@Wizard_Pepsi]

As an INTP I agree with most of these points but do argue that there are exceptions to the rule.

[@Cateret]

Good stuff, it makes me think😊. I like it🤔.

[@leagarner3675]

Happy New Year! Are INTPs first in 2024? Yes, in leadership, and it's not that I can't verbalize my reasoning1:10, I just have to work very hard to explain in a diplomatic way.

[@noemiac]

"in a diplomatic way" 😂😂 I've been working on expressing criticism (or just a different opinion) in a diplomatic way for a couple years, so this hits 😂

[@zainzargar11]

2:22 story of my life as an intp

[@Hari-kx2er]

Your third point is a bit problematic as it is a bit too fairly tale like. Life doesn't go smoothly merely because you honed your talents or thought processes. It is a cliched advice which asks people to find your passion, make it your profession and then your life will be set. The approach of refining your logical thinking abd hoping it will organically give your life purpose and meaning is similar to that cliched advice. It is not just your finely tuned thought process or talents that matter but also how they stack upto those around you and how you use them. Two individuals may be equally talented software engineers, however one may end up in the labour force and the other may start a million dollar corporation. The difference is in INTENT. To put it differently, what use is a race car if the driver who owns it only drives slow?

[@leagarner3675]

I got a chuckle because INTPs are notoriously slow drivers.

[@ashreetis625]

Intp here- quick question: what mbti is captain jack sparrow?

[@afrosamourai400]

Entp