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@zxshadowxz3 ай бұрын
I like the implication, that with “there’s three”, the chair was asking for Bruce to elaborate on which one he meant, while Bruce is just having a crisis for the entire arc and never thinks to ask a follow up question.
@somethingclever42973 ай бұрын
At the very least he could of asked for the names of each of the three jokers.
@BainesMkII3 ай бұрын
The "there's three" answer doesn't really work with the final reveal, nor even within its own story. The final reveal was that one physical person became the "three Jokers"; the answer for anyone searching for the identity of the Joker is the identity of that one physical person. The teasing non-answer only really works if the Mobius Chair was intentionally screwing with Batman. (To be fair, the chair is apparently at least semi-sentient? So maybe it *was* legitimately messing with Bruce.) The answer arguably doesn't worth within its own story because Batman is apparently somehow so shocked at the impossibility (which is already silly in a comic book world) that he didn't even bother to complain or clarify the non-answer.
@gamelairtim3 ай бұрын
I also like the implication that Batman doesn’t want a full answer; he wants clues so he can figure things out on his own.
@markbasilejr11693 ай бұрын
@@gamelairtimi thought the implication was that he thought he knew the answer and was asking the chair in order to test it, which further implies he didnt think anyone except himself and someone who litterally knew everything would know those two things, which is absurd because the Joker has known those two things for a very long time. Batman would have to have known the actual answer or he wouldn't have put Jack's family into hiding, however at least in the continuity I am familiar with, Ridddler knew as well.
@nobodyknowsforsure3 ай бұрын
I liked the idea but hated how they used it.
@BlackFlash093 ай бұрын
Batman: The chair told me there were three Jokers. Green Lantern: So, naturally you asked for the real name of each individual Joker, right?
@beansfebreeze3 ай бұрын
I'm just glad they never called it Jok3rs
@ianfinrir87243 ай бұрын
Don't... don't give them ideas
@altalia073 ай бұрын
Omg😭
@Victor-qx3vx3 ай бұрын
That title is reserved for Folie a deux’s sequel
@joluoto3 ай бұрын
That's a missed opportunity.
@jfrsnjhnsn3 ай бұрын
Jok3rzz
@tomjames96813 ай бұрын
There were actually 3 Sasha’s all along: The Superman’s girlfriend Lois Laner The obscure character deep diver And the most twisted of all… The cursed panel-er 🃏
@djpegao3 ай бұрын
Don't forget the 4th one.... _....the soft serve fixated one..._
@BoSmith70453 ай бұрын
That would explain how she finds time for all these deep dives with little kids running around. One to research. One to write the script, and one to record. And all three wear different wigs around the house.
@Solo_Sessums3 ай бұрын
There's a card emoji? Edit: Oh I Found It!🃏
@johnpotts83083 ай бұрын
Now we need a recut of this episode so we can tell which Sasha/wig combo is the real one and what the true message is...
@leephillips44023 ай бұрын
@@djpegao we're all that one deep down.
@figgy66663 ай бұрын
Watching you swap between the 3 wigs got me more excited then this plotline.
@kermitgotthesickkicks42653 ай бұрын
Same lol
@danielendless3 ай бұрын
Savage
@AJDPharmD3 ай бұрын
Seriously.
@bennywashington45363 ай бұрын
❤
@viniciuscristovao60313 ай бұрын
>has a chair that can answer any question >doesn't ask who the 3 jokers are World's greatest detective
@alexanderf84513 ай бұрын
"everyone lives because you haven't decided to kill them" is one of the worst lines in comicbook history, IMO.
@danielwalker81333 ай бұрын
I think that's a bit dramatic, it's not good but it's not shattering the comic book medium
@leephillips44023 ай бұрын
90's writers: It is! Then we're not doing our jobs.
@apollolux3 ай бұрын
It's chock-full of edgelordium.
@cartoonishidealism5823 ай бұрын
I'm still stuck on the line at 12:23 "The third is calm like a black ocean at night. And like that ocean all that waits for you is COLD DEATH" Ow. The EDGE. Also the line before that. "I don't believe in heaven or hell, but if I did I'd think this man had existed for millennia, tormenting humanity in service of something greater." What does that even mean.
@JC4Stuffs3 ай бұрын
@@cartoonishidealism582 I'm pretty sure its supposed to be referencing another idea floated around in the comics that the Joker was the result of some deep evil seeded into the heart of Gotham that had plagued the location for centuries. And the Joker we knew was just the latest form that evil had taken
@mbriancohen3 ай бұрын
Never understood why "The World's Greatest Detective" never asked a follow up question.
@jpboursaw44693 ай бұрын
My feeling is this: while Batman may be DC’s greatest detective, not all of the writers are. Apply to any medium you choose.
@altalia073 ай бұрын
@@jpboursaw4469srsly, ffr
@SlimmArmstrong3 ай бұрын
For the same reason Hacksnider turned Batman into the World’s Biggest Dumbass in the bVs abomination… the writer had no idea how to tell a good story about BATMAN, how BATMAN would act and what BATMAN would do. They spend way more time and effort on what THEY would do and the choices they would make if they were Batman. And it completely ruins things every single time.
@chwenhoou3 ай бұрын
That can be chalked up to three words. Lazy, sh***y writing.
@dastardlywun3 ай бұрын
@@SlimmArmstrong this applies to every writer in history what are you even yapping about right now?
@freddyP3003 ай бұрын
I feel like people have been overstating Joker recently. Like He's the most dangerous man in the planet? Not Lex, Savage,Faust, Kent, Thwane? Also I like Joker being a random element that results from Batman rather than someone sculpted to oppose him. Feels like it cheapens the relationship imo
@brettwood13513 ай бұрын
The flipside of the coin for Batwank, Joker wank. The greatest threat ends up being a deranged clown who's decent at chemistry.
@SingularityOrbit3 ай бұрын
All of this comes from writers obsessed with "the Batman/Joker Dichotomy." They seem to think Batman keeps Joker alive because Joker is somehow important. He's not important to Batman, beyond being a dangerous criminal to stop. Batman doesn't kill the Joker simply because the Joker is human. The more the writers add in superhuman abilities ("super-sanity," vast intellect, super-powerful manipulation, and of course immunity to death becoming increasingly text instead of theme) the more likely Batman is to consider the Joker a nonhuman super-threat some day, and just stand aside while someone like Jason Todd takes him out and destroys the body.
@gembish16813 ай бұрын
I think the pre-New 52 era balanced the Joker best. Lex is certainly an alpha villain, but he makes it a point to include the Joker in his villain team-ups because it would be more of a headache to exclude him.
@SingularityOrbit3 ай бұрын
@@gembish1681 Considering it was the New 52 that started the whole stupid mess of Joker getting his face cut off, there's no way I could disagree with you.
@Lukecash23 ай бұрын
@@SingularityOrbitI actually think Scott Snyder run was brilliant as it subverted expectations by making the Joker more of a slasher horror monster. Along with having a supernatural subtext later, again subverted as being a Court of Owls propaganda. But even Snyder didn't give the Joker background or origin. Except he was the Red Hood.
@The_Phantasm3 ай бұрын
Jason Fabok's art was the best part about Three Jokers.
@CasuallyComics3 ай бұрын
Re-reading it for this video I kept having these "gosh this is a gorgeous book" moments.
@ThirteenOhEight3 ай бұрын
I bought the Absolute version and I completely agree with you.
@altalia073 ай бұрын
His art is absolutely fantastic
@robs69523 ай бұрын
Best part by miles!
@jimgillespie61093 ай бұрын
I got to look at the third issue last year. I couldn't believe how gorgeous the art was . Especially Batgirl!
@XescoPicas3 ай бұрын
I, for one, think the Joker is a lot more interesting when his importance is downplayed. The difference between him and the rest of Batman’s rogues gallery is that he is essentially Batman’s stalker. He doesn’t really have a plan on what to do AFTER killing him, their rivalry is Joker’s only reason to keep going. But making this relationship mutual just doesn’t work. Batman doesn’t need the Joker, he never has, and his life would be better without him in it. Hell, imagine how funny it would be if he didn’t even consider Joker to be his real nemesis. If Bruce secretly held a bigger grudge toward, say, Bane, for example. But Joker is unable to even entertain that thought. He NEEDS to believe that Batman spends as much time thinking about him as he does thinking about Batman.
@somethingclever42973 ай бұрын
The problem with it is that the writers are obsessed with the joker. Every big batman plot is about the joker.
@somethingclever42973 ай бұрын
This makes me think of the scene from the Lego batman movie.
@MisterCynic183 ай бұрын
@@somethingclever4297As are the fans. There'd be outrage if you were even to suggest the joker is not some badass antichrist figure
@comicdans77323 ай бұрын
Yes to this. Part of the Joker is his need to be important. Not that he actually is. Whether he is a genuine criminal with a grandiose persona, a goofy clown trying to treat the world like a dark comedy for laughs, or a monster committing horrific atrocities, it's all because he needs attention. He needs to matter. So when his level of importance or ability is propped up by the writers it takes away from what actually makes the character special and interesting to the audience..
@XescoPicas3 ай бұрын
@@comicdans7732 Maybe if less writers bought into the Joker’s hype, we’d have less insufferable incels going on about how he was right all along
@CometX-ing3 ай бұрын
"Twitter/X/Hell" caught me off guard.
@leephillips44023 ай бұрын
Twitter was three Social Networks this whole time, that was the biggest twist of all.
@klaykid1173 ай бұрын
That got me good that got me to pause the video and just laugh out loud
@VenkCutterman3 ай бұрын
I mean, she ain’t lyin’
@ThermiteKitty3 ай бұрын
The true Three Jokers
@Forcemaster20003 ай бұрын
I tend to fall into the camp of "the Joker is used way too much". I'd like to see other members of the rogues gallery get their day in the sun!
@goldenfiberwheat2383 ай бұрын
Worst example of that is probably killing him off in Arkham city, making a prequel where black mask is the main villain only for it to be revealed that joker killed him and took his place, and then making a sequel where scarecrow turns Batman schizo, causing him to see joker everywhere. Funny thing about that is that it was mark hamill’s biggest role of 2015(in terms of screen time), despite, well, you know
@JohnWilsonComicsGuy3 ай бұрын
The idea of three (or many) Jokers as mental states of the same man makes a lot more sense than three different physical beings running around as the Joker and Batman hadn't realized it years ago. He's supposed to be the world's greatest detective. The most observant man on the planet. He couldn't tell that there were three different men under that shock of green hair? Plus, Joker has always reveled in his own uniqueness. Surely, one of them would have killed the other two ages ago.
@queazy033 ай бұрын
In the Three Jokers comic I think I remember Batman addressing this, that Joker would be doing a crime which should be impossible because Joker was already in prison.
@PosthumanHeresy3 ай бұрын
Eh, given the brutal beatings The Joker takes, I can accept that he can't figure that one out. "Well, after the last time I destroyed his face, yeah, he needed a lot of surgery. And given all the other times I've done this, that entire face is made out of reconstructive surgery". Batman can easily write it off as "Joker's face keeps getting shattered and reconstructed so of course he doesn't look the same". It's not like the model for MJ in the Spider-Man games looks like the same person after her face was shattered irl and it was rebuilt.
@wellesradio3 ай бұрын
“But they were all clowns… committing CRIMES! I assumed you’d only ever encounter one of those in your life.”
@wellesradio3 ай бұрын
@@PosthumanHeresyGreatest detective right there. “Uh…. really good plastic surgery? Also, a little weight gain once in a while, happens to the best of us. And I assumed he smoked, hence the voice change. The eye color? Oh, easy, contact lenses. And lifts in his shoes made him an inch taller. You see, he thought that if he changed just slightly, I wouldn’t recognize him. Clever trick, but not clever enough!”
@Dusty_B3 ай бұрын
Surely the chair wouldn’t be so pedantic
@paperknigth22633 ай бұрын
I unironically didn't know that Sasha was wearing wigs all this time. I thought she changed it every day like Ramona Flowers and that her hair fiber was absolutely destroyed by the dye.
@fnln30113 ай бұрын
It's just the timelines converging pay it no mind
@ScarletSilverIron3 ай бұрын
The problem with the Jokers is that there don't feel like three different people. It only works if make them feel and act differently from each other. The Clown shouldn't be a murderer. The Criminal shouldn't be funny and be the mastermind. If they are too close to each other then the idea doesn't work.
@fredrickbeondo86953 ай бұрын
Your point is taken, but my feeling has always been that, much like how we follow the recent exploits of characters who irt are in Batman's case an octogenarian LOL, the concept was meant to 'explain' the multitudes of cuckoo like cocoa puffs that seemed to inhabit this one force of chaotic random, so there has to be a throughline between Jokers as they are all dark but their 'different' outward modal operandi define those three 'main' Jokers as described/defined. But when the 'hey let's make some more Jokers!" part came in it lost a lot of momentum in being what they were trying to make it when it was supposed to slot in before Doomsday Clock and (possibly)could have gone through the smell test Sasha defines as whether popularity would bring it into canon, and maybe it would have seemed less WTF than it turned out to be in the wake of both Covid and the regime change at DC, so much so we are here watching a video about it 4 years later [shrugs]😁
@MidnightIsolde2 ай бұрын
I think this is the inherent flaw of the concept though. These three Joker archetypes are in fact not totally divergent. The Criminal is meant to be the first Joker iteration. This one is popularly alleged to be serious rather than funny, but I don't agree. The early 40s Joker did not have all the clown paraphernalia, but definitely had mirth. He was much like the classic villain archetype which has a humorous element (think Sweeney Todd - not the musical, the original penny dreadful and melodrama plays). The Clown is meant to be bronze age. Again, this one was most definitely murderous as well as clowny.
@MrMarvelMike22 күн бұрын
I mean they aren’t supposed to be explicitly different.
@Solo_Sessums3 ай бұрын
I once read something that said the chair told batman "i can't tell you. The writers won't allow it." But i had no concept of what a "shitpost" was so i took that as fact. Looking back, that unironically would have been a more interesting and eerie thing for the chair to have told him. It'd be like, he ascended to such a high level, he knocked on the very boundaries of his reality, and what he saw was so startling it knocked him back down to earth. That, and they wouldn't have had to write some convoluted story around it.
@PosthumanHeresy3 ай бұрын
That actually would fit really well, honestly. Reminds me of the metastory of Final Crisis.
@jedimastertimelord88503 ай бұрын
That would be like when the fantastic four met the one above all and it was jack kirby
@tavianfloyd65893 ай бұрын
The joker is insane. Thats all the explanation that was ever needed for his differing characterizations. I really wish they never introduced the idea.
@ariadnefrolich72433 ай бұрын
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.
@MidnightIsolde2 ай бұрын
And very mercurial. Meaning that, he is as likely to be amusing and magnanimous as he is dangerous and cruel. Whatever the mood takes him. He can be a harmless clown one moment, and murderous the next. Whatever type of performance he feels like doing this week lol
@danielendless3 ай бұрын
What I love most about this retcon is that it made the Mobius Chair NOT all-knowing
@The_Phantasm3 ай бұрын
10:06 "Steve Jobs" Joker I'm pretty sure is meant to be Joker from Batman Beyond Return of the Joker.
@CasuallyComics3 ай бұрын
Poor Tim
@Alice-me2qk3 ай бұрын
@@CasuallyComics When I was a child, I always turned off the VHS tape after the Tim scene because of how upsetting it was. I never finished the move until I was a teenager.
@Alice-me2qk3 ай бұрын
Batman Beyond Return of the Joker is a better Killing Joke adaptation than the actual adaptation from 2016.
@MatthewPrower3 ай бұрын
man imagine tim cook having a joker microchip in him
@anitanielsen10613 ай бұрын
69 nice!
@PutzShaka3 ай бұрын
Holy shit, “IM NEVER LEAVING THIS CHAIR.” You’re Batman impression is on point 👌🏾
@KennAKALeo3 ай бұрын
I hope that chair had a hole for shit. The Mobius Toilet.
@dragonberrymead95253 ай бұрын
Give us more Jokers. 5 Jokers. 10 Jokers. 69 Jokers. 420 Jokers. All of the Jokers.
@godofzombi3 ай бұрын
The legion of doom where everybody is the Joker.
@joelpartee5943 ай бұрын
The Cross Time Council of Infinite Jokers
@radiant_ways07463 ай бұрын
I find Zdarsky's Three Jokers explanation to be the logical endpoint for Morrison's concept of super sanity. It's the reason why the Joker acts so differently in different eras for Batman, why he can be a funny trickster, into a psychotic maniac to a calm and reserved killer, to simply a chaotic force of nature.
@CasuallyComics3 ай бұрын
It makes sense as well from a thematic standpoint since Zdarsky is pulling on threads from that run specifically.
@Lukecash23 ай бұрын
Problem is that Morrisons approach is and was heavily flawed with explaining things that do not need explanation. There is absolutely no need to include everything in continuity. Nor is there a need for metatexual explanation.
@AstraFulminous3 ай бұрын
@@Lukecash2I disagree, what hits the comic book paper outta be resolved on the comic book paper. Otherwise there is even more confusion.
@Cashmoneez3 ай бұрын
@@Lukecash2 the thing is that core audience that buys comic books nowadays love continuity. Theres a reason why so many comic movies, cartoons, etc. are done in their own universes end up being more popular
@PosthumanHeresy3 ай бұрын
I feel like everyone forgets that the super-sanity isn't supposed to be taken seriously. The person saying that is explicitly supposed to be as insane as The Joker. That's like, the point of that scene. The next few lines after that are that doctor suggesting it as the next stage of human evolution. The story ends with Batman freeing _everyone_ from Arkham because Arkham is evil in a Lovecraftian way and turns everyone who works or lives there insane. The landmass that Arkham is built on created an entire stable timeloop that causes its own destruction in that story. Super-sanity was never correct, it was the first sign that Arkham doctors are as insane as Arkham patients.
@wendellstephens63113 ай бұрын
1:46 Hal even has a construct beer can! 😂
@gembish16813 ай бұрын
What was most frustrating for me at least is that you COULD split the Joker into three easy facets, but the series seemed to miss the mark. It seems easy to do Mob Boss, Prankster, and Serial Killer. Instead we have Mob Boss and Prankster/Serial Killer muddled into each other.
@CTheng3 ай бұрын
I really love the unaddressed wig changes throughout this video. 😂
@SpectrumPOV3 ай бұрын
It seems like they're trying to give answers, but also raise more questions and they're doing a bad job at both of those.
@PabSungenis3 ай бұрын
It took me until 16 minutes in to figure out the reason the hair color kept changing was that there were three Sashas.
@drewgeraci84343 ай бұрын
Your Batman voices always cracks me up
@ladyoftheabyss133 ай бұрын
In all honesty, I hated The 3 Jokers story. The things that I had read about it was leading me to believe everyone most effected by The Joker's actions were going to give each person some closure to the trauma they endured. Mainly Jason and Barbara. It didn't do any of that. It seemed to make it much worse especially for Jason. I could have done without all of that nonsense. Lately it just seems like DC just wants to abuse Jason in stories.
@demetriesrivera65603 ай бұрын
So if you ask the Mobius chair, who is Batman. Will it say that there's two batmen because of Zur-en-ar?
@ghostrouxinol61693 ай бұрын
I wish Three Jokers was a plot line where The Joker kidnap and mindcontrol 2-3 victims to be The Joker so they can make his plan go as plan without Batman or Batfamily stop him. The Tree Jokers would never last. Having more than 1 character makes crowed and hard to use. Limit to 1 makes easy to tell stories without going where are the other 2?
@ayoimiideoshikanlu85053 ай бұрын
That angle would neatly tie into the Batman beyond Return of the Joker. I think that would have been a beautiful approach to explaining the 3 Joker’s. It would even suggest that his madness even confuses the chair. All 3 represent facets of him and he embodies all 3 of them.
@ghostrouxinol61693 ай бұрын
@@ayoimiideoshikanlu8505 I dont think anyone in DC is interested on writing a Batman Beyond Title. The problem with Batman's works is that they want to be "realistic" but make them this unstoppable force of nature.
@phabiorules3 ай бұрын
Well if I remember correctly, the other 2 are now dead.
@AstraFulminous3 ай бұрын
Joker already did that during the previous Arc before Joker Year 1. The Victim gained Amnesia and began acting like he was the original.
@AstraFulminous3 ай бұрын
And after losing his mind tried to kill the original and any others in a turf war.
@Therese5043 ай бұрын
Fun fact: I was knitting and not paying much attention while watching and I kept looking up to see you in different wigs and I thought I was hallucinating lol
@skug9bob3 ай бұрын
I'm fine with the idea that the Joker having multiple personalities: Grant Morrison did something along those lines in Arkham Asylum: A serious House My Joker, bent and whipped like a sapling in a breeze, was a damaged human being reacting to every shift in the zeitgeist, every change in the weather, by constructing a new personality in response. This made him a man of a million false fronts - as he was described by Bill Finger in a very early story. Rolling with the flow made him unstable, prone to revision at the drop of a purple hat, but true to decades of stories. What I _don't_ like is the notion that he owes it to the efforts of some wandering super-psychiatrist. By making him someone else's deliberate creation, it diminishes him and makes him more mundane, a construct rather than a unique oddity.
@VerdantRange3 ай бұрын
I wish that the claim the "The Killing Joke was never meant to be canon" would just stop. The book was planned to canon from the get go. Barbara Kesel, the writer of Batgirl Special #1 stated that she was commissioned to write that book specifically to set up the status quo change for Barbara in The Killing Joke, and the first mention the events of The Killing Joke was a few months later in the first part of the Death in the Family arc.
@PosthumanHeresy3 ай бұрын
No, that's wrong. Batgirl Special #1 is a send-off, not a setup to the new status quo. In fact, Batgirl Special #1 actually _further_ cements that it was never meant to be canon. Why? Because Batgirl Special #1 is _explicitly_ a Pre-Crisis Timeline story. It frequently and heavily refers to the Pre-Crisis canon and lore, _not_ the Post-Crisis canon and lore. As does The Killing Joke. The Killing Joke was meant to be the Batman version of "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?", the final Pre-Crisis story for Batman the same way that that story was the final Pre-Crisis story for Superman.
@yurilouback63313 ай бұрын
I've read some of Batman's Golden Age stuff recently. Everything about him was really rough back then and improved over the years. Except one: The Joker. I personaly think Golden Age Joker was simply the best depict of the character. He was cold, calculist, a twisted and sadist genius. Feels a lot like Ledger's Joker. I think most versions of the character that came later are either too goofy/silly or too desperately edgy.
@nigel_saxon3 ай бұрын
The Three Jokers plot sounds like The Joker infected from Arkham Knight
@leephillips44023 ай бұрын
Or the Valaska Twins from Gotham.
@JohnWilliams-wl9px3 ай бұрын
Sadly the multi Joekr plot is quickly becoming a trope as this point
@leephillips44023 ай бұрын
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px better than endless progressively worse references to The Killing Joke.
@SpaceJawa3 ай бұрын
I remember when Three Jokers was originally a thing while Doomsday Clock was happening; at the time I theorized that one of the Jokers was actually the child of Mime and Marionette that Dr. Manhattan brought with him to the DC Universe when he moved over.
@Dougeb73 ай бұрын
Your outro is so sweet, it always makes me happy. A triple "bye-bye" is MAGIC!
@DCMarvel20093 ай бұрын
Now hear me out, imagine if they made an animated adaptation of Three Jokers... Troy Baker: The Clown Richard Epcar: The Comedian John DiMaggio: The Criminal (Mark Hamill retired Joker already, plus even if he WAS cast, people would probably assume the one Joker he was voicing was the "real" Joker.)
@bsommervold3 ай бұрын
This illustrates the importance of head cannons. I had my own thoughts on how the joker evolved in his eras without being told. It’s fun adding to the story with your own details. Having a specific explanation kinda takes the fun out of a character that has thrived on mystery and multiple choices. It’s not a huge deal because backstory details are changed constantly but for me it’s not the twist the writers think it is. It’s just making 1 guy 3 caricatures of a caricature
@OhNoBohNo3 ай бұрын
Batman’s three weed-smoking girlfriends, and yes, they do smoke weed
@gregcourtney7513 ай бұрын
But do they smoke weed?
@altalia073 ай бұрын
@@gregcourtney751Not just weed!
@_SoCalYellow_3 ай бұрын
smorking*
@italucenaz3 ай бұрын
Perfect refference
@FallenGemini3 ай бұрын
"Twitter/X/Hell." That line made me chuckle
@michaelbrown98773 ай бұрын
The three Sashas....wigs galore 😂😂
@briang95813 ай бұрын
Batman: What's the Joker's true name? Chair: Tuesday at 5pm
@jimmyz26843 ай бұрын
I love how Geoff Johns cuts through the myths of Batman characters, both in this and Earth One. The Joker isn’t some tortured philosopher who went mad from one bad day, he was an abusive asshole who made himself the victim
@markbasilejr11693 ай бұрын
Jack in the killing Joke was no philosopher. Joker has always, in every continuity been anti-philosophical. Socrates stated that the unexamined life is not worth living, wereas no incarnation of the joker sees value in examing one's life. even in the killing joke, the implication of his stance is that tragedy would wipe away anything philosophy could give you. he is basically the foil to Socrates in a Platonic dialogue where Socrates says something like "the best life is a moral life" and the other guy repliess "pfff if I stab you and take your stuf I live a good life and you don't live at all". The joker is not a philosopher; the joker is a philosopher's foil. Although I wouldn't call Batman much of a philosopher either.
@fslayer12903 ай бұрын
@@markbasilejr1169Great points!
@santiagoacosta33723 ай бұрын
Changing your hair color and makeup between shoots is such a power move 😭
@NathanWeeks3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the commitment to the bit; even three different lipsticks!
@nobodyknowsforsure3 ай бұрын
That thumbnail is winning 1000% Your Batman voice though 😆
@harryseaward34083 ай бұрын
"We have Prof. Hugo Strange at home." That is hysterical 😂
@cooperjordan15543 ай бұрын
In my headcanon there is only one physical joker with a bunch of different personalities, and thanks to his training from "we have hugo strange at home" he can make those personalities imprint on other people through torture and psychological conditioning.
@ramblingRJ3 ай бұрын
I wonder if the Three Jokers was inspired by the three versions of Blofeld in the Ian Fleming Bond novels. In each of the three books he appears in (Thunderball, On her Majesty's Secret Service and You Only Live Twice) he has a different alias and radically different physical appearance, indicating that he is slowly losing his sanity. In 'Thunderball' he's an obese middle aged man with a crew cut. In OHNSS, he has changed his name to Compte Balthazar de Bleuville and is now tall and thin with no earlobes. In YOLT, he calls himself Dr. Guntram Shatterhand, and has put on a lot of muscle and has gold teeth. These changes illustrate his plunge into insanity.
@woobiefuntime3 ай бұрын
Blofeld became a title for the head of spectre
@Chronoplague3 ай бұрын
I always wondered why they made such drastic recasts for the character in the films and why they felt like they needed to explain it in the plot.
@ninjaconsultantsixshot3 ай бұрын
Now the question is which Joker in Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing was the real Joker.
@chloeirnes3 ай бұрын
Great video as always! Making the 3 Jokers just a mind trick was an absolute cop out. I love the idea and was disappointed we never got a "real" answer!
@the_cyberchill3 ай бұрын
I like the idea in concept, three jokers, allowing for three different personalities each based on aspects taken from the different adaptations, of the character.
@NelmArt3 ай бұрын
I love the commitment to the three jokers theme with the three different wigs/looks!
@HandofOmega3 ай бұрын
So, was this before or after "the Joker is actually immortal" storyline? And does Batman know Joker's true name or not?? And that Hugo Strange knock-off taught Batman about psychology, sure...but what did he actually "teach" the Joker? How to be insane...? Speaking of, I think it was Grant Morrison's run that suggested the Joker is actually "hyper-sane", having an evolved form of consciousness that adapts so well, that he basically becomes different personas over time...
@ItsOver9000Productions3 ай бұрын
joker being immortal was trick he was playing on Batman and Gordon. That was years ago
@HandofOmega3 ай бұрын
@@ItsOver9000Productions Ah, ok, thanks! When you get your comic lore from videos like this, it all tends to blur together...lol
@GenerationWest3 ай бұрын
The Three Sasha's: Dark Emerald Sasha, Florescent Lime Sasha, and Green Highlight Sasha (Twitter, X... Hell lol)
@devonbleck66393 ай бұрын
The current joker having three personalities and being trained by the same teacher is just a different origin story for the joker that is still a good for the current continuity.
@armandotorres89623 ай бұрын
3 Sasha’s? Green Arrow’s worst nightmare and Lois Lane will pick only one! Side story is the Avengers disbanding while they have the chance.
@kokujinblack773 ай бұрын
I'm in love with your Batman voice impression
@iceryu663 ай бұрын
I image the chair answering like a wikipedia search and showing a list of people who have gone by the name Joker through out all of time / universes / reboots
@needsmoretacos48073 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed it when creepy or disturbing things like 3 jokers are left ambiguous and unanswered
@moonprincesst.s.h.4ever1153 ай бұрын
Your black and green wig looks just glorious on you, Sasha! Have a great day! 🌞
@JSan-ek2np3 ай бұрын
This purple and green are really nice with your skin tone. As always great comic knowledge and lore breakdown!
@Variab13Ай бұрын
3:40 Batman misunderstood the chair. The chair said the Joker's name was "There Are Three" but he thought it meant there are three Jokers. Easy mistake.
@manni17b3 ай бұрын
This is literally the only comics channel I've seen that gets basic pronunciation correct. Good work
@CasuallyComics3 ай бұрын
How Many Jokers Is To Many?
@AlienIOIandroktone3 ай бұрын
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@Raptermonster243 ай бұрын
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@Marc-Tea3 ай бұрын
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@Hawkatana3 ай бұрын
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@patrickhouchard55323 ай бұрын
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@awesomeewok7333 ай бұрын
I'm always here for that amazing Batman impression. Just adds to a great video
@thatboi76293 ай бұрын
I feel like DC was too afraid of rocking the boat to commit to the idea. For better or worse, we had three jokers, and i think they should have run with that.
@hotspurre3 ай бұрын
LOL. I can't believe I didn't realize you were changing the wigs until you flashed all three of "you" at the end. Something subconsciously bugged me about it, but I didn't realize what it was until then. Nicely played!
@prophoem94923 ай бұрын
I appreciate the detail of you having three different outfits lol. Great video!
@kelpietales45033 ай бұрын
I remember when this book was announced and so many people going on how clever and amazing this idea was from Geoff Johns...only all I could think about was how "There are actually multiple Jokers thus explaining his change in motives and how dark or silly is changed" was a theory already floating around some parts of fandom for awhile. Johns often seemed in tune with fandom so so didn't surprise me much. Hell, even Batman: The Brave and The Bold Alfried fanfic future episode went there including the type of "recruitment" methods in Three Jokers.
@darren.mcauliffe3 ай бұрын
Well done on having the three personas be so seamless in the audio.
@chubbyblackboi3 ай бұрын
Sahsa Wood, Thank you for the three Sasha's thing you did in this one, very cool style.
@SteveRudzinski3 ай бұрын
I really liked the idea of there being Three Jokers but was bummed out that two died as soon as they were introduced. If we dealt with three of them for years, I would have liked it way more.
@MrAlman83 ай бұрын
I like the idea of there being 3 Jokers, each one with a particular but subtle theme. There are so many ways it can be utilized, such as a legacy character with 3 generations of Jokers. Insight & context involving his back story being all over the place, plus sharing personas & such to confuse & come off as 1 Joker. Its that versatile.
@samslash93 ай бұрын
This is the best idea so far if you mist do a 3 jokers story. It's all one guy but different alters. It ruins the mystery of Joker, but that was long gone by this point. It's a fine solution.
@djpegao3 ай бұрын
Like the deep dive, and how Sasha low-key flexed her powers to alter her style to fit the narrative. Editing must have been crazy hard!
@truespartan10003 ай бұрын
Was so confused about what was going on in the outro until you showed all three outfits together 😂
@michaelzack79353 ай бұрын
This has been your best review to date! Very stylized and thoughtful! Thank you for making this.
@jackbirdman74913 ай бұрын
your batman voice is TOP tier
@warlock12uk3 ай бұрын
I LOVE the three Sasha you've got going on in this, but I have to admit that seeing you without glasses kinda freaked me out. I just wasn't prepared for it.
@kevinhamilton56183 ай бұрын
Had to be hell to edit. Good stuff as always
@ric_gama3 ай бұрын
first time viewer here! i got the recommendation from a random tweet about (actually) good non toxic comic channels and here we are! loved the video, i'll make sure to check the channel often
@Mayhem.jester3 ай бұрын
Your video is perfection gorgeous make-up, pretty wigs and excellent editing a true master piece
@BlackLaval3 ай бұрын
Amazing vid! Your assessment of the story was 100% on point and those wigs were the best. Amazing.
@Justine-jp4fq3 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video. I loved the swaps. You're one of the best lowkey KZbinrs around. You deserve a bigger following ❤
@Arizona-ex5yt3 ай бұрын
Even DC doesn't know at thispoint.
@jordanloux38833 ай бұрын
Three Jokers feel like DC saw how much Zoomers were into overly complicated lore videos and wanted to capitalize on it.
@River.w3 ай бұрын
The use of the different hair and outfits is clever, makes me laugh, I applaud you effort and respect the work (I can't paint my nails black without messing it up)
@frankiemiller53643 ай бұрын
Three different looks, awesome! But your Batman voice, pure perfection 😂😂
@TheSapphirewave3 ай бұрын
My main issue with the 3 Joker thing is that DC didn't take the chance to bring the jester Joker from The Batman into cannon.
@kemmdog44443 ай бұрын
This video must’ve been a heck of a time for you to edit,but the end product is definitely worth it.
@jjberuland22783 ай бұрын
Your Batman voice never gets old LOL
@msmith20333 ай бұрын
Thanks for sum that up for me did not read DC during thisera appreciate all the hard work you put in the video. Very nice.
@parkermacinnis39773 ай бұрын
I want to see a story where the Alfreds of the multiverse have to team up to save the day.
@ryanjohnson14413 ай бұрын
The topic for this video was great but the outfit, wig, and makeup changes were an awesome idea! Thanks for the incredibly entertaining video.
@oreotaku40173 ай бұрын
I honestly love the idea of Joker having 3 or even more multiple personalities. A criminal, gangster, prankster, clown, killer, demon, he can fit anything he needs to for any story.