What Happened To Ornn? (Why NO ONE Plays Him Anymore) | League of Legends

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@thegmp7439
@thegmp7439 3 жыл бұрын
The toplaner you ingored for 20 mins but were pleasantly surprised when he tp's out of lane to upgrade your mythic.
@VeneficusCubes
@VeneficusCubes 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah ornn needs lvl 13 to be useful in match. (Classic tank build scales only with level)
@khalilrahme5227
@khalilrahme5227 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeneficusCubes see the problem is, tanks fall off in late game in current meta. Because of anti tank items like LDR, void staff, and demonic embrace. A tank needing to be that high to be use a part of his kit means that at any time, there's something in oorn's kit that the player is never benefiting from
@TheAzorg
@TheAzorg 3 жыл бұрын
@@khalilrahme5227 That's why i usually build oftank (2-3 tank items and filling of dmg items) so that i'd do some punching in the meantime
@VeneficusCubes
@VeneficusCubes 3 жыл бұрын
@@khalilrahme5227 *cough* 20% AP ratio on ultimate.
@tomwanders6022
@tomwanders6022 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeneficusCubes 20% is nothing.
@padackthduck9118
@padackthduck9118 3 жыл бұрын
I love this champion. His lore/ rivarly with volibear, his personality of a gruff dad/grandpa who secretly really loves you but doesn't like to show it, his unique playstyle of having both damage/tankiness/utlity, and his animation when he does all does things. It's really nice to see my favorite champion being covered, and I hope others try him out! Edit: Also, I should mention that I play league almost exclusively with friends, so while it doesn't necessarily solve Ornn's solo que problem, it really does help it.
@Eldex0
@Eldex0 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Volibear is the boomer that always says how everything was better in the old days while Ornn just wants peacefullness. Like when you pick him he just says "Fine, i'll go"
@vivimymaster
@vivimymaster 3 жыл бұрын
I recently started playing him and I love him. I usually go for warmogs early game so I can get the hp Regen then sit in lane and never leave. I've started playing him as support and it's good for when my adc leaves lane or their adc leaves lane. I just push
@Terrordragonfly
@Terrordragonfly 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn and Volibear are not rivals they're brothers and mortal enemies. Volibear tricked Ornn into killing his own followers the only followers Ornn ever had and grew to like cause they showed their devotion by trying to ever improve as craftsman which was very much to his liking. Even though he never officially acknowledged them as his followers it hit him very hard when they died even more so because it happened due to his own temper.
@padackthduck9118
@padackthduck9118 3 жыл бұрын
@@Terrordragonfly I did know about their extremely bad blood (I also found it cool and kind of sad that in Voli's rework, he shed his armor, meaning Ornn's followers even more meaninglessly), but their voice lines made me kind of consider them like rivals in the game. I guess it's just my weird head cannon ig
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 3 жыл бұрын
On other words ornn is a tsundere
@ayaanparkar5377
@ayaanparkar5377 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I have only played Ornn once, he does have a very special place in my heart. He helps with daddy issues, and definitely not the weird kind
@sspectre8217
@sspectre8217 3 жыл бұрын
I love playing Ornn, he’s my secondary after Bard. He’s so much fun
@studentbroke7507
@studentbroke7507 3 жыл бұрын
Bard Bard Bard Bard Diff
@jhinwick5251
@jhinwick5251 2 жыл бұрын
@@studentbroke7507 cringe
@Duothimir
@Duothimir Жыл бұрын
I've seen the fan art. It's the weird kind too.
@tasc
@tasc 3 жыл бұрын
I adore Ornn! Sorry to see him in this series. He’s really the perfect tank IMO- skill-expressive, scaling/teamfighting, enough laning tools to not get shoved around all early game. My guess of “why no one plays Ornn” is probably “he’s a tank”. Which might be enough in this day and age, unfortunately.
@Xertaron.
@Xertaron. 3 жыл бұрын
To simply put it - he's honest champion. He doesn't have a kit that is overloaded through the roof with clear strenghts, weaknesses and counterplay. Not like some who shall not be named.
@marinmarinhola
@marinmarinhola 3 жыл бұрын
There isn't a single "someone who shall not be named". Every champion released in the past 2 years is an overloaded mess. But yes, Akshan is the pinnacle of this.
@Xertaron.
@Xertaron. 3 жыл бұрын
​@@marinmarinhola My disdain for Viego as a character aside, his kit is very simple. Ofc he has too high numbers, but it just requires few nerfs, you don't have to chop half his kit to make him balanced (unlike Yone, Gwen or Senna). To be fair the only champions released in last 2 years that i like are Rell and Sett (even though he is currently too strong). Everyone else is either badly designed, characterized or both. Akshan i have yet to see in game, but his preview screams balance nightmare. Yone hijacked Zed's ult into his basic ability and made it better, Gwen did the same with Xin's ult and Akshan dug up Revive and removed it's cooldown. That's indeed broken beyond recognition and he seems like straight up better Sivir - more dmg, more mobility and more safety.
@marinmarinhola
@marinmarinhola 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xertaron. that would be true if Virgo didn't have his passive and ult reset. His base kit isn't that complicated but his passive combined with his ult reset make him overloaded as hell. He has every single basic ability in the game. That's overloaded as hell IMO.
@doublereel-real
@doublereel-real 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xertaron. in what way is akshan even slightly similar to sivir lol. He has a boomerang I guess, but akshan is a mid lane assassin that happens to be ranged more than anything.
@Xertaron.
@Xertaron. 3 жыл бұрын
@@marinmarinhola The thing is if you reduce his numbers he will have to work harder to get a kill, which will make reseting more difficult. The reason why it's overpowered right now is because his dmg is too high and he can reliably reset over and over. The only thing i would change mechanically is to make him keep his items when transformed, similar to Dota 2's Morphling. That would give him a niche instead of being good against everyone.
@lolialf
@lolialf 3 жыл бұрын
seriously hate how the meta is right now you either get one-shotted, or you one-shot the enemy
@robyfeh4586
@robyfeh4586 3 жыл бұрын
That's s11 in a nutshell
@runassincombustible5561
@runassincombustible5561 3 жыл бұрын
Yugioh, probably every other game
@erikb4407
@erikb4407 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer this meta instead of the wet noodle fights and games lasting 40 minutes each tank meta
@runassincombustible5561
@runassincombustible5561 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikb4407 I prefer that
@kiwiwasoncehere3623
@kiwiwasoncehere3623 3 жыл бұрын
@@erikb4407 I also prefer that, but that might be because I'm sick of this one shot meta rn. I just really think that it needs to shift away at some point
@Nipotazzi
@Nipotazzi 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ornn to a spiritual level: Toplane is basically my home, and together with Kled and Mundo I really like playing him. The reserved, very cool guy that understands your space and even if it hides it below a gruff face, he can show his love in many different ways... Ornn is the father I always desired, and that I will never have, sadly...
@hamter504
@hamter504 3 жыл бұрын
MY MAN! I main both Kled and Ornn! Used to play Mundo a lot before the rework, but now I can't really get the hang of him for some reason
@tomwanders6022
@tomwanders6022 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamter504 he is understatted, but still gets played in proplay, which is why he got nerfed. He is very killable now. I think he was better before this rework, because he could counter high cc and magic damage teams. Now that nieche is gone. Edit: sorry I meant him the guy who perfectly fits in the nieche, is gone.
@hamter504
@hamter504 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomwanders6022 youre talking about Mundo right? yeah, i miss his old magic resist passive on his E, it made some matchups much more tolerable. i also just enjoyed old mundo jg clear a lot more, new mundo clear feels... off.
@heckclothing
@heckclothing 3 жыл бұрын
I think the same! I main Poppy, Kled and Ornn
@Nipotazzi
@Nipotazzi 3 жыл бұрын
@@heckclothing i wanted to try Poppy too and wanted to ask, since she is a specialist but the meta changed alot, where is she supposed to be played now? Because I don't think Toplane is her thing anymore
@DeezN464
@DeezN464 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if he was a kpop star he’d be more popular
@belgirgucu3248
@belgirgucu3248 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't he a kpop star already?
@kruange3761
@kruange3761 3 жыл бұрын
@@belgirgucu3248 he is kpop daddy
@Hornpep
@Hornpep 3 жыл бұрын
I want Ornn to be in KDA now.
@k084lt3
@k084lt3 3 жыл бұрын
But then he has to be the pimp he actually is - long live SUGAR DADDY ORNN
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I'm sure Riot will give him an e-boy skin one day like they've been giving to other monster champs lately.
@cohoslash5893
@cohoslash5893 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn just wanted to be left alone and thats what he got fluffy man
@calvintuano557
@calvintuano557 3 жыл бұрын
i wanna pet him
@Eldex0
@Eldex0 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt Voli more fluffy?
@gawoopydawoopy758
@gawoopydawoopy758 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eldex0 Yes, really on Ornns face and around his shoulders is fluff, the rest of him is skin
@Zerum69
@Zerum69 3 жыл бұрын
"No one would buy anathema's chains" Math Leona: haha enemy adc got leaver buster warning
@purplereimu9701
@purplereimu9701 3 жыл бұрын
Last game I was playing sion, they had brand with liandry, I don't need to say anything else.
@angeliquekatherineharoterr6368
@angeliquekatherineharoterr6368 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Morgana already being capable of ccing a target for 9 seconds :)
@DerVasto
@DerVasto 3 жыл бұрын
@@purplereimu9701 But every Brand in existance is building Liandry´s though? And most of the time, Demonic for the triple burn, so annoying.
@BlazingDarkness
@BlazingDarkness 3 жыл бұрын
I sometimes build it on Anivia when there's one enemy with very high damage because they got fed so I can actually stay close to deal my damage. It's a very late item I'd get though since then my damage is already high enough
@zeening
@zeening 3 жыл бұрын
haven't finished vid yet but my god please tell this derpy didn't seriously say "no one would buy anathema's chains"
@bernardodelsolar3760
@bernardodelsolar3760 3 жыл бұрын
Is for the better, Ornn is fine in this moment. If he got more atention it will be bad for us main Ornns knowing riots balance team
@valerioferro7173
@valerioferro7173 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly I like how he is in the moment, I'm too tanky to die and I can 1v1 an urgot a level and item up on me
@rikuyuno241
@rikuyuno241 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god, he managed to tank Yone in the late game longer than others can, lets buff yone then make sure Ornn has lower base health...
@GengUpinIpin
@GengUpinIpin Жыл бұрын
But....but....more skins for him!
@benthebloon9588
@benthebloon9588 3 жыл бұрын
I would play ornn if shen didn’t exist. I think Orrn just leans a little too heavily into being a big beefy boi
@holydoggo4822
@holydoggo4822 3 жыл бұрын
love my beef lads
@chillbro2275
@chillbro2275 3 жыл бұрын
i'll add a little into the Shen hate -- guy is so annoying
@dominicbeckles6097
@dominicbeckles6097 3 жыл бұрын
Ha I main both. They're both equally as fun but I get what you mean I play shen more than I play anyone else
@dominicbeckles6097
@dominicbeckles6097 3 жыл бұрын
@@chillbro2275 He's annoying cause his whole thing is catching you lacking which people don't like.
@laurino.
@laurino. 3 жыл бұрын
Same, i Play Shen and when i can't play it or i'm against sett i play ornn, i have higher winrate with ornn but shen is just too funny to play xd
@guest_zzroman2076
@guest_zzroman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he, unlike other tanks takes some skill and the one time he was popular was when he could buy Sunfire/Abyssal and kill you by walking at you and missing everything. People that say tanks are boring are the same people who refuse to play any of the fun tanks.
@alolanvulpixruby3154
@alolanvulpixruby3154 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but sometimes the champs don’t have what you want even though there fun they don’t peak your interest
@VeneficusCubes
@VeneficusCubes 3 жыл бұрын
Tactical Goat is my fav tank to play. Did you know - triple britle proc combo deals 70% max hp magic dmg. On top of flat physical and 3s of knock up?
@MrToren01
@MrToren01 3 жыл бұрын
i remember at one point people thought of the idea of just literally trying to stay in lane to soak up as much EXP as possible to hit level 11 or 12 really early like 15 mins and with proper CSing and maybe some assists or kills you could rush double sunfire with merc treads and literally be unkillable because both sunfires would evolve and now you have like 300 armor with sunfire and like 3000 health, any AD toplaner was officially out scaled by that point since sunfire was at the time much cheaper then 2 bruiser or full on damage items.
@MrLuzakman
@MrLuzakman 3 жыл бұрын
I main tanks actually (Sion and Kench mostly) but Ornn's gameplay just doesn't click with me for some reason. Last week i gave him a try once more and just solidified this opinion.
@Dingdong2730
@Dingdong2730 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn is isnt as braindead as Malphite, Maokai or Poppy, but playing fighters in toplane, like Irelia, Fiora and Riven is generally much more fun and rewarding than more skill expressive tanks like Shen, Zac and Ornn, because these champs have much more kills pressure and do more with a lead, yet inherently offer much less value to their team. What you also need to consider is how the experience is of playing against certain champions feels like to the guy on the recieving end, and why it leads to the community wanting to have these champs nerfed. Last season I would ban Ornn in almost every single game I played top, for a few reasons. I got absolutely slapped everytime I played against it, Ornn dealt way too much damage, and his trading pattern is very much like "Get off me/get out of my way", which feels very unfun to play against. Then came the issue of how much better he scaled, I'd argue Ornn was the closest thing in the game to an autowin if the game goes above 30 minutes, I'd rather have an Ornn on my team lategame than Kayle or Kassadin. You felt like you were in a rush to end the game, yet you could not do anything in lane to further your lead, because if you run into Ornn, you just lose. Even in the rare case you got a big lead in lane somehow, Ornn would be more usefull to his team than you anyways. This season changed things tho, now everything shreds tanks, and Ornn feels much weaker 1v1 with just 1 evolved item, but unfortunately there are still many toplaners that are unfun to go up against.
@arcanumdelta
@arcanumdelta 3 жыл бұрын
i love ornn because of the free stats from ornnaments and his insane damage with brittle procs
@BraveLilToasty
@BraveLilToasty 3 жыл бұрын
Almost all the champs in this series I play. I just like the uniqueness of their playstyle and the pain I have to inflict on myself when I do.
@sacha9957
@sacha9957 3 жыл бұрын
Cries in Ornn, Trynda, Udyr, Braum, Cho'Gath, Trundle, Tahm Kench
@dominicbeckles6097
@dominicbeckles6097 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Ornn is probably my favorite champ to play. I recently started maining him and tbh he's underplayed because he's a high skill tank with easy to dodge abilities. Even if he gets buffed he'd either be broken or the numbers won't change the fact that you can just walk away from his ult.
@xaussiemarksmanx8381
@xaussiemarksmanx8381 2 жыл бұрын
Or just cc him so he cant hit his ult, or he miss timed it. XD.
@dominicbeckles6097
@dominicbeckles6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@xaussiemarksmanx8381 pain.
@Bojank_horseman
@Bojank_horseman 2 жыл бұрын
if you can land ult you just win and as you said high skill ceiling
@mandalorianmanic9525
@mandalorianmanic9525 2 жыл бұрын
As an Ornn main, thank you for making this. It really did hurt losing one thing after another as Riot tried to balance him, but he truly is the champion they forgot when the new season rolled around. His dash hitboxing is still pretty scuffed at times and many of the tooltip texts in his quick crafting menu are still unfinished. stuff like "Item_desc_ID_1101" kind of thing when other items are like "Crowd control and health gain." Just a nitpick, really, but it is good to see my boy get some attention in a video like this.
@sekira4516
@sekira4516 2 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair most of the missing text items for passive is new shit added after his release. but yeah the bugs with his E's hitbox needs to be fixed it actually gets him killed.
@VioletVile
@VioletVile 2 жыл бұрын
To this day, his tooltip mistakenly says the Force of Nature has health regeneration on it. Which it hasn't had in quite a while.
@infinitydesu
@infinitydesu 3 жыл бұрын
Tankiness and utility, my favorite tools when it comes to helping in teamfights. Ornn is like the perfect champ for someone like me, even his visual design is top tier.
@nicholas9268
@nicholas9268 3 жыл бұрын
“They did introduce the new item anathemas chains but no ones gonna buy that item” Anathemas chains becomes best rush item on Ornn in Korea 😅😅😅😅 no joke it is
@watawota2510
@watawota2510 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any video about the thing you said? Im curious
@aryaman_saini
@aryaman_saini 3 жыл бұрын
@@watawota2510 I think skill capped made one yesterday
@biggiecheese2004
@biggiecheese2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@watawota2510 you don't need a video it's a simple concept. ornn scales harder than all other tanks and wants a farm lane as much as possible. anathemas gives him very one sided trades in lane and is extremely threatening in ganks/dives if your jungler has extra cc with the tenacity debuff
@scrave8849
@scrave8849 3 жыл бұрын
@@biggiecheese2004 also remember ornn get bonus health from all sources making the damage reduction from anathema more efective
@vitortakara7090
@vitortakara7090 3 жыл бұрын
@@biggiecheese2004 not really useful bcz of the passive more important bcz the raw stat for really cheap, it has 650 health and 20 cdr (2300g for the raw stat) for 2500g is so good, the 2nd best option being warmog at 800 health and 10 cdr (2400g for the raw stat) + 600g in regeneration wich SUCKS ASS in lol when u explode in 5 sec, for 3000g which is so much better they can't be compared
@patriciaabad5387
@patriciaabad5387 3 жыл бұрын
its so sad to see Ornn get into these series, he's an awesome champion for many reasons, but also I'm very excited to watch this video on my birthday tommorow
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Happy early birthday!
@patriciaabad5387
@patriciaabad5387 3 жыл бұрын
Ty! Keep up your videos 💙
@Mirro18
@Mirro18 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn is my favorite tank. Beyond most other tanks that exist he feels like the one champ that actually feels skillful to play. That is something I am kinda missing with most other tanks who feel very much "I do 1 thing and then take damage"
@rangabharadwaj5730
@rangabharadwaj5730 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I gotta hand it to you. Literally your why no one plays made me try out singed, kalista, and azir. I love them all
@tygr6701
@tygr6701 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ornn, I just wish it wasn't so easy to counter build tanks.
@Robin00607
@Robin00607 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur then Play vayne kogmaw Lulu and See how fast you can kill him
@guyharding2954
@guyharding2954 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur ​ But as Vars mentions in the video tanks are meant to be strong mid-game. They start off weak with no armour, magic resist or health, then at around 2 items (mid-game) they possess more relative power than a 2 item adc + support. Despite in your anecdote you still killed the cho'gath meaning you won the fight, just that it took 8 seconds not 1-2 that you perceived your 3 kill lead made you believe you should achieve. What Vars states is that tank items have diminishing returns, such that with each successive tank item purchased the relative power increase is much less than an adc item purchase. Thus in late game you will shred/kite the tank. But i digress, i agree there should be counter-tank items but i would also like for there to be more niche tank items like in previous seasons like adaptive helm for dps mages or more unique actives in the mythic's rather than all 3 having sunfire passive + small extra effect. Less damage more utility is what i want.
@zeening
@zeening 3 жыл бұрын
@Arthur uhhhh yeah that's a fed cho'gath for you he heals MASSIVELY from his ult... wut does that have to do with ornn with 0 self healing? lol also thats your problem right there dude you don't build ONLY % armor pen vs tanks you build mostly lethality and THEN either lord doms/serylda's
@willow1601
@willow1601 2 жыл бұрын
@i am the n I guess if you get the kill its the bonus health plus the passive healing around 200+, not counting omnivamp runes
@quiz4624
@quiz4624 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ornnnnnn I should give him a try I’ve only tried him one time and that was when he was free. Why isn’t he played?!
@kulovicz3152
@kulovicz3152 3 жыл бұрын
He is tank of the tanks, his passive literally gives him bonus armour/resistance/health for every armour/resistance/health he gets from items. He also posses shit ton of CC and was considered champion with most knocups in his kit. Where is problem you ask? Well you could look at Vars video :,,Tanks: Why Do They Do So Much Damage? | League of Legends" and you will get your anwser. In the short there was added soooo much anti-tank stuff and champions and so little rewards that it is simply not worth it.
@jeluenhayo2410
@jeluenhayo2410 3 жыл бұрын
If only there was a video from some content creator that raises and explains this topic! If only... A man can dream, right?
@quiz4624
@quiz4624 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeluenhayo2410 I can only wish
@David-bu4cl
@David-bu4cl 2 жыл бұрын
Love Ornn, he's my main and will always have a special place in my heart. I just hope he gets more love from the skin dev team.
@cosmicbrownie2312
@cosmicbrownie2312 3 жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He is one of my favorite champs to play when it comes to "off meta" bot comps. Have my Yuumi friend sit on me, I rush Bramble, and I can do some good damage and basically never die or let the enemy bot get an advantage. It is hilarious
@Dzyntara
@Dzyntara 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are addictive! I've watched five in the playlist and now I want to watch them all.
@tiedyedbeard3439
@tiedyedbeard3439 3 жыл бұрын
I miss release Ornn, because everyone thought he was super weak and did not respect you at all. You could get the Gold income rune(forget the name) and just stay in lane the entire game and be 1-2 Levels ahead of your opponents. But then they buffed him and suddenly "you're not good at LoL you just are abusing something op!".
@Sxrew
@Sxrew 3 жыл бұрын
Kleptomancy
@xaussiemarksmanx8381
@xaussiemarksmanx8381 2 жыл бұрын
You have first strike now, maybe try again. XD.
@matthewgriesbach5925
@matthewgriesbach5925 3 жыл бұрын
Let's gooo! Finally a WNOP on my main and my main man Ornn, yeah baby!
@MarkazAlHaqq
@MarkazAlHaqq 3 жыл бұрын
250k M7 Ornn main here, this character his lore, look, persona, everything, hands down favourite champ in the game. Ornn supp is lowkey broken against most bot lane duos. His top pressure has slacked off a bit lately but hes so fun.
@infinitydesu
@infinitydesu 3 жыл бұрын
But isn't it a bit counterintuitive to bring Ornn as support if he's going to level up even slower?
@liandrysanguishinshin7955
@liandrysanguishinshin7955 3 жыл бұрын
Osiris yeah that's why you shouldn't do it.
@MarkazAlHaqq
@MarkazAlHaqq 3 жыл бұрын
@@infinitydesu slower yes, goal is to get 13 ASAP but once you get your team ahead it becomes easier.
@christianautilus374
@christianautilus374 3 жыл бұрын
one frickin sentence.. n e r f a n t i t a n k i t e m s.
@yazziminator
@yazziminator 3 жыл бұрын
Trynda w krakenslayer laughing Riven w black cleaver laughing Nasus w divine sundered laughing
@RegahP
@RegahP 3 жыл бұрын
i swear man, all the time, last game i played new lillia, i had like 4k health, riftmaker, demonic, cosmic, zhonyas, spirit visage later sold into thornmail, i was still getting oneshot by everything, sometimes it feels like either i gotta go full damage build, because on tank, bruiser or full ap build i am still getting oneshot on all cases, so at that point one shot them with a Q and burn them to death and then die, like, what's the point.
@meethepie
@meethepie 3 жыл бұрын
Both armor and magic pen nowadays is nuts to the point where they often feel like the best buys against both tanks and squishies. Can't remember the last time I've opted for rabadons over void staff or at least its penetration component.
@KevinKanthur
@KevinKanthur 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons is all the true damage in the game as well. You feel squishy as hell anyways even if you're a tank. In top lane specially. Sett, Gwen, Camille, Fiora.
@sekira4516
@sekira4516 2 жыл бұрын
well for Sett if you got hit by his true damage most of the time you deserved it since his W isnt exactly difficult to dodge, most people just dont bother walking the 5 feet to the side it would take to only get hit with physical damage for some odd reason.
@Darlingsoftie
@Darlingsoftie 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn is such a fun, expressive champion. Unfortunately unless a champion can 1v9 damage the enemy team they aren't going to be as popular in league solo que. There isn't any way to solve this, people don't trust strangers to take advantage of a champions utility. If Ornn didn't have such a hard scaling passive he'd probably have already ended up like Maokai in support more often. I'm glad champions that are more team oriented exist though, I derive a lot more enjoyment supporting a team than trying to do everything on my own.
@lolan7410
@lolan7410 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Ornn Main I have to say that with a pot into dorans shield in lane start, you have a pretty reliable early game sustain
@Lily-wd7dz
@Lily-wd7dz 3 жыл бұрын
One of the few tanks I enjoy. I love how everything he does feels like it has so much impact.
@zzxxccvvkk5
@zzxxccvvkk5 3 жыл бұрын
Buffs starts game w/ dorans shield, ring, and sword(no sell value). While near shop gets a 20%discount. At start an on lv up builds a shield =(12+lv)% max hp shield. Lower when can build mastereworks to lv 11. Add Ornn can build 6 mythic items.
@FeltonDood
@FeltonDood 3 жыл бұрын
Found your channel recently been binging your videos. I have to say your music choice is excellent.
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
I do take pride in my music choices XD
@FeltonDood
@FeltonDood 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm glad you take this extra step. Music can be an integral part of setting the mood or helping people remember the video more. Like the I'll remember the over powered abilities video more because I remember how well the music went with the tone and pacing of the videos themeing and topics.
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
Tnaks. Damnit…
@nibla02gamer84
@nibla02gamer84 3 жыл бұрын
I have played ornn since his release until i found irelia a few monthsback before i became a otp. Everything about ornn just feels right. His thematic to voice lines to visuals. I love all of it. I played over 100 games with him when rhe season was ending the next month. Everyone said he was bad on release but he wasnt. People were just building the wrong stuff. The only problem he had was mana which they fixed with his base mana buff. I will forever love Ornn as a champ and my goal is still to find who the voice actor of him is and i will always play him if we need a tank or irelia is picked
@ollemeister862
@ollemeister862 3 жыл бұрын
yo vars i would love to see you make a series about one tricks "why this is a onetrick champ" or something like that
@theBigBeepo
@theBigBeepo 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn is Tonk but in lane he can bonk
@howepellin
@howepellin 3 жыл бұрын
The clap Ornn....The clap.
@sopadefideos5636
@sopadefideos5636 3 жыл бұрын
W auto goes BUM
@maltl0af673
@maltl0af673 3 жыл бұрын
I think doing a video on champs who changed roles would be Interesting, maybe reasons why they changed and instances where despite riots attempts, they were still good in the old role
@HeTaLiA152
@HeTaLiA152 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like vars is just looking at my most played champs and making the vids for them
@freshtea228
@freshtea228 3 жыл бұрын
I am one of the Ornn mains because I love the feeling of "do you really wanna fight me? u know I won´t take any damage right? oops you are dead" but a mix of the upgrade level increase and the s11 item rework kinda made bruisers and slayers OP and tanks giga squishy. Also the "removal" of mana as a buyable stat makes laning on Ornn pretty whack since you either have to go corupting pot (but you cant really use the bonus damage on it because you cant trade) or basically never use Q.
@TheRealSimeon
@TheRealSimeon 3 жыл бұрын
I got him the other day. Very fun to play! One ornn tip that I read that really helped me: You can be pretty far behind in CS and kills and you can still bring it back and win the game. Just don't die too many times. I know that's a very straightforward tip but it's so easy to forget that and lose the match in your mind simply because you died a couple of times early on and you can't CS as much because of an oppressive lane opponent.
@pride3231
@pride3231 3 жыл бұрын
When true damage was the only problem with ornn hp wich never lost value would be my go to thing to max but now that divine surrender is the most meta thing too building HP gives the enemy more healing and building armor is just bonked by true damage and armor pen along with black cleaver
@grimlockgreg3063
@grimlockgreg3063 3 жыл бұрын
I play ornn religiously ( seriously, I have like 200k points on him ), and for the most part, I agree with you, but there a few things I like to say. 1: with the changes to warmongers armor, ornn can build it first item and can restore crazy amounts of health so that ornn can be passive and allow him to play passively until he can get bamis sinder ( or at least that's how I play it ) 2: ornn with a group of 3+ of people playing together ( group play, not solo) he can be vital since then he can build based on how well his team is doing. 3: ornn power spike is when he get his first item and the extra stats he gets his mythic ( aka Sunfire ) and allow him to become more aggressive without putting him it that much danger ( unless it's a fiora, seriously riot, why ) 4: while yes tank shreding exist, ornn build pure tank and with the crazy amount of healing he can get with warmongs , he can get out of any situation with just flash and 1 to 2 searing charges.
@dapu8033
@dapu8033 3 жыл бұрын
I really like ornn i just wish i could be tanky without a darius with black cleaver destroying me like a squishy. Even if i would do less dmg just make me tanky pls.
@imminotaur400
@imminotaur400 3 жыл бұрын
funny then that darius is one of his best matchups XD
@akatosh5792
@akatosh5792 3 жыл бұрын
@@imminotaur400 I mean darius builds cleaver second to third item and by than the laning phase is over, so ye
@dapu8033
@dapu8033 3 жыл бұрын
Im not really familiar with top lane I just needed an example that has armor pen. Probably should have used vayne or something like that. XD
@doublereel-real
@doublereel-real 3 жыл бұрын
@@dapu8033 in defence of vayne at least she is meant to be a tank buster.
@kindatim
@kindatim 2 жыл бұрын
"Nobody would buy anathema's chains" WTF, no. It's a great item, I love it.
@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw 3 жыл бұрын
oh i recognize the FFXIII music :D as an ornn lover i appreciate the use of it. the FF13 series might not be the best set of games ever but wow the music pretty much is the best ever.
@작은사마귀
@작은사마귀 3 жыл бұрын
I love how emphatically he said "almost twenty percent!" meanwhile Kai'Sa has hovered around that playrate since i started the game.
@totalcreepyotaku7387
@totalcreepyotaku7387 2 жыл бұрын
I recently picked up Ornn when he was a free champ, and instantly fell in love with his playstyle, if you can play it out, and maybe get some early kills, you can be a big decider in a match as Ornn can build a ton of items that give him shield, or sustainability, once again, a really fun champ once you know what u need to do.
@xaussiemarksmanx8381
@xaussiemarksmanx8381 2 жыл бұрын
Only started playing ornn. Only if upgrading allies had more range would be nice. Hate trying to chase them XD.
@leifbjerland9386
@leifbjerland9386 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the series and always enjoy watching them, but I had been wondering about the tree in the jungle, does Ivern make the requirements for a “Why no one plays”? If so I would love to see an episode with him!!
@boitata2617
@boitata2617 3 жыл бұрын
I play ornn because I like his characther, his animations, his design, his team player/CC heavy play style, his unique passive and awesome ult, might not be that strong but it's fun
@Ripevenriplier
@Ripevenriplier 3 жыл бұрын
Here waiting for Morgana episode. Name for it. The balance champion
@kulovicz3152
@kulovicz3152 3 жыл бұрын
This one ... this one will be sad. I am fond of Ornn. There was put so much heart into his story, his design and his gameplay. He even carried me out of silver. But now against all those 200 years champions with so much damage? Even sadder that he is the last monster champion done in four years.
@bevvvy1374
@bevvvy1374 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he really qualifies as a monster champ. He's just a dwarf with horns really
@kulovicz3152
@kulovicz3152 3 жыл бұрын
@@bevvvy1374 Well, still more monstrous than anything that came after him.
@jonathanchapman4781
@jonathanchapman4781 3 жыл бұрын
so happy ma boi got an episode
@aaronvegamariscal8758
@aaronvegamariscal8758 3 жыл бұрын
With all the horrible true damage items they are right now, he needs his W shield back
@ghostmaker4283
@ghostmaker4283 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn can't have a shield with that bs passive
@zeening
@zeening 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostmaker4283 oRnN cAnT hAvE a ShIeLd wItH tHaT bS pAsSiVe
@wastingsun
@wastingsun 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was funny how they never wanted to give Ornn a skin because he wasn't marketable, despite him getting picked in tons of pro play games which means he was being advertised all the time realistically. Unrelated, but when you're out of characters that fit "Why No One Plays", why not hit on some of the characters in the highest one trick territory? Something like Why Only One Tricks Play (insert name)
@umutyildirim8195
@umutyildirim8195 3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea imo
@alpacax797
@alpacax797 3 жыл бұрын
I love playing ornn he’s lots of fun and think that more people should try him out
@Eldex0
@Eldex0 3 жыл бұрын
I think he is broken. Every time i play him (especially clash) I have most damage, cc and take the most damage. I also can make my teammates stronger.
@howepellin
@howepellin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eldex0 or is just in a perfect timing that enemoes are bad.
@Eldex0
@Eldex0 3 жыл бұрын
@@howepellin every game? Nah that champ is damn strong
@howepellin
@howepellin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eldex0 really? Cuz Tanks in my server can just easily be melted by crits and lethality even Ornm.
@Eldex0
@Eldex0 3 жыл бұрын
@@howepellin Well i ban Vayne or fiora every game, but Ornn does not get melted if you play it right. Unfortunately Ornn relys on his team and yeah thats the aprt were i always fail
@bertustenhoor7191
@bertustenhoor7191 3 жыл бұрын
I loved ornn, i stopped playing after the item rework. he was fun because of the isborn gauntlet proc.
@pianostick
@pianostick 3 жыл бұрын
Ornn has been my current 1st pick top for like 5 months now. I love him
@asken2791
@asken2791 Жыл бұрын
10:44 Just as surprisingly, they brought this feature back to Wild rift. And he also made a new passive ability to give stakes allies, through which they can buy items anywhere.
@LichKingg23
@LichKingg23 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, you summed up very well why I only play Tanks (and kayle). I like to chip the enemy health piece by piece.
@Hopyoprop
@Hopyoprop 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh I hear that FF13 music in the background. Good music choices. :D
@mr.icebear8750
@mr.icebear8750 3 жыл бұрын
Just started playing ornn he's super cool his kit is awesome. I'm able to delay the game long enough to where I hit lvl 15 each time. But what you said is true it's all about offense and true damage now and he can't really keep up,BUT the 5k gold leap in power to your allies (even if they are behind) helps a lot. Reason being that since ornn is hardly played people forget what he does and how dangerous his late game can be. I'm a but based in what I say cuz I only have like 4 games with him and won each one. Lol good video though.
@finnhero9153
@finnhero9153 3 жыл бұрын
As Ornn Mein agrees, Ornn is a very team champion,his potential to solocarry the game is incredibly low(although there are a couple of such games) and it gets frustrating periodically when you realize that even after playing well, you will be useless if your team is absolute zero. But i steel love this sick Lamb guy
@dingas5632
@dingas5632 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention when Mythics were added. Ornn used to be able to build 2 of his own items, usually gaining 1000 hp AT LEAST at level 13. Now he can only upgrade his mythic, giving him much worse stats than before.
@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 3 жыл бұрын
I did. I literally had a segment where I talked about him having the best two item powerspike in existence.
@infinitydesu
@infinitydesu 3 жыл бұрын
They changed the possibility of a second upgraded item for the 4% increase of defensive stats per ally upgrade.
@Obosii
@Obosii 3 жыл бұрын
You thought we wouldn't notice the FF12 battle music in the background...but we did :)
@mrdjdrdug2083
@mrdjdrdug2083 3 жыл бұрын
Still no water in the fountain?
@mariosy7549
@mariosy7549 3 жыл бұрын
At 3:36 I felt that For those who didn't get it I was talking about him failing to last hit the cannon minion
@maniek412
@maniek412 2 жыл бұрын
As an Ornn main, I think you are correct, I have never played against an Ornn.
@tygr6701
@tygr6701 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why everyone plays morde. If only there was a clear and concise video essay to explain it to me.
@FirstnameLastname-gr5kb
@FirstnameLastname-gr5kb 3 жыл бұрын
Morde passive Go brr, morde ult go more brr
@MortumAngelo
@MortumAngelo 3 жыл бұрын
My boi Ornn is one of those champs you rarely see, but you are happy (or at least no one complains) when it's on your team.
@daboss4318
@daboss4318 3 жыл бұрын
When i played ornn few weeks ago,used to rush warmog so i could never leave the lane.That was kinda cool,though its very hard to grab money on mythic on lvl 13.
@alexandretremblay120
@alexandretremblay120 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea he’s such a cool champion
@garyfalloud3597
@garyfalloud3597 3 жыл бұрын
Since you made the series "Why no one plays anymore" you could also do a sereis "why everyone plays now". A good example is Xin, he was one of the least pickes champions for two years, and after his mini rework in 11.6 he has risen in popularity. Just dropping an idea for content.
@Aaron-bj3wt
@Aaron-bj3wt 3 жыл бұрын
its funny that this video came our right as i started picking up ornn. in the top lane im usually playing things like gnar or camille. but i picked up ornn because i wanted to see what he was like and just have a tank in each role that has one (top jungle and support. and in each role, i have ornn, sej, and thresh respectively) and he has been a blast trying to get right. sucks knowing that he has taken such a blow in popularity, but it just means i know he wont be banned or picked from me :)
@Rusty-ks2hg
@Rusty-ks2hg 3 жыл бұрын
I used to exclusively play support when I started playin in season 6. I then started playin mid every once in a while but I only stopped playing support when I started playing Ornn in season 9. Since then, top has been my primary role. The champ is really fun.
@Rusty-ks2hg
@Rusty-ks2hg 3 жыл бұрын
Additionally, I played a game the other day with 100k dmg negated (most in game), 40k dmg taken (most on game), 3 deaths (least in game), and 30k dmg dealt (5th most overall)
@RamonSpirits
@RamonSpirits 2 жыл бұрын
The final fantasy xiii soundtrack in the back is so cool
@sirseacow4514
@sirseacow4514 3 жыл бұрын
I once played a game where I was top laneing against a Kail. My friend knew that Kail was unnstopable in the late game, so he told me to make them recall as much as possible and to not die to them. I proceeded to spam my q to whittle down Kail's HP. They rage quit half way through the game. XD
@Drew19822002
@Drew19822002 3 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect video that explains the issues with tanks in todays LOL, and why no one plays tanks. High Five dude. Thank you for the video.
@the_silverking
@the_silverking 3 жыл бұрын
I always love ornns. even if they dont really help in the game and always make me lose, Juicy Juicy item upgrades :)
@aidanthomas250
@aidanthomas250 Жыл бұрын
I think it's funny that he said anathema chains is hyper specific. Tbh, it's a mainstay in most orn builds, if your laser beats you throw it on then and then as the game progresses throw it on the main carry of enemy team. Typically with a tank like ornn only 1 or 2 members of enemy team deal meaningful damage, so having anathemas is great for tanks as by past 3rd item flat armor and Mr are meh stats that fall off hard. Utility options like anathema, knights vow, even warmogs to stay on the map are more useful
@theucheao
@theucheao 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ornn, I just don’t play top and his play style is still something I need to get used to. Tbh I just don’t have time
@bloodravenn8305
@bloodravenn8305 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about Ornn specifically (waiting for the video), but I think tanks in general suck rn, their items are underwhelming, they get shredded in teamfights and there's so much true/max health damage and resistances pen in the game, as someone who loves to frontline I'd rather play a bruiser or a skirmicher, they may not be as tanky in terms of stats but their crazy sustain compensates for It, and damage as well.
@neveahphillips5610
@neveahphillips5610 3 жыл бұрын
This, tanks aren’t tanks, with all the max Heath % and true dmg running around (looking at you Viego and Gwen), tanks can’t do their job, they can’t tank anything without Viego going w auto q auto (full conq procs with that one little combo btw) and absolutely shredding them before they can do anything. Idk how to fix it either, they can’t just go and buff armor+mr numbers on every item, but at the same time that might be the only way to make them fun to play and legitimately viable. Rn if you want to be a big bulky champion you might as well just play sett, morde, or another juggernaut that can dish the damage back instead of a tank.
@jakubekch.3621
@jakubekch.3621 3 жыл бұрын
Tanks aren't played becouse you play solo q It's a free for all and they require a team They have a very hard time winning 1v1s (they aren't ment to do so) and since 1v1s and 2v2s are THE solo q environment that makes them repulsive to a lot of players
@Envojus
@Envojus 3 жыл бұрын
Tahm after his rework is awesome. Probably the only playable tank nowadays. But that's because he is overtuned. He can punishes and outsustains and outtrades any juggernaut or skirmisher in lane. And that's just by hitting his Q and AA'ing. Which is ironic,, since Ornn and other tanks are just too telegraphed. Like what's the point of playing a tank when you're as squishy as any other champion, can't splitpush well and your damage although a lot higher than back in the day, is still low? It doesn't feel like you're playing a tank when an Irelia can just quickly go in, do a few AA's, dash out and win the trade?
@bloodravenn8305
@bloodravenn8305 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakubekch.3621 Even in proplay which is a team game tanks are rarely played execpt in the support position, It's mostly bruisers and skirmiches top/mid and jungle
@neveahphillips5610
@neveahphillips5610 3 жыл бұрын
@@Envojus Tanks just aren’t an enjoyable class anymore, if you want individual power, if you want the ability to win the game to be in YOUR control, not your teammates, playing a tank is just about the worst thing you can do. Even when in an organized comp, unless the friend you are playing with is a really good damage carry (be it an assassin, bruiser or adc) being a tank is just not worth it. In a game with an atmosphere as competitive as league, being able to 1v9 grows more and more important, this is why champs like Kayn, Kha’Zix, Evelynn become more popular in the jungle, with nunu, zac and j4 all being sidelined. The same applies to top and support, people will choose Irelia and Pyke a million times before they choose Ornn or Alistar.
@SupahFib
@SupahFib 3 жыл бұрын
Why did it take 3 years to get a second skin for Ornn? 😔
@akatosh5792
@akatosh5792 3 жыл бұрын
Cause he s not a popular champion, funny hahaahahaha isnt it both funny and sad how lux gets a skin a year while other champs dont get one in 3 years, he s just not popular AND MONEY SELLS, league is a free game so riot wants money, that s it. And why would they put their resources into an ornn skin when they can just make another lux one and get 5 times the profit.
@espio329
@espio329 3 жыл бұрын
1. Monster man/Non human champ. Riot said that that monster/non human/beastmen champs aren’t popular so they don’t prioritize skins on them. 2. Not a pretty boi/Bishounen champ. Ornn is a burly goat god of fire and the hearth. He’s No sett, Ezreal, Yasuo, Yone. 3. Not a waifu champ. Ahri, Lux, MF, Samira, kaisa and senna are getting skins every other patch or so. Yet kaisa who came out a few months after ornn gets skins near instantly.
@zeening
@zeening 3 жыл бұрын
@@espio329 you just sent me down the weirdest fuckin rabbit hole googling bishounen, god damn you
@zeening
@zeening 3 жыл бұрын
@@espio329 2 hours of my life reading about kpop idols i'll never get back
@FoggyTheHippo
@FoggyTheHippo 3 жыл бұрын
I love Ornn and he was one of the first champs I ever tried, and to this day I main my Beefy Boi.
@herordik
@herordik 3 жыл бұрын
Since i first saw Ornn i liked his design, then free rotation came (some time ago), and I tried him since then im proud Ornn main
@Beastbrush
@Beastbrush 3 жыл бұрын
Building Ornn 2 sunfire capes as first items gave him immediately almost 150 armor & 500 HP when they where upgraded, AD champions where just tickling you.
@rimurutempest4945
@rimurutempest4945 3 жыл бұрын
I love playing Ornn. Even though he’s a tank, he does really good damage thank to his W and R, so it doesn’t feel so bad fighting with him.
@noahhightower8222
@noahhightower8222 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a Why No One Plays Syndra Anymore video? My favorite misunderstood dark mage needs some love!
@kreia187
@kreia187 3 жыл бұрын
Ornns Ctrl + 1 is my favourite emote in the game. Reason enough to play him.
@marshallneff1631
@marshallneff1631 3 жыл бұрын
I play ornn sometimes, and even if he would have 1% winrate, i wouldnt change this, because his voicelines are so good
@robertharp16
@robertharp16 3 жыл бұрын
My guess before release, he has a decent skill curve plus they pushed back access to him giving empowered items to his team mates with a side of heavy handed anti tank items and passives being prevelent in s11
@frostyhotcocoa7809
@frostyhotcocoa7809 3 жыл бұрын
I can agree with Riot that Ornn shouldn't gain resources after buying an item while not in fountain, but Ornn should still retain it's max HP% and max mana% after buying the items
@michaelthomas8077
@michaelthomas8077 3 жыл бұрын
Agree whole heartedly, still love my man ornn, but in solo que it's just pain.
@nunopenichet8698
@nunopenichet8698 3 жыл бұрын
Ffxiii ost, love it Nice vid, can you possibly do a why everyone plays Camille?
@frankieyuen9363
@frankieyuen9363 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda sucks that a whole role as been made mostly useless because of how much pen and true damage riot is giving everyone and thing. Walked in to a fight with 5k hp and 300 armour and didn’t even last 3 seconds.
@biggiecheese2004
@biggiecheese2004 3 жыл бұрын
it's because tanks can also oneshot now. the damage in the game is completely out of hand, tanks should be tanky and adcs/carry champs (azir, ryze, cass) should be the ones dishing out high dps. we're literally in league of oneshots right now and it's disgusting and boring
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