Why NO ONE Plays: Annie | League of Legends

[@VarsVerum]

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[@TaconIStenen]

0:33 “as evidence by our newest mage: Hwei” Aurora fuming in a corner

[@hanshysher6266]

Aurora is a burst mage without cc that basically can double as an assasin or a battlemage, that bunny is Ksante mage but made well

[@thememedad202]

@@hanshysher6266 Aurora is very frustrating to play against particularly on toplane. I wouldn't call her well made.

[@hanshysher6266]

@@thememedad202 she sneezes at you and you lose half hp, but she is squishy at least, unlike Ksante...

[@PowerEd8]

@@hanshysher6266 Riot describes her as a battlemage

[@pandasawrus]

The wild rift iteration for Annie is very interesting. Her Q is a skill shot with a small AOE on impact that resets some cooldown and mana if it kills a target (minion or champion). Additionally her ultimate has a recast to make tibbers to leap to a single enemy champion and knock them up for a medium duration. It seems a lot more unique since she has more ability to spam Q near waves and her second ult lets her do two rotations in a long fight.

[@eryalmario5299]

I think that's the way to make her actually viable

[@emmanuellouiemedina6072]

Yeah i think wr annie is better

[@kauanjos3199]

Seems worse than League Annie, the point and click stun is way better

[@miah3170]

​@@kauanjos3199how? Her kit mostly revolves around tibbers ult right? And you still get the single target knock up if you miss with Tibbers. Also because her Q is AOE, you can hit more than 1 person at a time. You can even get a longer range stun on more than 1 person if they are grouped

[@kauanjos3199]

@@miah3170 Point and click stun is just too valuable to pass on, her W is already AOE you don't need 2 spells to be AOE

[@atsukana1704]

So what you are saying is, Annie is unpopular because she is perfectly balanced. Yeah that checks out.

[@Lin_Nascimento]

@@oldpoetmen I mean, he's just saying the facts

[@VarsVerum]

@@oldpoetmen "Why no one likes this food? Because it tastes bad" "Why everyone likes this food? Because it tastes good" You want me to come up with random philosophical answers just to BS up some "original" things?

[@shaggyg7354]

@@VarsVerum bit agressive there mate ,its a very simple and right comment no need to be so defensive over something so stpid

[@shaggyg7354]

@@oldpoetmen dude chill ur comment is fine ,my guy just overreacted a bit and made u feel like shit over something very minor ,he coulve very easily answered "at its core thats what it is" or something ,or nothing at all

[@dichtendenken]

​@@oldpoetmen Idk why Vars became so defensive, you've stated a completely valid argument and not in an insulting manner, lol.

[@wiktorma1679]

She basically has no range compared to other mages, but even including this she's very good burst mage, unfortunately without passive is kinda unfun to play.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

She could easily be buffed. Most old champions can easily be buffed to become relevant while still balanced just by changing the stats because their kits are simple. Just buff up her damage and she's relevant again without being broken.

[@jessewilliams3166]

​@@minhducnguyen9276 Nah I'd say a mini gameplay rework would do annie wonders similar to pantheon. Keep the core of her abilities but modernize them.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

@@jessewilliams3166 That'd work too. Just add some more functions into her already existing abilities and she'll be relevant again.

[@SaarlaneKretiin]

no range. lol. he doesnt know.

[@zachhollins604]

@@SaarlaneKretiin genuine moron. annies range is abysmal compared to other mages, especially when you consider that she can’t prefire her q because its not a skillshot

[@jamesexeisnotresponding6686]

shes trapped in a dilemma where shes a burstmage and wants to just get fights over with but tibbers is meant for like a battlemage with his tankiness and DoT

[@armitchell86]

I was thinking if building Annie like a battlemage would make things easier. Still prioritizing damage with Dark Harvest and Gathering Storm but build ROA, Rylai's, Liandry's, and then just tank items.

[@DunningofKruger]

You really just 100% nailed it. She’s too low range for how much effective damage she has and has to do twice as much positioning and work for what other champs can do from outside her range. I think a thing that you brushed upon but missed is that she’s had her abilities and items slowly moved towards sustained tibbers damage from burst. She’s been effectively split in two, you’re either building full burst (ludens, shadowflame, rabba), in which tibbers is effectively useless. Or you build sustained damage (malignance, liandries, blackfire/rylais) and you don’t have any of the damage needed to kill anyone.

[@kevinbarrios5718]

As an S2-S8 Annie enjoyer, it brought a tear of joy to my eye the Anniebot mention at the end. Used to watch hours of Jared streams to get my Annie skills on point. Those were the days

[@lillyie]

annie suffers from a sort of shen syndrome where a lot of her power budget is allocated to tibbers. without tibbers, either by it getting killed by enemies or lifetime expiring, your damage falls off a cliff

[@thememedad202]

Shen is arguably powerful even without his ult.. in fact his ult is the reason why he is such a strong duelist - his Ult doesn't deal damage thus his other abilities need to compensate for it.

[@gkaskavelis]

I don't mind getting minion items on league for tibbers and such

[@Dethsoul]

Taric is the more extreme example of ult taking up most of the power budget.

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

Every 200 years champion that gets released Annie gets a new hard counter.

[@grimmziscool1765]

annie rlly slams so many of the new champs cuz she has such strong shutdown

[@QuynhAn689]

very bad take, Annie is probably one of the most skill-expressive in the game, one single creative flash and you win team fight.

[@RisottoNero-z1w]

@@QuynhAn689 maybe up to silver, yes. Past that people use wards.

[@astronautlovestory]

​@@RisottoNero-z1w there are several challenger annie otps across all major regions btw

[@PhailRaptor]

Ambessa says what now?

[@sortilien2099]

Vex does almost Annie's job more intuitively. Lux/Seraphine are safer too and can be a nice supports as well as a damages dealer which is good on bad games. Except "tibburst" annie is outmatch on everything and just a stun bot if behind

[@MangaGamified]

you also can't check bushes/fog, with W's range, might as well walk into it, very little difference. You also can't kill anyone invisible outside R W

[@АннаЛиберт-ь1й]

She was such a menace in like season 4 as a support. Higher base dmg, longer stun earlier on. You had to have full mr rune set just to have a chance to survive. Nothing op, all thing considered, but definitely ban worthy.

[@kevinbarrios5718]

It was even used in pro play. Man those were the days

[@Amrish547]

Delaying the Tibbers spawn could go a long way, but that would directly go against what makes her so fun to play anyway.

[@lordfiredrake7878]

The points in Vars video are spot on. It also doesn't help that more and more champions are constantly getting really good movement abilities in their kits; look at Ambessa for example. I think if they changed her E and may it similar to one of the new champ's movement abilities for her ASU that her pick rate would definitely increase.

[@Ratty524]

I was wondering when this video would pop up. You’d think for a champion that everyone recommends you try if you’re new to the game would even have a presence in low elo, but she’s just as nonexistent there as anywhere else.

[@Snicklebeck]

Many of these videos go "Why play champion A when you can play champion B and get the same move plus something better?" Because Vars I don't own all the champions and still don't know what all the champions do. I am doing my best to learn as many as I can but there are so many that even playing one new champ per day would take 6 months.

[@БарриЛомов]

This video is sponsored by DarkNet. Script-makers understand that Annie is a threat for all cheaters. Right now Annie is one of the best ways for detecting cheaters. 1. Annie is the only hero with ranged target stun. Got 4 stacks and got into range? Look how cheater use his flash. Most scripts ALWAYS react to stacked Q the same way - flash away. With speed from E Annie usually can catch up and do full combo and second Q will be enough to finish the deal if the target is not fed. 2. Both W and R are almost instant cast skills. Human`s eyes and brain cant react instantly to it, but scripts - can. 3. How to overcome Annie`s low range? Wait for the enemy in the bush, where you will get vision on enemy before enemy get`s vision on Annie. Oh, wait... Some scripts provide the "enemy have vision on you", thus showing telling cheater about Annie standing in that bush. What cheater do next? Goes away from the bush. And so, we have a champion who`s both mechanics and playstyle are one of the best to understand if you are playing against cheaters. P.S. Oh, I completly forgot. We now have Vanguard, which prevents cheating in game. Right? Right?...

[@i_saidmeow2469]

In Wild Rift, Annie can recast her ultimate to knockup the enemies. But it's a small delay

[@MangaGamified]

Enemy: 🤰

[@Thedoctorr5]

Helps to play around her long auto poke. Her biggest problem is wave clear. Max q no wave clear. Max w no mana.

[@sentryward8744]

To solve the Annie and most old champion problem. League really REALLY need more good active items.

[@SirPotato43]

but they wont because "BaD pLaYeRs FoRgEt To UsE tHeM"

[@aabeeek]

Riot, give me back Everfrost and my life is yours.

[@shredern]

@@SirPotato43 its me, im bad players

[@enigmaticjam4534]

active items are cringe as hell they make this game cringe u and unbalanced giving cc to every champ is not good

[@SirPotato43]

@@enigmaticjam4534 that was one item my man not everyone has to be like that

[@Alone-SF]

Other classes could get creative with new types of characters for the playstyle, or they could make another expert swordsman skirmisher

[@tri3sweat]

league players dont like innovation, the most popular release in the past couple of years is literally the most generic mage of all time (hwei)

[@sigrisvcc4455]

​@@tri3sweat Hwei is generic ? Who you kidding man

[@djoctavio1234]

Hwei one of the most unique characters in the game​@@tri3sweat

[@RadishHead7]

​@@djoctavio1234is that sarcasm?

[@djoctavio1234]

@@RadishHead7 how is having 10 spells not unique

[@kevinthedot]

Riot just generally doesn't want any of the burst mages to get full one shot potential. Assassins have an easier time getting to the 100% burst while burst mages tend to be more around 50%, requiring them to find safe trades till they can get to their kill threshold. Tradeoff usually being the assassins don't have as much utility and mages can do their stuff at range, so it's at least somewhat fair in theory. Still love Annie both for her simplicity and Tibbs being just a fun tool to play with as a pet.

[@volcanogoblin]

6:10 "Otherwise no ... need to aim" Then why do I always miss my ult+stun 😭 Jokes aside, great video. Thanks for the content!

[@fanficologist6621]

I had an ARAM games where the enemies team were full of bruiser and tank, i.e. targets that Annie can't burst. So I built Malignance, Liandry, Rylai, and watched my Tibber stares them to death. It was hilarious. No body expected Tibber to death so much AoE damage after the initial burst.

[@LeeB3rd]

Thanks for the Credit Boss man, and Great Video

[@boofie3378]

Annie the lil girl with a lot of spice and ☝not a lot of nice!! Hits everytime

[@sammigs34]

They need to extend the range on Annie ult. It pisses me off. I don't even play league anymore but I even know that one buff would make her viable.

[@rebornjm]

What I think they need to do with Annie is throw her away from being a burst mage. They need to focus more on using Tibber. They could make a huge change, and this may sound crazy, but instead of making tibbers an ultimate they should make tibbers her passive. And basically make it like every four spells tibbers Paw comes out does extra damage and then make the ultimate with Tibber actually coming out just like it’s current way but does like splash AOE when it comes out on the fourth spell that way, you can also still give her a stun that combos in with like the W or the Q when you do the fourth spell basically what I’m saying is every spell gets like an empowered version on the fourth spell

[@sekira4516]

so Karma but with a Tibbers summon? Eh, I could see it working however this definitely kills her current identity and ifk how many current Annie players would play this new version. Something the failed VGUs of League all suffer from is alienating the original playerbase with the new design by deviating too much from the original identity.

[@rebornjm]

@@sekira4516 oh I mean it like every fourth spell is empowered one kinda like how her current passive works, but instead It makes her spells have like an added effect to them like on the fourth spell, summon tibbers would bring out rage mode tibbers, or fourth spell molten shield has a small burst kind of like karma’s old ult barrier, her w can be a longer range, and her q can have the stun. I was spitballing ideas as well so some of it got lost in my rapid thinking. but basically what I’m trying to say is you can keep her identity as a burst mage, but make tibbers feel more part of the kit or you can connect Q with your ultimate like with how many kills you get with Q or minion kills with Q it makes tibbers bigger like for example 10 stacks tibbers is small, and with 100 stacks he is colossal.

[@asteriskonline3494]

Love the new editing style.

[@callmeandoru2627]

I agree with your statement at the beginning. It's much easier to design mages because you can always show how they differ from other mages because they often have AOE and skill shots which are very visual in nature and therefore are easier to see in their design.

[@raypinshizel6975]

As someone who is also named Jared you jumpscared the hell out of me there :D

[@Nartanek]

Annie is useful for new players i think, try learning Asol when you first start the game. I like that her stun is not on one single ability but can be whatever, that teaches new players that things are not always as simple as 'q deals damage', while also being easy to grasp.

[@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjo]

asol is literally easier than annie

[@darkumineru1681]

old Asol sure i see the point but new Asol is the easiest mid champ to play Q is dps where you can E for wave clear and W to roam R is a simple AoE ult all this while being the most monsteras champ later game (still mad they removed Asol for the simplest and least interactive champ in the game when old Asol was super interactive and hard to play with massive effect...)

[@Nartanek]

@@darkumineru1681 He's not the hardest champ to play but he has mechanics you have to read and understand beyond 'press key to deal damage'. A new player has to understand the game first, not the champion, Asol is not a noob friendly champion, you have to be at least familiar with the game.

[@Nartanek]

@@darkumineru1681 Lux or Annie or, i don't know, Veigar, are much more noob friendly, while also allowing for some growth in your understanding of the game.

[@jujutaco8487]

Syndra is way better bc she does similar thing to Annie and her combo is relatively simple. Switching Annie Q into a skill shot can help her a long way. Or every charge can stun but more charges = longer stun

[@tyago1949]

The WNOP videos are my favorite to watch in this channel. I feel i learn the most out of these videos always so thank you for that. The 40 OG champions feel too much outdated nowadays with all the new releases in the game. Annie, Vlad etc.. they clearly need VGU's at the very least. Have you ever made a video (top 10 or 15 best champions late game) ? And might as well 10 or 15 best early champs. Could be a fun one to do. 😊

[@CaptainMorghan4152]

no one plays annie because jax mains hunt her to extinction. jokes aside but riot constantly nerfs annie I loved playing annie support but riot immedietly gutted her as a support as soon as it started becoming popular, annie isnt popular because riot doesnt want it to be

[@hugonilsson138]

Bro forgot Aurora when saying Hwei was the latest mage, anyways great vid as always!

[@hanshysher6266]

people consider her a Skirmisher even tho she plays like a Burst Mage without cc

[@PuffDaGoat]

i will forever love annie 💖

[@Slayyyaphine]

i see a lot of people still play annie. shes the most beginner friendly midlaners and she's been really shining with new items like malignance

[@83schizo]

vars upload on lunch today is good day

[@Natoursofcourse]

Haha great video vars! Reminds me of (*Insert unfunny repetition of the Jax main joke that was funny two years ago*)

[@ohinn]

i feel like an argument could be made to lower her auto attack range and increase q and w range. or just make changes to shift her to support where her kit isn’t as outmatched

[@afterpasthours7504]

The shotgun child is immeasurably funny to pilot

[@Darkloid21]

I really like mage classes in this game just for their ability to control the field. It’s my most played type.

[@Crowned_Hearts]

Okay WHY do I remember you making a why no one plays Annie video before?

[@Catinthehat6969]

I feel like Annie Q and W are the same ability they both do the same thing and Annie E doesnt fit her its meant for a different champ and her R also has same range as Q W she needs a new Q or W E ability

[@callmeandoru2627]

0:34 ah yes, newest mage Hwei. Seems like our bunny girl has been forgotten

[@amilo5]

My guess (before i watched the video completely) is that she has rather short range. So any champion that can close the gap to her can outburst her. Her telegraphed passive is also rather easy to avoid if you have more dashes and can withstand her Q. That means she is feast or famine. Either she is OP because she can oneshot you midgame. Or she is useless because she can't and getting dove permanently.

[@commenafra3478]

All of them fears jax mains

[@bart10050]

Imo the beauty in simple champions is when you can do well despite their lack of depth. And you get to focus on other things like positioning a bit more.

[@4zureSapphire]

Tibbers should have more usefulness outside of just dropping him for his explosion and damage. Make him have a passive like Daisy where if he attacks enough then he creates a damaging AoE around him and that can be activated sooner when Annie casts her own skills, upping the burst playstyle while giving Tibbers a way to be more of a threat.

[@angelrivera3308]

So tired of the argument of skill expression, that's how we get reworks like akali and y'all were losing your damn MINDS about her for like 3 seasons. An Annie vgu would be a nightmare, she's a great introduction to burst mages just like lux for new players. Simplicity has a place in league, no Annie player is complaining about how simple she is and how they wish they can do more.

[@Ratty524]

Even coaches like Curtis agrees she’s no longer even suitable for the “beginner mage” role due to the state of how mid lane is played right now. If you want to play a “simple mage” you could just play Lux, Veigar, Vex and the likes and get way more mileage out of those champs than you can with Annie. She’s dated.

[@Taylor-bw4zg]

No one plays annie cuz any mage released in the past 10 years does what she does infinitely better and without needing to micromanage leagues dogshit sunmon ai.

[@JamieT_5947]

Annie enjoyer here. She's just been kinda left behind. Multiple youtuber coaches can't even recommend her for beginners, let alone any other strata of play. Early game: It feels bad having to bait out and dodge multiple opponent abilities in order to get your lane poke combo off. High risk for poor reward. Midgame: not enough AP to burst squishies. Dependant on teammates to exploit the opportunities she creates. Lategame: outscaled. While trying to position in a flank is fun, Annie's lack of range, durability, and mobility, means you're betting the farm on a Sportcenter play with no way out. My friends scoff, but I honestly think she's a champ with a simple kit but a challenging playstyle. Many of her peers can get a lot more value while not having to dodge punches among the bruisers and juggernauts like Neo in the Matrix. Ultimately I think she's really tough to climb with. You're at the mercy of the 4 other players you're teamed up with to seize the opportunities you create. Its very very difficult to develop the lead needed to do any sort of single-handed carrying.

[@GodOfNightmares]

the only time ill play annie is game modes like aram, spellbook, urf etc. this champ is long overdue for a rework. a simple champ that's hard too play in this meta alone lol

[@abejandro1462]

Sorry but there is a GREAT feeling when you see a Jhin being flashTibbered into the ground.

[@metrux321]

I don't know if they'll ever CONSIDER doing a VGU for annie, though... She is the epithome of the basic mage, in league...

[@alexandersalazar4736]

Jax Mains target me.

[@minhducnguyen9276]

There are too many Jax mains.

[@Aceofhearts32]

@@minhducnguyen9276it’s okay in 3 years lol turns 18 and all the jax mains will disappear

[@warteaux]

Is this a league of teemo reference?

[@asken2791]

​@@warteauxCookielol reference.

[@alanevans5353]

I haven't played in over 6 months because of Vanguard so I don't know if this has become less viable, but I built Annie much more like a bruiser than a typical mage. Items like Rod of Ages and Seraphs Embrace (along with other AP bruiser items) make Annie actually fairly tanky without sacrificing too much damage, and Tibbers gives a large hitbox to block skillshots with on top of being a fairly large amount of damage. It was a lot of fun to dance around opponents while being tanky enough to survive the hits you couldn't dodge and weaving spells with her fairly short CDs, and when I played her she was very able to play out longer fights and land 2-3 stuns in a skirmish and sometimes even more for teamfights if they run long enough I'd say she was far better off as a Bruiser compared to a burst mage.

[@NightridingDoom]

Annies biggest strength was the enemy needing to know when to engage or disengage. Annies biggest strength got removed with clarity update.

[@beelze_sama9905]

Wild rift actually lets you recast summon tibbers and tibbers will leap on the enemy to deal another burst of damage while knocking enemies up but annie cant recast for like a couple of second so she doesnt use that immediately after the immediate cast to guarantee a one shot i think thats a way better way to design her ult and tibbers doesnt have the enrage mechanic to balance it out

[@LinkinKable]

It's said she's a beginner champ but her low range and need to snowball make her not good for beginners.

[@Luzid7]

i just started with league again and its kinda insane that EVERYONE even in low low elo like iron plays just meta champs and meta builds. New player losing against those champs and start playing them aswell. But thats not only a league problem its in everygame. Just speedrunning, be the best as fast as possible. And if your not going with the meta they will flame or report you just for playing the champ or build you wanna play. This robs so much fun out of every game. Back in the days.. no matchmaking no one knows the meta. Thats the best feeling. And thats also the reason i like leauge the most as pvp game atm because they change so much constantly, so the meta always change. But yeah you never get that much fun again if you played leauge or like vanilla wow back in the days

[@panlis6243]

Channeling all of my willpower to resist the urge to tell another Jax mains joke

[@Ript3r]

Giving her more damage would be fine. But if they dont want to do that give her more effects to her abilities. Make her E do both its old and current effects. Maybe make it so depending what spell you stun with it does a different effect. Maybe stunning with her Q causes a explosion of damage in a large range, W could set targets on fire for like 3 seconds, her Ult could make it a tank melter where for every second tibbers is burning or hitting them applys a stacking debuff that lasts until tibbers would expire normally where only annie would get a damage increase against them so say at like 10 stacks the tank takes 50% more damage from everything shes does. That way she still is more of a threat but can still have the issue of if shes losing shes still got those weaknesses but being she can fight her way out more often gives her a chance to do something than just "welp i'm dead" Idk her core identity and all that doesn't need to change really.

[@jurasicers.r.o7174]

Assassins are alawed to have inough damage to oneshot someone as long as they don't have hybrid damage, doubel crit, spamable dash, aoe damage that grates a shield, rampung movemant soeed buff that gives you a true damage echi of all danege you did while in this state, two AOE knckups and an ult that can setup teamfight wombo combo. Im not referung to anyone, what are you talking about?

[@ChucktheSpicyChicken]

Hey, Vars. I was thinking maybe you could do a video on the (major) item and rune changes in Wild Rift and also it's uniqe items. I think it could make for a very interesting video.

[@Skrallizar]

I feel that as a simple low elo burst mage for new players curious about mage champs Annie's fine as she is, the only issue I have is higher elo. Even though most noob friendly champs get worse in higher elo, it feels like Annie is among those hit hardest by this skill issue. With proper team play she's fine but as mentioned in this video, other champs can do what Annie does but different/better. A low skill floor mage is needed so that newer players can learn macro and stuff while playing a mage, but there's more "interesting" (technically a subjective thing) mages that fit this frame already. That said, I learned LoL with Azir and Rek'Sai, so for players with a genuine interest in champion interactions and no issues with reaction time/fast button presses, playing a low stress champ isn't needed. The effort to success ratio of Annie falls off too much in the face of other champs that can do more and do it better, sadly.

[@yammoto148]

I mean the issue I have with Annie is that she doesn't have the best range and often I have to lean into a more tanky/Control mage centric build as to win my trades more often and still manage to come back in the mid game if my early wasn't the best. I feel like I rely on my E and Tibbers more than my basic mage abilities like Q and W. It also doesn't help that her stun is fairly telegraphed forcing you to sort of mindgame to get it off. She isn't bad though its just her competition in the mid lane is usually champions that either roam better than her or farm better than her and don't sit in the middle where she does. Where her farming is good but she is vulnerable if she uses her stun on a minion, and her roaming is great but you don't move around the map fast enough to get back to lane in time if someone manages to shove the wave in. Annie was my favourite roamer when Predator was still good and we had boots of mobility. And she is still okay in the support role to counter some all in comps but unlike brand or Xerath her poking is nowhere near as impressive. Honestly I hope Riot gives her the ability to jungle and let her summon a more nerfed version of Tibbers from level 1 and potentially push her into a more roam centric role or they buff some of her basic mage abilities to be a bit more comfy in the mid lane against enemies who can shove or poke her out.

[@madsgrams2069]

The fact of the matter is that there are old, relatively simple mages that simply do her job better. Malzahar and Brand instantly come to mind here. If they barely ever get played...wtf chance does Annie have?

[@NyxxReaper]

annie is like the personification of the issue i have with burst mages in league rn. bc shes so good at what she does riot cant allow her to be good. as someone who plays both assassins and mages, its always baffling to me how i can be 2/7 on an assassin and still oneshot an adc easily, but i have to be 7/1 on a burst mage to do the same, if that. most of the time they still survive with like 100 hp and im just shit out of luck because now all my abilities are on 10 second cds and my autos do 27 damage. at least with an assassin if you cant burst with your abilities completely your autos will still chunk enough to finish them off usuall. single target dmg, sure, but getting someone out of the fight and being able to go back in on a second target is a far cry better than usin gyour whole combo, not killing anyone, and now being completely defensless and useless to your team until all your abilities are back up. its very frustrating. i love playing mages but i hate that you essentially arent able to play them unless ur fed. and even being fed usually still isnt enough (depending on the champ). dont even get me started on how fucking useless they are against tanks or any beefy ad champ like bruisers and fighters. might as well just just not even try fighting them bc they can break through your cc, do half your hp with one auto, and your full combo wont even break their kaenic rookern shield.

[@WillPickle55]

As a jax main i enjoyed this video

[@dodokipje]

04:26 pog

[@Dennisses_]

They should literally give her shield ability more options or simply give her 2-3 stacks when she uses her E. Make her a stun bot if she can not consistently oneshots people that are in her range

[@bradyseigfried2395]

I feel like Smite nailed what they were trying to do with Annie when they made the God Hera. Hera has Tibbers ult but better, a shield, a CC ability, and a damage ability....but her kit flows way better and the ranges of her abilities feel way better than Annie.

[@Eo-ms3kw]

Just got this in my recommended after going 2/18 on Annie in aram. Very funny

[@hriata168]

Move her passive to Q and make it stun with only Q and Ult, give her a new and intuitive passive she can play around

[@ShaggyLad]

I miss support Annie.

[@eryalmario5299]

Annie just feels bad to play rn. Her waveclear is worse than aurora imo even if you max w first on her and playing her support gets you outmatched by literally everyone because why pick her when lux and hwei can do her job but better and in mid lane 99% of the champions there can do her job but better.

[@TheNoblood12]

I think it is crucial to have Noob Champions but at the same time I think Riot should try their best to make part of these Noob Champions kit easy to use, difficult to master. In the case of Annie, Tibbers is a great start to add more complexity. I don't know how this will go but since Annie walking towards you is so telegraphed then why not allow her to cast her basic abilities through Tibbers. Maybe give the option to summon Tibbers on a longer duration at the cost of the burst damage or something.

[@Mike-iz6li]

They should buff all old champs from 2009 to 2012. They are weak, out dated and have not 100 dashes as newer champs

[@kurosworkshop]

Wow...thanx vars

[@RadishHead7]

Change her passive to have all her abilities stun without the need to stack. Yup that'll allow her to go against everyone dashing.

[@Nico-zt5jl]

I wish Annie got a VGU, but I would want is probably very different from what others want for her. I want Tibbers to become her passive or basic ability so she always has him out and having a kit entirely around Tibbers protecting her. But that's cause I only play her for Tibbers. Her voice is grating. Her gameplay isn't that exciting until BAM BEAR! Tibber is just really funny to me cause I like bears. 🐻 Voli is another of my favorite champs cause of it.

[@anneforger1279]

just give her some range and her pickrate will double. there is a need for simple champions in the game anyway.

[@rileyray96]

If her Q was the same as in wild rift.. she would be so much more used. Her q being a target makes it a short range/mid dmg projectile... it being a skillshot would allow for her to actually poke without being outpoked. Assassins out damage her when trading as they go all in... and mages like lux/viktor/xearth/ziggs etc outrange her so she needs to flash R..

[@Clown-Therapy]

2:55 I wish they’d bring back changing map for holidays, always felt like RuneScape too. Sucks.

[@azizabdul8914]

reason number 1: she's too balanced and boring reason number 2: Jax mains

[@austin-dy4yv]

Annie is fun af

[@AlryFireBlade]

They could make Tibbers the focus of her Kit, but then we just have a AP Yorick.

[@vorexin6201]

I d say the answer is mostly range

[@NothinImportant]

Long story short, she’s old (NO NOT THAT KIND OF OLD YOU CREEPS). I actually would like to see old mord e replace Molten shield I think the delayed burst then heal would actually work really well on here especially with tibbers.

[@cadio3555]

Let me rephrase the title: "why would u play annie"?

[@Celmondas]

I dont think she needs a full VGU. But Riot needs to do something with her Q. Maybe make it a skill shot so you can increase the range. I also dont know how I feel about the shield. It doesnt really help her Burst the enemy so maybe they could do something here. But I guess Riot needs to remove her ensured Q Stun so they can allow her to be strong. But they cant change Tibbers as he is to iconic

[@penguinmonk7661]

She's fair. The end.

[@Yokai_Yuri]

She is a balanced champ. Her range is short, her burst is below average, she is squishy, and her area of effect isn't the greatest. There are instances where you face an enemy ADC like Kaisa, you use all your skills and she is living with 45% HP. Compare that to a burst mage like LB or Syndra and you'll notice the difference. I feel Riot should make more honest champs like Annie instead of OP and unbalanced things like Hwei.

[@shanecoffing]

I think she needs either a VGU or more likely a revert/mini re-work. She used to be extremely good at one shot's and waveclear, key being 2nd one. Mana used to be a real issue, and annie refunding mana on Q takedown was a big deal back in the day. She could just clear minnons in lane all day, but nowadays every champ can do this, no one has mana issues. She also does not one shot has hard as other mages/assasins because she has a point click hard stun. In wild rift, annie Q is a skill shot with a small aoe and a bit more range. This would fix alot of her issues, allowing her better wave clear, more skill expression and more counterplay. Keep her ult/w low range, bur make her Q into a slighter longer range skill shot. Also idea, make her E a spell shield instead of a shield like sivir. Her having a crappy shield makes no gameplay or lorewise sense. At least make the ability help in what she wants to do, get into range too nuke people. A spell shield can block a key slow/stun and help tibbers stay on his target as well.

[@crittomato7043]

I remember when they reworked E to be a thornmail, and this Ezreal shot Q as kiting and managed to off himself because of the E :D I was laughing a lot

[@zyenxd2546]

what do you think about annies ''re-work'' on wild rift? do you think that it makes her broken? since you have a second chance to one shot some one with tiber's recast

[@Asgero]

Anne got a rework for wildrift, and she's a little more skill expressive now. She has a skill shot now on her and it has a very small aoe when it hits

[@yuumijungle548]

annie has a shitty laning phase, thats why nobody plays her. its like he said, annie vs lux or any other mage is an unplayable match up, annie is only good vs stuff like yone or yasuo, shes the counterpick of midlane, becoming an annie otp is pointless. you need to be last pick and see the enemy pick already.

[@last_dutch_hero258]

Annie should be reworked from a AOE burst mage to a complete “Tibbers, this guy in particulair” mage. Turn up Tibbers to 100 and make it so her kit focuses on buffing Tibbers in certain ways.

[@thememedad202]

Ivern is it you?

[@allind1everydealtrader224]

i only played Annie support and i think im the only one play her =))). Even in normal games. I never see anyone play her againis me. But this champ has everything to climb rank easily even play support.