What Happened to The Edgar Winter Group?

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@baritony8763 9 ай бұрын

Despite Edgar's scattered instrumental talents and associations it was Dan Hartman who caught my ear. Free Ride, Autumn,Round & Round,Instant Replay and I Can Dream About You..."They Only Come Out At Night" is in my top 25 albums list.Other than the radio smashes the rest of the album is a mix of feels, multi-talents and styles.And it sounds really great!

@grabasandwich 9 ай бұрын

Only in recent years did I learn how successful Dan was outside of his solo hit "I can dream about you"

@KB-ke3fi 9 ай бұрын

Yeah and only the Winter brothers had the talent to pull it off. Nobody else could.

@timskelton2325 9 ай бұрын

They Only Come Out At Night has been one of my favorites since the first time that I heard it. My 2 favorites from the album are Just Hanging Around and Undercover Man.

@rmiller334 9 ай бұрын

Not hard to catch a tin ear I suppose.

@rickfletcher4907 9 ай бұрын

Everybody that played in The Edgar Winter Group were great musicians. Dan Hartman brought great vocals and some great songs to the band. He later went on to write and produce a lot of Dance music and more Pop oriented music.

@robiandolo 14 күн бұрын

I've seen Edgar 2x and Derringer 2x both at the theater in the round in Westbury (constantly changing names)! All shows were spectacular. I really would've liked to see White Trash from the Live at the Apollo era and also the Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer.

@davidtyler3116 9 ай бұрын

Great video! I saw Edgar in the seventies with Rick Derringer and they were fantastic! I also met Ronnie Montrose after he played. What a talented and nice man. He treated me like a fellow musician. They were all part of a great era!

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Cool!

@PJ-jz5fm Ай бұрын

They Only Come Out at Night was the first album I bought at the age of 15 in the UK, I literally wore it out, then bought the cassette version and wore that out too. I managed to see Edgar and Johnny at separate times in Houston. Terrific musicians.

@BirdTalk13 9 күн бұрын

I always bought the albums and cassettes. The cassettes were for my car.

@dellcoats4648 9 ай бұрын

Edgar is a mad scientist

@guppybill 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for not being an AI narrator! Nice work, human.

@jimf710 9 ай бұрын

We seen Edgar on a Rock Legends Cruise a couple of years ago. We met briefly for a photo op and it was a nice experience. His shows were great.

@izitsomojo 5 ай бұрын

Dan Hartman was my all time rock hero when younger, equal to Rick. I noticed that his penned songs just stood out with brilliance. I want his "white album" released before i die! I'm now 68yrs and still praying for it.

@philipmorris4843 9 ай бұрын

Loved the Shock Treatment album. Great overlooked album

@toshiojohnston3732 9 ай бұрын

My late older brother got me into this group just love someone take my heart away.

@stylesb959 9 ай бұрын

This was very informative . Edgar winter white trashes road work album is the best live album ever . What a spectacular band

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@richardcorwin1828 2 ай бұрын

I was fortunate to catch Edgar and Johnny in concert at the Richmond Coliseum after Frankenstein was released. The opener was Don McLean and he started singing and was immediately booed off stage and he yelled into the mic the he was "Never coming back to Richmond". The Winter Brothers did not disappoint and gave a real tight show. Great music from that era.

@jahnbon 9 ай бұрын

Added detail: Blue Sky records was owned by Steve Paul, one-time owner of the Scene Club in NYC, later manager of Johnny, Edgar, and many other acts. The label issued two great albums by Muddy Waters, one by Howlin' Wolf, two by David Johansen, and a few other nice choices. Great video. Thanks!

@bigtone1348 9 ай бұрын

Chuck Ruff and I were in contact by email until his sad demise. A lovely guy.

@KevinDick-h6f 9 ай бұрын

You certainly gave a nice bio of the many people Edgar Winter collaborated with . Edgar Winter's talent is among the finest of the music entertainment industry . I believe at one time I thought to seeing him playing saxophone in Wayne Newton's band ?

@winstonsizemore2385 9 ай бұрын

Check out Edgar's sax solo on Todd rundgren's LP initiation. On the song fair warning. One of the best sax solos you'll hear anywhere and for that matter one of the best songs you'll ever hear❤

@Richard-vu7kh 9 ай бұрын

Playboy magazine voted him best jazz saxophonist many years back. I heard his group in Vancouver BC sometime around 1971, Ronny Montrose was guitarist at that time - awesome concert including Eagles and Yes.

@kd8199 6 ай бұрын

His sax solo on Tobacco Road with his brother Johnny is 🔥 too.

@imtheonevanhalen1557 9 ай бұрын

Rick Derringer's first fame came with the group "The McCoys" and the hit Hang on Sloopy'. Check out "Johnny Winter And" live for some awesome guitar work from Rick.

@neilouellette3004 9 ай бұрын

Saw The Edgar Winter Group at the Memorial Day Jam 1980 Lebanon Valley Speedway, New York. The Outlaws and Molly Hatchet also played. Great concert.

@dennisc6716 6 ай бұрын

Was hoping to see Jerry Weems mentioned. He's the guy who played with them on Frankenstein on the Midnight Special clip you can find on KZbin. According to an interview with Chuck, Jerry was AWOL from the Army National Guard the entire time he was on tour. The army caught up with him at an airport one day while the group was on tour and threw him in solitary. No one from the band knew where he was for two weeks.

@BCTGuitarPlayer 9 ай бұрын

Almost all of this is a revelation to me! Much past Frankenstein he fell off (my) radar. 🤷‍♂️ I learned a lot, here! Thanks;)

@fredjohnson7945 9 ай бұрын

I saw them live twice. Tremendous show both times.

@howardmaryon 9 ай бұрын

Saw EWG on UK television “Old Grey Whistle Test” playing a set that finished with “Frankenstein”. The performance was pure energy, with the whole band seeming to enjoy their first exposure on British TV. Bob Harris, the show’s presenter, who would usually talk after the band finished, was almost speechless, his only comment “amazing”. Praise indeed.

@kevinclapton7835 9 ай бұрын

i seen him a few times..early 70s and 90s at a small vemue in richmond va

@ChrissHill-im7kj 9 ай бұрын

My friend was a photographer who took pictures of music giants before he came to work at Corning/ world kitchen. He knew the Winter brothers and his friend played drums for them.

@mybachhertzbaud3074 8 күн бұрын

First concert I attended in my youth. Truly great! 🎶🎸🎶🎹🎶Play On

@whathappenedtothem_ 8 күн бұрын

You must have had an amazing time!

@peterforrest6682 9 ай бұрын

Edgar played the sax solo on Tina Turner's Simply the Best...

@BufordLomax 5 ай бұрын

Edgar Winter is a musical savant!

@riffsleytrickfinger7359 6 ай бұрын

Bobby Rimarez was the drummer in Edgar Winter’s white Trash, he was murdered outside a night club in Chicago in 1972, a tragic loss, he was of Mexican decent but so were his two attackers, apparently they took offence to his long hair. Bobby joined the band LaCroix with fellow ex-white trash musician, singer Jerry LaCroix, check out the album LaCroix it has that same White Trash vibe.

@brendahhstiles9992 3 ай бұрын

Met him long ago, he was a nice, sweet guy.

@marktaylor2502 Ай бұрын

White Trash folded due to the death of drummer Bobby Ramirez who was beaten to death outside of a Chicago nightclub. It had nothing to do with the Roadwork tour simply ending. White Trash made one final album RECYCLED after the Edgar Winter Group folded.

@davidspinney2023 7 ай бұрын

One of my all-time favorite albums. I had the privilege of seeing there show a couple of times seeing them play Frankenstein live was fantastic to bad they never released a live album from those days some of the songs the Edgar Winter Group would play at the shows were White Trash songs

@moogy77 9 ай бұрын

I'll never forget my mother taking me to Madison Garden in 1973 to see the Edgar Winter group during his time doing FRANKENSTEIN !! I also remember seeing Johnny Winter around the sane time at the Garden doing the Still Alive and Well tour!! I remember going to see Edgar in 1973 at the Shafer Music festival in Central Park and J. Giles was sitting in for Ronnine Montrose that night!!

@bobbymarks2259 9 ай бұрын

White Trash took on the elements of the Gulf Coast roadhouse sound, gritty soul and blues dance music. All the musicians were veterans of the Golden Triangle area, and their music defined the '60's & early '70's in coastal Texas and Louisiana. The "White Trash" studio album, featuring Jerry LaCroix's growling, heavily gospel influenced vocals, was a classic in its genre and an all-time great album. There is a cameo by Johnny in "I've Got News for You", and by Rick Derringer in "Keep Playing that Rock and Roll."

@LauraCarrasco-ps3zd 3 ай бұрын

In resume all off them just keep on rockin ❤, thats what an artist must do try to give all he has till the end...

@KB-ke3fi 9 ай бұрын

RIP Johnny....you were the best.

@davidg.9890 9 ай бұрын

Ya got it wrong about Edgar a Child Prodigy, his mother was a pianist who taught him how to play the keyboard. His brother Johnny helped him to get a contract with Epic Records in New York. His hit song Keep Playing That Rock and Roll lyrics explains on his album They Only Come Out At Night along with his classic hits Frankenstein and Free Ride. In 1975 they're last album as a group was The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer recorded on Blue sky Records, with slumping sales of that album and Jasmine Night dream's it was then when the band broke up, it was a mutual agreement everyone wanted to pursue other projects, but their last live concert was in San Diego, Ca titled Edgar and Johnny Winter Live in the year of 1976.

@scottwhite2757 9 ай бұрын

Winter brothers were talented musicians ..

@jessepruit8385 9 ай бұрын

I just saw Edger with Ringo this year. Back in the early 70's I was dating a girl. She had ticket to see some group called Montros. We went out parking and sparking instead. We got back to town my friends are going on about how great they were. Oh and they had some singer name Sammy Hagar!

@dylanakent 9 ай бұрын

I played the grooves put of They Only Come Out At Night. AMAZING!

@surveyordave 8 ай бұрын

he hardly ever plays any of the tunes on this album. he takes up half of his show doing "tobacco road". it's a real shame when he has so many other good song from TOCOAN and shock treatment.

@daveamici2719 9 ай бұрын

My two all-time favorite Edgar Winter tunes Frankenstein and save the Planet. Which one of the bands I played with in the 70's covered.

@douglasrock9414 8 ай бұрын

Edgar got a grammy for 'Brother Johnny'. Big fact to mention. First grammy awards I've watched in 40 years and ONLY Edgars grammy acceptance speech.

@kevinwilson426 5 ай бұрын

Good video, but an incomplete history of the group. No mention of JERRY WEEMS at all. Even though you show him in the video more than once.He replaced Ronnie Montrose. He went on tour and performed in the concerts supporting the album. Got busted at the airport for being AWOL. He performed on the Midnight Special shortly after being released from jail for being AWOL, that's why his hair is so short on the video. He also wrote the guitar solo for FREE RIDE, even though he wasnt in the group at the time.one of their biggest hits. He was a childhood freind of drummer Chuck Ruff.After leaving the EWG he played on Ian Hunters album, and was in Bonaroo. An excellent guitarist and singer he needs to be included, mentioned, and remembered. Please update and include him, check him out in the videos, usually wears white pants, plays white Gibson. Often mistaken for Ronnie Montrose Please include him, thanks.

@sadielampduo3762 9 ай бұрын

I went to see Edgar Winter perform at The Midnight Cowboy in Waco TX. 20ish yrs ago and when I lived in Hollywood CA I stopped in Green Hell Record Store and found a Frankenstein 12 inch Single and Edgar had words to the song Frankenstein, and in Waco , I asked him to sing the words to Frankenstein and he did ,, fantastic . Last time I saw Johnny was at the Hollywood Palace across from Capital Records . Montrose was my friend

@thomasjimenez5479 8 ай бұрын

A few years back I was at a guitar show in Fort Worth, Tx and as I was in the men's room and while taking a leak I turned to my right momentarily and to my shock Rick Derringer was taking a leak in the urinal next to me 🤣 Of course I waited for him outside the men's room to get a pic with him

@familydogg1234 9 ай бұрын

OMG the same narrator from Trower. One time I saw a tv appearance of EWG in 74/75 and a different guitarist was playing. I found out it was Jerry Weems. I saw EWG Shock Treatment tour. Even had the record store display ( like the cover)

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

you really sold Dan Hartman short just saying he worked with 'other artists'. Those 'other artists' included Stevie Wonder, James Brown, David Johansson, Chaka Khan, Diana Ross, Little Richard and many more prominent artists. Give credit where credit is due.

@vermontbred 9 ай бұрын

had his own hit, "I can dream about you."

@jazzpunk 9 ай бұрын

@@vermontbred ...and a Disco-era hit, "Instant Replay". I remember seeing Hartman on SOUL TRAIN, too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKnJdXmFp5isi6c

@vermontbred 9 ай бұрын

I think Vinnie Vincent plays guitar on Instant Replay, later of Kiss fame for about ten minutes. @@jazzpunk

@jazzpunk 9 ай бұрын

@@vermontbred Wow. You never should underestimate any musician, right?

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

true but even that wasn't as big as "Living In America" the song he gave James Brown. If he had hung around he would have been one of the biggest producers ever.@@vermontbred

@lpwienert7358 5 ай бұрын

That was a great lineup...they interchanged instruments all night.

@genearbogast7525 4 ай бұрын

Good Content Sir! My first concert Edgar Winter Miami Metrozoo 1984 I think?

@whathappenedtothem_ 4 ай бұрын

Very cool!

@banjammy4116 9 ай бұрын

Saw Edgar very good, wish l could have seen Johnny, from what l hear Janis was from there , l heard Johnny and Janis dated in High School .

@Debcatawba Ай бұрын

I saw Edgar Winter a couple years ago. He was in Ringo’s AllStar Band. I also saw Edgar Winter a fee years before that as he was the opening act for Eric Burdon.

@trtlgrdl 9 ай бұрын

His album was called the Progressive Blues Experiment!! not experience..

@richardperusse4299 9 ай бұрын

for me a die-hard fan of Edgar Winter group it was not the same after the blue album ( 1975) , it was not the ''group'' anymore , no Derringer, Hartman and Ruff ....it was less rock and the songwriting was so/so at times even the music style was changed at times ....anyway, Derringer was gone to make his solo career....

@nattiedraws 9 ай бұрын

That time he did that solo album years later for that cult leader of scientology

@tresjordan982 9 ай бұрын

How about “ what happened to White Trash ?” The funkiest bar band evah !!

@pellmj1 9 ай бұрын

I saw the edgar winter group in the gym at S.U.N.Y. Delhi , New York before " they only come out at night" appeared. They were a quintet. Dan hartman and ronnie montrose on guitars. Randy hobbs on bass. The power went out at one point. I was standing directly below dan hartman and he said: " we can play acoustically for you. ". As his hand raked across the strings of his white stratocaster.

@edgardtorres6162 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting video 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

@pennywells9824 4 ай бұрын

I love watching young people when they find out what real music sounded like. My kids grew up with my music because the 90 just changed to crap. I had a restaurant in the 90s three 2007. They would come down in the evening and help me clean. They got hooked on Boston The who Def Leopard, Led Zeppelin, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac, Aerosmith, Journey, Bad Company and a lot more. Even now there is still nothing better

@1956tojo 9 ай бұрын

Good job on this.... Thanx.

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@diggersouth 9 ай бұрын

Chuck has a friend from Las Vegas that played guitar for a short time in the EWG. More info on him?

@kevinwilson426 5 ай бұрын

That's JERRY WEEMS ! Great guitarist and singer ! Also played on Ian Hunters album, and in Bonaroo. Thanks for remembering him.

@robwalsh9843 8 ай бұрын

I envy Edgar's talents.

@dellcoats4648 9 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@jazzpunk 9 ай бұрын

My 1st-ever concert: The Edgar Winter Group with Rick Derringer. Most of THEY ONLY COME AT AT NIGHT + some White Trash ("Tobacco Road", "Keep Playing That Rock and Roll") and Rick Derringer solo material ("Rock 'n' Roll, Hootchie Coo", "Teenage Love Affair"). Right up front of Derringer and his Explorer. Hartman, at times, sported a doubleneck bass/guitar (used on "Free Ride").

@leomannpictures 9 ай бұрын

Wow, that's a stellar line up. Much better than my first live show. (Commander Cody)lol.

@jazzpunk 9 ай бұрын

@@leomannpictures Commander Cody is cool!

@russross9681 9 ай бұрын

Edgar still tours!

@latexsolarbeef4990 2 ай бұрын

....bear in mind with Edgar that his wonderful drummer in White Trash Bobby Ramirez was murdered on tour by a greaseball in a Chicago bar who didn't like his long hair...he was jumped outside and beaten by three loser turds who I believe got away with it.....RIP Bobby Ramirez.............

@richardtaylor8595 9 ай бұрын

i SAW HIM OPEN FOR ALICE COOPPER AND DEEP PURPLE A FEW YEARS AGO AND IN MY OPINION HE STLOED THE SHOW.

@theitineranthistorian2024 4 ай бұрын

Rick Derringer had early success with the Mccoys, Johnny winter's "and" studio and live records. Rick refered to himself as the mickey rooney of rock, quite a sense of humor. rock and roll hoochie coo with Johnny Winter's and was a huge hit sang by Johnny, covered many times, giving Rick freedom to start his own label with musicians he worked with ala frank zappa. I've watched 3 year olds rocking to " great balls of fire", the And live record. I saw edgar with dan hartman doing Frankenstein, a big hit. Hartman could play. Johnny got great guitar players. Ringo's all star band could cover several videos. Edgar was working with L. Ron doing music for his 10 volume sci fi epic in the 80's. he became a christian after scientology was the rumor. Edgar is an interesting human along with Johnny. He probably plays guitar.

@DerpRulesAll 9 ай бұрын

I'm going to put this on pause; gotta do my laundry.

@kellyheine5751 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting video!

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Glad you think so!

@jazzpunk 9 ай бұрын

6:27 Too bad you didn't show the entire picture of Dan Hartman's "Space Bass"...it is literally connected to his body. Hartman's body is the body of the bass. ;-)

@scociolopath 9 ай бұрын

Edgar is extremely talented in a number of musical styles, but I've always felt that he would spread himself too thin. Had he picked a more specific musical style (Like Johnny did with the blues) instead of dabbling with this and that he would have probably had more success in the long run.

@jeffking4176 9 ай бұрын

I guess it all depends on the definition of “success “. 📻🙂

@scociolopath 9 ай бұрын

This is true. If he's happy with what he has done that should be success enough. I was merely talking about it from a business success/popularity angle. @@jeffking4176

@alanmatthew5713 4 ай бұрын

NIce! Surprised you didn't mention that Ronnie Montrose played the scorching solo on "Magic Man" by Heart.

@whathappenedtothem_ 4 ай бұрын

Good call!

@richsmith9063 3 ай бұрын

That is an outright LIE. That solo was played by Roger Fisher

@alanmatthew5713 3 ай бұрын

@@richsmith9063 not a lie by me but by what I always read and heard. Thanks for the correction.

@JosephThum-z4y 9 ай бұрын

Chuck Ruff, local Reno Boy!!

@Dr.Thirteen 9 ай бұрын

you didn't mention Rick's other band the McCoys and hang on sloopy

@Johnnycdrums 7 ай бұрын

They also skipped over the fact that Rick Derringer was a member of "Johnny Winter And." Or that Bobby Ramirez (drums) for Edgar Winter And The White Trash was stabbed dead outside of a gig after arguing with some guy about his long hair.

@petekinne2702 9 ай бұрын

Really good group bio. Thank you.

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

Thank you too!

@jimp711 5 ай бұрын

What is with that whisper?

@garyyates5297 9 ай бұрын

Sorry but the narrator's voice drags on like a bad experience, can't get through it all..

@stuartbayens4495 9 ай бұрын

The narrator's voice binds us all together. Treat it as something to behold. If not him, who else? Don Lafontaine?

@RodCalidge 9 ай бұрын

I think it was the Texas Blues Experiment, not "experience".

@walterfrancis6896 5 ай бұрын

2:43 Where did The Edgar Winter Group located in? I need answers now!

@kirbysmith2546 9 ай бұрын

What happened to Black Oak Arkansas

@whathappenedtothem_ 9 ай бұрын

What Happened to Black Oak Arkansas? kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2e0eaVpm62kftE

@TyroneEpps 9 ай бұрын

This band is hot😊😊😊😊

@ThomasSmethers Күн бұрын

GREAT!!!

@dougwatt6303 9 ай бұрын

Please pay attention to your soundtrack. Dates & titles are often incorrect. Do it right or don’t do it.

@stuartbayens4495 9 ай бұрын

Don't mess with artistic license. This poor man is just doing the best he can.

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

:Shock Treatment" is one of the best albums I've ever heard, spirited and diverse. But I was very disappointed with the third album, it was flat and uninspired.

@anthonymcdibble9496 9 ай бұрын

It was terrible.

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

the only song I really liked was "J.A.P. (just another punk)".@@anthonymcdibble9496

@Fender73472 9 ай бұрын

Did Edgar learn how to read music?

@jonasirw1 9 ай бұрын

Transparent humans matter

@tomandaj1 9 ай бұрын

Here’s what happened… they broke up.

@bluebird925 9 ай бұрын

Well done!!!

@bruceeipperle2770 9 ай бұрын

Free Bride? Right

@MrMojabo 9 ай бұрын

nothing Edgar still has a group.

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

I was really surprised Edgar played on some of Dan's disco records, Edgar didn't seem to be the disco type.

@rickfletcher4907 9 ай бұрын

@@TooSkinnyKennyfriends do that for each other. Besides, A paid gig is a paid gig.

@TooSkinnyKenny 9 ай бұрын

very true. And to prove that a paid gig is a paid gig, Edgar also sang in an animated cartoon. If I recall, the cartoon was part of the "Happily Ever After" series or something similar.@@rickfletcher4907

@billiondollarbaby3276 9 ай бұрын

RIVER'S RISIN was a TOP 40 Hit off of Shock Treatment. The Album also went GOLD. I have the RIAA Gold Record presented to the Record Plant. Love when people dont get their facts straight.