What Happened To Camron? Camron VS Jay-Z | Throwback Beef!

Now in 1995 Jay Z formed Rocafella Records with his partners Damon Dash and Kareem Burke. The first project that got released by the label was Reasonable doubt in 1996. The project did not do amazing numbers out the gate. Most of the project’s singles like dead presidents and can’t knock the hustle failed to reach the top 40, It debuted at number 23 on the billboard 200 and sold 43000 copies in it is first week. Sales aside this project essentially Rocafella records on the map. By 2002 Jay Z had put out 7 albums. Rocafella had their hands in multiple businesses, they were introducing new artists to Rocafella and one of them is a rapper from East Harlem, New York known as Camron.
Now Mase took Camron to Biggie house. At the time Camron was trying to get a record deal with a major label he knew that if he impressed Biggie, he might get an opportunity to achieve that dream. Camron freestyled for Biggie for 25 minutes and by the end of the freestyle, Big was so impressed with what he just heard that he cosigned the up and coming rapper. Big introduced Camron to record label owner lance Un Riveria and soon after that Camron got signed to Untertainment label.

[@erichart2756]

And let's be real Jay wants all the credit, they could've made a bigger empire with Cam realistically

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

@ryan worthy you don't get what the original comment is expressing. Your making this him vs him.... that's not real, and that's one of the main reasons the story went the way it did. All of the acts at rocafella were strong... especially when used together... and could have easily been a juggernaut.

[@brianjones5975]

Imagine J and Cam stayed in it smh crazzy

[@erichart2756]

@ryan worthy it clearly stated in the video dame pushed for cam because cam wanted to be an artist and dame wanted artist helping artist which cam was great at always has been and Jay really never truly knew how to do that, be real if Jay would've listened back then to what dame and cam were looking at then kingdom come wouldn't have sounded so bitter and would've been a better Jay entry sales it not that was a miss for Jay

[@erichart2756]

@@edwinbetancourt3958 exactly cause I thought that's what Jay wanted on roc la familia but looking back that was an out with the old in with the new album for Jay... Not only did Amil have a half a verse on the whole album but he stopped bringing the heavy lyrical female artists too... Seriously young Jay would've brought Young MA out no question

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

@ryan worthy yes, he did state about retirement, but he also mentioned about helping to break new artists, which Dame also stated Jay wasn't really interested in, until the artist got something buzzing for themselves first. He mentioned wanting Jay to help the other artists on their first single. It was one of the million issues they were having between them

[@bobbycarter1293]

Can’t believe purple haze didn’t sell more that album was classic

[@pa.encema2821]

gay-z had something to do with

[@thataurus2492]

That 106 & Park interview with those 2 will always be legendary

[@russondaholley6415]

I remember when Camron had hit after hit! Then put Dipset on the map!#ClassicTimes 💯💯💯

[@Bbyb00gangsta]

FACTS

[@loveyoursign2923]

Dang reminds me of juelz santana

[@Jac735]

@@loveyoursign2923 it sucks because Juelz was on the rise buy he messed up big time imagine were he eoulda been at now

[@seanfrance3182]

Diplomatic Immunity and all their joints was my whole playlist in middle school

[@Von_Donovan]

Beyonce and Destiny's Child made that collaboration with Cam WAY BEFORE her and Jay were a thing!

[@brandonmoore6521]

Yeah cam had her before jay

[@frank5d]

I still got that S.D.E. on vinyl. Never really liked it haha.

[@rhyno8644]

What im trippin off is who really Kelly Rowland's high yellow baby's daddy. Yall were thinking it too.

[@supremesurfer]

Beyoncé fiancé check my 2nd LP bring it back that's ya girl that's ya world had the thing fuckin singing bout slingin crack

[@MichaelGL_]

@@rhyno8644 prolly jim or juelz lmaooo

[@keishamurrell3095]

Jay-Z ruined everything when Roc A Fella was the Best Damn label

[@King_kizzy07]

He really didn't The stable got bigger and more successful

[@notpopimp8346]

Dame ruined everything. Trying to bring Cam in and make him president behind Jay back

[@karma92sims14]

@@notpopimp8346 Exactly God don't like ugly

[@nvm_mo5715]

These narratives are sickly

[@cazo8167]

That was definitely dame but ok

[@yukowade4495]

Jay & b are very similar when it comes to their egos

[@andyvelasquez9488]

Cam was supposed to sign to Biggie label right before he died! Big was the one who really brought him on the scene

[@supremesurfer]

Ma$e brought him on the scene

[@demetricesrkidd7256]

You think their beef was over bigs rap legacy ? One reason why jay mentioned big more than any rapper in his music?

[@quintintarantino2485]

It was more made but big did have him rap on a couple of songs

[@mixtapemania6769]

I thought Big L brought him on

[@turtleanton6539]

Big L not Biggie

[@deedwayne2752]

The background instrumental freaks me OUT feels like am watching CBS Reality crime documentary 😬☹

[@QuellyQ]

I just noticed that. Damn it is messing with my head lol

[@angelicsoulz]

Jay always trying to ride someone else's wave with a half assed verse so I believe all of this.

[@suchafknladyyy]

😂😂

[@socialmediaego]

Your favorite flake does the same thing

[@DTVisDISNEY1984]

Boy...even u don't believe that shit u just typed

[@rgar1322]

Just listened to Drug Dealers Anonymous and this couldn't be more true

[@charlesgriffin5208]

Just like my half ass ex girlfriend

[@rasakhenaton5176]

Cam still got the streets

[@JECZ23]

Cam can have the streets. I think most niggaz would rather have J's life over Cam's. No diss to Cam, I fucks with Cam heavy but niggaz is trying to be global. Cam a local, regional celeb at most.

[@dollarbill6342]

@@JECZ23 lets not act like cam is starving or something most niggas would give alot to be in his spot too lmao

[@user-pp4zw9lm6j]

JECZ23 Even Cam wanted Jay’s life over Cam. Why did he even diss him, in the beginning? There was no point. “When TF we start bouncin’?” WTF? Isn’t “What Means the World to You?” on the same album? H Y P O C R I T E

[@xbabygirltx]

@@JECZ23 Cam is known and respected internationally as well. We been knowing about him in the U.K since ‘Horse & Carriage’. Then everybody went hard for Dipset too. But you’re right - I doubt Cam is known by the under 25s globally.

[@socialmediaego]

True, but Jay got the World… BO$$ up lil suckas

[@yakovhadash]

The takeaway: Sway is everywhere

[@bronxkies]

But he still ain’t been doin the education.

[@yvonnemignon]

That’s truly honorable that despite Jay-Z’s personal feelings for Cam, he still did not disrupt Cam’s money or him as an artist. Diplomatic even...😬😬😬

[@d2dar459]

I see what u did there... 👌🏽😁

[@randritzhopper632]

The talking faces funny af 😂

[@sanyatesGRIA]

Yea these shits is throwing me off 🤣🤣🤣

[@ladyhaze7016]

😂😂😂

[@JukuduB]

Creepy actually

[@SR77736]

@@JukuduB nah they're funny.

[@quittajean6578]

Super funny

[@russondaholley6415]

Can you do "DIPSET" next? DIPSET DIPSET DIPSET😂😂😂

[@Thespeedrap]

What happened to them??They need to come back 2020 we need real Hip-Hop back.

[@2twelvez]

Marcel Zachary they dropped a project called “Diplomatic Ties”. It’s really a EP

[@turtleanton6539]

To late they are over

[@ness79007]

Correction, Cam’ron is a rapper from the WEST side of Harlem. Not the East side, get your facts right sonny.

[@EMMALEEMC]

thank you cause i head scratched on that one. amsterdam, st. nick, broadway stand up!!!

[@abuhudaifah_0]

Alright mate. Calm down.

[@mrlofi333]

@@abuhudaifah_0 no it’s serious go to network and say that

[@BrandonNYC]

Yeah like I’m tired of people keep saying cam is from East Harlem he’s from 140th & Lenox

[@horatioh2020]

The problem with the Roc is that Cam looking at Jayz like his peer and not his superior. Dame kept looking at Jayz as his artist and not his business Partner. I Dont blame Jayz for Pulling the plug on the Roc if things going left, Its business 😃

[@righteousone8454]

Cam was solidified without Jay. Why would he look at him other than a peer? Jay backstabbed Dame

[@horatioh2020]

@@righteousone8454 Cam only had a mediocre fan base before Purple Haze, that album made him a household name. Also, even back then wasn't Jay-Z the boss of Def Jam or something and Cam an employee or artist how were they peers? Lol, if you really think Jay-Z and Cam command the same level of respect when they walk into a room i will bid you farewell my friend. Peace 💯 😁

[@MrCalverino]

Killa Season went hard!!!!!

[@TimahR]

Lol I was just listening to that album last week on tidal 🤣🤣🤣

[@pollyeffinpocket1644]

My favorite Album💯💯

[@jayhunt81]

Killa Cam is one of the most UNDERRATED MC’s of ALL TIME!! #Facts

[@elplebeuchiha1996]

Not as underrated as Juelz Santana [+]

[@erichart2756]

I think Juelz was overrated considering he portrayed something he knew nothing about and cam was really about it... Cam is one of the best mcs on word play alone

[@jayhunt81]

@@erichart2756 💯 Killa that dude! I agree

[@steelbltz]

BIG LARGE GRANDE GREAT MASSIVE FACTS

[@EddieisKrueger]

Cam'ron even said Jay-Z had to approve anything he put and and he never held anything back even the disses and appreciate that. Jay-Z was about his business

[@williamblackfyre4866]

You need to stop with the making the still photos mouth move like they are talking. It looks stupid/creepy af.

[@MichaelBrantleyJr]

Right 😅

[@YSuniverse856]

😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

The ominous background music doesn't help

[@ladyhaze7016]

Lol, I like it

[@williamblackfyre4866]

@@ladyhaze7016 for godsakes why?

[@AB-qy9er]

Like Puffy, artists who signed with jay Z don't do too well or live long. At least she's still living.

[@tavorismyles4065]

Oh really? So Rihanna, J. Cole, Alicia Keys, Kanye West, DJ Khalid, Meg, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Big Sean, Beyonce, Shakira, Uzi, Miguel, Meek Mill aren't doing so well huh? That's not all either. Name a group that's better than Roc Nation. I'll wait. No I won't.

[@brownhippiex496]

@@tavorismyles4065 well a majority of the artist have made their money in other ventures because they aren’t making music like that fr. Also Beyoncé isn’t signed to Roc Nation

[@Roy_MO]

@@brownhippiex496 she’s majority of the artiste became who they are today because of Roc Nation! We have seen other label kill talents so give praise to where praise is due

[@iMothafuckinMe]

I love them all but i always felt that jay just never had the natural charisma and appeal a cam or a kanye have. I could be biased but i feel like jay didnt find his mass appeal until blueprint and then post-beyoncé jay, thats a whole nother beast.

[@richardromero2727]

Well said 👏

[@Dmaj089]

Then why he the first rapper on Glastonbury

[@jamelherring5359]

Enjoyed the video. I remember a lot of the tension growing up, and it sucked because they’re two of my favorite artist. I was happy to see them finally put their differences to the side. Maybe you should also do a video with Jay and Jaz-O’s history as well.

[@Sincere4Eva]

That welcome to NY is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 they both went in

[@ThouguohT]

Jay used to hold back people who weren’t his enemy but he didn’t do that to Cam. Seems like Jay was scared of son

[@f.burton135]

Dame tried to replace Jay with Cam (especially after the stabbing) and Jay clapped back! And the rest is history..

[@esuswalk2006]

get off Lame-Z's nutz....

[@russondaholley6415]

When wearing "PINK" became popular/gangsta for men! 😂😂😂

[@smokingwiththepharaohs4037]

Big facts rip stack

[@DatBwoiXERXESdem]

Cam made the pink wave, remember seeing niggaz wearing those knee length plain pink tees

[@philipfleming172]

I feel like Nas set da Pink off n da $treet Dream$ video, but erryby let Cam' da trend begin...love Cam, but he & I admire Na$ty E$co'...

[@Tromitize]

Dame was also cam manager when he dropped his debut confessions of fire.... Grew up in the same area... it made sense

[@mvxxderxnxx3078]

Yup of course jay ain’t from harlen he from Brooklyn I think

[@Tromitize]

@@mvxxderxnxx3078 jay definitely from Brooklyn king...marcy projects

[@russondaholley6415]

Honestly forgot about this beef with Jay lol 😂 Thanks for the refresher! 😂😂 Camron is a goat!! 🐐 💯💯💯

[@smokingwiththepharaohs4037]

Wee need a new beef DVD but on KZbin there so much beef since 2007 till now

[@MrOunce3]

If I remember correctly Jay Z featured first time we heard Freeway, He feature Memphis Bleek on his album at least twice before Memphos Bleek came out. He feature with Amil before she came out.

[@Kingbossdon]

He also did Rell 1st single it's obvious

[@Kingbossdon]

Well I heard Line em up 1st from Freeway with Young Chris

[@matthewmann8969]

Cam has that rhyming, hooks, And other things down he could have been more successful if Jay gave him more of a chance to

[@hicksa1]

No one can stop your destiny to greatness but you!

[@majorpaiyne2124]

5:45 I'm with Hov on that. I ain't putting my name on nothing until it can hold it's own first. You learn that as a D-boy.

[@ncpantherology6753]

His name ain’t no hov smh 🤦

[@Theodiorr]

Nigga ain’t have nothing to lose even if he did put his name on someone else lol. And if he was talking about retirement, then he gotta help build the new artists up regardless of they established or not. Beggars can’t be choosers

[@ogskywalker5669]

Wayne did it all the time so does drake now if your name really sells platinum you can do wtf you want and make it hot. Wayne was the feature master and made so many mfs off his features it’s ridiculous.

[@argue.with.yourself]

Jayz has always put himself and his buisness first! Most music greats do. My only wish is that Dame could have checked his attitude back then! Dame should still have a mega career.. not reality TV! sn: Idk why, but and Juelz & Jay mouthing the words took me out 😭😭

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

I love the way Ali breaks shit down and how he makes his videos...keep it up bruh u got my subscription

[@BrooklynHoncho]

Years later and still learning more about the situation! #THANKS

[@karma92sims14]

They was playing checkers while Jay was playing Chess the whole time lol

[@xbabygirltx]

I was literally about to write the same thing. Those kind of players always stay 10 moves ahead.

[@showmestatefinest5412]

Jay was just down to sell out to the man the most and stab his people in the back and become a puppet

[@igethighhighhigh]

When I seen him say other CEO’s I ain’t know jay was beside him 😂😂😂😂 SAVAGE

[@Genghiskoz]

That DipSet sweatsuit is Fuego

[@slimtimes.l.l.c4081]

Word up i was looking at that too

[@depht]

I like the video content, but whats the point of those goofy talking pictures? Uncomfortable to watch

[@blessed1ne]

it was probably offensive to Jayz that Dame wanted to pass the baton to Cam, hes nice but was never on Jayz level lets be honest

[@erichart2756]

I think due to Jay staying quiet made Cam win this, I get that Jay was the most successful hip hop artist but think of the overall evidence he had major points against Jay and Cam wasn't much of a liar

[@BergManATM]

Can DID win the battle. His track was better

[@pilotjones1786]

Quiet??? He responded on the Hustlin remix with Rick Ross and on Kingdom Come listen to Dig a Hole

[@thegreatone24]

Cam far from won, Hustling remix, nullified Cam gotta Love it then Dig a Hole killed Cam

[@JohnDoe-cd6ro]

Cam wasn't a "new" artist fam.

[@blessed1ne]

no Jay just plugged Charlie Baltimore and they was tight about it. lol

[@antoinerossignol9355]

That Beyonce feature trash !!!

[@chuckytpm101]

LMAO

[@marcysweet38]

Right 😂

[@Militant_Twinky_X]

My favorite Cam song will always be D Rugs... The storytelling in that was/is masterful... 💯👈🏾

[@dmb851290]

Never been a Jay-Z fan.

[@jdimandja]

Well done! Your videos seem thoroughly researched and informative. Also, you keep the videos interesting with the speech balloons, "talking" pictures, etc. You earned a subscription from me bro. Keep it up 👍🏽

[@AliTalksMusic]

Appreciate it man.

[@YeahHeSaidit]

Uh this is off.... Mase actually introduced Camron to the world Big helped him get signed

[@tibora13]

Its about the money Dolla Dolla Bill Yaaaaalllll...

[@Hugo_Tate]

Jay took cams verse off a song first. Then cam took him off oh boy only because of what jay did. Cam says it verbatim on his drink champs episode

[@Jessmoniquethomas]

I kinda wonder what happened to some of my songstress faves in the day like Deborah Cox, TaMia, Mya, and them

[@supremesurfer]

Mya on IG

[@willmatic84]

🤣 good video but you taking over the rappers faces was fucking funny 🤣🤣🤣

[@mvxxderxnxx3078]

So jay finessed the shit out of everybody 😭😂?

[@dmvconartists2542]

15:52 yeah I thought that was hilarious, not "that's ridiculous" or "that's not true" he said "that's like snitching"😂😂😂 ok he did it

[@adryangray8393]

I think Jay-Z & Cam'Ron, Nas should collaborate together for an full album that be dope for the fans........

[@guru_basketball_kiero]

Im a huge Jay fan. I'm a huge Cam'ron fan. I could picture Jay verse on Oh Boy being wakk 🤣

[@jerryallover4193]

Nah Jay probably crushed all of them and made it his song

[@kbtitan2464]

Nah Jay would go hard

[@mosescharles]

I wanna hear the Cam version of the now "H to the I.Z.Z.O." Kanye Beat. I also wanna hear the Jay Z verse on the "Oh Boy" Just Blaze beat....like RIGHT NOW!!! RELEASE THEM BEATS!!!

[@d2dar459]

Yeah. That beat sounds so... Camron-ish, I can imagine Jay just sounding weird on it.

[@pettymurphy2243]

"That's... snitching... snitching... not even dry snitching... Snitching...". Lmao

[@ljunyreona9882]

❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓▪︎▪︎▪︎▪︎

[@glockloverblockhugger23]

Grown man shit need more of it 🤝

[@ernestpinedo5131]

I literally just bout the purple haze on iTunes while watching this video

[@nickemangione]

The run cam had was incredible even without. Jay def held him back...at a minimum stagnated his progress. They dropped the ball with cam and juelz.

[@mizzymilesdancmc1270]

After they sold that last 50% to def jam, jay was like "I got a surprise for yall"😂😂😂😂😂, 🐍snnnnnaaaaaaakkkkeee! (Metal gear solid) voice 😂😂😂

[@brandonmanuel4866]

Purple Haze wuz dope

[@JohnDoe-cd6ro]

Was? Still is.

[@hghrmnds816]

Jay Z don’t want no one else to make it. You can tell

[@mark01332]

Can u do dame and jigga beef?

[@glorywilkerson23]

🗣Is it just me It sounds like Jay Z Just messed up everybody's career 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ smh Crabs in a Barrel

[@ayana188]

Except his wife

[@socialmediaego]

13:34 Jay knew Cam had the streets as well…

[@BigDyse]

I’m not Jay biggest fan, but he was smart not jumping on records that didn’t have any buzz yet on its own.. he wanted to have a perfect record in hip hop with no bum ass verses attached to his name

[@peachycalmable]

Jayz is all about jayz

[@kylegenaro4780]

Ego's are a problem

[@BGNADS]

I'm going to sit and wait for that Jay z dipset beef video. Jimmy had some good disses!

[@sambanelly4219]

3:30 CORRECTION. Its The Life and Times of S.Carter vol 3. In my lifetime is volume 1 and was released 2 years prior to volume 3.

[@leclercdarmand5202]

Hov is my #1 rapper of all time but 3 of my top 5 who are dead could've easily been bigger artists than HOV had they never died and also if Biggie had been a alive Hov wouldn't have beefed with as many people but I understand now that alot of the moves Hov made were to progress from the streets to the boardroom basically like some real life Power shit lol

[@ryanrayne5596]

What do u mean what happened to Cam’Ron? Cam has pretty much always been relevant and still makes fire music to this day

[@mvxxderxnxx3078]

U digg did you hear his new song 🔥😪 medellin

[@biglordebunnyrabbit627]

Jay has a govt informant working for him now. Un’s wife wore wires and all. Damn shame

[@demetrirhodriquez8282]

If J took a deal he just like 69

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

He took a plea, without dropping information bro...that is completely different than what you are saying

[@Tawknmysht]

@@edwinbetancourt3958 y respond? This guy nvr been n the system

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

@@Tawknmysht you right.

[@edwinbetancourt3958]

@Ra Swoosh really? So when I took my plea of guilty, I was diming someone???

[@JohnDoe-cd6ro]

Kids now a days be talkin' out they a__ .

[@quintintarantino2485]

@2:58 you got me to subscribe and received my respect ✊🏽...😄

[@AliTalksMusic]

Appreciate it man

[@100_Percent_PURE]

I remember when Cam used to be Charli Baltimore's hype-man

[@williamburney234]

They should just do a versus battle and get it over with

[@xbabygirltx]

Cam’s voice & style probably would have worked well with the Izzo beat. The vibe would have been very different though.

[@TomikaKelly]

AJ & Free 💕

[@hennynoirdesign]

13:12 ... Most Cam fans and Jay haters are usually the ones who don't now how business works in the record companies. Part of the sucker shit came from Blaze and Kanye. You can't give tracks to one artist and allow the other artist to take or strong arm you for it. Despite Jay's feud with Cam, he STILL provided that 6th signature without a problem. That came out of Cams mouth, so Y'all Jay haters stop reaching with the bull shit cause Y'all know Jay was the biggest artist on the roc.

[@hennynoirdesign]

@Bryan francis Your opinion, which you are entitled to..... My opinion, Swag always changes (look at dipset now. they got destroyed by D Block/ Lox who had less swag but better real music) but a business mindset will forever remain the same. I don't see no big business thinker ever "intimidated" by flash now but time changes swag. Cam had "all the swag" but limited business mindset of the record label game. I rather be in control of the of those "strong presence and swag" artists.

[@hennynoirdesign]

@Bryan francis ok

[@paulathomas5483]

So glad to see them put their beef behind them. It would be nice to hear them put something amazing out soon.🎶🤞 Hopefully he and Dash will get rid of their beef as well.

[@firemarshallbill4046]

Do you honestly think a worker could've had the Boss removed from a song clearly Jay let that slide for it was in his best interest for one whatever it sells Jay was go eat first regardless he had plans on trimming down the ROC anyway Same and Cam just made it easier

[@xperensdskateboards]

You gotta do a MAX B video the wavey surfer boss don bigavel

[@charlesrichardson2084]

Purple Haze is a classic

[@brokenfunnibones]

Nobody wuz stylin like killa

[@mr.muziik7529]

Ali that was the wrong song for dig a hole 🤣 but still great vid tho 😁👍🏽.

[@trafficjam.]

making them talk with their lips moving... looks kinda wack and creepy... a still shot is just fine

[@InspireRise300]

Damn I stop and think I got the whole New York wearing pink 🤫

[@jumbie4972]

The thing is they both bosses. Jayz wants to be the boss, but them times cam'ron was hungry as fuck those days. Jay was jealous as fuck, cam a real nigga and Harlem rides for him heavy. People over hype jay z, if you grew up in those times you know cam the man.

[@sergoldenhandthejust1495]

"they didn't appreciate it til the second one came out."-Hova

[@BrandonBenYosef]

Id rather dip and roc never got together then the way the relationship ended. It would be a power move wit jay to help get dip back as much as possible. There are internal issues tho also.

[@lewjones3]

Jay-Z known for doing wack features

[@ayana188]

😆😆😆

[@lewjones3]

@@ayana188 and I'm that as a Jay fan

[@Hanceear]

The Dame animation though.

[@zymeerwhitman8761]

Camron sound like 2pac a lot they Harlem Brothers

[@Jachimma]

Jay Z always plays so dirrty

[@villavelli]

Holy moly my roly poly a lowkey coke key

[@moussakane4469]

Cam is not from East harelm. Still a great video

[@bodegabullies3486]

West Harlem. 140th and Lenox. Building 100. 🌍