What happened to Fallout's Dwarfs? | Fallout Lore

Over the years Fallout has changed several times over, but through it all certain things have remained largely the same, The Brotherhood of Steel wants to preserve technology, Super Mutants want to transform humans using FEV and The Enclave yearns for world domination, however many things have been lost along the way, certain factions and creatures have been forgotten, including Dwarfs.
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[@Nick.t.S]

They obviously evolved into the numerous gnomes we encounter.

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

Lmao

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

​@@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian That account name is brilliant, Lol.

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 thank yew 😗. It used to be better when youtube displayed last names lol now it only shows first names. It was in full: Black Nonbinary Disabled Lesbian In A Wheelchair 🤣

[@TheRealDickGrayson]

​@@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbianOoh someone's edgy.

[@syndicalistcat3138]

@@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian 🤣

[@zlostnypopolnik]

Maybe Peter Dinklage sabotaged it.

[@iamrobberino2107]

He's notorious for being easily offended, so I wouldn't be surprised 😂

[@matthewwarne2994]

Like he did to the newest snow white

[@ShishouDzukiZaManako]

"if i can't be apex midget, then no one will" -Dinklage fiddling with FEV

[@iamrobberino2107]

@ShishouDzukiZaManako HAHAHAHAHAHA You won the internet with that comment buddy 🤣 here, have a like!

[@lucascoval828]

"DAMMIT, PETER!!!"

[@janemba42]

Curious there are only 7 in the entire series. Fallout and the seven Dwarfs.

[@danilodesouza6461]

Now it needs a 14 yo girl with hair dark as night, skin pale as snow and lips red as blood

[@MassiveSteamingPile]

There are other nameless npc dwarves like when you enter the hub some are working on the caravans

[@king_fisherXX]

@@danilodesouza6461Watch her be Latina 💀

[@VorynDagoth]

@@danilodesouza6461 CMON DOWN TO THE ATOMIC WRANGLER (Get it because the crier's VA has dark hair. And fair skin. And lips. And was 14 when she did those lines)

[@davidvangerner7241]

I wonder what the fallout version of vampires elves werewolves and fairies would look like

[@iamrobberino2107]

They made their own shelters... "halls as far as the eye can see, littered with gold!" - Gimli

[@davidvangerner7241]

Imagine a total war fallout game with the fallout dwarfs as a playable faction

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

Why didn't the Courier just fly the cazadors to the Lucky 38 to drop the platinum chip into Mount Doom?

[@iamrobberino2107]

@@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer This guy is asking the right question!!!🤷‍♂️💯

[@iamrobberino2107]

@@davidvangerner7241 Dude, I would join the dwarves every single time i played, digging deep tunnels under the mojave and fill them with bottle caps!! 👌

[@davidvangerner7241]

​@@iamrobberino2107i wonder what the dwarf faction would be like in fallout new vegas i also wonder what a fallout version of vampires from total war warhammer would be like in fallout

[@justervids]

You know Bethesda and their love for disappearing dwarves...

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

Earned themselves a front-page spot in The Book.

[@MyNameIsRuin2119]

There was a tiny raider in fallout 3… he was in one of the satellite array towers… I always wondered what the backstory might’ve been

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Also a tiny gangster that's the floor manager in Gomorrah, easily a foot taller than even the female NPCs making him definitely a dwarf

[@dossiebigham9113]

idk if it was a glitch or what but I encounter a female raider with a full beard once in fallout 3. It jump scared me i was playing late at night i was tired something hits me i jump in my chair turn around and i see them swinging a baseball bat at me. going "Hahahaha! wonna be my boyfriend!" I'm back peddling blasting a combat shotgun in a panic and get the shots on target and it dies.

[@AurmazlZudeh]

​@@dossiebigham9113no wayy bro

[@mascamuelassmith8088]

They are all tiny in that particular satelite tower, I think is a mistake from the devs

[@SwiftJustice]

"I wonder what the backstory is" This is the way "It's an npc in a video game!" This is not the way.

[@nathanielturner2577]

Maybe a good lore friendly explanation would be that dwarfism is comorbidity for several post apocalyptic health issues. For example, maybe their small bodies makes it easier to succumb to radiation poisoning and medicines like Rad-x and Radaway have dangerous adverse effects on people with dwarfism and they can’t take them or they need them greatly diluted.

[@thewarytraveler6375]

Instead of ghoulism they become mole rats.

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

I would kinda like to have more dwarfs in Fallout. It makes sense, radiation in the fallout universe would make genetic mutations like dwarfism a lot more common. Maybe we’d even see people with cyclopia, gigantism and other mutations too. It always confused me how… clean? A lot of people from the recent fallouts have looked. Where’s the extra thumbs, eyepatches or missing limbs due to radiation, infections or just getting gnawed off by a molerat.

[@hyruleoutlaw]

I don’t think radiation would make dwarfism more common..that’s not really how it works

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Asset creation is huge, and getting outfits and clothing to work with it, overlays, and animations, makes a lot of that hard. It's easier in F3 and New Vegas, modders have made lots of unique mutants and such, but in F4 with the overlays and more advanced animations and diversity of meshes it would be harder Ghouls alone were probably a big effort and they are core to the series and still have the same proportions

[@siggybuttbrain7026]

bro just called little people mutants hahahaha

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

@@onholyservicebound1415 Ah, yea, I guess I never thought about how they would have to make a separate version of almost every piece of clothing.

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

@@siggybuttbrain7026 While dwarfism can be hereditary, it can also be due to random mutation. So yea, little people are mutants.

[@DerivativeWorker]

Bethesda made one model rig and have been using it since Morrowind. No expense spared! I've been advocating for years that Starfield has a dwarf named "Todd."

[@myrecreationalchannel7181]

In Oblivion there are no children but I played a mod for it once that made children by just scaling down the adult model without making any other changes. I think there is at least one mod for Morrowind that probably does the same. The same method could be used here for this purpose. Granted the children in that mod looked a bit odd, real life kids aren't just scaled down adults. And it wouldn't look realistic here either. People with Dwarfism are proportioned differently from children and taller adults both. But if you don't mind doing it the janky unrealistic way then like I said it is extremely easy to do.

[@TOBAPNW_]

​@@myrecreationalchannel7181The Morrowind mod is actually made by the same person as the Oblivion one

[@myrecreationalchannel7181]

@@TOBAPNW_ The one I'm thinking of for Oblivion is a quest mod called Reapers the Dark Tower. I remember it had at least one kid in it. I've no idea if reaper9111 made any Morrowind mods or not. Though I doubt there is only one mod for each game that has children in it so we may well be thinking of different mod authors. Reapers The Dark Tower is just the only mod with children that I myself have played for the game.

[@TOBAPNW_]

@@myrecreationalchannel7181 I'm almost certain it was reapers9111 who made both mods. I'm not aware of the mod you're talking about; I was referring to a standalone mod that added several children to the worldspace. There may very well be several mods for each game, but the ones by reaper9111 were the only ones I found on the nexus recently after a brief search

[@HellbirdIV]

One way to "include" a person with dwarfism without actually having to make a model would be - outside of the obvious like HoloTapes - a Super Mutant character telling you how they were born extremely short, and either voluntarily to 'fix' their height, or because being smaller made them more vulnerable to being kidnapped, were transformed into a Super Mutant and now use their new size and strength to get revenge on the people who abused them for their height in the past.

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

I think they might not even need a different model. They could edit skeletons to change proportions. I know a few Skyrim mods that do that.

[@pandapig6663]

Now this got me thinking about gigantism, it would make a cool mini-boss in a game, like Andre the giant character in a boxing ring like with the Mike Tyson character in Fallout 2. Though I could easily see this just being replaced with a Super-Mutant

[@Thunderous333]

Let's be honest Frank Horrigan might as well have been that.

[@whambamrabbitman6770]

Closest thing we have are the inhabitants of point lookout

[@obtuse186]

Isn't pre-mutation Frank Horrigan basically described as being a giant? Like he was already an incredibly imposing figure before being infected with the FEV

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Gigantism is actually more common in 3D fallouts than it was in the 2D games. There are several huge characters in New Vegas for instance, and a few in Fallout 3. Charon the ghoul, maybe not giant but huge, Aurelius of phoenix, jean baptiste cutting, and cook cook are all about 7 feet tall. Legate Lanius is closer to like 8 feet tall

[@skillmaster119]

Legate lanius was huge tho

[@loganisanerd5566]

In a perfect world, I think it would be amazing to not only include dwarfism in NPCs and character creation, but also missing limbs (either with or without prosthetics). It would be too much effort for Bethesda, but it would be cool to see all sorts of people scraping by in the apocalypse. Plus, think of the cyborg possibilities with Fallout tech prosthetics...

[@SalusFuturistics]

You have to consider how many Players even want to play Characters with missing Limbs or Midgets. And if that's worth the Effort.

[@umpxfajmzann]

​@@SalusFuturisticslook up kenshi, youd be surprised.

[@annabelcunningham2848]

@@SalusFuturistics I know that at least missing limbs get used a lot purely for cool factor

[@SalusFuturistics]

@@annabelcunningham2848 Now are you talking missing Lim Amputees or are you talking Cybernetic Prosthetics? Those are different Things.

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

And possible mutation options.

[@zekun4741]

Long story *short*, dwarfs were cut because development time was too *short*

[@cyriell]

Meh doubt it myself probably more because it would highly likely cause a shitshow amongst snowflakes and pc principles

[@MJH72996]

"Do you remember the Dwarve Wars? I don't imagine you would. That was a long time ago."

[@gamiezion]

it's not a story mr. house would tell us is it?

[@crystalpapers6590]

They struck the heart of lorkh- Oops wrong series

[@korbyynbear5592]

They had models for short humans (children) in the later games they could have adapted, but I think (purely speculation) they were overly cautious in not wanting anything that could be construed as violence towards youth they just left it out entirely.

[@current9300]

They might also have just been god awfully annoying to fight due to being short, so maybe it was for the best regarding that.

[@smitty1647]

@@current9300 just give them normal or even below average health if they're that bad, which i don't think simply aiming down would have been that bad

[@secretjake]

It sucks how 90% of the answers to the questions asked in these videos is "Bethesda couldn't be bothered to do it". The 3d games can feel so hollow. Fallout 4 is downright tedious at times.

[@myrecreationalchannel7181]

In Oblivion there are no children but I played a mod for it once that made children by just scaling down the adult model without making any other changes. I think there is at least one mod for Morrowind that probably does the same. The same method could be used here for this purpose. Granted the children in that mod looked a bit odd, real life kids aren't just scaled down adults. And it wouldn't look realistic here either. People with Dwarfism are proportioned differently from children and taller adults both. But if you don't mind doing it the janky unrealistic way then like I said it is extremely easy to do.

[@packlesswolf1]

Dude fallout 3 is awesome.

[@TheAsylumCat]

​@myrecreationalchannel7181 they did the same for kids in cyberpunk and it had some...Unintended consequences. Also, if I recall correctly, certain types of dwarfism has the head develop to its full size before childbirth.

[@Helperbot-2000]

@@packlesswolf1 hahaha, good one chief! XD

[@Jolis_Parsec]

The children mod for Morrowind at least got around having to use scaled down versions of the adult races by having child versions of the vanilla game’s clothing, though it was funny to give your own Nerevarine said clothing through the use of the console and watch him basically become a Ken doll as a result. 😂

[@NiskaMagnusson]

it would be cool to see a normal character that happens to have a condition such as dwarfism, rather than it defining their whole personality/character like in some puddle-thin depth writing of some bethesda NPCs

[@fartingforkeeps]

My theory is that there are people who have genetic dwarfism, but you just can't tell. The FO universe is full of examples of gigantism caused by the radiation that covers the planet; mole rats, radscorpions, mirelurks, etc. I think it had the same effect on people with dwarfism, so they all just look like regular-sized people.

[@kingofhearts3185]

I guess we have that one casino floor manager in Gomorrah, he's a bit shorter than yhe player. Decanus Severus and Legate Lanius are a bit taller too. I think it's just adjusting the height of the character model by %10.

[@cbowd]

I always just assumed they were included in the first two as a nod to the radiation causing a lot of genetic conditions and disabilities, and then they weren't modeled and put in 3+ because the makers thought using little people to give creepy mutant vibes was kind of fucked up for actual little people.

[@themurmeli88]

Considering they put in bunch of inbred mutant yokels to point lookout... I doubt it was anything beyond they just didn't think about it.

[@smitty1647]

@@themurmeli88 literally nobody cares about stereotyping rural folk. there's not gonna be an outcry on twitter because some piece of media uses the term redneck or similar

[@janschievink1586]

Nah the juice just wasn't worth the squeeze they wouldn't have had that many Little People as NPCs and they probably wouldn't have done anything they weren't already doing with regular humans or Ghouls if they wanted to tell a minorities/discrimination story. They had a two-stories tall glowing one that they couldn't get working and the centaurs from The Fallout 4 concept art look absolutely deranged Bethesda just really have to pick their battles for some reason.

[@Shawnmiller1903]

With the more deadly commonwealth mod it adds raider migits along with other enemies like giant raiders that tower over you.

[@mina7572]

There just aren't any more than the 7 dwarfs, it's just that simple.

[@nak3dxsnake]

They can't outrun everyone around them. If you meet one you can bet they are deadly.

[@joetuktyyuktuk8635]

It's quite obvious what happened to the Dwarf genome. Being able to, due to their size, grabbed and tossed back whole by Deathclaws, much like reaching into a bowl of peanut M&M's... is a rather large impediment to your survival. I would like to see their return, maybe a Dwarf Super Mutant, riding around on the back of another Super Mutant ala Master-Blaster, from Road Warrior.... 🤣

[@LyricClock-fo8he]

Nah they went ROCK AND STONE and went to deep rock

[@admiral_franz_von_hipper5436]

Did I hear a rock and stone?

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

They hijacked a Zetan ship to go mine the stars

[@LyricClock-fo8he]

ROCK AND STONE!

[@cyriell]

Rock and stone! (Just reading this i hear it in their voices)

[@jynxthaclown3995]

Not only would dwarfs be a realistic addition to the newer games but so would people with missing limbs, eyes, etc. in the wasteland I feel like it’s very common to lose a hand in your adventures. Idk I know it’s a lot of work but we really only need like 3-6 unique character models

[@captainteutonica5474]

Before talking to Stuart I didn't realize vampires came in his size.

[@sourlesscream1272]

a simple lore reason could be that people with dwarfism found it harder to survive and had a shorter life expectancy due to complications with the disease making them incredibly rare. Shoot, even modern day dwarfism shortens the life expectancy of those affected by it, some even being unable to have children because of it, limiting the gene further. But the real reason is like you said, it would be way more effort to include them into the 3D games then it was back then.

[@jaketakenobreak]

i think it has mostly to do with a lack of care or thought or perhaps even laziness. most people dont really keep people with dwarfism in mind especially when implimenting them as characters in any given title.

[@tengkualiff]

Yes that is what is implied with the resources part of the video.

[@Grinningfartking6969]

They only had so much capability prior to release alot of things got cut before release

[@janschievink1586]

​@@tengkualiff Changing animations for NPCs at different scales AKA how tall they are is a complete pain in the urethra in Bethesda's engine.

[@MrJuliansnow]

Dwarfs went to the same place where brooms went. Forgotten that they existed.

[@BlackShogun]

Thanks to a set of mods, I was able to make a Dwarf character with a variety of hammers, specialize in Blacksmithing and establish my cave settlement in Zimonja

[@RedDogForge]

they retreated into the the mountain range once known as the rockies, and now refer to themselves as the dweamer

[@nakitaeisan3238]

Great video as always

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

There's a reason why it's extremely uncommon to see NPCs with dwarfism in this type of game. It requires a completely unique rig, animations, and model, all for something that doesn't actually impact gameplay. Those are resources that could be used to add new enemies to the game, instead. Additionally, if you're using motion capture for animations, then it requires finding and paying an entire additional actor just for that one NPC. Most video games are published with at-most 75% of everything the developers wanted to put into the game. When you're already cutting entire levels, characters and mechanics from your project to meet the budget, something like NPC variety is the last thing on your mind.

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

...Or you could just scale down (and slightly tweak) an adult model. Most of the work modders have done for free is more complex than that.

[@barkbuck5521]

Wonder if Stuart Little was also a jab at Little Mac from Punch Out.

[@Matt-md5yt]

I was thinking the mouse but plausible on both accounts

[@ryanedwards3327]

i know this is a video on the dwarves of fallout, but at the beginning that corvega Ad is actually scary close to what modern high end cars go for.

[@unoriginalperson72]

I tell ya they're still out there somewhere! Once I saw a dwarf in the mojave and when i got close I realised it was just a merchant halfway in the ground...but they're still out there I bet!

[@tyrongkojy]

Because Beth only does one real skeleton for characters, and Obsidian were using F3 assets.

[@renat1786]

Nice vid, haven't noticed this aspect of the game. Waited for mentioning of disappearance of dwarven in TES universe lol

[@ruanguarett1037]

I NEED MORE FALLOUT VIDS

[@ZerqTM]

wait... Iguana bits.... human part re-branded as "Iguana bits".... good grief... you can still find that in fallout4..... Ok new rule of thumb... avoid all mystery meat!

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Haven't watched the video yet but Fallout 4 is literally the first game in the 3D fallout series where we had so much as body morphs, and they were pretty inferior to what most modern RPGs offer. It's just an asset issue, no use making a whole new body for a few characters, they didn't even make separate bodies for boy and girl kids or for old people or different races(All races have the same head just lazily morphed, nv and 3 needed mods to make decent looking ethnic characters) But there are some dwarves, in New Vegas there is an italian midget in Gomorrah, I'm sure there is more but they are just scaled down, but proportionate.

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Well, the video pretty much nailed it yeah 👌 with the exception that there is a dwarf in Gomorrah

[@ActionQuackson]

Thanks for the video!

[@the1flym459]

It would make sense if dwarfism became less and less common over time due to the effects of low-level FEV exposure accumulating over successive generations. The virus would likely view it as an imperfection and would try to "correct" it, so it’s not unreasonable to assume that any carriers of the genes responsible for the condition to have that segment of DNA "patched out" after even minor exposure to FEV. Since all other Fallout games (with the exception of 76) take place after 1 & 2, this could be a canon explanation as to why dwarfs are less common/completely nonexistent in the later games

[@kingofhearts3185]

Might explain why nobody is too tall either since extreme heights are associated with various health problems, maybe the FEV normalized everyone's height to the one with the lowest potential for complications.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

It's not necessarily genetics that cause it, but that'd account for a lot. Enough to suspend disbelief (if I even cared. Honestly I never noticed the lack of dwarfs. I don't care about "being represented." Sometimes the body just has a bit of an oopsie and hits puberty too hard, and as a result growth stops. The bones in my hand were fully fused about a year after I hit puberty. Sometimes you just get unlucky lol

[@XXMatt0040XX]

​@@kingofhearts3185 Depends on how "Evolution" is defined I guess. Because if it's only to reproduce: Agreed. But if it's to keep humanity alive as long as possible, it'd do the opposite. Assuming there's no major deformities a short person lives longer. It's a video game so ofc they'd be taller, but it's an interesting thing anyway.

[@kingofhearts3185]

@@XXMatt0040XX I'm just spitballing a lore reason for everyone being the same height, obviously it's just an engine thing.

[@mappingshaman5280]

But fallout 3, new vegas and 4 all take place within living memory of fallout 2

[@The_Alt_Vault]

Truly the question that we needed to know the answers too, but none until this grate man asked it.

[@megatronjenkins2473]

Dr. Lesko And The Mysterious F.E.V. Sample!

[@pizzasharkguy3807]

They did Micky DIRTY.

[@libirdinowski6270]

love your videos dude

[@Dank-gb6jn]

Perhaps BGS didn’t want to go down the whole “Watto” rabbit hole.

[@silent_stalker3687]

Even then the developers haven’t added them to the game after fallout 2 It’s more just ‘oh that’s a mutant?!’ Kind of deal. Remember this is movie logic: Radiation makes things big or undead it doesn’t make them shrink.

[@Dank-gb6jn]

@@silent_stalker3687 yeah...they haven’t been included, likely because BGS didn’t want to either cause a *new* controversy over “inaccurate” or “inappropriate” portrayal; or have a repeat of George Lucas’s “Watto” fiasco which was generally considered highly offensive. -I’m not arguing over “movie logic” or what have you, I’m saying that despite what Synonymous believes; I think BGS made a decision that would spare them the ire of the PC-Principle brigades. The OG Fallouts came about in a different time, where devs could be off the wall as much as they wanted, nowadays you have to carefully walk the eggshell path.

[@noonie6872]

@@Dank-gb6jn Pretending that cancelling ever does anything or really matters, why are you using the weird bug elephant alien thing from Star Wars as proof positive that BGS made the choice not to include people with dwarfism to avoid controversy? I promise you that if they included a few characters with it and wrote them as just regular people no one would bat an eye or even care beyond making some people pretty happy. If I were fishing for things to be politically correct about in fallout it'd be that the super mutants could be construed as an analogue for the mentally handicapped. But no one makes that argument, even though how BGS handles the mutants is hot garbage.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

​@@noonie6872 Regular people absolutely would take notice, and it would spawn a giant controversy for no reason. Some would make jokes, some would be outraged, you get the idea. But make no mistake, the tallest dwarf possible still gets made fun of for it by "regular people." It's like a 50/50 split in my experience.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@noonie6872 Are you seriously still pretending that cancelling does nothing in this day and age?

[@alisalar84]

The day you upload is a day made for me ❤️

[@tacticool_weeb8450]

Same thing that happened to the squats… the deathclaws ate them. Until they come back as the league of the boneyard

[@ventedbus4917]

I thought this was about DIGGY DIGGY HOLE dwarves not irl short people 💀

[@stevenschnepp576]

You mean they're not the same thing?

[@elliott1996jsr]

Ahhhhh so the Dwemer went extinct here I wonder if DJ Kagranak tried beating a tune on the heart of liberty prime just like their huge underground rave where they dj kagranak dropped the beat so hard he sent his entire race into the fallout universe

[@nooneinparticular5273]

Not all dwarves are gone. I mean, look at the Gommorrah floor manager. That's a little guy right there. I can picture him diggin holes and crafting some fine armor.

[@Nedzilla345]

I always thought it was FEV, or they were mutated into a Chimera variant.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

You've just made the original centaurs even more horrifying to me... I never thought about that. Most *large dogs* weigh more than me. it's not a stretch to say The Master thought "oh these are convenient."

[@DarthT15]

Bethesda knew the wasteland couldn't handle the rock and stone.

[@kriswinklmann6401]

I don't think there's kids in oblivion.

[@alexbenavidez4500]

Its so refreshing when you finally hear an answer that isn't "political correctness gone wild!" It terms of why GameStudios cut elements or diversity in games That whole political argument has pretty much de-evolved to the backlash of the backlash

[@BNK2442]

I tough they disappeared after thst guy used those instruments on that robot.

[@devinmaher7359]

I think its cuz its a genetic issue that effects 1 out of every 25,000 people. fallout 3, new vegas, 4 and 76 probably doesnt even Reach 10,000 people. raiders included. additionally the dwarfs are in california while only new vegas is close in comparison to this location, but its a war torn region. I would just assume the people affected by the radiation that turn into dwarfs would follow the caravans west for safety. it also might have something to do with A ratings as you can't kill kids. so by the developers saying "its not a child, its a grown man but looks like one" could be seen as a weird work around to allow people to kill "children"

[@jeremiahsafford1389]

Hopefully this video will plant a seed for more inclusion in future Fallout games.

[@apocaRUFF]

Lol I just realized the Iguana guy was supposed to be Iguana Bob and it probably was human on the stick.

[@Segafishy]

There is a few in 3 and NV that are very short but not sure they were intended as having Dwarfism, one most meet is the Manager in the Gamorrah. My thought is simply survival for those with disabilities, sometimes the birth can be more difficult and then they may need to rely on others for getting food and water and sadly in the Wasteland medical help and just good people are in short supply, would be nice to see adaptions though, like a wheelchair user whose chair is made from robot parts or a blind or death person guided by mole rats etc.

[@onholyservicebound1415]

idk man that floor manager is literally up to the chest of a female player character, I would say he's about 4'10", legal dwarfism, though maybe with the italian mobster background they were going for more of a Joe Pesci vibe, but I count him as a dwarf

[@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2]

Maybe they joined the Dwemer?

[@soulsmith4787]

A lot of media seemingly doesn't think that people who are less than 5'7" exist. It would be nice if games with worlds analogous to our own, or that represent alternate timelines, featured people who are _vertically challenged._

[@rigorgrynn4469]

Easy, skaven from below ogres from above. Never stood a chance.

[@davidvangerner7241]

I wonder what the skaven from warhammer fantasy would be like in fallout

[@AlexSmith-dy3oh]

Maybe they built a rocket like the hubologists, then went on to form a mining company

[@GothamGamingReviews]

I think a logical reason why we don't run into anyone with dwarfism in the later games could be chalked up to it just not being a common genetic mutation. Just from googling it, about 1 in 15 thousand to 40 thousand people have the dwarfism gene. Take into account that not every descendant expresses signs of the mutation compounded with the extreme loss of population, it's not infeasible that we just haven't met anyone with dwarfism in the latest games. Of course, it really is down to just Bethesda not wanting to make the models for them, which I agree is disappointing. It would be much more interesting to have a wider variety of characters populating the wasteland, but Bethesda can barely make their characters look human, so.

[@darklordinateur]

Synonymous has to have chosen this theme because of the whole Snow White leaks and controversies, there's no way haha!

[@1800DOOF]

Stewart Little was the greatest boxer of the wasteland. ALWAYS hits below the belt.

[@michaelhagel1149]

My theory would be the average height and build of people has steadily decreased with the reduced availability of food along with requiring more food or water which is radioactive likely killing them, turning them into ghouls, or sterilizing them. So, fallout 5 better have giant 6ft ghouls and tiny average people.

[@kylekent4464]

I'll support this theory with the fact that moving trains in Fallout 3 were NPCs wearing train cars as hats

[@Spicystachegamer]

Van buren was going to have a dwarf companion apparently.

[@Seth-Halo]

Reminds me of animals in Pokemon. You don't see them because there isn't really a need to spend time money and resources on doing this. And if they do this then they might as well add a billion other things. But devs can't add everything to make a world feel 100% immersive.

[@013wolfwarrior]

They stayed underground when Daring danger dashwood collapsed the entrance in his escape

[@stevenschnepp576]

Erased the dwarfs? *That's going in the Book!*

[@j.troydoe1278]

"Out of the way, Peck!"

[@maximus4765]

They probably just intermarried with ordinary humans until there weren't any left. Viola.

[@majinjason]

Lol, head cannon: they didnt disappear. The radiation(surface) and inbreeding(vaults) made everyone a drawf so now there is no such thing, or a drawf be even smaller. Which means super mutants are actually average height.

[@jacehackworth6413]

This is Bethesda we’re talking about. They made up lore for khajiit that they have many different forms, then included a single one in morrowind, then a single even more human like one in the next two games. Nick valentine is human shaped and still can’t even change armor. Their new game set in space seemingly has no humanoid aliens. You can’t even play as a ghoul. They aren’t going to go out of their way to add something that takes that many resources, and will be seen as offensive by one crowd or the other anyway.

[@flindude2681]

I think main reason is that 3d character creator makes creating dwarves inconvenient. Notice how in the retro games you have a few character models but a few extream bodytypes, including fat one. Current games all characters are made with to same character creator as player. No one in 3 NV or 4 is anywhere near as fat as Gizmo, or big jesus, all you get is skinny malone who for a fat person is half as fat as a real fatty.

[@honkhonk8119]

Btw love your vids, can you do a vid on sky net? And AI in fallout? It would be cool to see your take on it :)

[@micaiah3941]

What was the three legged creature in the well

[@megatronjenkins2473]

My mother.

[@frankwargoiv7335]

It's probably tied to the reason why Skyrim doesn't have Dwarves, perhaps Todd doesn't like them. Also noticed we didn't cover "Stockman" for a man of a stocky nature. :P

[@SMunro]

The places you described? Some of those communities I didn't encounter.

[@Synonymous101]

They're difficult to miss.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

They could just scrunch the standard model down. Fallout 4 had some better body shape customization, so I think they could have pulled it off. Or hell, just take the Zetan alien model and adjust it to be human, they're also short.

[@ShishouDzukiZaManako]

that dev time went to the shitty children.... that everyone wants to kill.... for good reason.

[@DrakeDiablo]

I am very early into the video but not having them makes perfect sense. With fallout being a natural selection breeding ground it would kill out a lot of maladies that without the help we currently provide would die out. For example naturally blind/deaf people would die quickly eliminating those traits. Mentally handicapped individuals would follow suit.

[@kaidorade1317]

Wait there are Dwarves in Fallout lore? Well bless my beard!

[@willsander6178]

I wonder if dwarfism would be beneficial in a post apocalyptic scenario. Less calories but also less intimidation/strength. I think any answer would depend on nutrition and the pressures around specific groups/areas.

[@Cawktism]

One of the companions in Fallout New Egypt is a dwarf

[@Matt-md5yt]

Sounds awesome

[@coyotestarship7412]

So wait, the dwarves from elder scrolls transported themselves to the fallout timeline

[@charleswiley9562]

There actually is at least one dwarf in follow new Vegas. The Gomorrah floor manager is noticeably smaller than anyone else. Also, Sunny Smiles is notably short as well. Also, just fun fact the brother from Silver Rush, he's a giant

[@Synonymous101]

Those characters are only 10% smaller than the player and not classed as "dwarfs"

[@charleswiley9562]

@Synonymous101 let's be honest any guy noticeably short will be treated like a dwarf

[@janschievink1586]

I don't remember any of those people having noticeably deviant height, either you're all getting Mandela-Effect or Yukichigai Unofficial Patch has Hands.

[@Captain.AmericaV1]

*They also like to drink alcohol and somehow, regardless where they were born, always have a Scottish accent!!*

[@bushguy6339]

Im back and when will you start making the lone wanderer lore?

[@BrettCaton]

I know. Peter Dinklage. He said it was offensive to Dwarves to have Dwarves in fiction. He said that whilst pulling a ladder up behind him, I don't know what that was all about.

[@N2Jay]

I think their last appearance was in Fallout New Vegas where we encountered 2 of them: Veronica & Christine, both standing at 5’4

[@Synonymous101]

5'4 isn't even close to 4'10

[@onholyservicebound1415]

Besides that, 5'4" is an assumption, there is no consistent average height for fallout characters, first off the player characters have the same height regardless of gender, and given the average nutrition of the wasteland we can't at all assume a modern american height. People were shorter when there was worse health care, hell, the tallest country in the western world? Iceland, actually is genetically predisposed to being short(They literally have a gene for shorter height) yet they are huge due to diet, so For all we know the average height is like 5'6" for an NPC, making veronica a bit shorter, and the floor manager at gomorrah easily around 4'10"

[@thewarytraveler6375]

As mutations in man they are much more complex, and often come with a myriad of other health issues and diseases. Now as an evolved sub species of man in an irradiated post apocalyptic future?

[@averagejoe455]

The plural of Dwarf is Dwarves

[@TOBAPNW_]

That's a Tolkienism

[@BloodwyrmWildheart]

@@TOBAPNW_ No, it's an alternative, and a far more common one at that. Arguing about this is the equivalent of debating "Aluminum" vs "Aluminium".

[@TOBAPNW_]

@@BloodwyrmWildheart It is indeed an alternative form; and absolutely more common with regards to fantasy. This being due to the influence of Tolkien.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@BloodwyrmWildheart Aluminum is the correct one. Aluminium just came about because the British are pretentious.

[@omegamark9178]

WHOA,WHOA! FALLOUT HAS,OR HAD,DWARVES???