What Happened To Galio? - Why NO ONE Plays Him Anymore | League of Legends

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[@VarsVerum]

I can't math... How the heck did I think 6 x 5 was 40... ._.

[@aliusman3071]

I beg of u do one abt gnar

[@marksplatchel3988]

Wait....i thought it was 11

[@CorruptTypes]

@@aliusman3071i forgot 5 x 2 so its fine

[@ahmadbugshan9603]

as Asian or part Asian idk this hurt my heart and soul

[@gespacho0902]

master ranked player ladies and gentlemen

[@Grupodellol]

As a galio main, I think that the main problem is the lack of range. In midlane you either need:range to be able to farm properly or a good all in combo so at least you can be a thread in close range. Galio lacks both of this due to being a tank. And in support, removing the W+flash combo makes his engage range really short. That's a resume of my thoughts, but I could be wrong.

[@Eldex0]

He is supposed to be a tank that cant build tank is what makes it frustrating. He has an identity crisis, because the only thing that riot comes up with is nerfing his magic shield.

[@sortilien2099]

i main him tank, and i love him, he lack a little more MR ratios. mobility is enough in most case. But Galio as an issue for teamfight 50% of the time he need someone to engage before he follows with Ult.

[@ItsJustKaya]

He id basically my Allrounder check for many assassins. Exept zed( good luck at blocking his ult animation) and talon bc you never see talon on lane after 6

[@delusionofillusion473]

u have range , a good all in combo , he is really good right now , but he has hard counters

[@Aspect_of_the_idiot]

Galio started out as a tank but Riot thought it would be a good idea and change him in to an ap bruiser since at the time there was only one and I believe it was Mordekaiser. Would have to check it but he was originally a tank just look at his rework spotlight

[@saka7597]

He is more of a utility pick rather than a pure damage pick and people usually prefer to play carry champions

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

yes, he's got 2 knock-ups, an aoe taunt, a free magic shield and he can give his allies the shield if they stand in his ULT area. yeah I'd say you pick him did the utility.

[@PikachuPolice]

@DarkestSpyrro not in lol pc..wr map is small plus champion abilities are big..

[@psalmyyvan]

I just wish he had more MR, it's his supposed identity. If Malphite can have 300-400 armor with passive up, I hope Galio was like that too

[@duckymomo7935]

It’s kinda dumb how his passive scales with levels, AP, Hp and MR making armor a not so efficient stat

[@imluxannabitch9322]

Because that would be FUCKING OP. The difference between AD champ and AP champ is that AD champs can maintain their damage infinitely because most of it come from auto attack, AP CANT (mostly). 95% AP champ have mana which mean they cant use their abilities forever and that would be impossible for them to deal with a 400 MR Galio. Thats why MR is meant to be lower than armor most of the time.

[@psalmyyvan]

@@imluxannabitch9322 stop crying. I didn't say it has to be that high. But higher than current. Void staff has 45% pen, higher than the 35% pen for armor. Also MR items are bad compared to Armor ones. And who cares if Galio goes to 400 MR, pure AP team comps are rare and bad anyways.

[@longstar5001]

@@imluxannabitch9322 i mean yea i didnt read the full comment but i already expected a mage player to be pissed in the replies

[@KoreanGamer9414]

@@longstar5001 mage players acting like they arent busted this patch im with you brother

[@babygirlvenere]

I think Galio works *really* well as the only anti-magic tank in the game (Kassadin is an assassin and does not count). Lower the cc duration on his abilities, maybe the AP scaling of his Q (keep the base damage, though, he needs the waveclear), and exchange it for lower cooldowns on his taunt and knockup. give him consistent disruption.

[@namishusband818]

I think Galio should have a mechanic where he literally "eats" magic. Petricite is supposed to nullify and absorb magic, but he just plays like an average AP bruiser.

[@galio2012]

He already has some of the lowest CC numbers in the game for the windup he needs for 'good' numbers. (Even then it's not amazing).

[@pearse2944]

I think a slight slow on q might help so that he can use it to engage with e more reliably, I prefer him as tank in the jungle and just play him as an anti ap team counter pick similar to how someone picks Rammus into an ad team.

[@pearse2944]

@@reyalfa18 I think that’s fair and as problematic his e is when it comes to just being practical it is just too satisfying to get rid of in my opinion.

[@pearse2944]

I think that could be a potential just passive on his q I just feel like his e is iconic now. I’d also be worried about how that would affect his w balance wise. I think a slow on q would be more fair than extra move speed because it’s easier to try counter for the enemies with swift boots or mercs yk.

[@lowceyn2875]

In a season where MMR is scuffed and you can't trust your teammates, you always prefer playing carry instead of utility because they feel more rewarding. Nothing is wrong with Galio imo just this factor

[@kix3189]

Surprisingly I feel more rewarded from landing a good hook, clutch cc to save a teammate, than actually one-shotting someone. I guess there are all kinds of players out there ;P (And... I'm a Wild Rift player. Maybe that's the case xD) As for Galio it's probably that cooldowns issue Vars mentioned. It feels really bad, to play a powerful, massive tank, who simply dies when his W misses. Give my man some cooldown reduction.

[@lowceyn2875]

@@kix3189 Landing a hook is carrying you know what i mean, everything that your skill overwhelms the opponent is carrying which is better than buffing your team this season

[@yassineattia6679]

@@lowceyn2875 not sure that a buffing yuumi/lulu is weak this season. Otherwise I can't understand their huge banrate. Beinh a peel champion is good, landing a 4 man taunt is carrying too as a hook or even more. The issue does not come from the meta since you can see both peel and hard CC champions in this season. It relies on the champion design, maybe lack of range? Maybe hybrid is not the good way to go? I don't really kbow about this, prob a bit from both

[@anthonybothe3501]

Good point. Tough to play utility when no one follows up with it

[@gustas8048]

Galio can be used quite proactively with hero's entrance, he just needs a teammate to enable him. Something like a rammus engage, camille ult engage, j4, alistar and so on. If a carry, or realistically any teammate is locked down enemies often try to help, however due to galios nature you make that play suicide

[@KitsuneRogue]

There have been so many times such a thing has happened to, and against me with and vs a galio that I can easily say that relying on a galio's ulti to keep your engage alive is not a surefire way of thinking.

[@musechan7069]

When you say "you just need a..." It kinda explains why its kinda out of your control when youre in solo queue

[@minhchinhhoang7195]

how can you call that proactive if you're just following someone who's taking the lead?

[@gustas8048]

@@musechan7069 Well yes, it's out of your control what your teammates pick. Without a good instant engage champ galio is just so much weaker. It's to the point that unless you can get fed inlane (and you can only vs melee burst ap champs) it's almost troll to pick galio

[@MonticueGaming]

@@gustas8048 i somewhat disagree with this statement. Its true galio has a slightly harder time against ad champs, but in almost all cases of mid ad laners you will be substantially more tanky than them, generally in this matchup I play around them until they make a mistake (talon dash, zed wasting his shadow ect.) And with a Dorans shield and ignight i can almost always out trade/kill my opponents. Granted it might just be a thing with my elo, so take it with a grain of salt

[@volumeterminasm629]

So much attention to balance , love and care for the fair meta when Galio's released, then Riot smashed 10 pound of methamphetamine and snorted it all up then allowed Yone to exist.

[@hqhuy931]

I think the main problem (or the main unique point, whatever) of Galio is that he is supposed to frontline but cannot frontline - he has no defensive spells, and burning is W is detrimental to his CC, with its long cooldown. His engage, while strong, is only effective with flash e or e from brush because it can be blocked by tanks or be dodged/dislocated by hard cc. Furthermore, his Q deals a lot of damage, but 1 is only effective in mid-late if he build some ap and 2 if he build ap he becomes a suito melee zone control mage, less a tank. Despite his simple kit, Galio is deceptively hard to play, similar to TF. To master Galio mid, you need good wave management, roam timings, vision control, target selection... all the fundamentals which are so much harder to learn than, say, a qiyana combo, and is not something you "see" improve TLDR: Galio is WNOP because of the same reasons as TF. He requires a tactical brain (which is why doinb and xiaohu are both so good at him) and a good team coordination to execute - Galio mid, at least. However, he suffers from having too much damage early game vs not being able to land that damage at all in the late game, and cannot really frontline for your team the way an Alistar can but need to go in and look for picks all the same

[@utelvescaro1998]

grammar police here, it's actually "pseudo" not suito

[@christhis9597]

I like galio, but i dont think hes a particularly good antimage. He especially loses value the later the game goes. Tahm kench and mundo are tankier and do more damage, imo

[@atethebeans]

they don't have the same cc as him

[@greyhood6015]

​@@atethebeans You can make your ally invincible though.

[@ptsg]

I feel like they reworked him giving him a proper identity as a mid-line (not front or backline) champion with either damage / engage or good peel capabilities, being able to tank a hit. I used to go ROA on him (top lane) with semi ap semi tank (can't find my old build anymore). He felt great and was a very unique champion with the role he played in fights. In teamfights he had enough damage to go in if needed and enough tankiness and peel to play as a warden. Though after some changes to waveclear, tankiness and damage he was turned into yet another burst mage with some peel capabilities, but mainly just damage. Kinda almost has an identity crisis imo. Stat wise you either have to engage and play him as a melee burst mage and AP or a tanky warden without any damage. Only half of his kit is used in both instances. He lost the middleground which made him so fun to play and unique IMO.

[@MAMAJUGO]

He went from teamfight turning ults to failed Shen wannabe

[@trigas5578]

LOL that's true

[@janhaisenko5061]

Working on the 1 Million Mastery Points on Galio. I love the fact that no one is playing or banning Galio. 98% of the Matches I can play Galio, when I want to.

[@alphazero8775]

I kinda like that he can be either a tank or a burst mage. This allows creative builds. You can rush an item which gives ap (ap mythic or zhonya's) for waveclear and then just build full tank. Or if your team lacks (magic)damage, you can build more ap.

[@faizamzar1224]

Galio doesn't feel like a tank despite how he looks including his playstyle of engaging the frontlines which is akward

[@sortilien2099]

build him tank and his damage might surprise you. Sunfire, Abyssal mask, mercury's... galio deals nice damage.

[@y2tokio460]

@@sortilien2099 lies, you do that and pooff no waveclear

[@JustAguy006]

@@y2tokio460 demonic embrace + zhoynas (dmg and tankiness)

[@ricoderbaum3844]

I just love Galio as either a support and midnlaner due to the utility he provides. he may be outclssed by literally anything but I adore his Playstyle, since it's somewhat similar to what Shen is supposed to do, which I absolutely adore.

[@get5713]

nice profile picture :3

[@thebanished87]

Galio is for big dick plays

[@smugron1101]

Galio should definitely be turned into a pure tank. Reduce his AP scaling, increase his MR scaling.

[@eydis9554]

Long story short, he is outclassed as a mage and as a tank. As a mage, he deals a lot of damage but can't tank anything and vise versa. Also his spells are really predicable so he can't engage reliably. Overall he is decent as a wannabe control mage and in some matchups he can be good, but there are far better options.

[@jairartis]

I kinda disagree with that first bit, even building off tank with AP he’s still super hard to kill, his problem is he’s forced to focus most of that damage on other front liners in team fights due to how easy it is to block him, he’s shorter range, and forced to fight the first thing he collided with like 70% of the time. Everything else is right on the money though

[@kmosh8573]

Frostfire demonic gargoyle and u are ready to destroy anything even camille

[@Eldex0]

@@jairartis If you miss something as ap galio, you are doomed. Its frustrating

[@sabrinaflores795]

@@jairartis Yes, exactly! It feels frustrating to be worn down by ranged physical DPS knowing that you can deal with them if you get to them, but that never happens with a frontline/disengage. More often than not, you either only engage or only peel, as your cooldowns and limited mobility makes it hard to deal with more than one cluster of enemies.

[@MirageMancer]

Think his Q needs some more utility and lower cd. He just feels a bit bad when behind or getting shoved in due to Q being low damage per cd compared to say TF who has many advantages in the comparison.

[@tonguepop9453]

i think he needs to be what riot wanted him to be, which is a tank against magic damage. if they made him a full on engage tank that could make mages useless he could be a monster of a support.

[@millankumar9245]

Taunt flash removed

[@AJ-em2rb]

i miss the original Galio, both the look and the kit. he was in my top-3 fave champs when they remade him

[@MrZimrak]

I really want them to make galio a jungler. It’d be easy, just make his passive have reduced CD id you hit a jungle monster.

[@Zenith07]

Or you know the most obvious thing to do is just have 150% more damage to jungle camps as for most Champions given a jungle role?

[@richardbersaky]

btw he's playable in the jungle as a tank. can actually perform well. but dont pick him in ranked, try him in normals its fun. there's something ive always said to my friends: any champ is playable in all roles if you want it to

[@samehsmohamed94]

@@richardbersaky You sure didn't try Pyke in the jungle before lol, I'd guve you a trophy if you survived the first 2 camps lol

[@Zenith07]

@@samehsmohamed94 lmao, now im curious.

[@samehsmohamed94]

@@Zenith07 Well he was viable on release for sure but since they stripped him of every AOE damage he had. He simply died as a jungler. I could clear as Ashe better than him early.

[@rex9412]

He should just be a tank like give him some hp scaling's on e and his passive so building health is better so he can do more from not just mr but hp. They would also need to nerf the ap scaling's on w and e I think because then hp bruiser would also be stronger and not just tank. I play him as tank and boy is it rough when you use all your cooldowns and do 10% of their hp because the only damage you have is your passive. On the passive they could make it's cooldown scale with hp so not more damage but more often making tank galio more consistent in damage and wave clear. Making him more persistent by lowing his numbers by lowering the cooldowns would also help. They can nerf other parts of his kit like maybe even the mr scaling on passive but some extra support for tank stats would be great for him. Same with gragus. Both are ap bruisers because they are tanks that suck at being tanks. For gragus I would give him hp scaling on w damage and e damage not much like 4% bonus hp but some. I think the main issue for galio and gragus is a lack of persistent anything and support for building tank stats. They do really need to up his scaling's for tank that he has as well cause you are basically just kench but more niche. Both are wardens but kench is way tankier, can protect allies better and has a longer ranged and maybe better engage, plus he has consistent damage even late game where as galio doesn't. if they can make his damage from tank be as consistent as kenches is throughout a match by lowering base stats and uping hp and mr scaling's then he would be a lot less polarising to play. I don't want him doing kench damage cause he gets other thing. For a stone colossus that can fall kilometres out of the sky and be fine he isn't very tanky. (Also give him malphite's secret passive but for mr so you can be massive from building mr. That doesn't help him in anyway, maybe makes him worse but it would make him feel more fun to play as a tank player.)

[@lorieslori8051]

My friend is a Galio main, she now plays him exclusively support. She used to be playing him mid but said she changed due to the meta shift making most mages not viable on mid and midlane being populated by Yasuo/Yone/Irelia types and assassins

[@АспарухПетров-ш6у]

You have friends? how tell me pls

[@ItsJustKaya]

My mind stopped listening when ive heard she. Lowkey cool to hear about womans playing something else other then lux.

[@dicorockhimself]

Yeah I could see that sense support is almost all ap

[@TBPetitP]

I miss the time where mid was for mages, now all this game has are assassins everywhere, in mid, top, jungle, we even got assassin supports and adc's, like yasuo bot. I hate it because I feel the game has less and less variety, if you don't have an assassin with super damage and mobility you get nuked by assassins with damage and mobility, and because of the latter you can't hit them back or run away...

[@strshells]

@@ItsJustKaya are.. you a real person?

[@SieurMon]

The old Galio had more identity. He was a true MR-tank, with some damage thanks to his passive, with utility for the team and with cc. He just needed to polish his kit a bit. It was fun to use your shield and see how the enemy healed you. Or being able to run away or catch your enemies with the speed boost it offered. I wish I could play it now with the current changes...

[@stinkyratman]

Remove the dmg reduction AP scaling, put more utility focused mr scaling like lower E or R knockup duration and make it scale with MR or smth so that he can EITHER be played full AP burst mage OR full MR tank not half of both.

[@QuestionableLogic_]

Galio is one of those champions where you run into an extremely good main once in a blue moon, they completely stomps you, you go "wow I've gotta try that champ", and then you just never do

[@coffee0093]

It's weird because I remember really really enjoying old Gallio, but once they reworked him I haven't touched him

[@nandomercy1]

because they deleted galio and made a new champ nobody likes.

[@ja785y]

Few ideas for changing him around: 1 reduce scaleings and cooldowns, make him something likey a pokey battle mage 2. Reduce scaling but lean into his lore, let his next punch do more damage after reducing damage with w or R based on total damage reduced. Another idea in the same sort of theme, reduce his scalings but make it so taking magic damage reduces his cook downs. Make this his passive and move his current passive to his e, when he lands e he gets the empowered auto.

[@lordtouchme5735]

I like his current kit , i just want his ult changed, it is very unreliable.

[@kalebdavis7080]

Give him his old ult back, there was absolutely no reason to gut his identity by just making it a weaker version on his w.

[@wesker8814]

hes the champ you like having on your team but no one really wants to play him

[@trigas5578]

That's exactly why i started playing him, loved to have on my team then started playing with him

[@wesker8814]

@@trigas5578 absolute W mindseat king

[@kendivedmakarig215]

Nope you are wrong about that. Before the nerf, a lot of players wants to use him. But Rito nerfed him many times.

[@OakenTome]

@@kendivedmakarig215 Only because he was so incredibly strong.

[@kendivedmakarig215]

@@OakenTome Galio is only good now when you are playing in a 5 man team and have good team composition. He isn't reliable to play him in solo que.

[@satriahadi1893]

In wild rift, he's actually still popular cause of his good durability and CC and I've been using him in the baron lane a few times against different opponents and he can trade and win lane

[@kendivedmakarig215]

Actually he is getting nerfed now in WR. He is more viable in Midlane since most midlane champs consist of AP and you can utilize his ult better.

[@satriahadi1893]

@@kendivedmakarig215 I know about the nerf but somehow when I play against bruisers and juggernauts in baron lane, I survive and most of the time win trades and the tower

[@Eldex0]

Well in Wild rift the lanes are shorter and the laning phase is over pretty fast. So you can do your Galio stuff without missing out on everything else.

[@kendivedmakarig215]

@@satriahadi1893 You can play him in Baron lane since Rito made Galio to be played in Baron Lane. But in terms of Meta, he is better played in Midlane because of his MR, good clearing wave, good poke, and his ult utility where you can gank 2 lanes easily.

[@abrarnoorani8385]

I feel like they should just give him back his flash W combo and the dmg reduction on ult and make him a full tank

[@MonticueGaming]

I still think Galio is really good. I pick him as a safe mid pick incase I am unsure of the match up with my main and almost always win lane. I build him either tank hybrid, or full ap depending on team comp. His cool downs are def a pain to work around but 9 times out of 10 you will out sustain your laner and get a lead. His main weakness however is he is not really a carry, if your team is lacking bad there is little a galio can do to turn it around on his own.

[@FriuliHypixel]

Last season I mained galio supp full tank. It was very usefull and the cc chain made the enemy adc completely useless, but the problem is the cooldowns. Most of the time I engage in and then just ran around bodyblocking abilities for like 7 seconds waiting for my E to come up again. Galio is a super fun champion to play and mastering him is not thaaat hard but you have to play him perfectly in high elo or you become, as vars said, a litteraly punch bag for the enemy team

[@gerrygatewood9596]

TLDR : basically his rework was a FAIL, flashy and cool at first but such a balance issue and now barely seen. His old taunt was the best wombo

[@Archinemi]

My man Galio. Thank you: he's finally gotten the Vars treatment. Pre-rework Galio will always hold a place in my heart (awaiting Retrospective). The items this season don't feel great on Galio. Last season I would go Rocketbelt, Horizon Focus, Abyssal Mask and get a 25% bonus damage combo after leading with belt into W. They changed Mask and he just feels awkward not being able to do the big damage. Playing him support doesn't allow for this kind of play with Evenshroud for the bonus. His ult is awkward and requires teammates to set him up, so unless they are in comms with you and are an engage champ themselves, you just lack consistently decent ult times. Compare this to Yone whose ult is 1/3 the cooldown time and can be used whenever with the same impact and it's clear to see why he's not in favour.

[@hayleehey3050]

They should just make him a full tank, too much offense in every ability, lower e damage so it can go over walls, completely change the q and passive, and make the ult focus more on its team magic defense and aoe knock up

[@Tamachii12]

Or just rollback his rework and he'll be enjoyable to play once again

[@petervillent5573]

He got nerfed to the ground, that what happened. He has no scaling, and was only useful early with his base dmg. Then they nerfed his early damage, and now even if you do well early you're just gonna fall off hard and be just a health bar stick.

[@Avoxni]

I was so hyped for the galio rework when it shown, I'm a tank player so he seemed like such a good addition, then riot took away his tank protentional and made him a mage, I'm still bummin

[@sungjin9780]

I’m a relatively new player who started playing after watching arcane and I tried out a lot of champs but for some reason Galio really stuck for me. I think his kit is really fun and I just feel comfortable playing him

[@fadeddragon123]

Almost Every “why nobody plays” comes down to “they are tanks” or “they are made for neutral game” or “they aren’t appealing to play/aren’t worth the effort to learn” or “they got nerfed into the ground over time” As a tank main. It makes me sad because it’s true

[@Liger-Inuzuka]

I love Galio after his rework, he looks cool, he feels heavy and strong, and can be a huge impactful presence in a teamfight. I like that. But as you showed in the video, after his rework, the massive amount of balance changes and adjustments were overwhelming, and off-putting. I remember on the few days that Galio became the best burst-assassin in the game, that Riot explained with the old item set they "thought" players would build Rod of Ages, like 1 AP item, then go full tank. I don't know about you, but rarely if ever do I see people half-and-half on builds. Its either full damage, full dps, full tank, full support, full crit, etc. Any champion that needs pieces for either or, is hard to balance and feels clumsy, requiring the player to use some items to fix the champions problems and some to empower them. Remember in your Varus video, the same reason he is unplayed, he has a confusing problem between being attack-speed, poke, or AP burst. I'd say the same with Galio. His abilities, his kit, by itself is fantastically design as a tank. He looks like a tank. He moves and feels like a tank. His lore is all about tanking. The Balance team is simply kidding themselves by trying to find this halfway point between tank and mage. They could very easily balance Galio to be a tank, scale off of HP or resistances, and that's all she wrote. Right now, because of this half-and-half balancing they left him in, he is neither a mage, damage, burst, or tank. Last note about kit design; I would change his ultimate to NOT be ally reliant. Ally-reliant abilities in League were always less desired than normal, due to the Player's efficiency with that champion being reliant on an ally. Think of old Tahm Kench, Braum, Taric, Kalista, now even Rell, and *maybe* Shen. I am certain if they made his ult something like..........Rammus's new ult, where he does a big free-targeted jump and lands and makes a knock up, but make it less range so it's not semi-global. Giving that option for Galio to engage would really help his self-reliance. So in short, he's the result of poor balancing choices despite having a great simple tank kit, leaving him neither tank or mage, and finds it hard to function in lane due to high mana and cooldowns, and last....maybe...adjust the ultimate a little bit. That's a bonus. Personally, I wish he was a jungler! :( Why can't they make some random laners junglers, like they did with Gnar, Garen, Zed, and Talon.

[@gojiratar1132]

In Jungalio hopium we trust. But for real they should just commit to him being a tank. Maybe even give him his old q back for extra utility or smth.

[@blanktrigger8863]

I'm with you on the ultimate, but my idea for a change was to get away from the leap: "For Galio, his ultimate achieves the same effect. It feels like his ultimate should be either a Hulk clap, a stronger version of his passive ground smash, or an enhanced state that makes his basic attack become his passive (maybe with a slow effect, or either put the slow effect on his steps so that when he moves, he creates craters that slow anyone in range)."

[@koldrix]

I really miss the E+ Flash combo to surprise people, now his abilities feel... too fair in a unfair game.

[@blanktrigger8863]

"Too fair in an unfair game" is the perfect description. That's what I felt with fun characters like him and Rell. The best made characters in the game just don't fit because they're balanced in a game where too many things are OP (albeit, probably largely because of ridiculous items).

[@blazichaos7181]

One rework that I vaguely remember that boggled my mind is when they shifted a lot of his tankiness to AP scaling, like... why? He's an anti mage burst champion, so why MAKE him an AP burst champion?

[@cryptyyy_7667]

I love this song!! Pokemon MD Team Sky is still the best off-series Pokemon game!

[@nonperson3045]

Galio has the same problem that a lot of champs in League have: Riot overcorrected in the wrong direction and left him without a solid identity. He's a bit like Aatrox in that he's something of a failure - a hint of a taste of an identity that doesn't really mesh with his lore or playstyle. You typically only see him played as a burst mage in the past, and almost all the defensive keystones have been reduced to support runes - a role that Riot actively pushed Galio out of. In some ways, he's like an idiot version of Rammus. Rammus pushes back against auto-attackers and forces single-target DPS to ruin themselves on him and does so consistently. Galio has an AoE taunt which....... forces foes to auto-attack him... which is good if he's against mages... which are already (and have been) in a bad spot given how easy it is to neutralize magic damage. (Especially in season 12 with Death's Dance, Maw, Force of Nature.) So part ot the reason no one plays him is that a lot of Fighters do his job better, he doesn't really incentivize purchasing MR *against* him, and his peel option is a W that might very well get him killed. He's just a mage that goes to the gym, and at that point, just play Sylas.

[@shyamprasadv4960]

I play galio and he is so much fun if your teammates know to play around him. The E flash into W is so strong and any gank is a sure kill. The problem is that people expect galio to initiate and that is not possible. If you try, you just die without even using the ultimate.

[@kmosh8573]

Lol galio is my hardcore main . It's not that no one plays him he is a one trick champion I play him mid top support a d even jungle

[@-_-5470]

Because he was balanced around pro play (where he still gets played btw)

[@boredstudent9468]

I like to play him Support, as Warden, for that i'd be fine to scrap his AP ratios in favor of protection and the taunt

[@Gamber63]

Galio to me seems like suffering Azir syndrome, the simple kit it had can cover so much situation alot of things must get changed n' removed, until it reach a real mess that only can do everything decently

[@robertharp16]

Willing it had a fair bit to with him not being able to flash his taunt anymore,other than that I don't really know

[@sadge1759]

i used to play galio a lot but since his Q became 10 sec cooldown at max rank was 6 sec pre nerf. i just dont enjoy him anymore you literally do your whole combo and after that y our a sitting duck.

[@sonnenblume4]

God I miss old Galio. Silly flying Gargoyle with silly spells that were clunky but fun to use nonetheless.

[@PowerEd8]

I dont like his R, Twisted Fate and Pantheon R feel better somehow And its far from global, TARGET RANGE: Range 4000 / 4750 / 5500 ACTIVE: Galio designates the target allied Champion icon.png champion's location at the time of cast as his landing spot, resetting Shield of Durand's Shield of Durand's passive magic Hybrid resistances icon.png shield for himself and additionally granting it to all allied champions in the area he casted it at for 5 seconds, and Channeling icon.png channels for 2.75 seconds

[@jeffersongabriel1117]

Very nice analysis of Galio situation. I think that the main problem with Galio is that he has all abilities with big CDs, as you mentioned. The Q must be weakened, but more spammable and his passive should do less damage, but with another effect. Having a champion with all abilities with more or less 10sec CD without AH is disgusting. I play Galio since 2013 and before his full rework I really loved how I could trade against enemy champions using Q and W, even with a very weak passive.

[@elijahproto]

As a non-Galio main, it seems like it's because he's basically a glorified tank support, he just doesn't do enough damage to feel impactful to late game as a midlaner, even when you build him AP, you feel strong at the start, but later on that Q power just diminishes and diminishes, and then when you build tank and you don't have teammates around you, you're basically useless. He's like Shen but without that auto-attack power that makes it so you can 1v1

[@Mori-man]

Vars should start a "why an average amount of people play" series

[@truebreakage9003]

I concur

[@Augusto2]

I´d say ARAM does a great job showing why galio filed as a tank, he does not have the movility to make good use of his kit, his current E is simply not good enough. For context Galio is one of the best tanks for ARAM (he is also great as full ap but thats missing the point)

[@blastcraft9067]

Hey this is quite a.. I want to ask you of a favor @Vars. *What happened to Maokai?* because he's kinda in the bin right now. And I think I've never in my life heard about a rework that was intended for a nerf.

[@GeneralSecura]

Galio should really just be turned into a mid-lane anti-magic damage tank. Reduce or remove his AP scalings and give him health and especially MR scalings. Increase the uptime of his W passive MR shield so he can shrug off more poke damage in lane. And for the love of god, give back the W-Flash. Other champions can do similar things.

[@nandomercy1]

Old galio was a totally different champ, this new one sucks. his ulti is by far the worst piece of S% ever. long cooldown, virtually no damage, can be canceled with cc, the magic shield is non existent.

[@stallingartist5877]

It's a trauma thing, any time I managed to pick him I got an adc mid to lane against

[@duyvukhanh4525]

That’s why sometimes its better to pick your champ in slot 4 or 5, counterpicks exist and there are other alternatives if you’re against ADs (TF, Pantheon)

[@d180jnr]

I'll tell you why; riot fucking hates him. Gave him 40s cooldowns on basic abilities. My friend mained him as his first champion then riot ruined his kit

[@itsyaboiguzma2325]

If they dropped the gimmick of his ult they might be able to make him both a tank and a mage. Galio's bigger problem is that, because his ultimate is so powerful, they basically have to make him suck on purpouse because if he is good on lane then he can roam like crazy and snowball other lanes, even now that galio is sort of a halfass tank halfass mage he is still picked in proplay because of his teamfight potential.

[@unoriginalcopy9844]

i would say galio is a jack of all trades master of none. You can built burst mage, tank, engage support (even after the W + flash nerf) or just classic anti carry.

[@rejfen714]

I think galio should have 2 playstyles separatwd by the build. What i mean by that is if he builds ap he would be a bursty ap bruiser with his q and passive but if he build tank his e and w would have much shorter cooldown, making him cc tank

[@abrarnoorani8385]

My main since season 10, my sweet summer child

[@Plotamor]

His damage isn't enough to call him an AP champ and he is not tanky enough to be tank. Honestly, I think his kit is just too balanced in a game that is not. Decent cc Decent damage Decent tankiness Long cooldowns

[@theparadoxwithin232]

"Can he hit the like and subscribe button?" I laughed so hard at this, props to you for this inclusion Vars, had to immediately like afterwards :D

[@jakeheckert2494]

Obligatory comment since this is the first time my main has shown up in a WNOP vid. First M7 champ was Galio mid, but "no one asked" LOL. Thanks for consistent vids Vars, look forward to nearly every vid you post since it's always refreshing to hear new takes, especially from a game design perspective!

[@isaiahsiegfreid44]

As a mid laner If I got put agianst an assassin I would play Ornn or Malphite if the were AD and Galio if they were AP. but unless you build full mr an ap assassin will still one shot you. Early game he’s fine but he dosnt get enough natural MR as time goes on to make it viable.

[@imluxannabitch9322]

Its just like an AP Malphite gets oneshot by AD assassin. Lol you build AP Galio and still want to be tanky against assassin? Imagine how OP that would be.

[@isaiahsiegfreid44]

@@imluxannabitch9322 a malphite that builds armor will still do damage a mr galio will not

[@Hello-to8mv]

No one plays him because he is a counter pick there is no point blind gailo because u will get an AD champ mid and his kit is pretty boring at least for me

[@bobjohniwanttodie5804]

Full ap and stone plate is what I did 2 or 3 seasons or so ago and it worked well you get bonus heal from your ap items so in the end you get 60 armor and mr and a shirld

[@shurlkr3594]

Just give me my W Fl and E Fl back

[@gifproductions9597]

Galio was my second champion i bought, after Twisted Fate and i love him dearly

[@StoicKobra]

i play galio a ton and i genuinely cant get enough of him, hes so fun to me but his problem comes from his severe lack of range

[@anthonybothe3501]

He comes across as a tank, I mean look at him. They should definitely change his scaling based on tank stats, like how taric, rammus, voli have tank stats in ther damage scaling which reinforces a tank build, galio scales with everything in a medium degree which I think is why he’s weak all around. If he scaled better off tank stats and less off DPS stats then he’d be amazing and easily balanced.

[@melvinallennavales8547]

Agree!

[@BlazikienFlares]

will you make a video on swain after adjustments id be really interested on your thoughts on that

[@shacolin6546]

Riot has been nerfing playmaking in any shape or form for the past 3 years. You don't see roaming mid laners anymore. Junglers are farm-to-6 left and right and the last time I've seen this many enchanters dominating this much was during the ardent censer era. Galio is just one of many victims of Riot's relentless attempts at forcing a scaling meta down everyone's gullet.

[@elreydabik]

I Main galio but I only play with in high Elo since you need an actual team to really use him

[@xCorvus7x]

1:01 > really dislike magic > _Lux just rises into the air in front of the soldiers_

[@shados1104]

I love your music choice the dialga theme from pokemon mustery dungeon is so good

[@theofaniskouniakis8002]

The champ that was constacted to hunt mages builds AP. Ironic

[@zavhyatta9795]

3:10 I feel bad about this but I your math is wrong 5% per 100 ap means he would get 30% bonus reduction not 60%.

[@VarsVerum]

DAMNIT.

[@guenwhyvar9330]

I've started to play him, for me the issue is that he's supposed to be an anti AP tank, due to his kit and his identity, but all his abilities scales with AP except his shield which is HP scaling, so you're an anti mage but that can build as a mage and even almost forced to build mage items, cause he's better in a hybrid mage/tanky build than a full tank build

[@guenwhyvar9330]

Something that could be cool for him is like a passive where he'd convert like MR to AP, it would even be pretty lore accurate, he could also like stack like some magic damages he took with his shield or when he's protected to gain AP to be even more lore accurate, it could be a pretty nice and interesting feature in my opinion

[@alanganon672]

@@guenwhyvar9330 That was the old passive on Galio but they removed it for some stupid reason

[@gojiratar1132]

@@alanganon672 Even as someone who loves how they made use of his old kit to turn him into what he is now, I completely agree, let the guy be a tank instead of a melee mage with cc please.

[@alanganon672]

@@gojiratar1132 His kit has everything a tank would want, A ranged ability to farm and waveclear; cc and a shitty mobility but is better than nothing. The problem are the numbers.

[@findlayrutherford]

If there was a good AP item that also gave MR(banshee's is very situational imo), he could be stronger. I like new abyssal on him, but otherwise items aren't doing him too many favors rn

[@morgoth6273]

Cause they don't have the KFC skin obviously

[@TheRevivist]

I can never have a good game with Galio, he feels too weak. His identity is supposedly anti AP right? Why should any ranged mage win against him then? But take Malphite for example. He builds 1 armor item and bramble into an AD champ like Riven or Pantheon, he instantly wins. Just doesn't make sense. His ult is complete ass because most of the time by time you ult, that person is long dead or everyone has dashed out the range cuz riot loves to make every champion come with a dash now.

[@Zenith07]

Galio to me is just a champion who doesn’t know what they’re class is He’s an Anti carry, but is also a support who is also a mage fighter, who is also a burst who is also a tank and who is also a CC champion He’s kinda hard to pick into some, going tank you become useless and just be a meatshield. Going support you can’t peal properly for your adc, and your more of an engage tank in that role. Going burst you’ll have a hard time catching others and escaping fights once you used all of ur abilities, unlike most wardens they can hold there ground and fight with either there basic attacks and or abilities. He kinda needs the perfect situation as well when it comes to Teamfights, and needs the perfect team for it, a great example is Malphite to 3 to 5 people being followed up by Galio. He needs to rely more with he’s teammates to follow up with he’s engage.

[@TigerKirby215]

Riot needs to choose if Galio is a tank or a mage. I'd prefer the former because... well look at him? (Also because I play him as a support anyways.) I thick Riot could keep him as a viable midlaner with some ability buffs and turn him into a support midlaner akin to someone like Seraphine; someone who focuses more on utility than raw damage.

[@Galactities]

I think he should stay as a tanky-mage/Anti-Mage. I think its unique and works really well. I think the problem is the lack of being able to take longer fights. Since you're meant to roam alot and you most roams intend to take an extended fight and thats the problem you roam and you pretty much only have a single target kit other then his W and passive auto but its not like ur gonna be hitting more then one person with the auto. If they bring back Flash+W and maybe reduce the CD on his Q or something it may make him more viable

[@Xethl]

I never understand nerfing flash+ability combos unless it actually breaks something (like if you flash and then the ability does 10 times damage for no reason) - it's something you can only do every 5 minutes so yeah it probably should be strong? Plus it uses your flash which is a pretty big cost as you now have one less escape tool.

[@jeffersongabriel1117]

Very nice analysis of Galio situation. I think that the main problem with Galio is that he has all abilities with big CDs, as you mentioned.

[@IceTax69]

I think Galio being melee caster is just a huge disadvantage and he doesnt really get anything out of it. Also his ult doesnt help in 1v1 situations and imo barely does anything. If u compare his ult to Shen, which is obviously a lot better, or TF for the sake of movement, shen and tf have far better follow up than Galio after the ult.

[@leonidas49]

A Suggestion for a video would be why everyone plays Kayle now since her pickrate has been very high lately

[@Danielsworlds]

galio along with a lot of their reworks of his era. technically made that character better but in doing so Stripped Away a lot of their identity. What made them unique is gone. and when their identity has been Stripped Away if their power level is not up to scale then why play them? Old galio was the anti ap terror. Single handedly shutting down midlanes and forcing lane swaps just to even have a chance. New galio hurts ap champs more then ad certainly but not near to the same extent as before and this is ultimately to his detriment. Because now there's a half dozen assassins and brusers who counter mages. He's not even the best at the one specialization he had

[@Le_Dave]

he got nerfed hard I think, but I love Galio remember playing him against champions like fizz and denying everything he tried to do.

[@nanashialfarr]

I played him before his full rework, he was a better tank and he could give a leona's W to anyone of his friends and it also would heal him, and he had a good control with his ultimate, now its just no fun to play him, his kit makes no sense to me.I wish they would bring his old W's back and move his current W to the ultimate.