What Happened to @Carole_DBE? | Internet Mysteries

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

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[@Thedaytondigger]

Step on me euro mommy

[@sillyd0g]

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[@gemsierosie3591]

How have I only just today found you?!! I’ve been cramming your videos for 6 hours now 😂 I love your style. Easy to listen to, good pace, clear. Your research is amazing too. When I get paid I’ll do the tip thing! X

[@ellzrandom2392]

Hi, you should know that ambulatory wheelchair users exist.

[@doc_sav]

Imagine getting your hands amputated only to wake up to the doctor telling you that Dorrance stopped making stainless steel #5x hooks and they are no longer available.

[@absurdum-the-artist]

I’d be absolutely heartbroken

[@sleepy-fish]

@@absurdum-the-artistone might say heart-amputated

[@absurdum-the-artist]

@@sleepy-fish yeah

[@EmissaryofWind]

Time to break into Debbie's house and get the hooks. Just imagine the next time Debbie and Carole meet for coffee. "Oh, Debbie, I'm so sorry that happened to you and you had to get a different prosthetic. By the way, check out these new babies, they're definitely not your hooks tho."

[@andreabrava6899]

😂😂

[@snood4743]

The repeated “real BTE amputee” and “beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with Dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks” kind of strikes me as a fetish. I’ve seen similar repetitions in people roleplaying their specific sexual fantasies.

[@lurji]

gives me the same vibe as chris chan repeating his own full name and the full names of other people

[@annie_xo]

100% fetish

[@JimeLello]

It drives me nuts how she keeps writing it out. Sounds like OCD or Autism. With the whole sketchy fiancé has to be a fetish

[@khaightlynn]

Echolalia

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

Yes! Goodness!

[@KyuubiNoodleBear]

This sentence: "as a new teacher who not only is a very high myope who wears beautiful glasses with thick lenses" sounds just like someone writing a fantasy story about their ideal person.

[@milomassacre]

It is 100% fetish content written by a man

[@thebookwitch895]

I agree, it doesn't sound like someone describing themselves irl

[@BluetheRaccoon]

This guy is either obsessed with having a heavily-disabled woman reliant upon him, or wants to be one.

[@ekat1]

yes! It comes across as erotic fan fiction almost

[@JutlandAngel]

Whaaat? You don't talk about yourself like you're your ideal type?

[@sablecyan2517]

If I had to hear the "Dorrance 5X stainless steel hooks" line one more time I was about to be a Double Ear Amputee. Great video tho

[@TeddyLovesAxl]

Lol😂

[@JimeLello]

💯 it makes it hard to get through the video lol

[@katyinajam]

It’s my new meditation mantra

[@FyeRye]

Even as someone with deformed ears… and using a baha (hearing aid) I still couldn’t get away 😂😂 my Bluetooth also doesn’t help.

[@dangerousandy]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@carnespecter]

"beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with dorrance #5X stainless steel hooks” is absolutely going to be haunting me in my dreams tonight

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

#5X 😅

[@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9739]

I'm on board with the theory that "Carole" is Rob, and Rob in the "story" is his self-insert. This sounds like some male fantasy amputee fetish fanfiction through and through.

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

Agreed, I feel like the Debbie part is too suspicious. The whole thing just sounds like some guy writing a story about his dream amputee harem.

[@moderndaymedusa]

This was my first and only thought. It's always painfully obvious when fetish stories are written by men attempting a woman's pov. They get too uncomfortably descriptive, but only know about three adjectives. 😂

[@nomdeplume2213]

Hes a transcripple 😂 my mom was quadriplegic due to MS.... being disabled isn't something anyone wants to become....

[@nomdeplume2213]

​@@moderndaymedusaoh no, did it say moist, squirt and tight?!? 🤮 every male POV female fanfic is required to have those 3 or it magically gets deleted by the universe 😂

[@tikimillie]

Oh god, imagine if rob gets his wife in an accident for his fetish

[@EvieAvalon]

I can hear you almost laugh a little every time you have to recite "beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks" 😂😂

[@TheAtroxious]

I want to see a drinking game using this. Take a shot every time she says "beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with Dorrance #5X stainless steel hooks".

[@EvieAvalon]

@@TheAtroxious make sure you're drinking water! Stay hydrated over alcohol poisoning lmao

[@SoulxSpectre]

😂 I was trying not to laugh too! Dark as subject is, that one repeated sentence sent me 😂

[@beepboopboopbeep3]

Did she mention the "beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks" yet?

[@nonickname7808]

​@@TheAtroxious I literally came to comment this, great minds think alike

[@the_incoherent]

Imagine describing the devices that will serve as your NEW ARMS the way you'd describe a motorcycle customization. This was wild.

[@UwUImTheo]

Me when describing my fursona

[@katie_cant_compute]

@@UwUImTheo😭😭

[@Mellythagoat]

I just thought the samething😮 really crazy wow

[@russellst.martin4255]

You really lived up to your name on this one. If only we were able to find out what kind of hooks Carole wanted to get.

[@aqualms]

Or if she had any eye issues... well never know😢

[@matthewconner1071]

Everyone is always going on and on about how great Dorrance 5x stainless steel hooks are, so that's what I would suggest

[@b.solomon.israeli]

Thank you for this. I audibly laughed.

[@snarklar]

I'd go with titanium personally

[@MycelianNetwork]

She describes the arms she wants like Ralphie from A Christmas Story describing the red rider BB gun he wants

[@bryangarcia5599]

_'You'll chop your arm off!'_

[@khaightlynn]

"YOU'LL POKE YOUR EYE OUT!"

[@Andys61724]

Lol hahaha. U went there

[@mimirose1496]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was awesome

[@mikesanders8621]

This is a very sad and surprisingly common mental illness. People literally go to Mexico for illegal amputations.

[@D0ttorestestsubject]

Honestly the only thing keeping me thinking this wasn’t real was the freaking description of the arms. I wrote a paper on fetishes and went undercover on some sites and forums and that was EXACTLY how they described the object of their desires.

[@alicethemad1613]

I fully believe this is real tbh, and the constant reiteration of the very specific prosthetics might have been something Rob drilled into her. He may have talked constantly about the specific kind he wanted her to wear just like his ex because he was the one with the fetish, and she just internalized it.

[@bud521]

I'd actually love to read that paper People with extreme fetishes like this are so interesting to me cause like, why? How? I'd love to just sit down and talk with these people about it lol

[@lenaboyer6981]

I would also read that paper! What an interesting research project. Was the paper for school or work or what?

[@EmissaryofWind]

@@alicethemad1613 sometimes an extreme fetish can also bring people together. I obviously don't know the real situation, but I'm also wary of the assumption that a woman's fetish must have been imposed upon her by a man.

[@jackyfrom_usa522]

wtf

[@Behext]

I think it's a guy with a fetishistic fantasy that he's spent too much time fleshing out. She's his ideal girl: smart, kind, probably gorgeous, and she will have all the benefits of his fetish with none of the trauma of losing limbs in a real accident. He doesn't specify the details of how she would amputate her hands because that part of the fetish doesn't interest him. His additional stories have contradictory details because he plays around with the possibilities as he continues to entertain the fantasy. Eta: In light of the end section of the video, I would also be willing to believe that Carol herself is the author of this fantasy, which makes the fact that it didn't have a lot of sexual details make more sense. Not that women aren't sexual, obviously, but she doesn't seem to feel inclined to sexualize herself because that, too, may not be part of the fantasy that interests or empowers her.

[@truebornseeker9767]

It is possible that the real Carol and the Carol in the story are the same person, just with the ‘amputee wannabe’ parts are fiction, possibly written *by* Rob Rob clearly has a fetish for amputees, so it doesn’t seem beyond belief that *he* wrote the blogs about his girlfriend, Carol, who had chronic pain in her arms, which made him feel like it was possible to convince her (or fantasise about convincing her) to amputate them, he fantasised about her wishing to be amputated, etc and wrote it from her POV Tbh I can see all possibilities here being true- Carol writing the blog and being manipulated, rob writing it as a fantasy from the POV of his real girlfriend, Carol, Carol writing it as a fantasy

[@yup5053]

@@truebornseeker9767this is what i believe too!

[@wolfetteplays8894]

TERFism

[@ginger_nspice]

@@truebornseeker9767 This is my theory as well!

[@ctobolsk]

I am a BTK (below the knee) amputee. I have sympathy for people with BIID, but I also find them to be extremely frustrating. I have had so much trouble accessing services, as they are very limited where I live. I think people who choose this should be at the end of the line for these limited resources.

[@awfullyprettystorm]

So was my grandma

[@hicknopunk]

I can understand this through my type 1 diabetes. I live in a rural area with few resources and at times I get bothered because the masses of type 2 diabetes people competing for resources with me. Over the years I have come to understand that just because you do something to your body, doesn't mean you are a worthless person. I think it is the same with people who want to be disabled, you have to want diabetes to let yourself develop type 2.

[@ctobolsk]

@@hicknopunk what’s really stupid is that where I live is the suburbs of a major city! There’s tons of resources for seniors, but if you’re disabled and under 62, you’re screwed.

[@elen5871]

on the one hand, intellectually I understand these ppl are mentally ill and they don't really have control over this, and on top of that there aren't that many of them... but man lmao my ability to empathize is pretty limited when I just got denied for a new wheelchair for the _third time_ even tho mine's broken as hell and I need it to get _around,_ not get _off,_

[@baasparkopenings]

See, the thing is, I'd like to think people with BIID - who truly want to amputate their limbs or whatever other disability they want - would be completely fine with this. It'd root out fetishizers and leechers from getting these kinds of procedures done too. But if you put some sort of arbitrary diagnosis in place that means you don't get help for being disabled, people are either going to find their way around it to game the system or even worse the system could become so restrictive that it prevents actual amputees from getting help as well...

[@brokenfoxproductions]

So, I have BIID and I used to be obsessed with the idea of amputating my left leg (above the knee) and part of my left hand, though for me it came from a lot of untreated eating disorder issues, nerve damage, and gender dysphoria (basically because I couldn't feel those areas and I already don't like my chest or other curves, my brain tossed my leg and some fingers into the "not needed" bin in my brain). As someone who's been through the whole obsession and who's been in therapy, I'm pretty sure the person who wrote this is a fetishist, not a patient. Red flags for me: The ex girlfriend, Debbie. The "rapid onset" obsession. It doesn't usually work like that. Her age. She's old for this to be starting but young to be committing to it. (I was diagnosed at 14 and lost my diagnosis because of treatment at 21) The obsession on the specific prosthetic. Most people with BIID aren't into the prosthetics, it's about the actual feeling of your body. Like, I didn't care about prosthetics because I would have been happy just not having my lower leg. Wheelchair, crawling, on a peg, on a prosthetic.... I wouldn't have cared at the time. 8 inches below the elbow. That's a really specific measurement, but as someone with marfanoid features, I have to think that's longer than most women's forearms. My arms and hands are long, but I don't think I even have room for someone to chop my arms above the wrist and have it more than 7.5" from my elbows. Whoever wrote this is either really tall, has a connective tissue disorder causing marfanoid features, or they're full of shit. "I know just what to expect after surgery " no you don't lol surgeries go wrong constantly and they're serious, even in these kinds of communities. Why get wedding rings if you're going to have your hands removed? Why not a necklace set? Or something else? I think Rob wrote this for his spank bank because the idea of someone who would be willing to do this for him makes him "happy " in numerous ways.

[@cecilross2848]

Thanks for sharing your insight! It's really interesting to hear from someone who's actually been through BIID rather than people on this site fearmongering. I'm also really intrigued by the link between your BIID and gender dysphoria (as a trans and disabled person who's rather sympathetic to people with BIID, it's something I've thought about a connection between a lot!)

[@Yami-sx8qe]

Thank you for sharing and I hope you’re doing better now! 🫶

[@dazeslays]

@@cecilross2848 i am also trans and disabled, and although i don't have BIID, i'm sympathetic to people who do, and i have some thoughts about the whole thing i left in a different comment but can share here if you're interested

[@Tiggmuffin]

As someone with eds....I can't even imagine healing from something like this. Connective tissue conditions are so personally specific, I heal so slowly and almost always have something "go wrong"......so this kinda major injury is my worst fear!

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

Fantastic comment. I don't really know anything about BIID, but I saw a lot of the same red flags you did in spite of that. Everything about the story just feels like someone roleplaying a relationship as their own dream girlfriend.

[@ashmcewen5451]

at 11:23 you can see blog posts titled “i want hooks for hands like (blank)”. one of the names is mary vincent, who as a teenage girl was picked up hitchhiking by a man who raped her, cut off her arms and through her over a cliff and left her for dead. she miraculously was able to climb up the cliff and find help, and is now an amputee. i feel like this is evidence toward this being fiction, because i honestly can’t believe someone who sees amputees as more than a fetish would hear mary’s story would say something like that. i think if carole was a real person with biid she would hopefully have a bit more respect for someone she wished to be like.

[@ashmcewen5451]

@lostpelican1883 what’s even worse is that the perpetrator, lawrence singleton, only got 14 years and only had to serve 8 before being released for good behavior. he went on to murder a woman named roxanne hayes, though who knows how many victims there were that we don’t know about. this case is one of the few that really stick with me because of how absolutely atrocious it was.

[@WolfieRAWKs]

Mary's case has stuck with me. I believe it was an interview where she described how she managed to survive, and I was blown away by how she had the fortitude to shove her arms in the mud and pack her wounds with it, then walk for miles holding her arms up.

[@amp4105]

all in "gods plan" btw 😆

[@lenaboyer6981]

@@ashmcewen5451 And Mary Vincent returned to testify at his murder trial!! She is a certified badass who became an artist and victims’ advocate, customizes her own prostheses, and raised two kids.

[@munchmongoose]

I’m glad someone brought this up. Respect

[@zachariahpoltergeist4516]

If this was real, can you imagine how many people in her life would be like "Hey, Carol, if I chop off your hands right now, will you promise to SHUT UP ABOUT THE STUPID HOOKS?!!"

[@Jerry_the_Head]

this got me good

[@annie_xo]

This is not OCD or something like that, this is absolutely a fetish. And for some reason I feel like it’s a man writing all of this, not a young woman.

[@blossomentrails3398]

Women can have fetishes??? Even destructive and exploitative ones

[@khaightlynn]

Hard agree. I think it could be a fetishist who is also neurodivergent, given the repetition. Plus the coincidental ex who had an "accident with fireworks" is absolutely fetish. Just imagine. 😖 (He obviously does often)

[@mistydayremainsofthejudgment]

i remember feeling so intensely grossed out by this site not because i found the fetish so outrageous but because it was very clearly a dude pretending to be a woman with this fetish to make herself "helpless" and "disabled" in this really clumsy and objectifying way

[@annie_xo]

@@blossomentrails3398it’s not about the fetish, it’s something about the language. I can’t put my finger on it but it has a male vibe to me

[@khaightlynn]

​@@annie_xoit gives "bouncing down the stairs boobily"

[@lurji]

the way she went on about the hooks was completely insane

[@Sinc3r3ly]

Let’s not shame mentally ill people, you’re only making things harder for us.

[@lurji]

@@Sinc3r3lyi am mentally ill myself but k

[@Sinc3r3ly]

@@lurjidoesn’t matter lol. Calling another mentally ill person insane isn’t okay

[@lurji]

@@Sinc3r3ly i wasn't calling _her_ insane i was calling the way she meandered on about the hooks insane

[@zilaxia]

​@@Sinc3r3lyDude just stop. Mentally ill people genuinely dont give a fuck about the word "insane" or "crazy". Im mentally ill, its not a slur, its a word, and fun fact, the person writing that shit, is insane.

[@kmdiamond]

Mary Vincent tho - I can understand writing pages about her. She is truly amazing. She's a double amputee bc a man who had kidnapped, drugged, raped and tortured her hacked her arms off before throwing her down a hill. She survived in an amaaaaazing display of strength, by packing her stumps with mud to stop the bleeding, and had to keep stopping when she passed out, but eventually she made it back to the road and managed to make it up to the road. She got to stand in court and face him when he got convicted. She's actually amazing.

[@13fyrefli]

She’s amazing. The first time I heard her story I cheered when she faced him in court.

[@eliot.413]

Just to add: a good portion of wheelchair users can walk. over 30% if i remember correctly. just because a wheelchair user walks sometimes doesn’t mean their faking they’re just ambulatory. I’m an ambulatory wheelchair user due to a lot of combined conditions. ex: i will use my chair if i’m having a fainting day but i’ll use forearm crutches if my hip isn’t fully in socket as sitting in my wheelchair hurts if my hips not in place.

[@JLB0880]

Yep my grandmother could walk, but very short distances so anytime she wanted to go to the mall or Costco, I’d take her wheelchair for her.

[@dandarcy2539]

its a lot more, actually! about 70% to 75%, us ambulatory users are actually the majority

[@tinycatfriend]

i was born disabled and have C-PTSD from medical shit i went through. i have a lot of sympathy for people with BIID, because they didn't choose to have this illness either. it's hard to wrap my head around their longing to be physically disabled, and my knee-jerk reaction is to take offense. but mental illness is powerful and disabling just as much as physical disabilities are, so i examine my first impressions and remind myself of that. some of these people actually harm themselves to become disabled; is that not itself a disability? i do feel uncomfortable with people pretending to be disabled in public though, and relating it to being trans. i am trans, i really don't like that comparison!

[@andrewnovak1390]

To your last point, as a trans person it's so frustrating to hear the comparison to trans people in every conversation about BIID. There's mountains of research on trans people and transitioning and almost nothing about BIID and whether actually disabling the person will cure their distress, so the comparison is just so dishonest

[@xx_asche_zu_asche_xx]

I'm trans too and even though I feel for people with BIID, I'm so sick of people comparing us with them and using that comparison against us. It's really harmful and i wish people would be more educated on why those are different things.

[@Valerie-nm1gr]

@@xx_asche_zu_asche_xx OK, but for people just browsing this thread, why exactly IS it that BIID is "fake" and "wrong" and "not valid," whereas being transgender is "real" and "legitimate?" As on onlooker it seems like people are just dismissing the comparison outright as though it should be obvious, but it really isn't. So far the only real evidence anybody (@andrewnovak1390) has given to explain this is that there isn't currently any research into BIID, and that more research about transgenderism exists which legitimizes the latter. But that doesn't seem like a reason to believe BIID is fake, just a reason to support there being more research into it so we CAN come to conclusions about it. If we don't know much about it, then why shouldn't we keep our minds open instead of dismissing it on the grounds of "well, there's no research"? Once upon a time, research about transgenderism didn't exist either, but that didn't mean being trans was fake, just that it was poorly understood back then. Theoretically, if there WAS a large-scale medical study where they gave people with BIID the kinds of surgeries that they claimed to want, and studied their outcomes to find it was a long-term positive impact for them, would that make you re-evaluate your current beliefs about it?

[@torakokoneko]

The comparison to transness was originally made by trans people who also had BIID, it's not like cis people just made up the comparison

[@involith]

@@torakokonekowhile that makes sense, theres definitely cis people who use this descriptor as well. plus, even if a trans person is the one calling themselves 'trans bodied', thats still..... horrid. all of the issues associated to any specific gender identity are rooted in how society views and treats them, meanwhile disabilities arent just a matter of accessibility, but missing things that humans have for basic function; top surgery to remove breasts wouldnt impact someones ability to do basic tasks like button their clothing or writing with a pencil. i understand if a trans person makes the comparison, but its still a gross one to make as theres a massive difference between gender identity and disability status (i dont say any of this to be rude towards you and im sorry if i sound like that!! moreso im just frustrated as a trans person that the comparison exists even if by other trans people, and i can imagine disabled trans people wouldnt hold a favorable view of this comparison either)

[@AnklesSideEye]

This is so bizarre...OP sounds like those men who write fetish fanfics about anorexic girls and keep obsessively reusing describers and phrases...this is a fetish

[@shark_kisses5153]

Omg, that’s a thing?! Ewwwee

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

@@shark_kisses5153 If there's one thing the internet has taught me, it's that pretty much everything can be a fetish. It runs the gamut from the most depraved things imaginable all the way to completely mundane non-sexual things. People are weird.

[@jkdi2235]

​@@shark_kisses5153it absolutely is lol. Of Herbs and Altars has 2 videos about it. the first one is very objective and kinda hilarious at points bc he reads through a forum, the second one is fucking heartbreaking and a personal account from a viewer after the first vid. I'd really recommend it if you have any interest in paraphilias. it's unfortunately a very real thing, disturbingly enough.

[@Taybrian1]

Yeah, I don't think there is a Carole or Debbie. I think there is only Rob and he's writing this. I think it's all a weird fantasy of his and he never found anyone to actually go along with it.

[@p4ngolin]

I was thinking this sounds oddly specific and sounds like rob is projecting his fetish onto an avatar (maybe carole is based on a real person) and writing in the point of view of said avatar. I was hoping it wasnt a case of the guy projection onto a real person he knows personally and chopping some poor unsuspecting girl's arms

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

@@p4ngolin It's definitely not, and I think the conclusions reached in this video are totally wrong. Carole says on the blog that she herself is attracted to amputated women, and that factoid was completely disregarded from the conclusion in the video in favor of the "Carole exists and Rob forced it all on her" conclusion. I feel like the Debbie part is what makes it most obvious that it's all a guy writing fetish stories. The idea that a woman who has this very specific amputation obsession and fetish happens to meet a guy who has an ex with the exact same amputation is too coincidental.

[@Akasha6915]

@@firstnamelastnamesb it's more that factoid of Carole being attracted to amputated women is Rob saying he's attracted to amputated women through the avatar of Carole. The factoid isn't disregarded but rolled into this is Rob in his spank bank material. Just fetish guys prefer the idea of a women saying it rather than reading about this fantasy from another man.

[@mysticalmagicalmisato]

i kinda started to narrow my eyes when i realized dbe could be read as debbie

[@serena841]

😮

[@NotesFromTheVoid]

If we assume Rob is a real person, it is fairly normal to break up with someone who you dated in university. Even if they were engaged, "my shitty boyfriend is trying to convince me to cut off my hands" is a good reason to call off an engangement, or divorce if it goes that far.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

People don’t “wake up” that quickly. That’s a Hollywood stereotype

[@xzwf]

she's basically giving whoever wrote this fetish story a free audiobook version of it😭

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

And earworm 😂

[@daintybeigli]

As someone who has struggled with mental health and is now physically disabled, I really feel for people with BIID. I can’t imagine feeling that a part of my body is so incredibly wrong. What a difficult issue.

[@OkinoMuse]

Definitely a male fantasy fetish story. It really sounds like a role play Being obsessed with woman with disabilities is totally this guys fetish and wished for a girlfriend who would be friends with his ex who happens to be an amputee. It just feels too unrealistic in my opinion. Most people don't wish to be besties with their partners ex. Feeling encouraged to be like his ex also just comes off as wrong, and makes me truly think the guy just wanted his fantasy to come true

[@yaama4868]

Did you watch the whole video? The coincidences with this Carole and the Carole she found match. Even her partner has "robs" last name!

[@fistdantilus9916]

Not done watching this video, but this reads EXACTLY like DeviantArt fetish stories. I came across one similar to this featuring the actress who plays Penny on The Big Bang Theory.

[@TheQueenOfSheba]

Glad you pointed out the fiancé possibly having being the root of this. Of course she’s got the issue, but I think he’s very strongly influencing what she wants.

[@EmiDam]

It worries me that she wanted to teach. Makes me feel icky that she wanted to teach disabled children knowing that it was her choice to do this to herself.

[@riomadre]

There's a book called "The Amok Journal (Sensurround Edition)" that I read in college. It explored dark psychology subjects like self trepanation, self mutilation, and auto erotic asphyxiation. One of the chapters was also on the psychological condition called apotemnophilia, which is the desire to be an amputee, or the sexual desire/ fetishization of amputees. Absolutely fascinating, but also usually ends tragically. The person would often become so determined that they'd shoot their leg off or damage their limb in gruesome ways.

[@amp4105]

she should make a vid about this book

[@jac2631]

Beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with Dorrance 5x stainless steel hooks

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

🤣🤣 thank you for the tip! 🖤

[@marketinkakopretinka]

“i felt a huge weight has been lifted off of my shoulders” - girl that’s your arms

[@ChrisJones-lc1ti]

Hearing "beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with dorrance #5X stainless steel hooks” so many times just feels like a fetishistic personal creative writing passion project.

[@demonboy4503]

My sister was born with one arm missing as a birth defect. She utilized a “hook” type prosthetic arm. I think the hook type is probably the more affordable type covered by insurances and so therefore more frequently seen.

[@JustNormalGamers]

I agree with the theory of creative writing. I enjoy writing also and I have inserted myself in to some quite weird fictional situations. Luckily they never made it to the internet.

[@BarelySociable]

I ended up finding the woman who made this blog awhile back. Was almost 100% it was her from the OSINT stuff I was looking at I reached out to her and she denied making the site. She had all of her limbs btw

[@thestraydog]

Damn really?? There are a ton of people here in the comments who believe that it is a fetish blog written by a man instead, and it honestly sounds the most plausible to me. How were you able to find the lady??

[@Neechiemoose102]

How are you sure that the woman who denied making the site and still has all her limbs is Carol from this story? 🤔

[@b1ff]

@Neechiemoose420 They say how in the 2nd sentence. 😊👍

[@doc_sav]

My man.

[@paranoiarpincess]

I was not only born with a disability that since giving birth has degenerated my body, mostly arms and legs, to the point where I mostly bedridden with a wheelchair for when I _do_ need to go out, but over the last 5 years I have developed 3 MORE autoimmune diseases on top of the initial Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. So, I am exactly the person who is eligible to say whether this is a bane to other people with disabilities and although it is rather aggrivating to see someone who can use their arms whenever they want, want to put a stop to that themselves for what my peronal mental abilities have me convinced is absolutely ridiculous, the mental issues I do have, have me sympathetic toward her and her struggle. My final thought, through the lense of someone who is not only pretty darned disabled, but looks through the scope of being on quite a bit of government assistance, is that although I do worry about finite resources, I don't fully discredit her mental disorder. All that said, I think there is so much more I would love to see her try before taking such an extreme, and if nothing else works, it would be nice if she could get assisstance as to do such a thing the least dangerous way possible. That said, I'm not sure I would agree with Dr. Assisted harm. There's just something that feels malicious with that. Either way, I would hope first step was a therapist. I also get the feeling she either has a crush on her fiance's ex, or is more obsessed with the hooks than she is with actually wanting the amputation. She talked about those things like some people talk about new purses, or cars.

[@order3457]

i have RA too, to me this is insane and ignorant. ppl cant imagine how horrible being disabled is until they are in the situation themselves.

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

I'm only 5:17 into the video, and I'm already 100% convinced that this is just someone with a fetish roleplaying. The stuff about "Debbie" is way too coincidental to be legit. Someone has an obsession with amputees, and just happens to find out that their fiancee's ex is an amputee, and everything about them lines up perfectly with the person's obsession? Stuff like that just doesn't happen, lol.

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

Got to the end of the video, and I definitely disagree with the conclusions. Blaming it all on the evil fiancee and buying that "Carole" is a real person just because a Facebook mentioned having chronic pain and wears glasses just doesn't feel correct to me. Carole said on the blog that she finds female amputees attractive, and you seem to have completely disregarded that in your conclusion. If she does exist, she clearly had the fetish, it wasn't all "Rob". In either case, "Debbie" definitely wasn't real, and I'm kinda flabberghasted as to why you actually believed she exists.

[@no_peace]

I don't know anything about this specific thing but it wouldn't be a coincidence that he met two women who have a relationship to amputation. In 2001 there were about a billion unregulated niche social media sites. There was a yahoo chat room for everything

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

@@no_peace Rob meeting an amputee and a wannabe amputee aren't the coincidental part. The coincidental part is Carole getting with a man who was previously with a woman who happened to have the exact kind of amputation Carole is obsessed with. Unless there happened to be this incredibly specific amputee fetish community that hyperfixated on "real BTE amputees with Dorrance 5x stainless steel hooks" just like Carole is, it's a little too coincidental for this to have happened. This is the entire problem with the "Rob forced it all" conclusion. All of it ignores the fact that Carole is the one who presents herself as having this fixation. Not Rob, Carole.

[@amyj4811]

@@firstnamelastnamesbI found the Carole she’s talking about & yeah it’s definitely her lol. She said after her 1st year of college, frustrated with her chronicles w/ chronic pain & no answers, that she wrote a huge manifesto. Well… her husband typed it for her. she said, because she couldn’t do much typing due to pain. A huge part of her blog is about chronic pain & one of her other posts is also about being “disabled enough”. She’s also poly. Writing styles are also similar. But she seems to be living a joyous life

[@Chillybara]

Here's my theory TBH: Rob made the blog. Rob had the fetish, and wanted to push this onto his new partner. It's written too perfectly. My guess is Carole found the blog and told him to take it down.

[@19moswald.osley93]

watching your channel since the beginning, its so wholesome to see how much time you put into your work. Thanks for the late night surprise. :)

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Thanks for your support! 🥰

[@khaightlynn]

Such wholesome content! 😅

[@carlymizzou]

OMG if someone said they counted the number of times she said “a real dbe amputee” and that it was in the thousands, I would not question them.

[@notcomfortable_here]

kink shaming can be a good thing sometimes.

[@pleromagalvan]

This is definitely a fetish thing. As someone with BIID, it’s a very different thing.

[@hmfomtcow]

my theory is that "Rob" ran the sites under her name (prob without permission), dated her knowing she had chronic pain and planned on manipulating her into amputation being the only option, failed, and she took the site down and broke up with him after shed found out. And in his writing used a pseudonym instead of his own name to protect himself down the line in his "plan".

[@Mia-tz9hc]

Jesus, that’s absolutely insane but makes a lot of sense.

[@AnUndeadMonkey]

It really puts me in mind of the David Cronenberg film "Crash" as well.

[@crazydiamond119]

Yes!! I thought the same exact thing, omfg.

[@bon-jovian]

FUN DRINKING GAME! take a shot every time you hear "Dorrance #5X stainless steel hooks" Genuinely though its hilarious how oddly specific Carol is about the prosthetics she wants. I know its most likely OCD but oh my god 😂 (Edit: got to the conclusion that this might be a fictional thing but still, the oddly specific prosthetic choice is still funny to me. and DO NOT ACTUALLY MAKE THAT A DRINKING GAME)

[@bryangarcia5599]

For the love of God, folks, do _not_ play that drinking game, or you could wind up like Ernest Hemingway - you know, the guy who wrote _A Farewell to Arms._

[@annie_xo]

I played that game and passed out on my arms so the blood circulation was cut off. Now I have beautiful twin body-powered prosthetic Dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks instead of hands. 10/10 would recommend.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

🤣 Disclaimer: Drinking game may end in accidental amputation.

[@khaightlynn]

​@@bryangarcia5599💀👌

[@sparkyspark964]

@@bryangarcia5599lol! ❤

[@Toddhund]

i really feel for people with BIID as i got a taste of what it feels like last year. i had one of those dreams that spans over a long period of time, a few years in this case. at some point i had an accident, i don't remember what it was, but it resulted in my lip cut totally open and a deep laceration up onto my cheek. as the dream went on for years i healed and recovered, with scarring and nerve damage. when i woke up i immediately felt weird, since my actual face hadn't suffered that trauma. i thought about it for about a month or two straight. feeling wrong, like it was supposed to be there. i would just touch at my lip often, bewildered by the feeling i had that i didn't in the dream. i was also struggling quite badly with sh at the time, and over the months considered replicating the injury a few times, but never actually did anything. i still feel a little weird now, but the storm has passed. i only think about it occasionally, and am more confused by the fact i still remember what the physical sensation was in my dream from over a year ago.

[@killian_reid]

The way the blog entries are written definitely sounds like someone with an amputee fetish doing creative writing. It tracks with ones i've come across. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Rob writing all this because he fantasized about his girlfriend becoming an amputee after hearing her talk about the arm pain.

[@hellazest]

this is 99.9% a man roleplaying out his amputee fetish fantasy, there's a particular pattern you pick up in the language/how the condition is described (ex: the hyperfixation on the hook type prosthetics, this is super common). the first thing that immediately pinged me as this being a fetish was the detail about "Carole" being myopic and having to wear big plastic glasses with thick lenses, after that i basically had a good idea of how the rest was going to go

[@jeremysmith4620]

That thumbnail is pure magic.

[@dremora2232]

You mean the body operated prosthetics with Dorrance 5X Steel hooks?

[@omniscientbarebones]

You could almost imagine being in a hospital room in English controlled Cypress reaching up off the floor to flower petals of the last star of Bethlehem.

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@dremora2232 Why yes, how could you guess I was speaking of the body operated prosthetics with Dorrance 5X Steel hooks? The body operated prosthetics with Dorrance 5X Steel hooks are the most aesthetic prosthetic, by far. When I think prosthetics, I think body operated prosthetics with Dorrance 5X Steel hooks.

[@jeremysmith4620]

@@omniscientbarebones It is like staring into the face of god and then having him smile and wave back at you with a pair of body operated prosthetics with Dorrance 5X Steel hooks.

[@omniscientbarebones]

@@jeremysmith4620 did you not get the reference?

[@ImTheMarchetti]

Another possibility - she went through with the amputation but couldn't type an update due to her now missing hands. Hindsight is 20/20

[@adrianah151]

No, she has both her hands and she is doing pretty well, might be a project of hers since she is curently a writer or maybe her fiancee wrote all of this since the details are very accurate

[@p0ssum798]

I don't think it'd be OCD (I have OCD btw) because most compulsions are not enjoyable or fun. They only relieve stress. This seems like the individual is extremely excited to become a voluntary amputee (a fetish). I have harm OCD and my thoughts about harming myself/others are not enjoyable to me. This feels very different.

[@jettanyx1]

I’m really worried about her plan of being a teacher to exceptionally disabled children while exceptionally disabled herself. I can tell you now this won’t work out. This all really feels like a fantasy fiction

[@g.yad.4758]

i scrolled through the comments and now i think the most plausible explanation is 1) carol was real 2) did have chronic forearms pain 3) did date rob-the-fetishist-creep 4) who wrote those stories from her POV in secret 5) and broke up with him when she found out, forcing him to nuke the blog

[@externaldriver]

Twist: this whole thing was an advertisement campaign for Dorrance No. 5x stainless steel hooks.

[@Kainlarsen]

"Look Pim, I know it's our job to help this woman, but I think this woman's a lost cause..."

[@AccidentallyOnPurpose]

I don't feel she has BIID. She seems too concerned with prosthetics rather than the amputation itself. She has never indicated that she felt like her limbs weren't part of her body and they were wrong and needed to be removed.

[@firstnamelastnamesb]

Yeah, it really feels more like a fetish for prosthetic arms than it feels like BIID or just an amputation fetish. You can see it just by comparing the amount of times the prosthetics are mentioned and how they're constantly detailed, against how the significance of actually being amputated is downplayed. Like, one of the only issues Carole mentions that the amputation would cause would be not being able to wear contacts, but that's immediately spun as a positive and tied into the fixation on "plastic thick rimmed glasses" that was also brought up numerous times.

[@JK-gm6kk]

It's like how chris chan idealizes a bf free girl. The red rider bb gun comparison is good too. compaass in the stock, etc

[@teo-i2c]

Yeah that definitely sounds like a fetish story. I could believe that she is a real person writing a fictional story about herself but it sound a lot more like it's written by a man. The way she often wrote specifically "amputee woman" sounds way more like a fetish stuff written by a man.

[@funnyfish660]

I love how much research you did on this video, while still respecting the privacy of the Carol you found.

[@quarkmolotov1049]

I have chronic pain issues and as soon as you mentioned the carole that you found on Facebook talking about her own chronic pain issues it just made a lot of sense to me. Now obviously i can't speak for everyone with chronic pain but in my case i mainly have leg, hip and back pain with the most severe flare ups of pain being in my legs and hips. On particularly bad days I'll catch my self vaguely imagining what if i didn't have legs simply because I'm so tired of the chronic pain that my brain briefly convinces itself that it would be better to have no legs rather than this constant pain. Again I'm not sure if others with chronic pain have similar experiences to that but i feel like Caroles writing could possibly be interpreted as an outlet for thoughts similar to that. However with the way it reads I would go with someone having a stream of consciousness type outlet for a fetish or someone desperately trying to cope with their disorder rapidly worsening.

[@nicelyppppppp]

i listened to deadwingdork talk about the wannabe amputee community and it’s also interesting hearing him cover this as a person with a hook prosthetic

[@p4ngolin]

Yes but is it a dorrance #x5 hook

[@earthwormjim91]

@@p4ngolin lol!

[@sberky98]

@@p4ngolin stainless

[@Leola_2001]

What is the video/VoD where he talks about it? It sounds interesting, but I don't see it on his channel (on KZbin).

[@nicelyppppppp]

@@Leola_2001 it’s the “amputee roast amputee kink community” stream. he doesn’t specifically talk about this case but he talks about many others

[@KAGdesignsDOTnet]

I swear I'll be hearing “beautiful twin body-powered prostheses with Dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks” in my sleep tonight

[@sadpool]

i've had the longest day and just got home but honestly seeing a new upload from you took all my exhaustion away - let's go!!!

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

I hope it's a better end to your day! :) 🖤

[@sadpool]

@@TheInternetInvestigator thank you 🖤 i just finished the video and you did a wonderful job as always 🙏🏻 can't wait for the next one, i hope you have a great week!

[@CandGoods]

The part with the fantasy of the "accident" just brings to mind the scene of Ash Williams sawing his own hand off from Evil Dead 2, which also makes me think, why go with the Dorrance #5 Stainless Steel Hooks when she coulda one-up'd ol Ashy Slashy with TWO chainsaw-hands?

[@HesGotaGun505]

I’m seriously on the fence as to whether Rob and Debbie are both real people. Maybe it’s a coincidence, but Debbie is essentially DBE phoneticized.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

👏🏻

[@punyparkerr]

hopefully im early enough to let the uploader know i love their accent. it makes me more attentive to what they’re saying and how they say it than i would with narrators with other accents. im from california so to me i “don’t have an accent” which is obviously stupid but it’s how my pea brain operates okay.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Thank you!! Glad you like it 🥰

[@Dark_Peace]

I wish you'd have said "this video is sponsored by beautiful twin body powered prosthesis with Dorrance 5X stainless steel hooks"

[@velveetaenthusiast]

The hooks. The 5x hooks. The dorrance ones. Holy cow

[@imaferretmaster]

You know, before this video I didn't know what body powered twin prosthesis with Dorrance 5X stainless steel hooks were, and now I don't think I'll ever fucking forget what they are.

[@sirpsychosecksi4953]

take a shot every time she says "real DBE amputee"

[@O7iver]

Maybe she never updated because she couldn’t type with her new beautiful twin body powered prostheses with dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks

[@Riley-ow8ok]

i thought this too i mean it must be pretty difficult to type such a lengthy story with her new beautiful twin body powered prostheses with dorrance #5x stainless steel hooks.. (this quote will be haunting me in my dreams tonight i fear)

[@RileyGein]

One thing that didn’t get discussed is that Mary Vincent -one of the women listed in the “I Want Hooks For Hands Just Like…” posts- was SA’d repeatedly and then brutally attacked by Lawrence Singleton in which he amputated her arms using a hatchet. I haven’t looked up the other women but found the Mary Vincent thing a bit disturbing

[@janerecluse4344]

I want to be like Mary Vincent: AN UNSTOPPABLE BADASS

[@Fireprincess161]

If she had chronic pain I could kind of understand, and even relate, this fantasy tbh. I had chronic pain in my hand for 2 years with doctors telling me it was all in my head until one good doctor got a bunch of tests and went 'hey, so you're right, and you currently have an infection in your bone because everyone basically ignored you'. Up until the point there was an answer and an out of the pain I genuinely wondered if losing my hand would bring relief. Years of hurting if I moved my hand wrong. Hurting if I accidentally knocked it. Years of hurting if my hand slipped slightly while moving a blanket or getting dressed. Years of not being able to draw or write or game without crying (it was my dominant hand and those are my hobbies). Feeling like a failure because my partner had to do so much for me, I refused to give up cooking but I couldn't cut things properly, he had to cut up my food like a child, do up my bra (which after a few months I just gave up on), I had to learn to use my left hand for everything.

[@GameBearCartridge]

so sorry you went through all that. you didn't deserve to be dismissed by so many doctors without even trying. hope you're doing better these days

[@arandomidiot1593]

I have joint hypermobility of some sort. Doctor wasn’t very specific with me. My sister may have hEDS, I don’t think I do but whatever I have is a pain in the ass. I’ve had trouble with my right wrist for as long as I can remember, it’s why I can barely handwrite, but starting in 2020, *something* happened and now my right leg and arm are affected as well. Random throbbing pains in my arm and ankle. My kneecap slides out of place when I walk and it hurts and the awful *click* as it moves makes me sick, and some days it just hurts to walk and it flares up and down at random and seems to only be getting worse. I’ve definitely daydreamed about having my leg removed as well and I know it’s wrong but I just want that awful sensation in my knee to go away.

[@arandomidiot1593]

On a similar note, when I first hit puberty, I had no idea that transgender people existed or what gender dysphoria was, but I did know that I hated my chest, not helped by how much back pain it caused me. And I used to fantasize about *getting breast cancer* just so I could have a mastectomy. I was like 12 and had no idea that top surgery or reductions were an option, but I wanted my chest gone so badly.

[@Fireprincess161]

@@GameBearCartridge Thank you, luckily I am. I was able to take antibiotics for about 6 months, so it wasn't hospital bad. It's such a relief to not be living every day in agony but it's completely changed my perspective on the world.

[@Moonzari]

As someone who lost my mobility 5 years ago and didn’t have a say in the matter, I find this stuff to be very offensive. I understand it’s a mental disorder, but I cannot fathom anyone wanting to live this way. It is exhausting and isolating. These people want to “embrace the difficulties”? Are they ready to be exhausted, run down, struggling in a world that is extremely in accommodating to people in chairs, etc. Having a disability isn’t a fashion statement. I have medical PTSD from what I went though and I’m still struggling through it in therapy. I know these people are also struggling but it’s all outrageous to me.

[@milknhoneyhoney]

100% agree. I became disabled at 12, I’m now almost 26. I wouldn’t wish this life on anyone, and it’s pretty horrifying that anyone would *want* to live like this

[@ValariaJet]

People with BIID have a disability. As someone who's been disabled - physically and mentally (pain and memory loss) - since I was a preteen, the idea that someone would be MORE COMFORTABLE living with a disability is proof of how awful life must be for them. Yes, it sucks that they are choosing to be disabled when I can't choose to be fully abled, but I can't let my emotions sour my opinion. These people live in such severe turmoil from their abled bodies, that they will risk their lives to become disabled. We need to have more empathy for them. Do I want an able body? Yes. Can I let that cloud my judgement of another person's mental illness? No. They often are profoundly disabled by BIID, just like anyone else with a mental health disability.

[@ValariaJet]

Also, this blog is almost certainly fetish content. So don't let that cloud your judgement of people with BIID.

[@Moonzari]

@@ValariaJet Agree to disagree. Good for you for taking the moral highground. Still think it’s offensive.

[@ValariaJet]

@@Moonzari Agree to disagree, 100%. You have good reason and complete right to your views. It's a nightmare topic and you made your point very well. (I really don't have your skill in brevity!) My disability was not recognised as a health issue (and was still called "hysteria", to add insult to injury), when I was born in the 90s. I could very easily be lumped in with "fakers". I didnt get a diagnosis until I was already an adult, having suffered for a decade because of a lack of knowledge and research into my condition - but at least, there was a diagnosis to give me. If I had been born 20 years earlier, I would have been seen as an attention seeker or faker - all because there wasn't the research at the time. I can't help but see parallels between my health problems and their psychological problems.

[@JutlandAngel]

My theory is that Rob's ex broke up with Rob after finding out he was only into her because she was an amputee. Then Rob got together with Carole and started fantasizing about her becoming an amputee and started writing the whole story about Carole_DBE, Carole found out, got creeped out and broke off the engagement. Going on to live her own life and leaving Rob to his own fantasies. Hell Rob and Carole might not even have been a couple and he started writing about a classmate/friend he was interest in.

[@LazyCatIsFat]

Imagine if the hooks weren't stainless steel. God, what a nightmare.

[@faithm6983]

Plot twist- this was all guerilla advertising by the company that make Dorrance #5x Stainless Steel Hooks

[@jac2631]

This is my new favorite KZbin video of all time. I cant help it, the whole thing is hilarious. The repitition the monotone voice, its a masterpiece

[@danadecker4855]

The Carole may be real, but i have a feeling Rob just encorporated her into his weird fantasy. The pain in her arm might have been the little spark that inspired him. The fact that you could track down Carole and not Rob, reinforces it for me

[@chilibeer3912]

I hope she decided what kind of prostheses she wanted after all.

[@cheezkid2689]

this is totally a fictional fetish story. the constant repetition of "real DBE amputee" and "dorrance 5x stainless steal hooks" and other specific terms makes it seem absolutely like a fetish, and it probably wasn't written by carole. my theory is that, assuming the story is as it was presented, "rob" used a fake name for himself and tried to push carol into amputating her arms due to the pain she had. she was (naturally) incredibly uncomfortable with this and broke it off with him, and he deleted it after they broke it off either because she demanded that he do or because he felt it was appropriate to delete it after that.

[@emilyexplosion9120]

The text also reminds me of a series of phone calls I took from a woman when I worked in a hospital laboratory, where she was concerned about having a specific kind of endocrine system tumor and was wanting to discuss testing for Bence Jones protein. Every time that she spoke of the tumor or the test she would say the entire phases, never opting for simply calling it "the tumor" or "the test." After the third call I spoke to my supervisor and found that two other people had spoken to her as well, and that risk management had been contacted. She said the woman had an autism spectrum disorder, and that it was thought to be an OCD issue. Soon her account had a permanent note saying all contact should be referred to a specific case manager.

[@emilyexplosion9120]

And maybe Rob seeks out people with OCD issues on purpose and grooms them to want his specific fetish hooks.

[@eden.nd.]

Maybe a hot take but as someone who is disabled (ambulatory wheelchair user) I don't think badly of people with biid trying to change their body (though I don't think they should actually get it). They *are* disabled, they deserve support and community as well as appropriate treatment (with mental health services, not surgery). I sympathise with her, and I hope she's ok.

[@dazeslays]

i'm also disabled (ehlers-danlos syndrome) and i agree that people with BIID need support. it's sad to see it reduced down to "some weird fetish thing" or "they just want to be disabled so their lives are easier" (lmfao, i fucking wish). it truly seems like it's a form of body dysmorphia, and while i'm not sure how it should be treated, i know it SHOULD be treated, because clearly these people are suffering

[@allmylovers1]

Other theory - some stalkers create stories about idolized versions of their objects of desire. Rob could be true author, imagining Carol as his ideal amputation-obsessed partner.

[@kleverrenaeme3538]

I'm only 15 minutes in, but I have to agree with other people on this sounding like a fetish roleplay story. This is exactly how I see extreme fetishists talk about their specific niche fetish. For examples look up "delitized pikachu" (warning it is fucking baffling and weird). Like someone else pointed out, this "Carole" character sounds like it was invented by this Rob guy as a way to praise himself and indulge in his fetish.

[@sillyd0g]

kofi member here. i'm just gonna repost the comment i left on the uncut version. imo this blog was never written by carole at all. "rob" is the self insert character (or possibly just actual name) of the guy writing the blog, which he was using as some kind of outlet for his disability fetish. carole could have been his fiancee irl, but she could potentially also be a coworker, classmate, or friend he became infatuated with. maybe he heard her discussing her chronic forearm pain and began fantasizing about grooming her to become his ideal amputee girlfriend. he used her real name which is why the carole you found has so many similarities to dbe carole, but the relationship either ended badly or never actually existed, which is why you couldn't find anyone even tangentially related to someone with rob's name via carole's social media interactions. either she cut him and his family out of her life entirely when they broke off the engagement (or divorced, if they did go through with the marriage) or the engagement was purely part of rob's fantasy version of carole. i say he has disability fetish and not specifically an amputee fetish because dbe carole seems pretty fixated on her myopia and the glasses she wears because of it, and she kinda fawns over this idea of not only being disabled but also teaching disabled children. even carole being autistic could be a factor in rob's attraction to her (though just to clarify, as an autistic person myself, i don't mean to imply that i think autistic people would only be attractive to someone with a disability fetish. i just mean that it's not out of the realm of possibility for someone to have a specific thing for autistic women.) i know it's kind of an out there theory but hearing you read out the blog posts, i couldn't shake the feeling that it reads like highly specific fetish content. especially with the photos of other female amputees all over the blog and the fact that dbe carole constantly reiterates that she's fascinated with "woman amputees" specifically.

[@amp4105]

could just as easily be a woman

[@LikaLaruku]

I'm just sitting here picturing Captain Hook as a double-amputee, typing that substantial wall of text one letter at a time, with the other hook on the backspace button.

[@Syrnbjorn]

SHE WENT CYBER PSYCHO.

[@altega]

with the repetition my first thought was that she could be autistic tbh. its something i know i did a LOT as a kid and ill notice myself doing it still from time to time and im on the spectrum myself. more specifically, if i REALLY wanted something as a kid it would consume me. and id always use the entire full specific name every single time id talk about it. which, at the time, it was the rescue pets swim to me puppy. that little dog robot that will swim when you put it in water. recently it was a specific mechanical keyboard. idk if this is something thats common with other autistic folks but the repetition of the specific hook model just struck me more as autism rather than ocd. sometimes expressing how you feel about a very specific Thing, be it a toy dog or the entire concept of removing your arms an inch above your wrists in a planned accident, isnt really fully possible. we already tend to feel like we feel way more than non autistics, so i think part of it is your brain kicking in like. this person doesnt seem to be as excited as i am about The Thing. i was expecting a reaction and maybe a way to express that excitement for The Thing with another person. i have more thoughts in my head about The Thing. and clearly the solution is to just say the entire time of The Thing i want every time i say it. maybe its a way to get out pent up excitement in a non physical way, maybe its a stim. who knows. either way this was pretty interesting. i do definitely think this is real rather than a guy roleplaying as a girl who wants an amputation as a fetish. or even anyone with a fetish. maybe rob, considering his ex having the exact same condition and prosthetics that his new girlfriend suddenly wants. its not that far fetched of a situation, ESPECIALLY considering the age gap here.

[@makarambles]

I think the video is definitely a fetish but as an autistic person myself I TOTALLY understand The Thing, for me right now its mopeds/scooters, which is a tad out of my computer-related special interests and my brain is just BUZZING TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN Like should I get the Amigo Belliago 150 or maybe the Genuine Buddy 150 🥺 I'm already dropping $350 USD on a motorcycle class to get the license and probably another $200 on the helmet 🙃 and I haven't even chosen a scooter let alone ordered it

[@notsuicidaljustdiecurious5155]

I felt similarly. I'm autistic and have echolalia/echographia and used to write like that a lot. I still do but I tend to keep it in my journals or notes app now because it annoys the shit out of people lol. But hyperfixations on specific ideas/objects also happens within fetishes, so who knows.

[@foxbuns]

im autistic and i got the exact same vibes too

[@foxbuns]

@@makarambles you sound so excited it makes me wanna ask you more about mopeds and scooters :)

[@makarambles]

@@foxbuns omg you are SO sweet

[@celinepersonman6448]

This reads like someone who saw Edward Scissorhands way too young and got wayyyyyy too into the movie.

[@mikesanders8621]

I think the most unsettling thing to me is typing in all caps.

[@moogyboy6]

AND PUNCTUATING EVERY SENTENCE WITH AN EXCLAMATION POINT!

[@chrisball3778]

It sounds like fetish role-play stuff. An early weird fetish site that got mainstream media coverage was one called 'Amputees are Beautiful' that had creepy photos of female amputees, apparently aimed at fetishists and people with BID, so it was something on the radar of terminally online people in 2001.

[@JuliaMarieH]

The main thing that makes me doubt your second theory is that Carole doesn’t mention her pain as a driving force behind the amputation. Wouldn’t she have at least mentioned it at some point if it was so debilitating? She even said she was completely able bodied. That’s why I think it was probably written by “Rob”, who was either her boyfriend or just a friend who knew about her pain and projected this onto her. Then again, maybe part of Carole’s fantasy was not having the pain so maybe she purposefully didn’t mention it.

[@jacinv.4246]

As someone who dated someone for 5 years that dealt with chronic pain, who was also a highly creative person that would escape in imaginary realities, I think your first theory pretty much hits the nail on the head.

[@BabyyiJustwanaDancee]

huzzah!! This is exactly what I needed after a stressful day!

[@OGA103]

I find the claim that she's fully aware of the consequences of having both arms amputated very dubious considering she never once mentioned the possibility of phantom limb pain. A very real and very difficult issue that many amputees suffer from. I hope she found the help she needed instead of going through with such an insane plan.