What Happened To Childe? | Genshin Impact

[@aeso3555]

"He's like that ex-boyfriend you thought you moved on from but he keeps showing up to remind you of him" - Thus, Vars explaining the appeal of the Chilumi ship.

[@VarsII]

"I can fix him"

[@ssgtanman]

May I ask what this Chilumi ship is? I’ve never heard of it

[@enlightenedblade171]

@@ssgtanmanchilde lumine probably

[@holywitch13]

​@@VarsIIThat explains why I like this guy so much and I had complete assholes as my boyfriends, lmao

[@aeso3555]

@@ssgtanman Basically Childe with the female traveler, Lumine, thus Chilumi.

[@joshuaedward1748]

In their 2.0 livestream, the devs said Childe is the most difficult character they've ever made. Being able to switch fighting styles on the fly has brought all kinds of coding issues, thus there was never another character that plays like him

[@EthansFin]

raiden is similar?

[@anduong8796]

@@EthansFinthey probably learn from childe

[@notraidenshogun8324]

​@@EthansFinRaiden is similar but since polarm and sword are both melee, childe's range and melee style is more difficult since u add in different autotarget functionalities. Plus unlike Raiden, childe's kit aso has Riptide which are all like little monsters, independent of each other depending on how u unleash it

[@jcceno4273]

​@@EthansFinraiden doesn't get new attack animations in her sword mode tho

[@MythicAce218]

I'm glad they didn't make another character like him because it makes him unique. but just because he was hard to make doesn't mean they can't make another one like him

[@Someone-zn4dh]

Personally, I love that Childe starts getting recognition. He is the earliest example of Hoyo team going above and beyond on creating a character. In early interview, one of the character designer/rigger said that he is the most complex character they created and to gave example, they goes into alot of detail on just how to make the man's scarf flows correctly in his skills. Add that to having two burst etc, you will be surprised that he was not the fave child

[@blastzd]

"starts"?

[@Someone-zn4dh]

@@blastzd oh maybe I should also had say that since early on, Childe had a really dissapointing banner and sell. Later being joked on as the "Archon of Rerun", Weird fighting style which also 'supported' with him releasing first without the Heart of Depth Set, and later Ayato 'powercreeping' him. What I meant is that he faced alot of...shits. so I am happy that his perceptions is slowly going up

[@Azaleaaah]

Not to mention his design itself was also hard to made as it contains "spoilers". He was always called the walking spoiler

[@simplyheen1150]

​@@Azaleaaahmofo also had an insane amount of death flags yet is still slashing.

[@Azaleaaah]

@@simplyheen1150 I would die laughing if he ends up surviving till the end

[@ninakatz7916]

bro I’m so surprised that people don’t like childe his personality and design is sooooo wonderful to me

[@sundalosketch4769]

It feels like a lot of people take his story way too seriously when he commits crimes and also treat his personality too seriously. I've never fully understood the hate.

[@naufalnoorizan1763]

Maybe its just cause he’s a male? And most just want waifus@@sundalosketch4769

[@epicgamer5620]

@@sundalosketch4769 as vars explained he lacks the anime tits

[@katsukibakugou5013]

​@@sundalosketch4769As they say, Genshin players don't have reading comprehension. Childe is such a amazing and lore wise. But most ppl either have him as he most evil character or just some guy. Kinda infuriating lol

[@agentblackbird9435]

@@sundalosketch4769The rant at 6:22 is pretty much how I feel. If you don’t like Childe then you should probably dislike Raiden as well

[@danielferrieri7434]

How broken would Tartaglia be if we could play as his Foul Legacy Delusion

[@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079]

bro would be a taser comp by himself

[@aeso3555]

Wipe the floor with everyone

[@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person]

Weeekly boss levels of Broken. But I think you might be confusing some things, his delusion and his Foul Legacy Transformation are separate things. His Delusion comes from the Fatui, giving him Electro, and his armo comes from his training in the Abyss by Skirk.

[@brook_cl]

imagine genshin did "alters" like how dan heng got one in hsr

[@Hi-lu5vf]

xiao ult, but you can die from the hp drain

[@Morichoradio]

Without a doubt childe is hoyo's favorite son (ayaka being fave daughter) Hoyo treats childe the same way Kishimoto treats sasuke. They build a character that is integral to the main story, give him a backstory that makes him wanna get stronger, give him abilities that can rival the MC, win some huge battles, lose some major battles and get one-sided defeated by an opponent stronger than him. At the end of the struggle, they make a character that is beloved by many regardless of his reputation Its been like 3 yrs and even w/ the release of neuvillette, he is still meta with his international comp. He is basically a character that hoyo took time and effort to a be a worth it character whether be F2P or whale Even CN players call him the golden boy and ayaka being the diamond princess of hoyo. Although people might disagree because its always the waifus, ya'll forget that hoyo does that to appease those players but they always have their favorites and would find time to put them in the spotlight multiple times

[@bazah23]

It’s not about boys and girls I just dislike the dude for everything he did during the story quest I like all tall male characters except him and kaveh

[@xer2578]

I agree with that but their other favorite son is Scara Just look at the amount of lore and character development they gave this little shit who must be protected at all costs. He might not exactly be a strong character in game and his flight is a bit clunky but they definitely did a great job fleshing his character out.

[@Azaleaaah]

​@@xer2578And you can tell Childe is also getting a similar treatment with Fontaine, with the whole primordial whale and abyss thing. Childe was one of the main in Liyue and would argue one of the main in Fontaine too. Especially since one of the main plot of 4.1 is trying to find Childe

[@vanessachowjiaying4423]

​@@Azaleaaah based on narrative, he's similar to Fu Hua from Honkai; story relevant characters who are linked to several different but important factions, and consistently appear in their respective stories.

[@yuvatejaanirudh8282]

​@@xer2578I think hoyo treats all fatui in a special way

[@devam8192]

In abyss Childe always sits in the top 15-25, with his usage rate being 30% on average. Most 5 star DPS characters had ups and down in their usage but childe remains consistent. Additional fact, his international team is the most used team for most of abyss runs and never fell below 3rd position.

[@Jdogrey1]

Hu Tao's average is 43%...

[@devam8192]

​@Jdogrey1 like I said ups and downs, for the last 5-6 abyss hutao is mostly below childe by 2-3 or even 5 spots. Hfor eg last abyss(4.0) her usage was 35% while childe's was 39.9%

[@stylerxo3654]

​@@Jdogrey1hu Tao is kind of bad rn. Honestly.

[@Discodian]

​@@stylerxo3654💀how is this true in any world

[@Jdogrey1]

@@stylerxo3654 tell that to my 3 minute Abyss Clear with F2P Hu Tao and the top used team in Abyss right now.

[@Rinnekorppi]

"You always come crawling right back to him" is so true. He was my first limited 5*. I used him a lot, then switched to other characters. Then I have constantly came back to using him, and remembering how much fun he is gameplay and personality-wise.

[@kaih_the_viewer]

So Childe embodies that one quote from Thanos in endgame “you could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.”

[@FreneticPotato]

Even after pulling for every single 5-star hydro character I still kept coming back to him. It's like I've gotten so used to his playstyle that every other unit felt off to me lol.

[@notraidenshogun8324]

Childe was my least preferred playstyle character (since he's kinda intimidating to play at first) but now that I've reluctantly done many abysses (a casual turn hardcore) , I love love love speedruning domains and abyss with him. Like I have so many teams to use, so many dps, tighnari, ayaka, Neuvillette, wanderer, keqing, hyper Raiden, kaeya, etc... i just come back to playing international and gasping everytime I finish the enemies in less than 10 seconds... he's truly one of the characters of all time Edit: oh and I pulled him when polar star came out (started playing in 1.6) got him and polar star in like 50 pulls. Man really liked me ig (tho I pulled him for the scarf animation hahahah)

[@swordmaster4448]

same lol, hes so fun to use in over world

[@Aurirang]

Same-same for me. He's my first 5* and made me play significantly longer because his fighting style was so much more fun than anybody i got beforehand. He's definitely not the strongest character i have now (i did take a very lengthy break and started end of this summer again) and Tighnari does outdamage him because i got some lucky Artifacts with alot of E.Mastery while i'm currently trying my hardest to get some proper Artifacts for Childe. (I swear, i get so much Def-stuff it's not even funny)

[@midnight_jay1470]

The comment here 13:05 just hits me so much. Childe was honestly the reason i started playing genshin. He was my 1st limited 5 star and even though i have other dps characters now like Ayato, Alhaitham, and Neuvillette, I always seem to stick to him as my main dps for my story team and one of my abyss team.

[@polarroars68]

edit: tl; dr i finally got childe after 2 years and now have someone to use thundering pulse ong same when i first started genshin childe was on banner but then i fell out of touch with it then when i got back into the game cyno was on banner and after him was childe who i also didnt get but i got yoimiya’s weapon when she was running with nahida and ive been playing since then falling in love with the characters and the story but this september genshin finally gifted me a childe after waiting for so long and it even gave me his husband not long after so now my thundering pulse finally has someone who can use its entire passive without being a physical dps

[@hayond656]

Indeed, same thing happened to me with Wanderer and Alhaitham

[@RandomGenshinStuff]

I started playing cuz of him too all the way back in 1.1 and i use him every single abyss rotation to 36*

[@notalex6837]

This ain’t stopping me from using childe he’s just too satisfying to play. Riptide is just 👌

[@sophiapeters8206]

Same! His fast shredding with international team is too fun

[@swordmaster4448]

one of reason why pull for him because of that satisfied riptide moment lol

[@crisen_]

still aged like a fine wine even with Neuvillette around

[@bazah23]

Copium

[@blastzd]

​​@@bazah23copium? hes still on top of the meta even rn, neuvilette is not.

[@bazah23]

@@blastzd dragon judge>>>>>>the eleventh out of nine harbingers 😭💀 But seriously I know childe is meta but neuvi is superior in every shape and form

[@shiroiakuma3054]

​@@bazah23if Nuevillete has replaced anyone its ayato, as ayato's teams are overlapping with him. childe international is untouched.

[@bazah23]

@@shiroiakuma3054 who said he was replaced? Anyway the majestic hydro dragon is ON TOP🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@yuuichiro1799]

My boy Tartaglia will never be forgot, the best comrade you could find 💪🏻

[@pointlessfeather5830]

You should make a video on the state of Baizhu-- he's basically a Dendro Kokomi that can grant up to a 100% increase to Hyperbloom damage, yet he's still criminally underplayed

[@eritragomez6069]

I use him on my Cyno hyperbloom and Kaveh Bloom, the damage difference before and after i use Baizhu burst is noticeable, i love baizhu and i will always use him

[@szarekhthesilentking7043]

Worry not! For he is one of Furina's best teammates! Expect a resurgence soon!

[@kartoffelstein3627]

Fr I used a hyperbloom team with Ayato, EM Raiden, Nahida and Zhongli for this Abyss but couldn't clear. Then swapped Zhonli out for Baizhu and the team performed so much better it was insane.

[@enlightenedblade171]

I wish I pulled him for my cyno

[@GoodEveningDota]

how does double hyperbloom damage? genuinely asking cause I don't know

[@weregretohio7728]

I feel like the answer to these is inevitably: 1) Dendro happened 2) Hydro is OP

[@Romashka_Sov]

There should be Vars bingo card somewhere

[@Azaleaaah]

Dendro didn't change Childe much tbh

[@Morichoradio]

@@Azaleaaah It did. He is unironically used in nilou bloom (after baizhu release) and burgeon intergrassional team.

[@Azaleaaah]

@@Morichoradio he only has more teams but dendro still didn't change him that much bc in the end ppl still prefer international

[@bravo6going702]

@@Azaleaaah kinda true but his intergrassional is still really strong

[@holywitch13]

Childe is literally one of my characters that just brute forces me to play him. First, I got him, then I got his c1 and when i just for memes pulled weapon banner with polar star right after getting c1, banner threw this bow in my face after 20 pulls. I'm rebuilding him with this nymph hydro set right now, and even with shit 2+2 artifacts he deals solid damage. And I love his personality, his appearence in main story always leaves an impression (and his own story left me crying, like literally)

[@IPromiseTomorrow]

Not many talked about his story quest. It was great. The whole theme was his dual responsibilities that run in conflict with each other. I don't understand why people ignore that. Tartaglia is a family man, and head of an "evil" military. You're not supposed to understand his actions, until you realize he's doing it for Tuecer. Then you see the whole picture and reason behind his unwillingness to be a Fatui Harbinger, and constant absence from his family. He has to balance them out.

[@yaya-eh3fi]

It's just insane that his team stayed a meta team since 1.1 and till now it's one of the best f2p teams out there and the second most used team in abyss

[@xJuno]

childe mains are also some of the sweetest people i met in co-op.. most of them got super hyped when they realised i main dps barbara and it's just so oddly comforting

[@bluefenneris9009]

childes kit had a lot of nuance considering the time he came out in and his kit was pretty well suited for dendro compared to other year one 5 stars. He also got a new sig weapon later on and some of they new artifacts are also quite good on him . Overall his kit is still somewhat unique and is great for driving reactions while dealing decent damage himself

[@storywriters5566]

I'm not gonna lie, that misspell caught me off guard lmao

[@Randomguy-fi5bt]

Yeah childe should've had a child at a better time

[@MrFox-xr9cc]

And he gets not only better, but also a hell lot more flexible with constellations. The Reduced cooldown/reset of his E on C1 and C6, as well as the self triggering marks on C4. I still highly prefer his sparkly team: Childe - Sucrose/Kazuha - Beidou - Kuki

[@colress9197]

Does childe have any good dendro teams though? Genuine question

[@Randomguy-fi5bt]

@@colress9197 there is intergrassnational and he works well with Dori in a hyperbloom team but I never tried those teams so idk how well those work over others

[@talal_salamah]

just a quick little correction, the childe national team before kazuha wasn't as much "inefficient" as it was just cringe to play, the team was still one of the best but double swirling with sucrose was less reliable compared to kazuha, basically what i mean is kazuha didn't make the team, he just made it easier to play more than anything.

[@yuvatejaanirudh8282]

Agreed PPL used to use venti but smaller targets just went way too high that some of his shots didn't hit them

[@6uava]

Childe Hyperbloom is like my favorite team comp. National is great too. I have picked up a copy or 2 of him on each rerun and finally got him C6 in 4.0. :D

[@rifarira9160]

Heard that his c6 is terible for international

[@sabrinas.79]

@@rifarira9160not childe's. they are talking about Bennet's C6. Childe's C6 resets the melee stance CD after a ranged burst so you can use the melee stance again

[@elliott421]

Pop Tart, Yae, Nahida and Kuki helped me a lot through the early days of Sumeru.I've had him since his first banner, and while I've used him on and off again, dendro really helped raise his stocks if you ask me.

[@nationalgeografic7687]

3.2 isn't that early

[@playmobilegamescodm]

I like how you portrayed Ei. That's what she is for Throwing Her Son. Childe on other hand Takes care of his brother and Sister. I see him as older brother.

[@IzmaSky]

After my 2 years of genshin, I wished and got him on 4.0 banner because I saw his meta capabilities is improving even in the latest version. He is still worth the primogems despite other hydro dps.

[@thegurlama7356]

I couldnt get him sadly loved his playstyle and everything else I got Neuvilette now and he seems so boring compared to Childe.

[@IzmaSky]

@@thegurlama7356 I also love his high risk high reward gameplay that requires higher skill ceilling making him more fun to use than anyone

[@Kluaos]

If we ignore every other newer dps character in the game, yes he sure is. If we take a sec comparing him to those, there is literaly no reason to pull him over them.

[@SeenE-kg9nj]

@@thegurlama7356 Yeah I recently got Childe over Neuvilette in 4.0 and I still have no regrets despite Neuv being clearly super strong. If I did have Neuvillette, I would use him with no healer - that would spice things up a little and make his teams really stronger. Units like Neuv and Hu Tao who have self-healing abilities can be really fun that way

[@aemen8796]

If you can clear the abyss without him you should be good. Although in my case, I got him 2 days after I started playing. I even got polar star by accident. I benched him for so long and when I finally decided to use him, I got my first 36 star. My top 8% raiden can't compete with my top 75% childe.

[@indilanuit772]

Not only he is a good character to play, albeit a bit tricky to learn- he also manages to stay relevant in the lore too, which i think also helps his popularity- While there was basically a drought of content during the sumeru 3.x patch, we are having a resurgence with him being a somewhat prominent "hidden catalyst of events" in 4.x Basically he is appealing not only to the players who focus on the gameplay, numbers and playability; but also to the ones who like to explore the world and its lore

[@fluffy3355]

I have mained childe since 1.1, his design is fantastic, his gameplay reflects his personality. kind of like jhin and thresh from lol. every time you see a group of enemies i just want to rend them to shreads with riptide.

[@noVa-oq4pe]

I really like how hoyo doesn't powercreep older units unlike many other gacha games ..I mean we all can finish this game with even ver 1.5 units

[@Romashka_Sov]

Better, we can finish this game with ver 1.0 units... Even more, we can do it with just free characters. At least unless you count 36 starring Abyss as a part of finishing the game

[@meikkuikamuzu5869]

Ayato and neuvilette?

[@GilbertGuilford]

​@@meikkuikamuzu5869Neither of those two is better than Childe, especially in AoE situations. And until hoyo releases other characters that have 8 or more different ways to apply hydro Mr Worldwide stays the best.

[@jcceno4273]

Makes you think why should we even get new characters, that's a big con

[@swordmaster4448]

@@GilbertGuilford nah neuvillette by miles better in AOE DMG, HES THE CARRY SOLO DPS but not best hydro aplication like childe and ayato

[@completely_original9760]

childe main here! i've had childe since his first rerun and i've totally fallen in love with his versatility first and foremost, especially in the overworld. he's practically the only unit in the game that can work well in both close and long ranges. aside from international, he's worked for me in charge teams, hyperbloom teams, and even freeze teams (though that last one was definitely a stretch--i think it was for an event and i was getting desperate). with the way i have him built, he can even dish out a decent amount of physical and charged attack damage. even though i have other insane units who can easily outscale his numbers, there's just no other character in this game who can do it ALL the way that childe can. people harp on his kit for being too complicated, but he's actually a really convenient all around damage dealer once you get used to him (tho i will say that my opinion is probably skewed--i have him at c2 lol) he's not my first choice for everything, but he's still probably my most consistently used character. he fills in suprisingly well for a hydro support, too (which i should know since yelan snubbed me twice before finally coming home on her 3rd run. pain.)

[@yuvatejaanirudh8282]

Yes i love him tooo

[@blankuser987]

yes! i also got him on his first rerun (and he was my first limited 5 star) and although he was benched for a while since I didn't really understand how to play him, once I picked him up again and actually learned how to play him he's just really satisfying to play. People harp on the skill cooldown but in a proper rotation that's a non-issue even at c0

[@trojan_z1591]

I fucking love Childe, i used him to clear this abyss and his hydro application just allows him to always be used in a team that needs hydro application. Hes amazing and was my first double 5 star pull in 1.1

[@neilgondra7379]

By far the one of the most special characters, AoE coverage thanks to Riptide, 2 different burst nuke, stance mode that can be stop freely, the only passive that level up a talent by 1, his extremely unique like no other even as the bottom ranking harbinger he still a real game changer.

[@lakatos0823]

i dont understand either why ppl sleep on him. he's one of the best hydro driver of the international. he shines mostly in multy target battles, but that doesnt mean he cant do his job against bosses either. i accidentally pulled him in 1.1, and started using him when i accidentally pulled his weapon too, and oh boy wish i used him earlier

[@valt4462]

because his gameplay

[@Bunny_Edith]

Because Neuvillette exists and he is better hydro.

[@blastzd]

​@@Bunny_Edithchilde is absolutely better than neuvilette in meta lol

[@hypershock0storm479]

It's probably just people's preferences or priorities. I can acknowledge that Tartaglia is a solid unit, but I like (insert character name here) more.

[@gltme2403]

Title: “What Happened To Childe?” Me: “He Became An Adulte”

[@Nikelclip]

He is in prison, case closed XD

[@santabakure6264]

Not anymore🎉

[@mayureshjoshi4075]

Or is he..... *Vsauce music starts*

[@aemen8796]

He's not 😂

[@warrencaelum9536]

someone's not playing the archon quests💀

[@paulyvii]

Spoiler Childe busted out of prison through a pipe and he's probably floating in the Primoridal Sea rn looking for a whale

[@AnserStar]

Childe was my first limited 5* and I still use International team pratically every abyss rotation. It's just too good at everything.

[@highwaytoheaven99]

He was my first ever 5 star, so he has a special place in my heart. Him, Fischl and Sucrose carried me through the early to mid game in their backs lol I even got his C1 and signature eventually. He was benched for almost a year, after I got Hutao, Shogun and other carries, but recently I'm using Childe National in almost every abyss cicle. Can't wait to see more of him in Fontaine.

[@kirstenteotico8291]

King. Childe is king. I believe in International Childe Supremacy.

[@vollied4865]

He's literally the only reason I came back to the game for Fontaine, hearing my boi tell off an archon in the trailer had me have to come back for my boi ajax

[@Azaleaaah]

Sameee. It was so fun seeing an old character appear again

[@itzpurple_queen9711]

Tartaglia was my 1st limited 5 star in 1.1 and I have no regrets whatsoever. He’s my GOAT

[@kainatnesa8982]

As the first 5* I ever went for, and my fab char to play, I am SO HAPPY to see his a resurgence!! I'm glad people are starting to give him more attention, he deserves it

[@MultiDragonreaper]

Another buff Childe got that wasn't mentioned in this video was the Nymph's Dream set which is much better for him then Heart of Depth. Heart of Depth only buffs his Normal and Charge attacks, Nymph's Dream gives him more Hydro damage and ATK for doing Normal, Charge, Elemental skill and Burst. Which Childe does everything in his kit besides Normal and Charge attacks.

[@MCHR92]

Yeah, but that set it with that other horrendous set, while HoD is with the freeze set. Worse resin efficiency for 7-8% more damage if you prestack it or 3% if you go fast.

[@MultiDragonreaper]

@MCHR92 While Vorukasha's Glow 4 piece set is only good on Deyha only, The 2 piece set is nice for a lot of Hp scaling characters like Zhongli, Kirara, Baizhu, Nilou so on. And is miles better for resin efficiency than farming the mililith domain with the Physical set.

[@MCHR92]

​@@MultiDragonreaper True but if you are doing that for your supports it means you are really investing in them, else a 4pc to give extra utility is better (we really need more support artifacts). In my case, I doubt I'll get a 230 CV 4 piece set for my Ayato just to get a little more damage and having to change how I play him in my teams, and maybe strongbox some Meanwhile the farming for dps will keep you there longer, and sure if you just want to build Childe is better to go for Nymph. In the dragonspine domain you farm for damage dealers who want better substats, cryo that can use freeze can find use, and HoD works for Ayato (his other artifact is even worse resin efficient and ping dependant), Neuvillete prefers HoD than Nymph if you have a good one around, and I'm inclined to think someone at a certain constellation won't mind a good HoD, so it's worth to go to that domain rather than using strongbox. The set buffs are good but good subtstats on a non BIS artifact is not bad, but this is all luck dependant, so it's better to aim where you have better opportunity returns.

[@MultiDragonreaper]

@@MCHR92 Fair enough. Imo if you had Childe before the release of the Nymphs Dream set and had a good HoD set on him or a good 2p HoD/2p Glad and beat content with him like that, you don't need to farm for Nymph. For me I got Childe in 4.0 and have been farming the Nymph domain to get 2pc Nymph, 2pc Varukasha for Nilou for ages. So it's a no brainer to give him that set. I'm only bringing up Nymph's dream as a buff for Childe because if Vars is going to bring up Polar Star(which most people aren't going to attempt to get because the Weapon banner is terrible} and Emblem for Xiangling improving the Childe international team then Nymph's dream is worth mentioning.

[@MCHR92]

@@MultiDragonreaper yeah just saying that resin eficiency is one of the things that players, specially new one should consider. True, and even Polar Star is marginally better in certain situations or even worse than other options where you can't prestack it (bows are stacked with crit weapons... meanwhile claymore only has 2 5 star with CV and 1 of them is gone) It's worth the mention, Polar is something you can guarantee if you are inclined or have the resources to try for (even when is clearly a scam, simps will simp), but an excellent or at least great artifact set? ... that could take way longer.

[@eludeirkz7961]

my favorite thing about Childe is that he is super versatile as a hydro dps driver, he does everything you want from hydro by himself so you can use any other characters. the only thing i hate is that his best team being international sucks to use in overworld exploration lmao.

[@ren8436]

The team is so strong it's like beating up Batman villains as Superman 🗿

[@Azaleaaah]

I mean u don't rlly need to use thaf team in overworld anyways since overworld is so easy

[@JustaBigMan]

@@Azaleaaah I'm the type of guy that doesn't like using burst in overworld, kinda like saving potions in an RPG for endgame and then ending up not using them at all

[@ren8436]

What bothers me when it comes to Tartaglia would be about the reputations of his team comps. It's hard to imagine, but I'll vaguely try put it this way: I'd imagine there's a standard for "power" on teams in Genshin to be considered Abyss viable or comfortable to play, let's put 100% "power" as that standard. Tartaglia's fireworks comp would be around 75-85% power, freeze comp at around 60-75% power, hyperbloom at 80-100% power. While Internasional is around a whopping 150-300% power (at least on the abyss viable part), while most overworld contents at hardest only need 50-80% power. Not the best examples, I know, but the point is his Internasional team is so good that even if his others teams are "viable" by themselves, they don't compare to International. He CAN work on other teams, it's just that Spiral Abyss is a content with damage sponges and time limits, where International is most demanded. I'd try to never use International unless such challenge or level is to be cleared, I didn't even knew about said team because I was busy trying to replicate his delusion form

[@sophialopez128]

I immediately fell inlove with Childe's playstyle in 1.1 and I will always be grateful for him! He has carried me these past 3 years and has also taught me a valuable lesson of rotation & timing management. It really helped that I was new when I got him since rotations pretty much became 2nd nature to me after playing him.

[@plvto1]

I still stand by the fact that Childe is Hoyo's magnum opus when it comes to designed characters. Along with Alhaitham, Hu Tao and Neuvi, not even talking about damage, but just how rewarding their kits feel to play. Childe's highly rewarding vape damage comes at the cost of a long cooldown if you stay on his blades for too long. Meaning you're going to have to pay attention and rotate correctly and efficiently and make the most of them. Hu Tao's damage bonus when she's near death is a great risk-reward factor and encourages you to either bring a shield or dodge correctly. Alhaitham encourages you to sort of think like him in the middle of combat, balancing the timings of the Prisms you can get with his skill and his charge attack and try and keep those 3 shards so you can unleash his burst. Neuvi goes without say.

[@tsyganko]

8:32 Well, Childe, Thoma, Traveller, Sucrose is not the most commonly used Childe burgeon team. His much better one is intergrassional (Childe, Bennett, Nahida, Kazuha) and it slaps Edit: Oh also, how can we forget that he also got a new artifact set at the end of 3.x (Nymphs Dream) that nobody but him is suited for, but its his bis? He keeps getting buffed lol

[@Romashka_Sov]

Nymphs dream works for Neuvillette btw. And probably no one mentioned it, because this is yet another new "+5% damage increase" artifact set. I feel people are tired of this, to spend a month worth of resin for a small damage improvement again (like they did it for Xiao, bloom and Wanderer sets). Also the other one in that domain is Wurukasha set, and no character really needs it for now

[@tsyganko]

@@Romashka_Sov Nymphs Dream is not Neuvillette's BiS artifact set, its Marachausee Hunter. Only Childe right now has Nymph's Dream as his BiS. I guess you can say maybe Ayato?? But I dont know him well enough to say for sure. And it's a significant enough increase over Heart of Depth imo. It's basically Polar Star in artifact form

[@Romashka_Sov]

@@tsyganko i didn't say it's his BiS, just mentioned he can use it, since you said it is suited for nobody but Childe, which is clearly not true. And yeah, it should be also good one for Ayato, not sure it's the BiS for him tho.

[@tsyganko]

@@Romashka_Sov Ah I see. Miscommunication, sorry. I was talking about BiS only :)

[@twigz3214]

@@Romashka_Sov I mean it's effectively just worse than using double-piece hydro so saying it works is like saying Shim works on Nuev, yeah you can make it work but you're actively sandbagging yourself. 15% CA dmg and 36 crit rate vs 15% hydro damage bonus + conditional uptime on another 15% is just a really awful comparison. For it to be better you'd have to not have substats on any of your pieces on the new set for it to be a consideration. The +5% dps sets can be annoying, but it's in such rare cases and has only really been for characters that didn't have a great set made for them, Childe was one of them so it's nice to have a set he can fully utilize. The bloom-specific one is kinda odd though, it's barely better in practice and often only 2-3%. You'd want to farm Deepwood pieces anyway so you'll have Gilded already.

[@glowtz]

Childe International never disappoints me in any battles lol

[@Xephyranth]

Vars spitting fax as usual and yes, if you made Childe a woman with a set of honkers, even if he killed an archon everyone would simp for her (see lady ashes as an example (imagine how much more 'art' she'd get if she was playable))

[@bazah23]

Nah I dislike lady ashes as well

[@blastzd]

bro rlly said "as usual"

[@Azaleaaah]

Signora is a bad comparison a lot of people hate her

[@MCHR92]

Now imagine if they never tried to make Raiden a morally gray character with the "resistance" and the war, just made her a conflicted character, victim of her background and the tragedy from 500 years ago... damn the sales, well at least it has worked for other characters. Seems that protecting your nation for 2000+ years is worthless, 1 year is enough to become a piece of shit lol.

[@bazah23]

@@Azaleaaah honestly hating all the harbingers is justified

[@shayan_3047]

As a guy who mained childe for 2 yrs i can confirm this

[@walaska1656]

As a guy who wishes to pull him for one and a half year and then finally got him, i can confirm this

[@1Henrink]

I'm still impressed how his kit is still the only stance changing character in the game.

[@bibektopno1251]

Raiden?

[@_Vino.]

​@@bibektopno1251it doesn't change her gameplay at all.

[@bibektopno1251]

@@_Vino. Bro do you not read, he clearly mentions "how his kit is still the only STANCE CHANGING CHARACTER in the game" which is clearly not the case as raiden goes from a polearm stance character to sword stance character in her burst.

[@-fury4820]

This video reminded me of why I started playing Genshin in the first place, which was to have Childe on my account. I started playing around Kokomi's first banner and when I heard that Childe was expected to rerun after her, I grinded every primogem my F2P AR 15 self could get his hands on in order to wish on his banner. Unfortunately I ended up losing my 50/50 to Mona (who has been stuck in level 50 prison as punishment) and I quit playing until 2.8 for Kazuha. I then saved for his 3rd rerun to which I finally got him and I've been proudly using him ever since. He's one of my favorite characters and I'm glad he's still meta after all these years :D

[@galaxi6585]

WOOOO CHILDE MENTIONED anyway he's probably staying where he is forever because to powercreep him hoyo would basically need to make a character with the same infinite hydro application but off-field which would powercreep like every other hydro character even harder

[@Kastor774]

Vars: makes video exalting Childe's virtues Also Vars: posts it after he's done rerunning

[@wolfwoof2000]

what I like about this team since I invested in it, it's how versatile it is. Strong against all elements, aoe and bosses.

[@Seth1re]

oceanid

[@wolfwoof2000]

@@Seth1re Xiangling will do the job

[@Seth1re]

@@wolfwoof2000 not the bird

[@wolfwoof2000]

@@Seth1re Tartaglia normal attacks can but slowly 😂

[@Tai-Lung]

My new favourite on fielder/dps now is nuvilette. Childe is 2nd now.

[@x3m9x]

Whenever im trying out other teams, they tend to clear the abyss slower than this team due to how front load this team is built. I always comes back to this team whenever my xiao team cant clear the abyss fast enough which is sad since xiao's team is so good but lack frontload. Ever xianyun out, my xiao team can finally clear the abyss reliably as fast as international.

[@Ekamin1]

Cleared every single abyss with childe since the day I got 36stars. Only used international 3 patch cycles. Now running the most broken c3 childe, c2 nahida, lost paradise kuki hyperbloom team. Everything die faster than international.

[@jarrettdiperna8370]

The rant at 6:30 killed me. XD As someone who dislikes both characters equally, exactly this. Especially after both of their character quests. Childe's felt like contrived comedy, while Raiden's was strange at best. @.@

[@JorjoGiovanna]

Honestly a big factor on why she’s so popular is because she’s already a fan favorite character in Honkai impact, plus now there’s leaks that she’s gonna be playable in HSR too. Plus booba sword

[@MCHR92]

@@JorjoGiovanna I don't think that's a big factor, even now not many Genshin players know who Raiden Mei is, Genshin was bigger than what HI3 ever was when Inazuma came out.

[@FreneticPotato]

@@MCHR92 Let's be real here: she's popular because she pulls a sword out of her b0oba, and nothing else.

[@bluemoon7785]

Furina, neuvillette, yelan or ayato can keep rerunning all they want. I'm never going to stop being loyal to my boy, I don't care what anyone thinks about him. I'm a comrade through and through... All my primogems and resources are going for him, cause no other character is as fun to me. And I wouldn't have it any other way :)

[@nahian2k780]

You got me Too Comrade 👍

[@zaydbenn4900]

the duel links soundtrack just caught me off guard love it

[@kx2174]

I love playing International. All the characters synergize so well and it works great in both AoE and ST. Even when you get a chamber with a bunch of Hydro enemies Bennett/XL/Kazuha are there, if it's Pyro shields then Childe/Kazuha deal with it. Everything else just melts (or is vaporized XD). Kazuha and Childe are 2 of my favorites story/design wise. I started in 1.5 so I got Kazuha first and then Childe on his rerun in 2.2, mostly just because I like their deigns the Meta stuff was a happy accident XD

[@utsubyo]

I got him on his first rerun in 1.4, soon after got my first 36* and I've been clearing every single abyss with no exception since then using him, international can deal with absolutely everything, doesn't matter how many enemies, doesn't matter what shield they have, doesn't matter how many waves, doesn't matter if its a boss, this team just doesn't care and beats up everything

[@Divinerofdarkness]

I love Childe, I don't really perceive him as evil, he wants a good fight all the time, and the best way to do it is to well, be the villain. That, and he doesn't really try to go all out into torturing innocent people like some of his colleagues.

[@trashraccoon2635]

"you may get distracted by the new toys but in the end you come crawling back" jokes on you he's still the only dps i've triple crowned and i consistently use him for everything because his hydro application is just so reliable

[@redbolt1234]

Yay! I am so excited to here your thoughts aboy Childe since he has been my main and most invested character in Genshin ever since I got him and I am so happy he finally gets his own episode to shine. Also free him from prison please

[@nexuhs.]

Then in sumeru from nowhere, we also get Childe's artifact set

[@user-re8tc1dg3b]

Childe is still arguably the only character who can compete with hutao for the highest single elemental hit

[@Azaleaaah]

Not really there's plenty of units that's better at single target than him

[@user-re8tc1dg3b]

@@Azaleaaah thats the thing. He is aoe. His ults have a pretty large range

[@shinrakai]

Good to see someone enjoying Childe. I've enjoyed him since the beginning, going form C1 at his release to C6 on his rerun, It's funny to me how people skipped Kazuha. I C6'd Kazuha on his release because I knew he was going to be broken. I still use Childe a lot to this day, whenever my Geodudes (Itto, Zhongli, Gorou, Albedo/Bennett/Mona) can't get the job done and he always holds up.

[@tartaru749]

Childe international and Nahida hyperbloom, thats my spiral abyss teams without thinking too much. They get the job done. I don't need to think and build other teams as long as they are still meta lol.

[@nazimsama4389]

The yu gi oh duel links soundtrack is heavenly

[@eIychia]

i triple crowned him instantly not because of meta, hes hot

[@crazyformyself7296]

Based

[@404FinallyFound]

The neat thing about teams with high hydro and pyro damage is they with pretty much every element shield. It really only can’t deal with geo shields so there’s not much that can’t be dealt with

[@Mordred_King]

Tartaglia will continue to be the best hydro character on-field and i'm sure this never gonna change, international is simply the beast team in the game in every situation at low and high investment🗿

[@x3m9x]

Not low investment though, his team is more resin heavy from my experience

[@rifarira9160]

U definitely need high investment for oppa xl

[@Mordred_King]

@@rifarira9160 my XL is top 1% 😎

[@MSSProductions1]

this man was the sole reason i started playing this game. L O V E

[@Kluaos]

3 damn years and still no balance patches. Like damn. They charge hundreds of $$$ for each character just to leave them in the dust to rott and release straight up better/stronger versions of them later down the line. Hate how greedy Hoyo is when it comes to this. I know rebalancing doesnt make them insta cash like new characters, but still....

[@prestige934]

Powercreeping is very rare in this game. I mean the 1.0 4 stars are still the strongest characters in game

[@JustaBigMan]

Currently at 5.1 and I can tell you that Childe is still going strong just like always (and the 1.0 4 stars are still kicking ass)

[@Hey_i_am_A-D]

"What happened to childe? " Ans:- chilling INTERNATIONAL world tour

[@hood7480]

I wish people played intergrassional (international but replace xiangling with Nahida) more often. It’s my favorite team in the whole game

[@popepethum5540]

I forgot how hard the Duel Links music went. Thank u Vars :3

[@onetwopikachu8122]

Yami yugi theme is 🔥hopefully he can use other themes like dsod and my personal favorite playmaker winning theme 😅

[@ArtanBlacknight]

I got Childe by "accident". When I first started playing I didnt know about soft pity. I tried a lot to get Klee but I eventually stopped and decided I will get Zhongli instead. I was away from the 90 pity and if you dont include pity Genshin rates are worse than FGO so needing to reach pity is the norm. Diona was on his banenr and I thought of doing a few pulls to get her, but soft pity kicked in. I was pretty happy and things turned out for the better, I would rather have Childe than Klee on my account.

[@drmluvr]

Ahh I was so excited for this Childe video and it absolutely did not disappoint!! I've been a Childe main since his first rerun and the point at 13:06 definitely holds true; I have so many new and fun characters, but I always come back to him. The only ones who have ever come close to being as fun as Childe is for me would be Alhaitham and Lyney. I'm not huge into the meta so I'd use him regardless, but it does make me really happy to see that my favorite character is still so useful almost three years later. :) Amazing video, thank you for this!!

[@KingTaltia]

Ah, good ol' Childe, a mainstay in my team ever since I F'd up and pulled on his banner for pity while trying to prepare for Zhongli... Fast forward, like, 40 pulls and I had a C2 Childe and a C0 Qiqi... Let this be a lesson, don't pull unless you're accepting the 5-star. I've learned my lesson... Plus side, fast-forward to now and despite being F2P I have a C4 Childe, so... luck do be a lady sometimes.

[@Achance2c]

I love watching you videos mostly for your voice but also for the info 🥰

[@kokoro7996]

I got him during his 4.0 banner. I’m still figuring out how to use the international team properly, but once I figure it out I’ll be killing everything!

[@N1CKczemN1CK]

Im playing International for about 2 weeks and I absolutely love it 😊

[@squidonglitter2320]

My pride as a Childe main has gone sky high. I wanted Childe ever since I joined the game after his first banner. I nabbed him, his weapon and his constellation on every rerun respectively since. Even in version 4 with highly anticipated hydros on the way (neuvilette and furina), Childe will always be a powerful option (a popular pick or not). How appropriate on him to get so much more attention now with his lore and character development with the current archon quest.

[@scylla1772]

"What happened to Childe? Not much." *roll credits*

[@Wonkyweewee]

I have not once heard someone actually pronounce Tartaglia's name right, props to you.

[@laststrand69]

I would like to say that Polar Star isn't necessarily a buff for Childe. A lot of the 5* bows in the game has Crit main stat and it depends on the artifacts of the user's Childe. Childe is sssuuupppeeerrrr F2P friendly and thus, has a lot of great weapon options where many of the weapons give similar DPS outputs. For i.e. my Childe has 79:206 crit stat with well above 2k ATK which has been possible thanks to Skyard Harp. This couldn't have been possible for me with Polar Star. So yeah, his best weapon option depends on his artifacts really.

[@usmanya5110]

i wonder which is his best f2p weapon stringless or PtC.

[@laststrand69]

@@usmanya5110 Stringless is too niche and therefore, inconsistent so PtC is much better in my opinion.

[@usmanya5110]

@@laststrand69 hmm... interesting. cause usually i run Childe with stringless just fine. maybe it's because i tend to play to like his burst and riptides alot and he does vaporize sometimes when he's in E mode. outside of vaporize i think stringless is pretty meh. oh right i also forgot about the king squire and the hamayumi. i wonder how those compare as well?

[@laststrand69]

@@usmanya5110 Oh, Hamayumi for sure. Because it's less niche and certainly much more consistent. But, bottom line, you're gonna want to try to gacha at least the Rust all the way to R5, or Skyward Harp or Polar Star or even Yoimiya's signature purple bow (Sowwie I forgot the name). Literally, any weapon that focuses on providing Normal ATK dmg, High ATK and Base ATK or just good ol's stat sticks being either Crit Rate/Crit DMG (Depending on which you need but try to keep a 1:2 ratio to begin with)

[@usmanya5110]

@@laststrand69 hmm... i have both rust and Stringless, and idk why but i'm not really a huge fan of rust on childe like i tested it and it feels less than stringless and King's squire(if the passive works) idk it feels like something is missing, i'll try to get hamayumi when i get the blue prints though. maybe it's due to it's passive. since a majority of his damage is mostly from his riptides(which counts as skill damage) and his burst.

[@2kcreations721]

Just love everything about this character. From his Riptide, Weapon selection, being Fatui, Childe and Lumine Ships, Voice actor, Storyline, There is nothing to hate on this character. My First 5-star character and never regretted, IF you play as Lumine you will definitely feel the Childe Lumine Ships in their conversation 😅. From saving Lumine in Liyue / Introducing his brother to Lumine / Fighting battles / Giving his Vision to Lumine in fontaine definitely feels like an excuse to meet again. And I'm sure there is more to come and we might see them battle side by side in future 😅😅

[@l1ght0fthef0rcea2]

Although I love Tartaglia's gameplay and kit I have to admit I would love to see his constellations get buffed/changed, such as more of his cons enhancing his riptide effect and improving the uptime, application and damage of it.

[@s.p.8911]

You missed two important parts of his kit: the cooldown and riptide. back in 1.1 a lot of people were saying childe was unusable without c6 because of his cooldown being too long because we either needed to budget the time we used his melee stance or build a team with other on field dps which both contributed to his hype dying down. Now that genshin playstyle revolves around teams, his cd also feels more manageable. Riptide, on the other hand, is probably the most cracked mechanic in genshin to date despite all the new regions, characters and even dendro. which is also why he's absolutely broken against groups of smaller mobs. all the event videos of riptide infinitely applying on smaller enemies also gave a spike to his popularity. Riptide is the best and the most enduring part of his kit. Devs really set out to make a character for snezhnaya and released him in 1.1. Even his passive talent feels too OP and out of place for that patch.

[@mattsopiratoso790]

My man. I saw this character potential since 1.1 And he still has given me 36 stars since then. Funny yet? I got him by accident. Not that I didn't want him, but as a f2p, I wanted to guarantee the archon. By trying to get Diona, I Somehow, I was blessed with both Tartar and Zhongli.

[@polarroars68]

id love to see a video on why kazuha is seen as more valued then venti when they do similar things just different ways and with different wapons

[@escatology8258]

It's not Venti, it's Sucrose. Venti doesn't give elemental damage bonus nor em sharing last time I checked.

[@polarroars68]

@@escatology8258 yeah but in terms of base kit not passives their similar E goes up and Q supressess enemies

[@escatology8258]

@@polarroars68 Kazuha's passive is exactly why people prefer to use him than Venti. Overall, Kazuha's kit has more to offer than Venti. Venti might have better cc but team's damage ceiling is higher by having Kazuha in the team because of his elemental damage bonus and em sharing.

[@tivigraphics4475]

Gotta love a Genshin video with Duel Links OST in the bg, awesome video, I actually want to get Childe now, only problem. I skipped him to get Furina 😢

[@deception845]

Hot take: Raiden didn't leave me with a high appreciation for the character even after she redeemed herself, same with Yae but that's another topic. But Childe made me at least appreciate his appearances whenever he was called up.

[@keralaplays1580]

Childe just shredded the Health draining wolfs in this 4.1 abyss easily lol.

[@wishnanami]

the reason why i skip child is because my ayaka team is using kazuha. and i am never going back to sucrose she is too long range for ayaka and i does not feel good to with her

[@AzureDrag0n1]

You could always use Sucrose with International. She does not need to do much. Just use an auto and then e skill to ensure the double swirl. He can also flex in other characters like Fischl for single target dps and overvape. Mostly I just used Sucrose when I also needed Kazuha but I also use Venti with Ayaka as well which was sometimes better.

[@lawfulgoodnun1646]

Sucrose better with childe anyways lol

[@wishnanami]

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 the thing about sucrose is that you first you cant double swirl to bring out the teams full potential, unless there is a hidden tech idk about. i know the em buff is good for that team but that only benefits xiangling

[@AzureDrag0n1]

@@wishnanami There are several ways but the most common is Childe E > Bennett Q > Xiangling E > Sucrose auto > Sucrose E > Xiangling Q > Childe burst > Childe E. This rotation gives TTDS buff to Xiangling.

[@AzureDrag0n1]

@@lawfulgoodnun1646 No, she is worse most of the time except in single target or when enemies are already bunched up. Kazuha ability to suck everyone up from a fair distance away is the actual biggest damage increase that you can not put on sheets.

[@Hi-lu5vf]

It's so funny to think about how he's all about getting stronger, but in his best team, he's just an enabler for a spinning circle of fire

[@Azaleaaah]

I love how you collectively ignore the whole video and about the fact that Childe also contributes his damage, and can do higher damage if in aoe situations

[@ra6765]

Honestly as long as Xiangling remains the only viable pyro subdps i dont think hes gonna stretch much beyond international.. bloom teams can still be explore though but likely not gonna be as strong as the old childe benny xl kaz..

[@eludeirkz7961]

even if there is a better sub pyro dps, Xiangling would probably still be childes best option due to the internal cooldown on application, they just dont release characters with that anymore like Xianglings.

[@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person]

If we had someone with a pyro application as absurd as Xiangling's... they could even have weaker scaling than hers or having some BS conditions to do so like drain health like Neuvilette's, while having enough ER to not need another pyro char as battery or ER sands. I hope Arlecchino will be a "pyro childe" with Fontaine HP stuff, then her sub-dps could be someone that works for both teams and/or Lyney for a mono-pyro for her that doesn't include the international team, or maybe she could work in Childe teams as sub-dps too, replacing Xiangling, although she kinds gives vibes that she'll be an on-fielder.

[@ra6765]

@@eludeirkz7961 yeah the only thing that can make a pyro subdps better than xiangling is to remove their ics and make their attacks snapshot. Idk why hoyo is so adamant in refusing to make more chara like that

[@ra6765]

@@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person same id rather arlecchino be unique main dps on her own just like wanderer and childe thus far. I want to see her in action more rather than boring quickswap teams. But honestly id take anything, even her being a healer or shielder, anything, other than pyro specfic support like shenhe is to cryo. That wud make me livid

[@luck002]

Hope Murata is a 5 star Xiangling.

[@XernuhtZwei]

He's still one of the most fun characters to run to this day, which is sad considering I only grabbed him on his first rerun because I wanted him and Rosaria.

[@jaspersiron1041]

What happened to Childe? He’s U N D E R T H E S E A 🐳 🐳 🐳

[@LiinIsAGamer]

For a very long time, International was my main team. Even though it's soft-benched, the way I got each member will always stand out to me. Childe - rolled for him on his second banner to spite my ex who lost 50/50 Kazuha - rolled for him on his day 1 release with no prior knowledge of his potential because I just loved his design Bennett - single-handedly saved my account when I increased my world level before I was ready, allowing my Diluc to keep up with the difficulty increase Xiangling - literally spent YEARS on the Starglitter Shop and Lantern Rite to get her to C4+ because I NEVER got her on a banner

[@kathhoho7667]

Some other things about childe: he’s never been the main character, but he’s often like the comic relief character, one easily forgotten and not in the center of attention, but is always around and you appreciate his presence. His long-standing memes also help keep him around, often it’s like “oh yea, HIM” kinda thing. In terms of gameplay, iirc he still has the fastest hydro application to this day, thanks to his riptides. Also makes extremely satisfying aoe gameplay. His complex playstyle is also a nice challenge for people who want it. There’s also been constantly things that were added throughout the years that worked well with him. Idk tho maybe this is just a childe main rambling on lol

[@Azaleaaah]

What how was he never the main character? He was the main antagonist of Liyue and he's one of the main driving force of Fontaine (specifically in 4.1). The main reason why traveler went to prison was literally to investigate Childe. Anytime he appears even if it is just events (which is really only once as 3.2 event was bs) people speculate he will die

[@TheGelieace]

How is he the comic relief character?? Like seriously, where did this strange notion come from?? The memes?? Dont tell me u take memes so seriously oh lord

[@Azaleaaah]

@@TheGelieace my reaction exactly. And never the main attention? The whole 4.1 quest was mainly about him and Osial happened because of him