What happened during the last days of the Western Roman Empire?

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[@commentfreely5443]

The barbarians are invading! Romans: let's have a civil war again and not fight the barbarians.

[@harperdearing5681]

make a video on Julian the philosopher

[@user-fl7zn2tn9q]

Where is the video analyzed why Italians were unwilling to fight at this time?

[@muhammadahmad1851]

Damn...that Ricimer is Erebus real life version 😅

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

As a great Brazilian historian put it: "When Odoacer broke through Ravenna's gates, he didn't find the all-powerful Emperor of the civilized world, nor two Consuls protecting the Republic, not even a King leading his people into prosperity, but a weak and frightened child unable to protect himself, much less the people he nominally ruled."

[@maximusseverus7040]

Ah, I see. A man of culture

[@nelsonr1467]

Dovahatty!

[@fabiojuliaoenator]

Why Brasilian historian?

[@nelsonr1467]

@@fabiojuliaoenator dovahatty

[@Beencouraged777]

Wow, no disrespect, but I couldn’t help except think of our current President, Joe Biden. We are in serious trouble.

[@stevejohnson3357]

I think Odoacer's sparing of Romulus was carefully considered. He sent the message that if you obeyed, you would be spared. And doing that in the case of Romulus was safe because he was not going to raise an army. Also, he had likely known the kid for most of his life and maybe he liked him.

[@TetsuShima]

*Fun fact:* There's an amazing comic about the Fall of the Western Empire called "Amiculus", in which the byzantines, after re-conquering Rome during the reign of Justinian, try to find out the fate of Romulus Augustulus while the last days of the boy as emperor are shown through flashbacks. Loved the way Orestes was portrayed here as a maniac obsessed with maintaining the Empire no matter what 14:55 By the way, I love these guys for wearing the correct armor that the Romans wore since the 4th century. I never understood why most movies use the same classic uniforms, no matter where in Roman history the movie takes place. The docudrama "Ancient Rome: The Rise and Fall of an Empire" would be the only exception

[@JuliusCheemsar]

Sebastian, you really got me interested in late Roman history. All the way from Theodosius to Julius Nepos. I always loved Roman history but like you’ve said in other videos, the fall of the west is extremely simplified.

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

Hello Julius, thanks a lot, that is wonderful to read :) I am happy I could get you interested in that extremely fascinating time.

[@JuliusCheemsar]

@@Maiorianus_Sebastian no problem man. Gratias ago tibi amicus.

[@Mango_Eter]

@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I knew when I heard your voice that you're the guy from Sebastian and Jixuan. Now I find it hard to believe anything you say.

[@Nozylatten]

I think if he wanted people to know his name he would have added it to the channel, ass licker lol

[@TEverettReynolds]

@2:15 its not the fact that the Barbarians crossed over the Rhine in 406\407 into the Western Empire, they had done that many times in the previous 300 years. *It's the fact that Rome in 406 A.D. no longer had an army capable of dealing with them anymore.* That is the point that many historians fail to recognize. Where was the Roman army? Why couldn't they defend the empire anymore?

[@StephanthePelted]

Is there any analysis done on why Italians during the end of Roman empire became unwilling to fight for the empire? Is it purely due to wages as the empire's soldier?

[@PoochieCollins]

Great question. I tried Googling about this and still couldn't find discussion of it.

[@Ziddings]

Excellent Video! A video on Syagrius/Aegidius's state in Gaul in addition to one on Dalmacia would be cool.

[@Constantine_Bush]

Glycerius wasn't so bad,he managed to repel the Ostrogoths and the Visigoths.

[@Tunamornayy]

You're a god send, amazing content! As an idea, a video on the pockets of Roman culture existing in the Visigothic and Merovingian kingdoms at what their culture life was like would be great. I'm currently reading the inheritance of Rome by Chris wickham and he speaks in it for instance of the continuation of a 'Roman' culture in Aquitaine well into Merovingian rule.

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[@TEverettReynolds]

> pockets of Roman culture existing in the Visigothic and Merovingian kingdoms That would be a very interesting video. We know the barbarians, after taking over parts of the Western Empire, wrote two different sets of law codes for the Barbari and the Latins, and much of that was due to the different religions they had (Arian Christians vs. Catholic Christians). So we do know they were treated and governed differently, and it would be fascinating to get a picture of what that was like.

[@marvelfannumber1]

I've always found it interesting that Julius Nepos and Glycerius may have met again once Nepos fled to Salona (where he had made Glycerius Bishop). I wish we could know what they would have said to eachother When Nepos had to flee there too.

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

Yes, that is absolutely correct. I was wondering the same. Some even accuse Glycerius of having had Nepos murdered, but I personally don't believe that.

[@marvelfannumber1]

@@Maiorianus_Sebastian Yeah, I mean given how little we know about this time, anything could have happened. I know some people also believe Odoacer could have been involved in the assassination becuase he feared Nepos was plotting to take back Italy. Odoacer's original intent was to just rule directly in Zeno's name after all, which Zeno rejected, so Nepos was always an inconvenience to Odoacer. But we just don't know.

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[@stirpsromana]

Waiting for the video of Dalmatia and why Italy didn't wanted to fight for the Empire. Amazing video Maiorianus!

[@SobekLOTFC]

Great video, as always Sebastian. Keep up the exceptional work- ad astra per aspera, amicus 👍

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

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[@anakinthemannequin69]

Technically Odoacer swore fealty to Julius Nepos until he was killed in 480-then he swore fealty to Zeno. For that fact, I would consider 480 to be the real end of the Western Roman Empire.

[@gtangari]

Really nice video and looking forward to some further explanation why the "Italians" weren't keen on fighting for the empire 😕

[@seanmoran2743]

Quintus:
People should know when they are conquered. Maximus:
Would you, Quintus? Would I?

[@seanmoran2743]

I came across an American couple a few years back and Ancient Rome was mentioned and it’s fall They were concerned about the state of there own country and asked me what I thought made Rome fall I replied many things contributed to its decline inc Exhaustion But I said if your worried about America’s future you should look to how the British Empire Declined as it’s a much nearer collapse than that of Rome I also added Britains collapse is still ongoing as it was once the core state of an Empire and that the core state is still trying to be a major power while it squanders what little strength it has. America is in the process of doing just that.

[@TheOkieLife]

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[@aka99]

Try out the videos by channel toldinstone ! If you don’t know yet, I guess you will like it

[@barnabaszu]

Very interesting, thank you.

[@septimiusseverus343]

13:37 You kinda left out the fact that Zeno was dealing with a full scale usurpation by Basiliscus at the time. He was too busy trying to win back control of his still intact empire to be overly concerned with Western Puppet "Emperor" # 973.

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

Hi Septimius, yes that is true, although I have to say that he had regained control of the throne by the time Odoacer deposed Romulus. After September 476, he might have endorsed Nepos more, and I still count that as a mistake on Zenos' part ;)

[@septimiusseverus343]

@@Maiorianus_Sebastian I wouldn't count it as a mistake. I don't see the need in having 2 emperors when one half of the empire doesn't even really exist lol. I'd say Zeno made the correct decision, a recognition of a reality that had long been in place.

[@belisarius1453]

I am not surprised, guy simply don't like eastern romans, their history, culture and religion

[@aka99]

Which guy?

[@redcapetimetraveler7688]

i would love a video about : why the romano-indigenous rulers in Gallia and Britannia failed to maintain their freedom and fell to germanic kings ? the people like in Italy had lost their fighting spirit ? i don't think so : the phenomenon of the Bagaudae says the opposite. my guess is that some of those rulers laked of strategic depth... may be the example of Britanny in Armorica can let us explore the different reasons why some powers reached success while others fell : so the Bretons were : -invaders ? -refugees from Britannia ? - auxiliaries of Rome ? ... did they join the Armorican bagaudae or did they destroyed them ? Love your channel .. love roman history ROMA AETERNA !!

[@drsnypejsek]

Fantastic historical explanation and nice video. I love your channel.

[@trey85031]

Updated to Magister Militum, one of the best channels on KZbin

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Hello Trey :) Thank you so much for your huge compliment and for even upgrading your membership 🤗 This really motivates me a lot, and I hope that you will also enjoy the upcoming videos on this channel :)

[@drusik]

Good question!

[@tired_exe37]

The History of the Late Roman Empire has always interested me, thank you for your good content. Keep up your Great Work!

[@ThalesGMota]

Excelent Video,I Can’t Wait For The Next One.

[@alexjohna1]

very informative ,thankyou

[@user-fl7zn2tn9q]

Where is the video analyzed why Italians were unwilling to fight at this time?

[@salongreed]

Interested to see a video explaining why you say Italians refused to fight for the empire during this time

[@KommentarSpaltenKrieger]

my guess would be that the empire was something poor folks and slaves cared little about since it cared little about them for which they didn't feel like fighting and that those who had an interest in its preserverance belonged to social classes which were not that prone to fight. The professionalisation of the army which had happened centuries ago also meant that without tax revenues to deal out, there were no professional soldiers and thus, the declining revenues after the sack of North Africa dealt a fatal blow to any such measurements.

[@RyanKlein15]

The same reasons most westerners don't fight today.

[@evertjan9479]

@@RyanKlein15 Ermmmmm NO, the reason why "most" Westerners don't fight today is BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAR TO FIGHT.>>>>> ROTTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS, that's PRETTY MUCH WEST EUROPE.

[@natalassblaster]

These videos are awesome!!! Keep up the great work!!!

[@jasoncuculo7035]

Thanks!

[@Maiorianus_Sebastian]

Thanks for the donation, I really appreciate it :)

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

most enjoyable - informative introducing

[@comentedonakeyboard]

And thus the Empire died. Up Next: Charlemagne presents The Empire strikes back?

[@tomkenis861]

Well done!

[@azteccroatia1496]

Waiting for story of Dalmatia. 😄 Good work here on the channel 💪🙋

[@darkenbruh6479]

I wonder, such a powerful people, why didn't they gain independence from the barbarian tribes after the fall of the empire the way the Chinese gained independence from the Mongols or the Manchus? , so many people in Europe and America today have ancestry from the Roman Empire?

[@samtheman4931]

At that time Roman ancestry is like American ancestry non existent

[@jamiemattinson]

Great video! This among other videos have recently got me very interested in the world of late antiquity, so thank you for that. Just thought I would also point out that the Latin sign off you use might be more accurate if it were "gratias vobis ago, amici", because "tibi" is singular, "vobis" is plural and I assume you are talking to your audience as a whole.

[@wynnschaible]

Scarily similar to our own time in too many not-allowed-to-talk-about-'em ways!

[@teslaoliveira2195]

Super!

[@mattclements1348]

Yes this is great

[@CaptainGrimes1]

Do you think it's true that Andalusia ultimately comes from the name of the Vandal kingdom in the same area? Al-andulas -is Vandalia

[@Tubehauge]

yes? It was named Vandalusia

[@Tubehauge]

@@Zeerich-yx9po its not unknown. The Vandals ruled in southern Spain before later moving to north africa

[@Tubehauge]

Vandalusia, land of vandals. Its not that hard to research it and find out its a very likely etymology theory

[@laughsatchungus1461]

W channel ngl wish I could patreon

[@ThalesGMota]

I Remembered Of Battle Of Pavia In italian Wars.

[@dbrown9495]

The old model of conquering and establishing rule didnt work any more. In order to defeat the invaders you would have needed at least 2 million superbly trained legions . And better and modern equipment.

[@gianfrancorenda2280]

Thank you, friends is Gratias vobis ago, amici. .Is it so difficult to learn?

[@halsnyder296]

If you could go back in time and remove the influence of a single person; who would it be???

[@fedc9731]

Justinian “the great”

[@fedc9731]

Although from this video, definitely Ricimer

[@foreverraining1522]

Apostle Paul. If it wasn't for that p.o.s. the earth wouldn't have been plagued with a mental Illness called christianity.

[@septimiusseverus343]

No one. I'd be potentially causing a paradox, which could lead to even more dangerous repercussions down the line.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

@@fedc9731 why?

[@jam1087]

Yes I agree that there wasn't truly a fall. Pretty much all the same characters except only one emperor and nothing like the degree of change which occurred in Russia 1917

[@adrianmbutnariu]

A sacrifice for the Algorithm

[@ThalesGMota]

Should Talk About Post Roman Gaul The Franks And Gália of Franks The Frank Kingdom And The Roman Family of Charlemagne The House Harstel.

[@aka99]

Yes, but I guess this channel is about western and eastern Roman Empire. Not holy Roman empire

[@georgekiriak7027]

have you made the video on why the italians didnt fight for the empire? TY

[@egillskallagrimson5879]

I'm looking forward for that video on why the Romans and specially the Roman Italians didn't want to defend their homeland. I believe we are heading now to a new dark age and trends like moral degradation and the loss of the will to fight is a cyclical phenomena that must be understood to avoid catastrophe in the present.

[@Alex-zs7gw]

What tripe I'd argue that morals and appreciation for equality are only just now starting to gain any sort of traction post WW2 - hopefully one day becoming the consensus. Id also imagine the reason for not wanting to go to war as being synonymous with the justification today - why would ordinary people sacrifice their lives to benefit only those few who dominate privelage

[@SethTheOrigin]

@@Alex-zs7gw You are unfathomably wrong

[@armankamal332]

Yes Barbarians from the northern regions hat no barrier to keep the at bay

[@mariozaccaria1078]

What happende with Liburnia and Dalmatia after Marcellinus dominion?

[@Nostalgicholy]

....ask OdoAcer

[@oisnowy5368]

When I hear Nepos, I am reminded of nepotism. But I doubt the Nepos here had enough and lived long enough to establish nepotism in his name.

[@evertjan9479]

What's the root of the word nepotism? Etymology. Borrowed from French népotisme, from Italian nepotismo, from Latin nepōs (“nephew”), a reference to the practice of popes appointing relatives (most often nephews) as cardinals during the Middle Ages and Renaissance. So Nepos actually is kinda close :)

[@stefanciocan1605]

What on earth do you mean by "the last days of the Roman Empire" ...? Rome is HERE WITH US FOREVER. ROME IS IMMORTAL. MANKIND IS THE LEGACY OF ROME AND WHITOUT ROME THEIR IS NO MANKIND ! Senatus Populusque Romanus !!!

[@aka99]

Lol

[@j.a.weishaupt1748]

I want whatever you’re smoking

[@MBP1918]

interesting

[@runkelpokk9]

the lack of genocide in later years doomed rome

[@adrianlasin574]

i blame not only diocletian for the fall of the western empire but constantine the great. he snobbed the romans and stablished his own capital, constantinople. his failure to hand down the empire to the next emperor caused his sons to fight and divide the empire.

[@Kingedwardiii2003]

In 395 the empire could’ve United under one of the emperors had the other emperor met an unfortunate early death

[@fortunatusnine2012]

👍👍

[@Sandderad]

Why does Hispania seem rather irrelevant during the late Empire? Especially if compared to the late republic and early principate, which had some of it's finest legions and commanders sprung from the province.

[@seanmoran2743]

Julius Caesar himself couldn’t have saved Rome at this time nor in the last 200 yrs I’d it’s existence

[@Rhine0Cowboy]

Can i just nitpick the background music? The bells make it sound like you're standing in line of a busy fast-food restaurant where ovens keep pinging.

[@autisticsupercarnut5333]

Odeoacer was asked by the Roman Senate to depose Romulus Augustus. In the name of Christianity. the barbarians were already Aryan Christians. But the Romans although Christian, were still celebrating Pagan holidays. It was decided Rome could not continue, without going against the new Christian god.

[@anakinthemannequin69]

I highly doubt this. Roman Catholics would have preferred low key pagan rituals as long as they called themselves Catholics to Arian Christians-whom they didn't even view as fellow Christians.

[@darthwizzywizard]

Most Italians even today don’t have the vigor or capacity to March in formation & fight. It’s a small pool of Italian stallions now. Plus I honestly think these older German peoples were just way to powerful. I think it was more or less there numbers of actually Germans that were few in numbers. As they mixed with the less warlike peoples the Western Romans could deal with them better. There are not to many warriors in Italy today, there are some great genetically gifted ones. But they rather drink wine and eat pasta. Lol.

[@evertjan9479]

Are you Italian, and if so where from? If you are not, don't bother.....THEY WERE NOT ITALIANS, BUT ROMANS....R.O.M.A.N.SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ( Don't let my name fool you, I actually AM an ITALIAN living in the Netherlands.

[@seanmoran2743]

Should we put Rome on a pedestal ? After all it Destroyed the burgeoning civilisation of Gaul and did many other Terrible things Is this the sort of Civilisation we want to follow ? I find Ancient Rome Fascinating but I’m drifting into the Tom Holland camp

[@YeS1711]

You made a mistake at 10:25 Impostors don't count as roman emperors. This inclusion doesn't count I'm afraid.

[@Meirstein]

Says the greek.

[@dylanhoffman423]

You should refrain from biases like calling Ricimer a murderous bastard or psychopath. In reality you have no idea what Ricimer's reasons were for deposing Majorian. Your channel would maintain much more historical integrity if you didn't promote these biases.

[@abraham146]

No he shouldn't because that's the truth about Ricimer. If you don't like to hear it then don't watch the video

[@dylanhoffman423]

@@abraham146 Ricimer was a sigma male bro deal with it

[@georgekiriak7027]

10:28 That barbarian king was no Roman emperor( dont call him like that ) . He tried to steal the title because he didnt like his barbaric heritage .

[@konstancemakjaveli]

Ricimer kept west together. After he died, west collapsed in 3 years.

[@ruufusdeleon1264]

Thanks!

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