What Gazans Really Think of Hamas and How It Shaped the Crisis with Israel

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William Spaniel

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How popular is Hamas among Gazans? By pure coincidence, a major survey was conducted right before the attack, and it provides critical insights into the deeper political situation within the Strip. The outlook was not good: trust in Hamas was fleeting, and Gazans blamed Hamas for some of the basic problems they faced. If there was a silver lining for Hamas, it was that Gazans were not particularly enthusiastic about the political alternatives. Still, it raises questions of whether Hamas had a domestic political motivation to start a crisis with Israel.
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0:00 Popularity and Political Power
1:31 Hamas' Political History
5:00 What Gazans Think of Hamas
9:53 Caveats with the Study
11:36 Hamas' Motivation for October 7
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@dBO123
@dBO123 7 ай бұрын
Hamas didn't just "expell" Fatah from Gaza. They massacred them. Killed 115~ and injured thousand+ In a very horrible way, akin to Hamas.
@daydream2818
@daydream2818 7 ай бұрын
They be fighting each other in lebanon here and there inside Palestinian refugee camps also causing the Palestinians to leave there frkn camps and just go live on the streets!! But tbh fateh did stab the Palestinians in the back and sold the whole Palestinian cause for money and VIP and extra VIP treatments from Israel ! While hamas still a young blood with alot more ambition ! Fatah did so Much damage to israel for a long long time since the 70th but they just didn’t care anymore! Almost every hamas member is orphaned by israel there for u know what his life goal is ! And all these ruthless bombing on gaza lately been causing more and more anger and orphans! And the circle goes On and on ! Israel keeps giving promises about giving the Palestinians there own land and country since oslo agreement and they never for fill there promises thinking theyre smart and it has caused nothing but blood and suffer for both sides ! Usa should make israel for fill there promises on giving the Palestinians there own land and government so they can actually live in peace ! But the intentions are bad really bad ! Just imagine if u live in ur city but u cant leave it in anyway or another , no clean water or food ! No jobs no future nothing ! U cant even go fishing without getting shot ! And u get bombed prisoned or neglected everyday ! Thats what gaza is !
@stavlevanon1578
@stavlevanon1578 7 ай бұрын
lol the entire leadership of Hamas lives in Qatar. all of the Palestinian leadership is corrupted and is using Palestinians to get rich.@@daydream2818
@dBO123
@dBO123 7 ай бұрын
@@daydream2818 A. Israel wasn't the one who didn't agree or stopped the Oslo Accords. Arafat never wanted that. He agreed to that only because he was in a bad spot after supporting the war against US (I forgot which one) And the rising popularity of other Palestinian groups (Hamas as well) - he wanted to stay in power. He was a sneaky bastard. The first visit in Gaza he smuggled 4 'mega' terrorists (Doesn't have a proper translation from hebrew). He ofcourse lied when confronted by Rabin, which Rabin knew he lied. Rabin demanded that they will be in Egypt immediately or the Oslo Accords will be terminated - and suddenly those terrorists appeared. This was only the beginning. While the Oslo Accords were being continued forwards terror still was very much present and with the support of Arafat. Rabin said "we need to continue with the Oslo accords like there's no terror. And continue to fight terror like there's no Oslo Accords." Ultimately it was never Arafat's intentions on keeping his side of the deal. B. Israel isn't inside Gaza. They aren't shooting fisherman in their waters. We aren't there to arrest people. We don't bomb everyday, you can see headlines each time we do. It's every time they shoot rockets. No job and no infrastructure isn't Israel's fault - but Hamas'. They are the leaders there. We have no power on the day to day of the average Gazan. Watch the video about who the Gazans blame for this type of stuff. C. Fatah aren't the best. I agree. But they aren't Hamas. I served 3 years in COGAT and met with members of Fatah daily. D. In order for Palestinians to have a state, or better life they need to lay down their weapons and stop wanting to kill us. Accept the existence of Israel, and move towards a better future. Here's a fact for you: Christian Palestinians have a permit to enter Israel for most of the year. They can get permits easier too. Why? Not because of Islamophobia. Because NO CHRISTIAN PALESTINIAN HAS EVER COMMITED A TERROR ATTACK AGAINST ISRAEL. I wrote in all caps to show you what needs to be done in order to live a better life and move towards 2SS.
@oleggold
@oleggold 7 ай бұрын
@@daydream2818 Israel goving promises to give them land? Wtf?! Israel suggested many times agreements. Which the Palestinian divided "leadership " always dismissed. As they believe they deserve more or will get more by war. No one promised them anything. They've missed chance after chance to come to an agreement with Israel. They weren't fooled. Why do you make them sound naive? The Palestinian leadership are idiots, but not gullible fools and naive people. Ruthless bombing? Merciful bombing. 12,000 strikes with only 9,000 casualties (so says Hamas), and how many of those Hamas members? And that is instead of a real ruthless bombing which with this amount of strikes, could've killed half a million gazans at least (do the math). "Causing more and more anger"? Of course. Blame Islamic extremist on Israel. Not the Hamas charter, or their brainwashing educational system and summer camps or their jihadi ideology. No no no. It's Israel's fault. Maybe they should be less of a terrorist organization controlling Gaza. More people will have parents. Instead they go into Israel and slaughter 1400 civilians and kidnapped 240 people. They knew what will happen after this. But, Hamas doesn't care for the people they suppose to govern.
@oleggold
@oleggold 7 ай бұрын
@@daydream2818 and your whole idea of land to Palestinians is distorted, unrealistic, disconnected from reality and history. "So they can actually live in peace". Right. No self responsibility. Who wants to live in peace, lives in peace. Excuses. So many jihadi enablers. Keep excusing Islamic extremist.
@RaphiAB
@RaphiAB 7 ай бұрын
3:59 “when hamas expelled fatah from the strip” they butchered them or threw them from top of buildings
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 7 ай бұрын
That is rubb8ish mate many fatah joined hamas operation I saw the video The on who were removed is abbas puppets of zionist
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 3 ай бұрын
I mean their souls are no longer on the Strip
@VxV631
@VxV631 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely blown away at how thorough and easy to follow this was. Data driven to the utmost and I am so impressed. Great job!!!
@Thenoobestgirl
@Thenoobestgirl 6 ай бұрын
Same. I suck at math and statistics and I managed to follow along 😂
@countbooga6997
@countbooga6997 6 ай бұрын
The data came from a university in a state with a large and over-represented politically and institutionally Muslim community with strong ties to the muslim brotherhood, hamas, ND iran. I would take the study with a large pinch of salt, uts the same state where Rashida talib is from, and where they have been having massive pro palestinian protests with al qaeda, taliban, hamas, hezbollah, ND multiple other terrorist orginizations flag. Dearborn Michigan is a hub for hate crimes and terrorist orginizations pretending to be humanitarians. Not to be trusted whatsoever.
@Nitidus
@Nitidus 6 ай бұрын
​@@countbooga6997Thank you. This video is terrible. If that's the level of critical reception exercised on sources in a complex situation like this, it actually disqualifies the channel completely for me. You don't even need to research the institute to become suspicious - the article itself is incredibly biased and they literally write that they are their own source. Where I live, you learn recognizing propaganda like this in middle school! I'm actually disappointed by someone using a political science degree as an argumentum ab autoritas!!
@kimobrien.
@kimobrien. 6 ай бұрын
@@Nitidus That's because so called American political science is just about numerical data in surveys. Since the can do some math and use computers they call themselves political scientists.
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 7 ай бұрын
This Arab Barometer survey is a golden trove of relevant information. Polling isn't perfect but this shows a credible snapshot of how Gazans were feeling the entire week before the war. This is a stroke of great luck for military & political analysts. So thankful to this organization.
@VinnieG-
@VinnieG- 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was a weird polling question. "Do you have trust in Hamas" could mean all kinds of things, right?
@Raph1er
@Raph1er 7 ай бұрын
​@@VinnieG- To Gazans it might be as straightforward as to any people a question of their trust in the leading political party of their country
@idansim1
@idansim1 7 ай бұрын
@@VinnieG- I can dig up some of the polling I've seen if you are interested but yes it's a binary regarding Hamas. In truth most Gazans seem to think Hamas isn't radical enough and that is why they don't approve
@VinnieG-
@VinnieG- 7 ай бұрын
@@Raph1er It could mean do you like or dislike them as government, it could mean do you believe they will achieve their goals, they very clearly specified in their founding documents, it could mean do you think Hamas is honest, Perhaps some lack trust cause they want peace, others lack trust cause they think Hamas isn't going hard enough, perhaps some prefer Islamic Jihad, or another sketchy organisation inside Gaza, etc "Do you want peace with Israel in a 2 state solution" Would be a much clearer question to know their appetite for war
@hydrocarbon8272
@hydrocarbon8272 7 ай бұрын
@@idansim1 please do because your statement sounds like "source: bro trust me" as it stands.
@ewal36
@ewal36 6 ай бұрын
The survey base issue makes me think about 1970s Cambodia. If you asked Cambodians what their thoughts about the Khmer Rouge, the support rate would be 100%. However, when the Vietnamese army invaded, most Cambodians were grateful and relieved.
@user-jz8po2eu2d
@user-jz8po2eu2d 6 ай бұрын
I can assure you, Palestinians are not grateful or relieved to Israel for 70 years of occupation and genocide, they might be not happy about Hamas, but they're definitely not warm towards Israel.
@d.b.2215
@d.b.2215 6 ай бұрын
They still hate Vietnam's guts though, so I have to wonder how thankful they actually are
@Engineering26
@Engineering26 6 ай бұрын
But they ditrust Hamas even before the war, so it even worst... Really need to free Gaza from Hamas
@matt.willoughby
@matt.willoughby 7 ай бұрын
Hamas seems to be more popular with Muslims in the west than among the Gazan citizens they ostensibly claim to represent.
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 7 ай бұрын
That is r7bbish really I live in iraq and these are false information like people accepting 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 and other things These all false to put agenda
@user-dl5ln3wd6f
@user-dl5ln3wd6f 7 ай бұрын
If this is true then why we don’t see any evidence of it inside Gaza itself? every family in Gaza has someone who works in the military wing of HAMMAS’(Al-Qassam).
@bigbowlowrong4694
@bigbowlowrong4694 6 ай бұрын
Also inexplicably popular with atheist leftists.
@Paulmesolikey
@Paulmesolikey 6 ай бұрын
@@bigbowlowrong4694but this is not new, atheist leftists don’t have much going on in their lives except screeching for the minorities and oppressed in the world, they don’t even dive deep on the context at all, just the oppressed = correct mentality
@manolgeorgiev9664
@manolgeorgiev9664 6 ай бұрын
​@@bigbowlowrong4694 Very few from the left are actually siding with Hamas though, most are just siding against Israel, which is to be expected.
@yl9154
@yl9154 7 ай бұрын
I have seen the result of this study in Foreign Affairs. It is clear that the people of Gaza are not satisfied by Hamas administration of Gaza and do not entirely support Hamas. But that does not allow us to infer anything about how they feel about the October 7th attacks. One could believe and wish for the two sates solution and yet support the October 7th attack as an act of "resistance" contributing to that goal down the road. It may not be logical from a non-Palestinians perspective, but the Palestinian's frame of reference and indoctrination is different. One can disagree with its government interior policies but support its war. For example, many more left inclined Israelis hate their current government but still support the counter offensive against Hamas.
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 7 ай бұрын
Yes. But when a state resorts to war as a distraction from domestic affairs, it can't be hurt more than it distracts. Due to the scale they chose & the fact that Israel has neglected the threat from Gaza, Hamas is the only one to blame for the attacks and subsequent retaliation from the IDF. Hamas shot itself in the foot and now Gazan voters are suffering for it. That is a shit campaign strategy.
@raihanrusli2720
@raihanrusli2720 7 ай бұрын
​@@kingace6186"hamas is the only one to blame" pfft
@jonathanbowers8964
@jonathanbowers8964 7 ай бұрын
​@@kingace6186you don't have to worry about politics when you don't have regular elections. Hamas hasn't allowed an election since 2006. They are a defacto dictatorship.
@robertw1800
@robertw1800 7 ай бұрын
​@@kingace6186Peace was never a option for Hamas. Anybody voting for this group knew that. All you have to do is read the front page of the Hamas Charter. This would be like an American not knowing the first couple constitutional amendments. This was bound to happen, and Gazans have no one to blame but themselves.
@CaspianNomad
@CaspianNomad 7 ай бұрын
​@@robertw1800Did you not hear the part of the video where he said that a majority of Gazan's today have no memory of the election?
@d2vid
@d2vid 7 ай бұрын
Gaza's share of Palestinian GDP dropping is even worse when considering Gaza's population has about doubled in those 17 years whereas the West Bank only grew about 50%. Yikes!
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 7 ай бұрын
Welp, that population difference is getting whittled down. Over-reaction incitement medal achieved.
@shooster5884
@shooster5884 7 ай бұрын
Does that include or exclude the 750,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank ?
@Moses_VII
@Moses_VII 7 ай бұрын
​@@shooster5884They are much richer than West Bank people, very skewed
@thereita1052
@thereita1052 7 ай бұрын
​@@shooster5884I don't think It does. Especially those who live in the C areas whic Is most of them.
@dennislevy3603
@dennislevy3603 7 ай бұрын
Hamas lies massively about the population because they get more UN funding when they have more people, and the aid money is looted. Nobody knows what the actual figures are, but it is a safe assumption that they are substantially less than the official figures.
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 7 ай бұрын
Remember Fatah is just the PLO rebranded. It isn’t like they have opposed the violence.
@jonathanbowers8964
@jonathanbowers8964 7 ай бұрын
Parties can mellow out over time. Look at Sinn Fein in Ireland and how they have dramatically changed since the 1980s and 1990s.
@matthewhuszarik4173
@matthewhuszarik4173 7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanbowers8964 Yes they can if they choose to. Killing 1400 people and firing thousands of rockets into Israel doesn’t look like they are. They are still worse than Sinn Fein ever was. Sinn Fein kept most of their targets to the military, police, and politicians. Not innocent children and old people. When the Palestinians turn on their terrorists groups like the Irish did, then maybe they will have a future. Until then they will remain pariahs giving aid and comfort to terrorists. Not one Palestinian saw fit to warn Israel. What does that say about all the Palestinians in Gaza? Remember none of the North African or Middle Eastern states want any of them either. They were thrown of Kuwait for supporting Iraq’s invasion. They were thrown out of Jordan for killing the police, militarily, and civilians. They were thrown out of Egypt for destabilizing the government.
@dennislevy3603
@dennislevy3603 7 ай бұрын
@@jonathanbowers8964 Has ISIS mellowed out? Note that the error made by Israel's intelligence was to think that Hamas had mellowed out. In fact, the reverse was true.
@cheekygrin6258
@cheekygrin6258 6 ай бұрын
@@jonathanbowers8964not in this case
@arpandey698
@arpandey698 6 ай бұрын
So was the Irish reistance aginst the English. Those same parties that did terrorism are now running a first world state richer than the UK. Not saying they are the same just saying parties can mellow out.
@gruniach9681
@gruniach9681 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. You explain complex things very simply and clearly
@niburu1508
@niburu1508 7 ай бұрын
Complex? Are you 7 yrs old?
@rogink
@rogink 7 ай бұрын
@@niburu1508 Yes, because of course Middle East politics is as easy to understand as 2+2, isn't it Dr Kissinger?
@niburu1508
@niburu1508 7 ай бұрын
@@rogink slaughter is really not too difficult for you to understand surely. Who are Gazans? I have read the Balfour Declaration, watched How Israel was created videos ( from the days BEFORE tampering) and paid attention to international affairs since study days. You are any of your fellows who ring the subject COMPLEX should maybe TRY to get some basic education before Talking?
@rogink
@rogink 7 ай бұрын
@@niburu1508 Well done you! But if you were really following ME politics you'd be well aware of the claims and counter-claims from either side. You'd have to be totally biased to say one side is right and the other wrong.
@storage4539
@storage4539 7 ай бұрын
I've been searching for polls on Palestinians opinions as well. I found a poll by the Washington Institute titled " Palestinian Majority Rejects Two-State Solution, But Backs Tactical Compromises." I don't know how to explain the discrepancy between 73% of Gazans, mentioned in the video, supported peace with Israel; meanwhile, the majority of them rejected the 2-state solution but preferred the entire Palestinian for themselves in the Washington Institute's poll. Granted the last data set was from 2020, but the survey started from 2017 to 2020 which still shows the trend.
@maxinator80ify
@maxinator80ify 7 ай бұрын
That's the thing with polls and comparing them. Slight variations in phrasing the questions can dramatically change the outcome.
@Albukhshi
@Albukhshi 7 ай бұрын
What it means simply is that they've grown tired of trying to get a two-state solution as it currently exists, and on some level just want peace. What that entails is another story, but the TL;DR version is that people are desperate. They may not like Hamas, but what are the alternatives? Where are they? Who can seize them? Which then brings us to the other reply here: phrasing matters indeed. And I suspect the outcome would change indeed. We'd find out just how desperate people in Gaza have become.
@heyitsally7995
@heyitsally7995 7 ай бұрын
I mean I’ve seen a poll that showed 75% of Gazans supported Hamas in 2021, and I believe 53% of all Palestinians supported them. I doubt that a massive change like that could have occurred in 2 years, so there are definitely issues with polling on at least one group’s part
@bjkkkoo
@bjkkkoo 7 ай бұрын
Why do we value a think tank sponsored by one of the parts in the conflict as being a source? I keep seeing think tank financed by Qatar or Israel as source on the matter, why should we compare them to a neutral third party? Against two of the most reputable and rich universities, not "in the game", and with strong anti bias research methodology dating to 100 and more years, with a paper you can check yourself to see the methodology and addressed biases
@V1489Cygni
@V1489Cygni 7 ай бұрын
@@Albukhshi *PaIestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research* Public Opinion Poll No (89), 13 September 2023 PCPSR.o rg/ en /node/955 "58% of interviewed PaIestinlans would vote for Hamas leader lsmaiI Haniyeh as opposed to 37% for PaIestlnian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. 53% of the Palestinian public supports "armed confrontations and intifada" against lsraeI. Support for armed struggle is much higher than support for negotiations as the most effective means of ending the Israeli occupation at 20%"
@yakov95000
@yakov95000 7 ай бұрын
The big hole in this study is that they didn't ask about other organizations...Both The Fatah and Hamas(before October 7th)were seen as "institutional" and "in bed" with Israel,Hamas had years of sitting quite(even when groups like Palestinian Islamic Jihad had wars with Israel)and they got great easing of restrictions(including on taboo subjects like workers and dual materials),that is what made them less popular(well before the attack),the fact is that in Palestinian society the most popular thing is for the people who are the most extreme Palestinian Islamic Jihad had +70% positive, same similar with the Lion den from West Bank.
@Muenni
@Muenni 7 ай бұрын
I agree on the first part, but where did you pull that number from?
@yakov95000
@yakov95000 7 ай бұрын
@@Muenni Sorry I don't remember,but it was poll on Palestinians opnions on different groups from 2022.
@AG45.
@AG45. 7 ай бұрын
even if thats true, imagine what palestinians have been going through the absolute ethnic cleansing and oppression and the blackade now would break anyone, ofcourse they would absolutely hate israel
@jehovahgaming7859
@jehovahgaming7859 7 ай бұрын
yeah totally, "they got", like it was hamas who achieved easing restrictions, and not Israel's mercy for gazans, if hamas wouldn't exist there would be no restrictions in the first place
@Eleolius
@Eleolius 7 ай бұрын
This!
@oooDrejer
@oooDrejer 7 ай бұрын
By far the best piece on the current situation I've come across yet. You really do a good job at providing a neutral point of view, presenting statistics rather than opinions. Subscriber +1 👍
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 7 ай бұрын
Yes favorite place to hear a no-nuance biased idf centric with a thin veneer of neutrality POV
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 7 ай бұрын
Yes statistics and numbers are big brain stuff. Just don’task where the numbers come from or policies of institutions producing them
@orpaz1991
@orpaz1991 7 ай бұрын
Actually a lot of missing information. Things like hamas killing their oponents so they don't have election anymore, shooting missiles at israel right after they got elected, and before the blockaid, and I've only watched 5 min...
@kleinenfuchse5365
@kleinenfuchse5365 7 ай бұрын
​@@rhetoric5173 how often do you shave your babylons a year? 😭
@nourahmed-sh2ox
@nourahmed-sh2ox 7 ай бұрын
​@@rhetoric5173Arab barometer
@zacharydavis4398
@zacharydavis4398 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the time to create and share this content 🙏🏾
@HeartFelt520
@HeartFelt520 7 ай бұрын
Its not very relevant view at all though Hamas is not a typical political movement Joining Hamas means: the whole world consider you a terrorist, Israel will assasinate/torture you and your family if they find out that you are, you dont have a normal life or safety anymore, you are likely to die very soon during resistance with very basic guns against an occupation funded heavily for 75 years by one of the richest countries in the world, you have to nagivate and live mostly in basic simple tunnels underground.. And even though all that, tens of thousands of capable men has and are taking that path. That is a resistance group, with a cause beyond cliché public questioning, that people are betting their lives for, with everything to lose, and only resistance of the occupant to gain.
@ronsweeney5898
@ronsweeney5898 7 ай бұрын
As usual an excellent presentation. Amongst all the politics, I believe there are enough sane, logical people to find an answer. Both sides have their point of view which isn’t too far separated. I spent some time in Nazareth in a factory run by a Jew who employed hundreds of Palestinians . It was an harmonious and pleasant environment. It was obvious that the owner valued and cared for his staff. I came to this conclusion through observation, not what I was told.😮
@kingace6186
@kingace6186 7 ай бұрын
While that is great, it is anecdotal. Try visiting all over. From the communities on either side of the Gaza blockade to the encroaching illegal Jewish settlement on the West Bank. From the southern desert lands to the northern heights. From the rich, metropolitan of Tel Aviv to the humble, divided Jerusalem. But yes, in general, the Israeli people are much more "liberal" than Netanyahu's far-right government. There is a divide between what the citizens of Israel want and what the government wants.
@NotTheEx
@NotTheEx 7 ай бұрын
Taqqyia works both ways, of course.
@mrsaul3709
@mrsaul3709 7 ай бұрын
@@kingace6186 Nethanyahu's government is out of touch and doesn't satisfy anyone other than their blind supporters who will forever support them. Many liberals are concerned about the proposed judicial reform, many right wingers are concerned about his weak security policy, and there are many more examples.
@mightybagrutlord
@mightybagrutlord 7 ай бұрын
I was one of those "they had a rough childhood, lets try finding a common ground" kind of israelies. until 7.10. The sheer sadism of that attack and the way it was executed made me realize I was a fool. If thousands of "soldiers" & civilians turn to rape, kidnapping and murder the second the wall goes down - they are not to be reasoned with. They are people to stay away from at all costs. Appaertly we fooled ourselves into thinking reason was even a part of it all.
@TheDude1980
@TheDude1980 7 ай бұрын
I thought for awhile his ideology was too mainstream, but after watching more and more video’s, I’ve come to believe he’s one of the most insightful channel’s around. He sounds very professional too, which is always an added bonus.
@user-bc7dz7ei4x
@user-bc7dz7ei4x 7 ай бұрын
It’s hard to actually know what Gazens truly feel. I’ve seen videos of people holding joint citizenship in Gaza and US. When they are in US they say two state solutions are good. When they are in Gaza they want the Jews and Israel gone. Could be in Gaza they are afraid to go against the Hamas rhetoric or it could also be that they are trying to be politically correct when they are in the US.
@meatrealwishes
@meatrealwishes 7 ай бұрын
Hamas is violent towards them.
@int0x2e
@int0x2e 7 ай бұрын
As a democracy, Israelis are responsible for what their government does, even if they voted against it. The same is true for Americans and citizens of other democracies - but it is also true for Gazans. While they don't have a democracy, they could still easily overthrow Hamas much more effectively than Israel or the west ever could. It will be bloody and painful, but it is a choice they have to make. Until they fight their own militants and terrorists, this fighting with Israel and countless deaths will continue. They have to fight for peace if they want it. It might not be fair or pleasant, but it is the only choice.
@lilowhitney8614
@lilowhitney8614 7 ай бұрын
There's a channel or two on youtube which are dedicated to asking average Israelis, Israeli arabs and Palestinians (the last two are distinct groups from each other) about all kinds of things, especially political questions about the conflict. It can be pretty helpful for gouging the opinions of the people on the street. Try looking "I asked Israelis/Palestinians what they think". That'll probably bring those videos up.
@fauzi4752
@fauzi4752 7 ай бұрын
Hamas control the population.. imagine you're not getting any food and drink if they don't allow you?
@sameinbari8092
@sameinbari8092 7 ай бұрын
​@lilowhitney8614 you are talking about the Corey guy. But thing is. People will lie in camera or when another person asks them in person. It's hard to know truly what the people think
@jasonralston8603
@jasonralston8603 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, William. I always look forward to your vids. Very informative! Keep up the good work, good sir.
@MDCDiGiPiCs
@MDCDiGiPiCs 7 ай бұрын
as always, enlightening, entertaining and far less depressing than others. Love your work William 😊
@rhetoric5173
@rhetoric5173 7 ай бұрын
Proidfpropaganza is not depressing a reason!
@allydea
@allydea 7 ай бұрын
I haven't heard anyone addressing the question, why have they taken hostages? Without them, the response from Israel would have been the same. I am wondering whether they hoped to avoid consequences by having an "Israeli/international human shield".
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766
@israelizzyyarrashamiaak766 7 ай бұрын
@@allydeathey said so ? Which is why the 600 American passport holders ( no idea how they were obtained) were not allowed to leave. They are just now leaving because as is obvious when the USA said just share the kibbutz with hamas. Netanyahu said “ we’re done here” 💥 💥 Funny we’ve not seen a single image of a hamas “soldier” in all the Palestinian death images: always innocent civilians. 🙄 Who can negotiate with hamas ? Those people should then do so. Move in with them and take it over. Israel is begging the entire world to take Gaza so someone just freakin take it . End the drama and just take it: israel has said a resounding yes to a multinational governing council to govern Palestinians. Don’t refuse to take the problem and refuse to allow israel to handle the problem. So take that land and do as the west pleases. Israel doesn’t want it! We are begging the USA to take it. Egypt won’t. Jordan won’t. So USA and UK - it’s yours now take it back - UK with the help of USA and never burden the Jewish people with that accursed land ever again/
@adayinforever
@adayinforever 7 ай бұрын
What does make it depressing tho, is they are currently suffering collective punishment for a government that they don't even support. 😔
@FUnzzies1
@FUnzzies1 7 ай бұрын
Inaccurate as ever though
@michaelhausman8360
@michaelhausman8360 7 ай бұрын
I have wondered endlessly about this question. I mean half the Palestinians living there weren't old enough to vote for them.
@jermainhall2647
@jermainhall2647 7 ай бұрын
The Zionist massacred the old generation
@cheekygrin6258
@cheekygrin6258 6 ай бұрын
But they received indoctrination based education by them.
@PURENT
@PURENT 6 ай бұрын
More than half actually. As of 2023 everyone under 35 was not of voting age during the 2006 Palestinian elections.
@oldschool31
@oldschool31 7 ай бұрын
I will share it now! Thank you and the barometers!
@Qingeaton
@Qingeaton 7 ай бұрын
I am surprised that people in Gaza would openly say they don't support hamas.
@Isow261
@Isow261 7 ай бұрын
They are used to living under pressure and threat due to the religion they follow which punishes by death certain things such as apostasy or homosexuality
@talknight2
@talknight2 6 ай бұрын
Presumably it was an anonymous survey
@JoanneLeon
@JoanneLeon 7 ай бұрын
The big elephant in the room after listening to this excellent report is -- do the people of Gaza have a voice on the public stage? There are so many charity orgs, (so called) independent journalists and activists who claim to give voice to these people. But none of them, at least none that I've heard, voice this distrust and opposition to Hamas. They voice the same grievance story over and over and over whenever they get an opportunity to speak publicly. It's not that i don't sympathize. I do. But I never hear about any initiative to make political or leadership changes or anti-corruption campaigns. Why is that?
@Habibi379
@Habibi379 7 ай бұрын
It's obvious. Beacuase even if they don't like Hamas they can't speak up in fear of what might happen to them.
@raihanrusli2720
@raihanrusli2720 7 ай бұрын
​@@Habibi379if we can hear Iranian people express dissatisfaction against the government, the the gazans can do even more if they are dissatissfied. Yes hamas or its military wing is armed, but you should have heard any pockets of resistance or protest if gazans dont like hamas
@redteam6631
@redteam6631 7 ай бұрын
​@@raihanrusli2720no they can't. You have no idea how many people were killed and prosecuted when they raised their voice against the Iranian government. Iran made sure to make examples of any frail resistance against them this way.
@raihanrusli2720
@raihanrusli2720 7 ай бұрын
@@redteam6631 dude we pretty much see the iranian people could. They can do it, of course illegally. If people are om the edge, they will turn to the street no matter what
@redteam6631
@redteam6631 7 ай бұрын
@@raihanrusli2720 yeah there used to be protests but where are they now? Nothing in the Iranian Regimen changed. This dictatorship ideology also extends to Syria, Gaza, and to a lesser extent lebanon. Do you know how many people dissappeared because they opposed the government's regimen? In Lebanon if you're from the same background as hezobollah but you're against his ideology you're assassinated or made to be a spy/agent. What I want to say is that everyone who opposes Iranian ideology in the middle east is oppressed. You risk death by voicing your opinion.
@SuperMagnum2011
@SuperMagnum2011 7 ай бұрын
Thank you William. Always good listening. Very informative.
@phil3038
@phil3038 7 ай бұрын
I think another caveat that should have been included in the data bias, that some Gazans might have felt fear and/or paranoia about answering questions about Hamas, making at least a noticeable percentage decide to answer in support of Hamas in fear of any objection putting themselves at risk. Anyone else think this might be relevant?? Another point, wheres the lines on maps 😂😂😂😂
@gort1319
@gort1319 7 ай бұрын
He adressed that point in the video
@richrick6168
@richrick6168 7 ай бұрын
Also religion-wise, in Islam it is considered worse to rebel against your leader, more so if you they are corrupt, out of fear of ongoing civil wars. And Palestine has suffered from that the most. Both recently and historically
@phil3038
@phil3038 7 ай бұрын
​@@gort1319I'm watching again as I comment. Perhaps I missed it! After watching and absorbing the information again I still didn't see any reference to my point. William Spaniel is far more informed and knowledgeable on this subject than myself. I trust his analysis to be fair, logical and unbiased, Perhaps he thought about my point and comcluded it wasn't relevant enough to scew the stats, or perhaps in the rabbit hole of potential reasons for bias he missed it! Either way I didn't see any reference to my point in the video
@Moses_VII
@Moses_VII 7 ай бұрын
​@@richrick6168As a Muslim, I confirm this. Imam Ali Sajjad PBUH didn't rebel against the Umayyada who killed his father, but instead assisted them because the Byzantine Empire was threatening Islam with their coins. Imam Sajjad helped establish the fiest coin mint in the Muslim world. Imam Husayn on the other hand was in a different situation, where the Non-Muslims were no threat, and Yazid was a mahor threat.
@vincentperiolat4610
@vincentperiolat4610 7 ай бұрын
Good point, thank you. I also don't remember him saying/expressing that.
@noammkw3770
@noammkw3770 7 ай бұрын
8:50 well its not because of the blockade... when israelis left the gaza strip they left a bunch of greenhouses used to grow flowers (which was gaza's main produce) and food, but since it was something the zionist built - the hamas activists and other supporters tore them down as soon as the israelis left, leaving them no way of making money or food. the blockade was done once hamas got into power, because theyre a danger to israeli civilians, which i think is understandable to everyone. egypt couldve kept their border open to break the blockade but i guess they didnt want to.... im israeli, so i actualy know older israelis who used to visit gaza's arab markets from time to time, just as people still do in israeli-arab cities (theres always some cool and fun market in arab cities, very good for the economy i assume). im sure the people who sold to these israelis were not happy with the blockade, aka hamas
@gal2659
@gal2659 7 ай бұрын
its not the blockade cause the blockade started in 2007, while israel left the strip in 2005.. and that's two years where missiles where going onto israeli citizens.. so yeah.. they can keep lying to themselves. besides, why do they never shoot at egypt ? blockade is on their side as well...
@noammkw3770
@noammkw3770 7 ай бұрын
just reminded myself of that one palestinian guy my mom used to work with (he used to sue clothed for her), one time she asked him about his political views, after years of working with her, and he told here "work is great and all but one day we'll throw you all to the sea" apparantly hes was a hamas supporter.... nowadays you cant have these relationships anymore since oct 7
@crustybomb115
@crustybomb115 7 ай бұрын
@@gal2659 because egypt kicked their asses out because they caused mass civil unrest and also created a terrorist organization within egypt in an attempt to use the egyptian border as a launch point for their attacks into israel(they didnt want that to happen cuz of larger geopolitical problems that couldve come from that given they managed to get peace with the israelis with the return of the sinai peninsula)
@gal2659
@gal2659 7 ай бұрын
@@crustybomb115 lol yeah i know it was a rhetorical qustion. sorry it wasnt clear
@personeater747
@personeater747 6 ай бұрын
@@gal2659 they shoot at israel because they oppose israel, rather than just one of israels actions.
@banto1
@banto1 7 ай бұрын
You glossed over why Barghoutti is in prison. He isn't a political prisoner like Mandela. He is serving 5 consecutive life sentences for murder. His popularity has nothing to do with his governing ability and everything to do with how many innocent Jews he managed to murder.
@woutvandessel1823
@woutvandessel1823 7 ай бұрын
Mandela led an armed resistance against his oppressors too. Mandela was officially considered a terrorist by the West until 2008. So they're not as different as you're trying to make it seem. The truth is, in some cases armed resistance is the only way to end oppression. That was the case in apartheid South Africa, and it's the case in apartheid Israel as well. When your people are being systematically driven into open air prisons, and the oppressor is constantly killing and bombing innocent civilians, it leaves the resistance with little choice but to fight back.
@fauzi4752
@fauzi4752 7 ай бұрын
Netanyahu killed more than he did yet he's not in prison at all
@adrianblake8876
@adrianblake8876 7 ай бұрын
@@woutvandessel1823I think there's a small difference in attacking government officials vs. attacking innocent civilians. And Hamas is solely focused on attacking innocent civilians. Like, these may be examples from twenty years ago, but they attacked a pizza parlour (Sbarro, in Jerusalem), a hotel (Park, in Nathania, Passover's eve), and a nightclub (the Dolphinarium, TLV/Jaffa), and busses... Currently they're targeting mostly the cities closest to the strip, with poorly aiming rockets, so they're really attacking no-one in particular...
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 7 ай бұрын
​@@adrianblake8876 I have no idea what Bibi was thinking when funding them, it seems that man will do anything to stay in power, even risking his own peoples destruction.
@bruh-px9bb
@bruh-px9bb 7 ай бұрын
​@@adrianblake8876the problem is that most view the resistance like those they see in the Hollywood movies,they tend to forget that their hands has always been tainted with red
@echalone
@echalone 7 ай бұрын
I learned a lot from this, thank you!
@MattBellzminion
@MattBellzminion 7 ай бұрын
Great piece, timely subject, and for myself, most informative. ("Mission accomplished!")
@bc-guy852
@bc-guy852 7 ай бұрын
The trouble with 'pulling the goalie' is that the other team often 'dumps one in the empty net' to finish the conflict before the team that pulled the goalie can take advantage of the extra attacker... Another great episode Sir. Thanks for the nod to maple syrup folks.
@palindrome.
@palindrome. 7 ай бұрын
@FreeLondonstan Yes, unfortunately. Hamas is still the greatest evil in the Levant, but Canada has no business sponsoring an apartheid regime. Stand with/reach out to Israeli civilian victims, sure; but not to back up the Israeli regime whatever it does. We should have learned from our own history to never stand behind colonial violence.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 7 ай бұрын
​@@palindrome. I don't know about Canada, but i do know that those indigenous mass graves turned out to be a hoax. In Australia there is the same popular racial guilt narrative of genocide, which is considered a cool & wise thing to say - when to the best of my current knowledge there is no evidence of genocide, there was civilians massacaring natives, and the Govt stepping in to bring them to justice. Just bc something makes me be percieved as a good person, does not make it true. Such issues of the past are also used to stoke racist white guilt & seek unequal racist power & take publicly owned land (that is then used very selfishly & in a racist way by indigenous group). I do wonder if that is the same for canada.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 7 ай бұрын
​@@palindrome. But yeah i agree with u on israel - but not bc I care about "which group is wholly to blame" as you do. What sides long dead people are to blame/living in past is the exact opposite of peace & security, they are actually mutually exclusive (try to imagine a practical solution based on that if u don't believe me).
@palindrome.
@palindrome. 6 ай бұрын
@@pebblepod30 If you think the genocide of indigenous peoples in Australia and/or Canada is a hoax, please 1) learn to ask what evidence the sources you rely on are drawing upon, and 2) consider seeing a therapist. I'm not saying the latter to be toxic, rude, or edgy; I think you would benefit from it. If you're mentally in a place where your politics/ideology are making you shut out reality, you need to take a step back and ask why. Yes, some suspected mass graves turned up by radar turned out to be not mass graves; and yes, civilians did commit massacres without instruction from government. But if you're denying the purpose and outcome of the residential school system (many buildings still standing), mass sterilizations (documented in government records), government-sanctioned violence, contemporary accounts, survivor accounts, the mass graves which are full of human remains, etc., you need to confront your own agenda.
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 6 ай бұрын
@@palindrome. How are you going to question this like I did if you feel like you are a bad person if you do? There is no harm in asking questions 7 seeking evidence, if it is wrong than explain and then i change me mind. Yes i already do that, that is exactly what changed my mind, since i have been taught that British conquerors (like all land on earth btw), did actual large scale genocide of indigenous people. That was starting belief that i never questioned, because questioning it was deemed racist, and I learnt a big dose of White Racist Guilt, which I later rejected as well. To me racist guilt about history is totally separate to what the history is - just to let you know, since lots of people connect the two. As I CURRENTLY CURRENTLY CURRENTLY CURRENTLY CURRENLTY understand it, they were talking about massaccers by citizens, which were usually penalized not endorsed, and the Tassie situation lacks the physical evidence (e.g. mass graves etc) that would be expected if it was govt enabled genocide VS disease or war (totally legitimate of course for Indigenous back then to defend their land from invading force, unlike today with new innocent people). If you can have a discussion with treating me the same respect that i treat you, then why don't you tell me the evidence?
@user-um2oe9hz8v
@user-um2oe9hz8v 7 ай бұрын
Most gazans are scared to say what they really want to say about hamas
@elenaklein5802
@elenaklein5802 7 ай бұрын
I beg your pardon, I am curious to know how empirically the barometer test was performed.
@simondaniel4028
@simondaniel4028 7 ай бұрын
I'm happy I stumbled into this channel.
@OnTheThirdDay
@OnTheThirdDay 7 ай бұрын
I think a problem with your polling analysis is that many people distrust the US government and even the press but they still support and believe what is told. It is well known that a large percentage of US citizens do not vote. Even if Congress has an unusually low popularity, the same sort of people keep getting elected. Not only that but you did not address the claims about other polling numbers showing hamas with around a 50% approval rating from recent years. You can't just rely on one poll (or two of you count the election from almost 15 years ago).
@Giantcrabz
@Giantcrabz 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was intentional on the part of this channel. It's called "lying by omission", or "spin". I am very curious who funds this channel, because I highly doubt it's all aboveboard organic Patreon subs or whatever
@jamesdragonforce
@jamesdragonforce 7 ай бұрын
I think it has to do with lack of accessibility and lack of choice. The Cynical Historian made (I think) a brilliant video on this. Many states force you to wait in line to vote in a booth. The south used to enforce ludicrous literacy tests to prevent blacks from voting. And, in large part due to legal corruption, campaign financing guarantees that you aren’t presented with many choices on the ballot, thereby manufacturing consent to a large degree. There are many other factors, but these are the ones I can think off the top of my head. I need to sleep.
@OnTheThirdDay
@OnTheThirdDay 7 ай бұрын
@@Giantcrabz Well, I don't think it is necessarily "funded" by whatever you are suggesting. (He does make a plug for his book.) He seems to be a professor who uses this as his video blog to share his opinions. His channel seems to have started out as a game theory channel then recently has been focused on political theory.
@KelticStingray
@KelticStingray 7 ай бұрын
​@@Giantcrabzwouldn't surprise me if you think George sorts is involved
@familyguygaming_
@familyguygaming_ 7 ай бұрын
why would he report a poll by israelis? that would be like him reporting a russian poll of how many ukrainians support annexation by russia. you don’t report from biased sources
@RandallReviere
@RandallReviere 7 ай бұрын
It is a pity that the pollsters apparently did not ask the 73% who are recorded as wanting 'peace with Israel' what exactly that meant to them personally. There are so many possibilities there, and a great many of them might not be in any way acceptable to the Israelis. 'Peace through defeat' comes to mind. As of now, a reasonable Gazan who might have supported Hamas as a tribal matter ("I wish it were someone else, but it's who we have now") is deploring the fact that Hamas has led Gaza into a terrible disaster. A new poll would likely only be able to separate the reasonable Gazans from the psychopathic ones, and we know how it goes when reasonable people fail to get in the way of large numbers of very determined psychopaths.
@MasterGhostf
@MasterGhostf 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. Peace means different things to different people. Asking waht peace means to a white supremacist or black panther member is entirely different.
@dontcomply3976
@dontcomply3976 7 ай бұрын
We will only know once this is over
@KalashVodka175
@KalashVodka175 7 ай бұрын
Don't misuses the term "psychopath". Psychopaths, clinical psychopaths as in; makes up an a minor proportion of any given population. The term you are trying to find is "angry" or "extremist".
@PizeFish
@PizeFish 7 ай бұрын
​@@KalashVodka175or... sociopath who are not born that way but gain the mental illness throughout their lives so its a possibility too
@seadkolasinac7220
@seadkolasinac7220 7 ай бұрын
'the fact that Hamas has led Gaza into a terrible disaster.' ah yes, Hamas is responsible for the fact Israel chooses to bomb civilian areas (which they admit to), and also for the fact Israel chose to cut off all water and food. Definitely Hamas' fault, the Israelis had no choice but to cut off all food to 2 million people!
@justadddiesel
@justadddiesel 7 ай бұрын
When are you going to make an audio version of your book?
@soksnfongz335
@soksnfongz335 7 ай бұрын
Thankyou William. Very interesting as always 👍
@gkcamden9050
@gkcamden9050 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. It’s not easy to break something so complex and polarized into a concise easily understandable form. It’s why I come here for insight into weighty topics.
@manitbaacy3413
@manitbaacy3413 7 ай бұрын
I tried to put my google profile a Nazi sign but i'm having trouble doing so.
@Nitidus
@Nitidus 6 ай бұрын
Please don't take anything from this video as fact. This is not a scientific study but a survey with a random paid survey platform commissioned by a private person for his book project. The report is incredibly biased and the results partially severely contradict what actually reputable sources found before 7 Oct. Don't get your information from KZbin alone! And just because somebody claims to present an allegedly serious source while insinuating, "Believe me, I'm a political scientist", doesn't mean any of it is true or even professionally done. Go read other people's criticism in the comment section, and more importantly go read the original article to see the incredible bias (for example they say Israelis are at fault themselves for their bad reception in Gaza because they retaliated after the massacre a month ago, which is structurally antisemitic argumentation). Go research the so-called "institute" and their background. I am appalled by someone treating their "results" as a portrayal of reality, especially when it's someone who claims to have an academic background in the field. Maybe stop joking about it in a video and rather get your craftsmanship straight...
@aandwdabest
@aandwdabest 6 ай бұрын
@@Nitidus I treat this video, just like anything, as speculation based on some forms of data - that poll was taken place before the October 7 attack took place, so there will definitely be attitude changes as events transpired. I still find it interesting nonetheless.
@notLord0
@notLord0 6 ай бұрын
I don't think Hamas's popularity in gaza will increase after all is said and done. There are many videos detailing how hamas blocks the populace from evacuating the northern-area of gaza, and videos of IDF soldiers with tanks leading HUGE lines of palestinians, who are holding white flags, towards the south.
@Miamcoline
@Miamcoline 7 ай бұрын
Really interesting! Thanks for making that!
@ignatiusj.reilly2124
@ignatiusj.reilly2124 7 ай бұрын
First time viewer here. Appreciated the humor. Subscribed.
@BarrettCharlebois
@BarrettCharlebois 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the shout out to my land of maple syrup
@peterdrake9615
@peterdrake9615 7 ай бұрын
You didn't mention the cancelled Palestinian elections. Is there truth to the story that Abbas's true reason for cancelling the elections was because Hamas was certain win, and not, as Abbas claimed, because of Israeli interference ?
@peterdrake9615
@peterdrake9615 7 ай бұрын
@@Giantcrabz What's your source?
@TheJo201
@TheJo201 7 ай бұрын
Dr Spaniel Iam a Regular Viewer of Your Channel. Thanks For Analistist
@DJ-ov2it
@DJ-ov2it 7 ай бұрын
This is the first time I see reported that Hamas is quite disliked in Gaza. The mainstream media doesnt report this.
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 7 ай бұрын
It is r7bbish mate Hasbara lying
@lilyayusupova2932
@lilyayusupova2932 4 ай бұрын
​@@manofwar2354oh really? Tell these Gazans about it👇: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHPNp4yhg9-od6Msi=jT-lOO0m5Ze2K8Bg (Gazan woman accuses Hamas of stealing aid) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaC8n6xmg5afiJIsi=E4x52C_CDvUfOXbr(Gazans curse Hamas) Hasbara is not the only liar in this case, but pro-Hamas propaganda is also.🤨And that's bad for Palestinian people, cause non-jewish and non-arab people can loose credibility to pro-Palestinian massmedia.🤔 Both sides are making fake news and manipulating with information, alas😕.
@triplebog
@triplebog 7 ай бұрын
UofM being one of the Universities involved in the Arab Barometer is interesting. Since one of their largest sattelite campuses is located in Dearborn, which has the largest Arab population per Capita in North America. At least according to the claims of the city and my anecdotal observations as a Michigander
@the_bug_bus3882
@the_bug_bus3882 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@TheCatholicNerd
@TheCatholicNerd 7 ай бұрын
Very good topic. In regards to the last reference, let's go Blues.
@rainmanslim4611
@rainmanslim4611 7 ай бұрын
And with all this, Hamas topped it all off with starting a disasterous war thats made everything worse for gazans. I wonder if they'll be remembered as heroes, or if their memory will be spat on and thought of as "good riddance"
@chaz706
@chaz706 7 ай бұрын
Gaza started this war with a parade of war crimes.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 7 ай бұрын
They will be remembered as heroes, look at how all of a sudden large protests against Israel and in support of Palestinians (and by extension, Ham-ass), and how quickly everybody forgot 1000+ Israelis were killed before Israel went nuts.
@arpandey698
@arpandey698 6 ай бұрын
Depends on how Isreal treats them after the war. If they rebuilt Gaza Hamas will be seen as wrong, if they just occpy and control Hamas ideology would remain.
@shawoomco
@shawoomco 7 ай бұрын
That's a real tragedy for both people
@JamieBarrington
@JamieBarrington 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. Honestly, this situation makes me so sad. There are no winners on either side
@michaelcarroll1436
@michaelcarroll1436 7 ай бұрын
Always great content... Constructive criticism/question: not sure about casting inflation so broadly as a "government macroeconomics problem" is clear... Why this statement? Is it the perception of inflation management being a government's responsibility? Inflation can occur sans government right? 🧐🤔
@Muenni
@Muenni 7 ай бұрын
People don't need to blame their government for the inflation itself to be angry with them if they don't successfully do something about it. No matter how realistic that task may be.
@OnTheThirdDay
@OnTheThirdDay 7 ай бұрын
All you need is another party to blame the current regime for the inflation. The same is going to happen in the 2024 US election, despite both presidents Biden and Trump being partly responsible due to huge US spending sprees.
@jorehir
@jorehir 7 ай бұрын
Low support for Hamas does not mean that most Gazans condemn the violent ways of Hamas. One party may be popular one year and unpopular the next one, but the electorate remains basically the same. The "moderate" alternative Fatah has 2 Kalashnikovs in its flag...
@alexanderp4115
@alexanderp4115 7 ай бұрын
you just earned a subscribe, from the simple yet detailed info to the clear neutrality and non bias shown here. As an Israeli you showed me new numbers that i probably would have never see before. thanks
@abdou.the.heretic
@abdou.the.heretic 6 ай бұрын
What's the budget for Hasbara ops up to lately?
@sexmansex4776
@sexmansex4776 6 ай бұрын
@@abdou.the.heretic any budget for those 80-year-olds who are still trying to understand what the internet is is too much tbh
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 ай бұрын
@@abdou.the.hereticgo run into a minefield and you'll find your answer.
@Peter_Scheen
@Peter_Scheen 7 ай бұрын
The scales you showed was not only not a barometer but also not a German scales. It was Dutch from Helmond.
@acey195
@acey195 7 ай бұрын
Looks like its a pay per use device, intriguing, but not knowing how old it is, 1 stuiver (5 cents of the pre-euro currency) is not a lot, but could be worth more, the older it is (running back the clock on inflation)
@ReinhardP
@ReinhardP 7 ай бұрын
"Wilhelmus van Nassouwe ben ik, van Duitsen bloed" That's close enough to being German 🤭
@dadolingenlief2190
@dadolingenlief2190 7 ай бұрын
Since Dutch sounds like a cheap imitation of German, it's not far off the mark.
@Peter_Scheen
@Peter_Scheen 7 ай бұрын
@@dadolingenlief2190 I have given you a thumbs up because I have never heard an insult about us that strong ever.
@vladromanyuk6739
@vladromanyuk6739 7 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain what he's on about in the end about Gali? Or Gala?
@chuckb8877
@chuckb8877 7 ай бұрын
Love the hockey reference and ur new book 👍 halfway through already
@lachanshachak4122
@lachanshachak4122 7 ай бұрын
Just 1 note: Hamas is backed by Iran in just about every way. There is pretty much no chance that the attack happened without Iranian support + permission. And a major Iranian benefit would be breaking up normalization talks between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 7 ай бұрын
No one want normaliziation in middle east Those puppet goverment dont represent us
@Themlpg73
@Themlpg73 7 ай бұрын
Even then. Imagine how difficult it is to answer as distrust when you are under the thumb of a terror group. And still most of them did.
@johannuys7914
@johannuys7914 7 ай бұрын
The Zionists?
@Themlpg73
@Themlpg73 7 ай бұрын
@@johannuys7914No, the people from Gaza.
@drsaufproblem
@drsaufproblem 7 ай бұрын
I tend to get lost in the visual presentation of this video when new numbers and visuals keep popping up. I'm usually wondering "hey wait a second, what year was that again?"
@corneliusblasterbox
@corneliusblasterbox 7 ай бұрын
What element of your videos is made by AI? I've always wondered 🤔
@hue3595
@hue3595 7 ай бұрын
5:28 It's a Dutch scale actually, not German
@Gametheory101
@Gametheory101 7 ай бұрын
Oops!
@Welgeldiguniekalias
@Welgeldiguniekalias 7 ай бұрын
@@Gametheory101It's okay, AI gets this wrong all the time.
@zibbitybibbitybop
@zibbitybibbitybop 7 ай бұрын
The thing that broadly complicates this question is the polling which reveals that even amongst Palestinians who don't like Hamas, most of them still want Israel to cease to exist in the long run. That forces Israel to fight for its very survival forever, no matter who is in charge of the Palestinians.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 7 ай бұрын
Because isreal was forced on them. Did anyone ask palestinians if they wanted a Jewish state carved out of their homelands? Or were they just forced to take it?
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 7 ай бұрын
In-depth analysis, I like it!
@alexanderchenf1
@alexanderchenf1 6 ай бұрын
You do not need to trust evil to help it, as long as you accept its governance
@jacer5677
@jacer5677 4 ай бұрын
"evil".. you're braindead
@AngusAbbott-qf8xm
@AngusAbbott-qf8xm 7 ай бұрын
I wonder how different the population pyramid would look without Western aid ?
@Handle0108
@Handle0108 7 ай бұрын
The same, all Muslim nations support Gazans.
@michal31131
@michal31131 7 ай бұрын
​@@Handle0108 But won't take refugees or condemn Hamas lol
@Handle0108
@Handle0108 7 ай бұрын
@@michal31131 why would they take Palestinian refugees? So that israel can lock them out of their own land and take it over for themselves? We’ve seen that before in 1948, never again, Palestinians will stand their ground this time.
@PimpleEyeRoblox
@PimpleEyeRoblox 5 ай бұрын
Amazing how you can tell that this entire video was made in a PowerPoint, yet it still came out so good!
@petermelville5524
@petermelville5524 7 ай бұрын
great post
@victoriahigman6802
@victoriahigman6802 4 ай бұрын
This is so interesting. Thank you
@Ynhockey
@Ynhockey 7 ай бұрын
I don't know about these polls. The closest to democratic elections that the Palestinians recently held was the student election in 2023 - where in Ramallah, Hamas won solidly. Hamas was undoubtedly immensely popular with Palestinians not living under its rule. Maybe after 16 years under Hamas, most Gazans realized what was going on, but I have some doubts.
@user-dl5ln3wd6f
@user-dl5ln3wd6f 7 ай бұрын
These “studies” could easily be fake or fabricated to some extent especially when you that it was done by western organizations who could easily have pro-israeli and pro-western agenda. Plus, these studies aren’t supported by what we see on the ground.
@e.d9993
@e.d9993 7 ай бұрын
Marwan Barghouti the man you showed with the 32% of support in the Strip ,who's also spending life in prison, Hamas wanted him to be included in the prison exchange but Israel refused as he's very popular among the Palestinians that if there's another presidential elections he will get a lot of votes with Hamas even abstaining to field any candidate to challenge him so not to hurt its image in the Palestinian political landscape as Fatah under Abbas did. Another thing I want to point out is the poll only asks about Hamas the political wing that runs Gaza but not the armed wing Qassam Brigade and its military or armed activities which is more independent from the political wing that the leader of the armed group is in hiding for almost 20 years that even Khalid Mashal the former head of Hamas and the current leader Ismail Haniyeh probably don't know his whereabouts and he and his paramilitarily wing enjoys some public support for being the only Palestinian faction doing the armed struggle since PLO disarming itself after Oslo accords that didn't bring the state that the people wanted as their territories keeps shrinking and shrinking as a result of Israel expanding and building more settlements in the West Banks/East Jerusalem.
@arthurmorgan6650
@arthurmorgan6650 7 ай бұрын
The west bank was part of Jordan. Israel took it after defeating Jordan in 67. How come Jordan hasn't wanted it back?
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 7 ай бұрын
Very important context skipped over in this video either out of ignorance or to push the agenda that the Palestinians are a "peaceful" people
@The_Conqueeftador
@The_Conqueeftador 7 ай бұрын
​​@AdamSmith-gs2dv Yeah, he's a college indoctrinated lefty. He'd be protested against if he told the truth. I think he may actually have a university affiliated job. So this video may just be veiled propaganda.
@petebagwell6666
@petebagwell6666 7 ай бұрын
​@AdamSmith-gs2dv lol there hasn't been an election in 16 years
@AG45.
@AG45. 7 ай бұрын
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv like how israeli officials call hamas a creature of israel? like how anyone would be broken if they were subjected to what the gazans are being subjected to?
@General12th
@General12th 7 ай бұрын
Hi William! What's a goalie?
@daskritterhaus5491
@daskritterhaus5491 7 ай бұрын
5:24 soooooo where the blazes is the north american barometer?
@sandhill9313
@sandhill9313 7 ай бұрын
The potential for sample bias is overwhelming, I don't much buy their results. It would have been interesting to see what response would have been if the question substituted Israel for Hamas 🙂
@sla8tful
@sla8tful 7 ай бұрын
@@GiantcrabzI dont think Gazans need to like Israel but they need to compromise… most Israelis really dont mind a two state solution, what you hear from the west bank constitutes a fraction of a precent of Israelis
@RogueSabre
@RogueSabre 7 ай бұрын
I made this argument when it came to Ukraine in the early 90s why would the United states feel obligated to guarantee Ukrainian sovereignty at the potential expense of many American lives when the Soviet Union was as good as destroyed? At the end of the day America must take care of America. If an administration refuses to do so then that government will likely fall. That's the strength and weakness of a democracy
@gunner38ED
@gunner38ED 7 ай бұрын
What a nice way of saying America, Russia and other nuclear and economic powers basically "compelled" Ukraine to stop being the 3rd largest nuclear power at the time or face economic sanctions in order to avoid dealing with more nuke holders. In return, a piece of useless paper many want to rat out from was signed. It wasn't a lovely disinterested action. Would your opinion be the same if it was about containing the CCP?
@sonovagod
@sonovagod 7 ай бұрын
the fact that this is the first time i've seen this question asked is part of the problem.
@vampalan
@vampalan 7 ай бұрын
The question in the title is a good topic!
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 7 ай бұрын
Wow - precisely the info I was looking for! Thank you.👍 (and as one of the 6.9%ers, I appreciate the ending. 😉)
@atislaksis6987
@atislaksis6987 7 ай бұрын
all of us Latvians also get what you mean when you say "pull the goalie", Fins also get it
@Gametheory101
@Gametheory101 7 ай бұрын
I consider myself to be a Theodor Blueger Stan.
@sedoff1948
@sedoff1948 6 ай бұрын
Good show. Thanks.
@victoriahigman6802
@victoriahigman6802 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Gametheory101
@Gametheory101 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jakeaurod
@jakeaurod 7 ай бұрын
LOL, I think it was Vlad Vexler who said the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can't be explained in 2 minutes... So, go for 3.
@marciafirst2271
@marciafirst2271 7 ай бұрын
I get what “pull the goalie” means, but I’m not a “guy.” I’m a mom who spent at least 12 years driving her daughters to soccer games. 😂❤
@JozGold
@JozGold 7 ай бұрын
I have to say, that the release of this data is awfully convinient. Is there data that was released pre oct 7?
@Behemoth138
@Behemoth138 7 ай бұрын
Great stuff as always but I need more lines on maps
@usurparemagnus
@usurparemagnus 7 ай бұрын
I have talked to several Palestinians from Gaza and Jerusalem, none of them like Hamas and thinks that Hamas is the vehicle by which the Israelis keep the Palestinians divided lol
@drgat6953
@drgat6953 7 ай бұрын
I imagine that is a common view among more educated Palestinians, especially those that can speak English. That does not mean it reflects the population as a whole. Truthfully it is very difficult to get accurate polling in non-democratic areas. People tend to self-sensor or change their answers based on who is asking to protect themselves.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 7 ай бұрын
Netanyahu actually admitted to his country supporting funding Hamas back in 2019 to keep Palestine “divided”
@drgat6953
@drgat6953 7 ай бұрын
@@faheemabbas3965 Yep Israel aided Hamas when it was a charity before it took up weapons. Even if it did after, it does not change anything. The Palestinians and Hamas leadership are adults. They are responsible for their own actions.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 7 ай бұрын
​@@drgat6953hamas wasn't a charity in 2019
@drgat6953
@drgat6953 7 ай бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl no it wasn't but the OP did not specify when Israel aided Hamas, only that the comment was in 2019. And again, not relevant. Hamas is made up of adults. They chose violence and disunity with Fatah. No on else.
@jacko.6625
@jacko.6625 7 ай бұрын
If a statistically significant number of Gazans knew about the attack. Israel (with their information sources in Gaza) would have found out and not been taken by surprise.
@abesapien9930
@abesapien9930 7 ай бұрын
But Gazans have watched 10,000's of rockets be launched from Gaza into Israel for decades. They know what Hamas is doing.
@dallysinghson5569
@dallysinghson5569 7 ай бұрын
@@abesapien9930 Not the same as knowing that a huge attack is imminent beyond "typical noise".
@Hyoungje
@Hyoungje 7 ай бұрын
@@dallysinghson5569The point being Palestinians don’t have a problem with Hamas killing Israeli civilians. They know where the missiles are going.
@goyurigo
@goyurigo 7 ай бұрын
Great analysis!
@MiraSthira
@MiraSthira 6 ай бұрын
Is there any way to get any more recent polls from Gazans?
@talknight2
@talknight2 6 ай бұрын
haha, no.
@ezekielbrockmann114
@ezekielbrockmann114 7 ай бұрын
HAMAS has plenty of support in "The West," mostly by the predictable Post-Soviet 5th Column.
@animeXcaso
@animeXcaso 7 ай бұрын
elaborate
@ezekielbrockmann114
@ezekielbrockmann114 7 ай бұрын
@@animeXcaso You know, the usual suspects: The Cultural Marxists. They share the same goals as HAMAS, they all want to destroy the West.
@michaelkhalfin690
@michaelkhalfin690 7 ай бұрын
The important context to understand here is that when things are relatively calm and peacefull Israel actually is perfectly willing to relax the blocade and allow for economic cooperation and even allows Palestinian workers to enter Israel where they can find good paying jobs (comparatively), in fact right before the attack Israel was admitting record numbers of Gazans and the blockade was as relaxed as it had ever been so there was more room for economic activity. If the Gazans understand that Hamas's intansigence compared to the government in the west bank is what is costing them a lot, blame Hamas, and are thus leaning towards more moderate solutions, it might actually be a reason for optimism. But it remains to be seen what the fallout of the current conflict will be in this regard.
@Practicalinvestments
@Practicalinvestments 7 ай бұрын
KZbin deleted comment for simply saying I agree with your optimism because at a time like this where my temple recieves darth beats weekly calling for the darth of all juice, I like to think eventually a peaceful solution one where people stop calling for the ‘leaving’ of isra ^£ El (I’ve seem too many pro isr comments getting censored and deleted makes me start to wonder if google is pro pal, and really does support T’s) (I can’t believe I have to type like this considering some of the comments I see pal supporters post)
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 7 ай бұрын
Their passport system makes the 2nd class citizens dummy!!!
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy 6 ай бұрын
Just going to _ignore_ the settler land-stealing issue there, huh?
@Rosenzweigjcb
@Rosenzweigjcb 6 ай бұрын
​@@BimpytheWimpyShrimpythere weren't any settlers in the Gaza strip nor has there been for decades now.
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy
@BimpytheWimpyShrimpy 6 ай бұрын
@@Rosenzweigjcb that's because it's not _only_ about the Gaza Strip; the illegal settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem.
@a.m204
@a.m204 7 ай бұрын
Well said
@judyhawkins6584
@judyhawkins6584 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, that was very useful and clear, and astonishingly free of polarized political stuff. I know this is way too much to ask, but I would love to see a lines on maps of the whole Palestine/Israel situation since 1917, including the US, the UK, and Jordan at a minimum, and using materials such as the MEI article, "Five things the United States knew about the Nakba as it unfolded." It would be an interesting wrinkle if your line reflected such variables as weight of financial and military resources, as well as external opinon and support; such that (in my vague imaginings) Isreal's line would be very heavy, and Palestine's thin and possibly even fractured -- nearly invisible. Anyways. Way too big a project.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 7 ай бұрын
I will admit, I just assumed most of the population was predominantly behind Hamas, eventually growing in the young after their violent securing of power/Civil War in the early 2000s. And videos of crowds cheering with women tied to cars while they drove down the street confirmed that bias. More complicated than I thought, possibly.
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 7 ай бұрын
Women ?that woman was idf soldier mate
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 ай бұрын
@@manofwar2354And? does that automatically change her gender?
@manofwar2354
@manofwar2354 2 ай бұрын
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 nope ,if she want to be a soldier she will be treated like a soldier who invade others Simple as that 80 percent of zionist sc7m are trained army to built their greater zionist israel state
@jeremypearson9019
@jeremypearson9019 7 ай бұрын
11:30 With all due respect, I don't think that it's a "funny" source of sample bias that a significant portion of the population didn't want to talk to the surveyors because they were planning a massive operation to torture and kill innocent citizens. Strange, maybe. Funny, no. Ultimately, it was simply tragic and heart wrenching. Edited for spelling
@StevenSmith-mv4ge
@StevenSmith-mv4ge 6 ай бұрын
Interesting video.
@GalyTheSugarLover
@GalyTheSugarLover 7 ай бұрын
3:41 you deserve my like and sub for this genius
@talknight2
@talknight2 6 ай бұрын
Just for the record, the "mob" at 0:33 is a WW2 memorial parade. It's a very big annual event in Russia. People are holding up the portraits of their relatives who died in the war.
@BobOcksucker
@BobOcksucker 7 ай бұрын
Okay okay, now do what gazans think of Israel
@AlexAnteroLammikko
@AlexAnteroLammikko 7 ай бұрын
They don't like them. For some strange reason.
@Special_K_42069
@Special_K_42069 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video. Thank you, @williamspaniel for an important update to this devastating war. BB needs to see this
@jonno27
@jonno27 6 ай бұрын
This was the best summary of politics in Gaza that I have ever seen. I have been hearing about the dramas of Middle Eastern politics for so long that I switched off decades ago. I had been assuming that Hamas = Palastine
@jimmysalamon3417
@jimmysalamon3417 7 ай бұрын
This the greatest international affairs/political science channel on the internet
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