What Happened to the Warhammer Fantasy Races? Age of Sigmar Introduction Series Part 1

[@GreatestEverGuy]

Please upvote so others find their favorite faction easier! :) Beastmen - 00:00 Brentonnia - 6:38 Chaos Dwarves - 13:11 Daemons of Chaos - 14:22 Dark Elves - 17:06 Dwarves - 20:49 Empire - 25:57 Deepkin - 27:46 Lizardmen - 29:24 Ogre Kingdoms - 30:04 Greenskins - 32:42 Skaven - 36:39 Tomb Kings - 37:36 Vampire Counts - 40:10 Warriors Of Chaos - 41:38 Wood Elves - 44:01

[@cultofmalgus1310]

thanks!

[@PartisanGerm]

Beastmen are at 1:30, actually.

[@Wavyso]

High elves where

[@Azoth86730]

You've missed one important detail about the Skaven in Age of Sigmar. The Horned Rat has become the Great Horned Rat as he has ascended to the position of the fifth major Chaos God.

[@younan5011]

He was always referred to as the the great horned rat even befor the end times

[@jarrodreaves243]

Skaven.... They don't exist

[@charlesfisher-kh5sw]

it was much deserved, the skaven carried chaos in the end times

[@OGdutch973]

The Kharadron Overlords are dwarves who survived the Age of Chaos by using the equipment they created to mine and collect pockets of ur-gold in the atmosphere.

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

We remember eight peaks!!

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

Poor Gobla!

[@slaaneshshewhothirst9136]

On a note of a few months/years later. If you want some high elves the Lumineth Realm-Lords are kind of their successors. They are led by Teclis. And for the vampire counts, the Soulblight Gravelords are very likely to be of your interest

[@0815UserII]

You forgot to mention something about Seraphon/Skaven: The Lizardmen f***ed up the Skaven so bad (probably during the End Times, or maybe it was Sotek afterwards) that the mere sight of Seraphon can apparently trigger PTSD flashbacks to Lustria in Skaven. I may be in the minority on this, but as someone that started with Tomb Kings, back in the day, I just don't see the similarities to the Bonereapers. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but I don't really see more than superficial similarities.

[@Aliencommander1245]

Aphotep It wasn’t necessarily any one event, I don’t think (although it might’ve been the mass killings of Skaven by the red host that ended up bringing sotek into the world) but their combined history of slaughter. In the story that comes from there’s a single skaven that’s watching a battle between seraphon and his clan that’s so much of a brutal, violent stomp that he just starts screeching and wailing in fear, as the memories of lustria (a place few of the currently existing skaven have never been, or even know existed) came flooding into his mind

[@darkranger116]

Seraphon are one of the few who accomplished something badass as the world fell apart AND they reformed and maintained their factions cohesion in the aftermath. As well as ascending to daemon hood over the powers of order and justice. Like, fucking badass. All of their characters. Top tier faction.

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

Hm... it says nothing of the like in skaven lore... so I'm not sure they are actually scarred.

[@MrMViceroy]

@@gregoryhouse5240 I played the original Undead army too and still have my Undead rulebook, and I loved the TK's when they came out. I jumped right on board. I'm actually stripping and rebuilding my TK army at the moment.

[@thil2894]

maybe it's just me… but those ossiarch guys look like necrons mixed with tyranids.

[@GecktronLP]

Just to add to Chaos Dwarfs, they did in fact appear in the story "Scourge of Fate" as smiths selling weapons to the variouse chaos hordes camping around the Varanspire.

[@ianbailey4213]

There's also dwarves in the Iron Golems war band.

[@onionhat745]

GW has been flirting with the idea of reintroducing CD as a non-FW faction, especially with the new Hobgrotz.

[@discoskull]

I actually love the aesthetics for a lot of these new factions. Sylvaneth, Deepkin, and Ossiarch Bonereapers are absolutely awesome, but I cannot wait to see what they do with the Seraphon. Considering the quality of the other new designs/ sculpts, similarly updated not-Lizardmen might actually make me get into the game (or at least buy a couple models to paint). Hopefully one day the lore will be more appealing to me.

[@Exodurge]

Thanks a lot for making this video Sotek! I made the dive into AoS after an initial period of hesitation (since Tomb Kings got discontinued as a model line) but I haven't regretted it at all! It really grew on me, and now I can really appreciate AoS' drive to be its own thing. Not going to look forward to this comment section though. But I suppose that is to be expected. Can't wait to see your next video in this series!

[@PartisanGerm]

Definitely some credit card debt to be had on eBay!

[@LcUlric]

Hate to correct you Sotek but a lot of Empire, Dwarves, and High Elves didn't make it into Free Cities. Dark Elves are pretty much the only line that came over in its entirety the rest got cut pretty hard.

[@Draxynnic]

Empire and Dwarfs didn't do too bad compared to what they had in Grand Alliance: Order. They've both lost a couple of things since, but the majority of what they had in Grand Alliance: Order is still there. High Elves got gutted, though. The only High Elf sets still available are the Phoenix kit, the Phoenix Guard kit, and the Shadow Warriors/Sisters dual kit.

[@LcUlric]

@@Draxynnic well dwarves lost all there artillery and ranged stuff. But yeah I forgot how bad High Elves came off

[@d4rks1p3]

@@LcUlric thats going in the book umgi

[@darrenlaker3204]

Hate the age of sigmar. Destroying an entire world just to sell new lines of miniatures .

[@poshboy4749]

@@darrenlaker3204 What do you think they're business model is? You do realise the entire universe only exist to sell miniature lines?

[@remaining5101]

"You're a wizard KOLEK" :'D

[@Draxynnic]

One thing that jumped out at me: You mention Dragon Princes in particular as being part of the Free Cities book, but this does not seem to be the case. Around the time the book was announced, pretty much everything High Elf except the Phoenix Temple got discontinued. (The exceptions are Sisters of Avelorn, now called Sisters of the Watch, which are now in the Wanderers sub-faction due to their link with Alarielle, and Shadow Warriors, probably because they're in a dual kit with the Sisters.) This suggests to me that the discontinued units will not be in Free Cities, particularly since most of these subfactions have, AFAIK, not been mentioned in any of the stories. The optimistic viewpoint is that it's going to turn out that the Order Draconis, Lion Rangers, Eldritch Council, and so on have been absorbed into Tyrion's crusade and they'll get re-released with new models when his turn does come around. The cynical and, I have to say, probably more likely possibility is that the Stormcast mugged them in an alley and stole their stuff (for instance, the Order Draconis and the Stormcast Extremis Chamber are both noble dragon-themed cavalry forces supported by actual dragons) and GW squatted them because they were seen as being redundant.

[@WlLDEHlLDE]

Concerning Seraphon: I would absolutely get into those now, with the GhB2019 they got a massive rule update and are actually very competitive atm.

[@dreadclown9977]

Good video, just can't get really inspired to play AoS with the nebulous lore(I think GW forgot why people like Warhammer) and the wonky naming, it comes off less as trying to protect their IP and sounds more like discount versions of classic fantasy races that I have no desire to try and pronounce or search for. I want orc(k)s not a grande tall frapachino.

[@Honkin_Chonker]

I agree on the naming, its pretty bad. However, there is some interesting factions. I've been playing deepkin recently. If GW would redo the sigmarines, and stop with the edgy naming AoS could be alright.

[@krimson4980]

I was not a fan of the new names, Aelf -_- ...come on. BUT, I was a fantasy player, Orcs and Goblins and Bretonnia....when the world blew up I wasn't going to play AOS, and then the Nighthaunt came out. When they make up their own stuff...it's really good and the game is actually fun. except for double turns, that's trash.

[@MrMViceroy]

The lore is really bad. I've been learning it by reading the army books and binging videos, and the more I learn the more I realise that it's really badly written. It's the kind of thing that I wouldn't be especially proud of if I wrote it. It's just a bunch of jumbled up nonsense with bad names that doesn't know what it wants it's tone or aesthetic to be

[@OiMitch]

@@krimson4980 O&G and the Bretts are my two fav races too

[@joaqumswag5128]

Matt B you mean like 90% of fantasy outside of novels?

[@117green11]

basically if you had the bad bad guys your fine, if you had good bad guys you have to get the free cites book, then feel sad when you see half the stuff you cared about isn't in there.

[@funoff3207]

I think the issue was when they did global events, choas players were so shit it was a whitewash. So make more or less every faction chaos

[@fightme4793]

I understand the love for fantasy; nostalgia on the one hand for those of us who played tabletop, and a longing for what could have been by those introduced via TW. I, myself, was a staunch dwarf player on table top, along with both TW1 and TW2 even though they’ve had a turbulent balancing life. I think AoS as a tabletop game is fun, the lore is a little vapid at the moment but I can see it development for better or worse. I’m open to AoS.

[@kimarous]

I more or less see AoS 1st Edition much like Rogue Trader for 40k - a rough foundation for what later editions will refine. First edition Age of Sigmar is VERY rough, no denying that, though 2nd Edition has improved a lot, including but not limited to: 1) actual lore, 2) actual maps, and 3) actual rules. As someone who got into AoS just before 2nd Edition launched, I'm frankly fascinated to see how the setting and story progresses and glad that I got over my initial "hate on principle because the internet told me to" outlook on the setting.

[@Ellolo17]

+listens to the description of Ionep Deepkind Me: "Oh, so they are thematically the dark eldars of this game"

[@mortisoculi8943]

Sort of, but only if deldar were eldar who were tortured by slaanesh and then had their souls recovered

[@InquisitorThomas]

Yes and No, I think they're a pretty good blend of Eldar and Dark Eldar, they have to do shitty things to survive, but generally they have certain codes of conduct like not stealing souls from children and attempting to use magic to put their victim to sleep before taking their soul so it's at least a peaceful death.

[@eugeniodn]

I find it hard to get into AOS because the games I've seen remind me a lot of 40K. Model count is lower vs what 40K has ballooned into but there are a lot of similarities in the big picture. It actually reminds me a bit of when Hordes first came out for Warmachine, more fantasy vs Sci-fi ascetic, some twists for the rules, but quite similar. At this rate I would not be shocked if they combined the universes 2-3 editions down the line, like the way Hordes and Warmachine were compatible. I'm personally more interested in the lore than the game. Thanks for making these vids, though personally I'll stick to 8th and 9th Age for games, as it's something further from 40K than AOS.

[@jj_see_film]

If 40k and aos combined I'd bloody leave, i stopped colecting 40k for a reason

[@luclin92]

funny you should say that because from what i have seen AOS is apparently heavily favored towards horde armies at the moment. since they wont be easily sniped like smaller units or heroes. i remember the miniwargaming channel talked about that as the games major issue at the moment

[@alexanderdoddy7590]

Yep, Seraphon book is soooo behind all the other codexes... definitely getting a big update soon!

[@docterzero1503]

90% naked ladies!? Now that is my faction!

[@namechanged1]

It's been...

[@TanitEB]

@@namechanged1 One week since you looked at me . . .

[@jrg7777]

Frankly, that was the part of the Dark Elves I was building toward anyway. I only have square bases though, and I don't feel like sitting down for hours, plucking each model off their square base and putting them on new round bases I'd have to buy. Also, Cities of Sigmar pretty much makes all my old empire stuff valid to play again. But all square bases...

[@docterzero1503]

@@jrg7777 Well as far as I understood, rebasing is optional if you do not plan to do any official stuff

[@jrg7777]

@@docterzero1503 I thought as of 2nd edition, everything is measured from the edge of a round base rather than the model, so you kinda need round bases. At least, from what I heard, I haven't exactly looked too deeply.

[@joshuaturnquist5538]

Middling normal Orcs now are the standard Black Orcs/Ardboyz. Their backstory is they are normal Orcs who forge fancy army to mimic their large ogre-like cousins. Also There is a joke about Seraphon, where their book is so out of date that you don’t even use it for rules. They have gone through so many FAQs, rewrites, and points changes that to play them you are mostly working off General’s Handbooks, their FAQ, and online Datasheets.

[@MrNetWraith]

The Thunderscorn beastmen subfaction gets cooler if you remember that, way back in the days of Realms of Chaos, you could actually play a Dragon Ogre Chaos Champion in your games of Path to Glory - they had the unique ability to generate followers from both the Beastman Champion retinue table and the Minotaur Champion retinue table, so they could be followed by either literal herds of beastmen, or they could lead a force made up of some of the biggest monsters of the edition, or try to walk a balance between the two.

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

I love Warhammer for the wonderful opportunity to create my armies, my dudes and paint them as I want. Only 40k and Age of Sigmar created specifically for this. That your precious fb and HH is a pseudo-historical settings, absolutely closed. And "lore" is always just a background for miniatures and stories. There has never been more.

[@starship399]

Thank you for writing back to me a couple days back really appreciated i will have to get you on twitter if i haven't ... having a shit time atm but yet your video has made life alot better. I just lay down for bed and get this playing and i find it super relaxing, calming and lets me learn more about warhammer. Can't go wrong i hope you are doing good my friend keep up the amazing work

[@BIGDADLORD]

Most of the criticism I see online regarding AoS boils down to just ranting about the “evil SJW’s.” I’m sure the transition to AoS was handled poorly but being 20 minutes into the video, a lot of the lore and new flavor seems cool. Dwarves with monsters.... yeah I can get down with that

[@andrewpotter7514]

I don't know, what is cool for one person could be trash to another person. If I was trying to be kind I would say that GW are trying to target a younger audience by throwing out "cool" stuff and seeing what sticks without worrying too much about the lore. Obviously lore is not a static thing so I can get better (or worse) over time, but that is the same excuse I made years ago. I think the telling thing for me is that in recent years there have been plentiful Warhammer fantasy video games that have really fuelled interest in Warhammer. These however are pretty much all based on the old world, I have yet to see anything big for AoS.

[@benvoliox7631]

The hate seemed to me more to be about the crappy apocalypse lore-I agree with you though-it does look cool-I think this company is comprised of people who need to create and love doing it and couldn't stop themselves from doing something new-and it I think the results look super fleshed out. If they really wanted to appeal to a younger market they'd ditch the books and complex rules-they could just do what their pale imitation ...that Chinese company...(what was it called again?).... did and crank out easy to learn video games and MMORPGs with the lore they already have.

[@triggerbot3284]

Eh . . . end times as a whole messed with a lot of people. I'm not gonna be getting into AoS most of the time but I will say a lot of the lore is very cool.

[@Multifire]

The sigmarines and marine orcs just completely shatter the entire aesthetic for me. Its still really hard for me to take it seriously and I really want to.

[@SteveExH]

Yeah 100% the same.

[@mogwaiman6048]

2nd edition is awesome right now. My only complaint is that I think activations need to be streamlined for smoother gameplay.

[@travismt0349]

As someone who is just now getting into Warhammer (I was introduced to it via TW Warhammer), I’m pretty sad to hear that Fantasy as we know it is over, I’ve been reading and watching a bunch of lore vids and was hoping that Nippon, Cathay, or Ind might be fleshed out someday. Still, I really like the aesthetics of AoS and I’m really interested to see where they go with this.

[@isabelh5561]

Travis Tomison Tbh even if Fantasy had gone on until 10th edition I seriously doubt that Nippon, Albion, Amazons, Araby,... would have been expanded on any way since GW decided they weren’t worthwhile over a decade ago. The only one that stood even a vague chance of fleshing out imo was Cathay and even then I only say that because they appeared for a few pages in the Tamurkhan book.

[@emilhult3394]

People gotta stop pretending nippon/cathay/albion/ind/etc were ever going to be a thing. No one gave a fuck about these places when Fantasy was well alive and only now do people pretend to care because it's over. No one ever talked or even was aware those were places in WHFB lore when the game was alive. Absolutely pretentious.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

I wonder if Cathay and Nippon will be in The World of Light along with Brettonia. :) P.S. I once read an interesting fanfiction that crosses Age of Sigmar with Overlord in which The New World that Ainz was transported to was actually a safe haven created by the Gods of The World That Was that Sigmar believed had been destroyed in the End Times. It is rediscovered by complete accident and Nagash sends Arkhan as an ambassador who meets Shalltear who becomes offended at the thought of Nazarick becoming a vassal. A huge battle breaks out ending with Arkhan held hostage at the cost of Shalltear. Ainz realises how small he is in a universe of Gods and Demi-gods, then Sigmar sends an envoy and Nagash sends Mannfred to rescue Arkhan! XD

[@bobskywalker2707]

I'm surprised to the Loremaster's reaction to these guys

[@mogwaiman6048]

He plays AoS dude. You can enjoy WHFB and AoS.

[@bobskywalker2707]

@@mogwaiman6048 Oh I am too, I just didn't expect the lore master to be.

[@rhyderrek6155]

I nearly pissed myself laughing when you said “dwelf” instead of dwarf. Then I thought: “what else would a half-dwarf half-elf be called but a ‘dwelf!’”

[@lukewind13]

Thanks for making this! I abseloutley *Despise* age of sigmar purely out of spite for it replacing fantasy, But this is still interesting and facisnating to learn.

[@mogwaiman6048]

Just hop on the 2nd edition train already and enjoy the game.

[@CJan65]

@@mogwaiman6048 the grudge has yet to be settled

[@2Infinit2]

Agreed. I'll be fucked if they're getting my money. If I wanted to play 40k. I'd play 40k.. not fantasy 40k. Imagine the boom fantasy would have gotten if they coincided 9th edition with total war warhammer 1. Just cause they were shit at make fantasy work doesnt meant it couldn't have worked without this bastardization of it

[@HootMaRoot]

I for one am glad for aos as building an army of decent size from scratch would cost anything from £1000 > almost no limit. After leaving the hobby 15 years ago and wanting to start again before aos was released I looked into it and thought no chance, but now with smaller armies I took the jump and am liking it

[@chene-aurelgaudreau1072]

AoS may not have best lore or mechanics, but it’s got some of the most colourful, unique, and exciting factions I’ve ever seen in a fantasy setting. It’s brimming with potential and I really hope it can grow into something iconic, rather the malformed child that killed warhammer fantasy during childbirth.

[@Alesayr]

A huge chunk of the high elves have been retired though. Sigcity just has the Phoenix themed parts of the elf army and shadow warriors and Sisters of Avelorn. The rest of the army has been cut. That said you could probably "counts as" the rest of the high elf models as other sigcity models

[@InquisitorThomas]

True, which probably means they're working on a new High Elf Faction with some updates of the old models, so we're probably going to see those armies again when they decide to make the Realms of Light and Shadow a focus.

[@painof7]

I've come to really loving your lore based content, thank you so much for making it

[@greenghost2008]

The game has changed so much since this video came out. The game progresses fast.

[@greenghost2008]

@@kobe4212 for one legions of Nagash have been replaces by the soul blight gravelords. There is also a new Death army that is heavy skele guys. There is a third edition of the game now. You can now combine all the demon armies if your general is Belakor. It is a Legion of the first Prince army.

[@luclin92]

now idoneth deepkin has possibly one of my favorite models just because its just a guy that takes notes of the souls they have collected and gets help for his octopus, and that guy is adorable with its small ink pot and weapons

[@coldshoulder8550]

A tiny bit of misinformation about gotrek. Gotrek can be take in ANY order faction not just disposesed or fyrslayers. So stomcast eternals, seraphon, free city's, daughters of Kain, ect, ect. So if you want gotrek in your faction you must play any order faction. Also you should extend a hand to 2+tough. 2+tough in case you don't know is prety much THE AOS lore channel at the moment and he is a super friendly and nice guy.

[@nate742]

Im surprised Loremaster of Sotek hasn't reached out to him about chatting about aos lore.

[@BigbossShoshka]

Sick! AoS gets dogged on, but I think it's starting to show some good stuff with the latest edition. Can't wait to see more.

[@HootMaRoot]

Exactly if you look how fantasy changed between 1st edition and 8th edition and the first few years of fantasy was just a mess from what I was told by the couple of people I knew that played it

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@HootMaRoot 1st edition was just a rule book. GW didn't even make models back then.

[@mogwaiman6048]

It only gets criticized by a vocal minority. It's the 2nd most popular tabletop game behind 40k.

[@HootMaRoot]

@@mogwaiman6048 but we aren't talking about the models didn't see them mentioned anywhere in this thread

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@HootMaRoot yeah i know. I'm saying that's how first edition was. It wasn't a mess, gw wasn't making models yet and they just printed game manuals via white dwarf.

[@kaischwarz6590]

Not a fan of the space marorks.

[@Multifire]

Glad I am not the only one.

[@triratna1397]

primeork.

[@derrickhaggard]

I literally hated the Aelven factions from Fantasy. But I love the Daughters of Khaine from AoS.

[@MrzimmerX]

Great video as always sotek! Been waiting for a video like this for awhile now!

[@zacharysain8516]

This vid made me like aos lore, thanks sotek

[@Grimaldus7]

Awesome.

[@Ebb0Productions]

You made me check my sound output for FOUR SECONDS you lovable person.

[@leopoldjenkins]

This is a really useful and really entertaining video. Greatly enjoyed this. Can't wait for the others

[@hernandogaribaldi8627]

Holy molly! Ossiarchs looks like GW invited Giger and Beksinski to create a spooky faction.

[@L0511_]

You said that Gotrek will turn into the God of fire. But don't the Chaos Dwarfs worship Hashut, the God of fire?

[@isabelh5561]

Pedro Divertido Perhaps it’s like how there were different interpretations of the Sea god back in Fantasy, with noble sailors generally favouring Manann/Mathlann while pirates worshipped Stromfels?

[@L0511_]

@@isabelh5561 so Grimnir is the good Dwarfs' Hashut? OK. Makes sense

[@L0511_]

@@stormxlr2377 don't open that can of beans

[@stormxlr2377]

@@L0511_ you are right. I deleted the comment.

[@L0511_]

@@stormxlr2377 don't need to do that, you didn't offend me. But politics on the internet are just straight up Cancer

[@ArnoVdVelde]

If you want tomb kings there really isn't anything that come close. The Bonereapers and presented as their replacement, which kind of confirms the tomb kings are gone.

[@funoff3207]

Because they've based everything off this shitty 'souls' everyone wants souls. TK wouldn't and don't fit

[@PartisanGerm]

@@funoff3207 I guess we'll see what happens with the Old World. I wouldn't be too surprised if they did a limited made-to-order run on release for all the OOP lines, just to milk absolutely every single old neckbeard they can. It's farfetched, but considering what GW has done and is doing again these days....

[@voxkine9385]

Lorewise, AoS started in a rough place. It went from a world full of decades of lore with recognized places and people full of countless stories to an almost new IP level of lore. AoS got 💩 on at the start, and rightly so imo (how they ended the old lore was a disgrace), but since it has been able to flesh itself out and find its’ own footing, AoS has become a really cool new world to explore in the Warhammer universe. A lot of cool new ideas that I honestly don’t think they could have made in the old world have been made, seeing the new idoneth and ghoul “crazy-brettonian” were really great changes!

[@mogwaiman6048]

I agree, WHFB ran it's course, but now it's time to enjoy the sequel.

[@Crytica.]

OKAY I NEEEEEED THOSE STEAMPUNK DWARVES!

[@OmegaIdiot]

Slayers use monsters ? Thats going to my Book of Gruges!

[@nate742]

Nikodem Chamielec So you would dishonor the memory of Grimnir and his battle with the Godbeast Vulcatrix??!!

[@mogwaiman6048]

They use them because Grimnir killed Vulcatrix which was a matriarch of Magmadroths. The Magmadroth became sacred to the Fyreslayers after that.

[@OmegaIdiot]

monster is not trustfull! i spit on You AoS notDawi

[@OmegaIdiot]

but Thx for explaining

[@nate742]

@@OmegaIdiot You should listen to the Realmslayer audiobook. I have a feeling you'll enjoy it.

[@Alexandoas]

The lore is honestly decent, and the armies in age of sigmar are also pretty cool.

[@alexsitaras6508]

not a fan of the space marines look for the humans though

[@GroundedAndHigh]

@@alexsitaras6508 but their not humans? there is an actual human army

[@Lakefront_Khan]

@@GroundedAndHigh Well your name certainly fits.

[@Haunterthe1st]

Electronic Corgi pretty sure that’s a reference to wow, when you kill Nefarian.

[@GroundedAndHigh]

@@Haunterthe1st yes, yes it is.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

A recent announcement did get released y’all,... GW is going to rebirth classic Warhammer Fantasy...but probably not this year...but it’s officially announced.

[@bennconner1195]

With the new dawn bringer crusades coming there is a good chance we should get some new crusading knights and other regular mortal Human models. Regular mortal Humans is something that AOS is still mostly lacking which is a shame because they are probably one of the most relatable races.

[@MrMViceroy]

Monsters. In a dwarf slayer army. Monsters. (long weary sigh)...

[@jacekekawa4498]

Not to mention, 123456 flavours of nekkid dorf with a mohawk. Great concept for a unit, not varied enough for an army.

[@Xkhaosxzeus]

Their actually are real compressed air rifles firing lethal cartiges

[@Destyvirago]

Indeed, such rifles where actually used in was in the 18th century and where adopted by some armies. Compared to traditional muskets of the time they had better rate of fire and none of the smoke, so they were basically superior. A unit with Air rifles could decimate pretty much any traditionally armed opponent on a one on one fight due to the much higher rate of fire. The downside was that the air rifle was very expensive and needed a lot of maintenance, so you had to train the soldiers that where to use the weapon extensively as repairs on the battlefield was all but impossible. In a way it was to firearms of the area as the King Tiger was to tanks of WW2. Very good at what it was supposed to do when used correctly but never enough of them and they cost too much to maintain. You can read about one of these rifles on Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

[@hughgedney3393]

Great get to know the factions in AOS video Loremaster of Stotek.

[@Rekkless]

11:53 - Try making that pose, Damn that guys necks is on another level.

[@TheIndigoEclipse]

"Zon-gorz" What? Not how you say Tzaangors.

[@andrewhenderson9616]

Yay I'm super hyped about this topic.

[@dd11111]

Watching this 3 years later and can confirm, brettonia never came. What do you know! The French inspired faction never turned up on the battlefeild! (But for real, it's sad that they never returned, and the french get a bad rap for cowardace.)

[@mobisev]

Oh...I thought this was going to be a lore video about what happened from the end times to the very beginning of the age of Sigmar, not a brief army intro video. Not what I was expecting reading the title alone

[@mobisev]

And how each of the races got started, etc.

[@Earadon]

Occiarch Bonereapers have effectively replaced Tomb Kings, sad but hey, at least we got a replacement, and a badass looking one at that. ¬､¬

[@PartisanGerm]

Sorta -spiritual- bone successors, but the rules, aesthetic, and lore are *wayyy* off.

[@Earadon]

@@PartisanGerm That's fair, man I miss the tomb kings...at least bonereapers help to scratch the undead itch~

[@Gamma5232]

I really liked the aesthetic of the greenskinz. Bummed they aren't included in the new orks warclans

[@thelifeandtimesofjames4273]

Thanks for making this video. It was VERY well made. Overall I am gutted by all this. It doesn’t look like fantasy any more. Way too much gold and just silly to change the names of things. They must realise it is a mistake to change the names of the races. I get they wanted a revamp but I have seen nothing from this version to compel me to get into it. So many humans now look like space marines. How could they not see it?

[@TanitEB]

Thanks for the video Sotek! You actually make the lore sound interesting, I went into a Games Workshop and the employee there not only couldn't make the new lore sound good, he wasn't even aware of the old lore of Warhammer, let alone how to transition someone into the new who loved the old. When I asked about the transition from 'old lore', he thought I meant first edition Age of Sigmar, which was not that long ago. When he realized he had no idea what I was talking about he just shut up and went to another area of the store even though I was the only customer. It was super awkward . . . I was also really put off by a backhanded insult in September's White Dwarf in the article about Gotrek Gurnisson where they imply that anyone who doesn't like what Games Workshop has done with the lore can shove it, because even Gotrek Gurnisson is willing to having a beer with an Orruk (Ugh, dislike the poorly contrived copyright names, some are good like Sylvaneth, but others like Orruk and Ogor are just painful), and appreciate how awesome the 'mortal realms' are, which I thought was a silly way to put it, because he is a fictional character, of course he will like whatever the author wants him to like.

[@TanitEB]

Also, following up on the copyright names, one thing I don't get, is that they already had copyrightable names for many things. Dawi=Dwarfs, Asur=High Elves, Asrai=Wood Elves, Druchii=Dark Elves, Dawi Zharr=Chaos Dwarfs. So . . . why did they have to change it to Duardin for Dwarfs and Aelfs (that one makes me cringe) for Elves. The pre-existing names were perfectly serviceable, recognizable by fans, and, especially for the Aelf one, better sounding. And if they wanted to make goblin into Grot like it is in 40k, why not make Orcs into Orks like in 40k? And Warhammer fantasy already had Gnoblar for diminutive greenskins, which I have not seen anywhere else, so why not use it for all goblinoids in fantasy in order to set fantasy apart from 40K? Even from a monetary standpoint it doesn't make sense to me, as they would most likely have had a copyright claim on Asur, Gnoblar and Dawi already, so why spend the extra money on adding Duardin and Aelf to the copyright? (someone else must have claimed that one already I would have thought, its so obvious, actually, I am reasonably confident I once read a poorly known fantasy book that called them that. I remember very little about it, except that one main character only had one arm and could still juggle.) Also, a quick google search reveals that Aelf is an Old English word for Elf, descending from the Proto-Germanic Albiz, Old High German Alb and Old Norse Alfr. Soooo . . .it really shouldn't be copyrightable at all right?

[@lucaspenades]

You're welcome. Also, awesome video, thanks! 00:00 Intro 01:25 Beastmen 06:33 Bretonnia 13:08 Chaos Dwarves 14:19 D(a)emons of Chaos 17:02 Darks Elves 20:47 Dwarves 25:57 Empire 27:25 High Elves 29:21 Lizardmen I came here for Lizardmen, so I stopped watching it at that point. Also: "What happened to the Warhammer Fantasy Races? AoS Introduction", Lizardmen answer: "BUY SERAPHON BUT DON'T BUY THE BOOK OKAY NEXT"

[@bitesizedhero8030]

Do you think total war will use the AoS models for the chaos armies and the ogres? I hope they do.

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

I think they'll just use the fantasy ones for the warriors and ogers but use age for the demons since there just more of them especially for slaanesh who'd have a tiny roster without them

[@cp1cupcake]

There are a TON of old models which are basically useless now. Empire knights never made it into Freeguild. Dwarf warriors, handgunners, quarrelers, and Empire archers (and huntsmen) just got axed in the new book. Same with most of artillery from the former Elf/Dwarf/Empires.

[@mogwaiman6048]

You can proxy most of the models that went out of production. For example, take dwarf thunderers and use them as handgunners.

[@mrTirwit]

Great video! And you saved me from buying the old Seraphon book. Subscribed! I would've liked a bit more about the lizardmen though

[@pavelsebesta7931]

Right now, they are just memories. TLDR only real lizardmen are Slanns, who came into AoS on space ships from the old world, and all the other dinos are materialized by their magic from their memory. But it's gonna get changed/retconned/developed (developed i think most probly).....

[@Aliencommander1245]

Pavel Šebesta A short story about them came out last year that revealed that lizardmen are still spawned from the spawning pools that’re inside their ships. The slann still remember heroes and armies into existence (there’s one who’s skink priest is returned to life every time he falls in battle, always with a slightly different pattern as the slann remembers it differently) but new lizardmen are still spawned and die as living creatures too

[@l.warner3951]

Image the Kharadron Overlords being the Squats from 40k.

[@YOUROXJACK]

I play Warhammer 6th edition and AOS 2. Both games are great. Lets all agree that the aos roll out and AOS before points was hot shit.

[@lewys9204]

Also, in cardiff warhammer shop.. for instance theres a decent amount of people into both games

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

The flying dwarves are like the Ferengi from Star Trek...except they can fight back with skill and tech!!

[@Gulaschiltis]

no specific mentioning of the Dawi, but of the Dawi Zar??? This goes directly into the book of grudges...

[@emilclausen1931]

man I really miss fantasy, AoS sucks Loremaster: FREE CITIES!!

[@mogwaiman6048]

2nd edition is awesome.

[@nissefika85]

AOS dont sucks a leasat not v.2. But maybe not better then FW or maybe better.

[@Matt-kd8xx]

Age of Shitmar SUCKS !!! Just a fact

[@mogwaiman6048]

@@Matt-kd8xx your opinion. It is the 2nd most popular wargame in the industry though.

[@emilclausen1931]

@@Matt-kd8xx have you ever even looked at the lore, or did you just listen to those butthurt people who hate it becourse

[@oportorat6127]

will they bring back the old chaos characters (Crom, Wulfrik, Egil, Harald and Engrimm) for the slaves to darkness?

[@tiredgardener]

Or just use your WFB models in Kings of War. Edit, the Treekin models were wonderful. Really sad to see them go.

[@MrMViceroy]

Or the Ninth Age, which has some fantastic rules. It's basically the most balanced version of WFB so far, since none of the rules are created around the desire to manipulate the players into buying specific things.

[@AnthonyConstable]

Excellent video. Thank you!

[@orben-amos6172]

dragon ogre are lords now age of sigmar jest made my fev cheracters more fun

[@valentinward3657]

Bring back Warhammer Fantasy! Bring back the Old World!

[@OST1350]

It's sad that they turned this into a mess like 40k.

[@excessiveone9952]

They won't, you can still play it but it's best to just let it rest

[@valentinward3657]

@Excessive one We don't know if GW ever brings Warhammer Fantasy back. Might take years, even decades but never say never.

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

I like the old lore but my local warhammer store only sells AOS models.

[@iacobnicolae4530]

Sigmar pilled

[@theDackjanielz]

Thank you for generally doing this video, im a big fan of AOS and fantasy so i support it all the ways! I would also like to add to this comment that chaos dwarves have been mentioned numerous times in the lore and there are even some direct hints in one of the white dwarves that "one day" we may see a Fyreslayers vs Chaos dwarf box set that may include a female Fyrequeen leading the charge. I for one cannot wait and hope so!

[@kuglefang]

Its a real slap to Hellebron's face that Morathi now essentially took her job.

[@nate742]

Fritzkrieg I mean, that’s really not anything new, considering how Morathi treated her

[@danielolsson7134]

Morathi always was the true leader of the Cult of Pleasure.

[@TanitEB]

@Daniel Olsson Exactly! She was the leader of the Cult of Pleasure, not the Cult of Khaine. She was always connected to either Slaanesh or Atharti, not Khaine. The Sword of Khaine even whispered to Aenerian, her husband, that he should kill her. I think this is an example of choosing Morathi to lead the Cult of Khaine because she is a better known and more marketable character.

[@TheVergoner]

@Fritzkrieg I guess that would be true if not the fact that whole Cult of Khaine is based on Morathi's lie and to way to make herself as goddess.

[@WarBahamutX]

the lizard men became the old ones that created the races in the 40k universe.

[@michaelpeila8794]

Subbed! Hope you get 30k soon!

[@Alph024]

did games workshop completely delete the poisoned wind mortar or can I just not find it anywhere

[@alexradford5446]

i plan to start playing fyreslayers, the vostarg lodge to be exact. mostly because i want to get a gotrek model!

[@alecideas]

Glad I didn’t buy the book. Was assuming that GW would include older WS. Thanks for the info.

[@parbuono7]

Orcs have gain what is basically a Big Fuck Barroth from Monster Hunter

[@ckhawk00]

When are you going to finish your Belegar Ironhammer let’s play?

[@LostintheMists]

My only problem with this video is how you compared tomb kings to the ossiarc bonereapers. If you have read anything they are not the same they have some aesthetics that are similar but ossiarch bone reapers look more eastern That and no right minded tomb king would ever follow nagash for "We do not serve, We rule!"

[@PartisanGerm]

Right on mummy brethren!

[@ilumi421]

And the giant space marines who are they?

[@GreatestEverGuy]

Stormcast Eternals

[@funoff3207]

A waste of money

[@InquisitorThomas]

Those are the Stormcast Eternal, they don't really have a counterpart in Warhammer Fantasy, basically they're people that have died heroically and were basically snatch up by Sigmar upon their death to become his immortal army, yes they look a lot like Space Marines and that kinda sucks because I think the Stormcast actually have some interesting Lore and quirks that make them more interesting than Space Marines, but they tend to get salty reactions because of their derivative design. The best pitch I can give you is that they're an army of Dark Souls character, they were former mortals that died and became immortal being, but with each death a bit of their old self dies until they inevitably become an automaton with all their memories and personalities wiped, and that terrifies them.

[@ianbailey4213]

@@InquisitorThomas Honestly they aren't even really that similar to space marines. Their design comes more from greco gladiators/ roman wolf pelts, or crusader tabards.

[@cultofmalgus1310]

New to this stuff. Not to sure where to begin. But I loved Lokhir's model. Is his model still around?

[@davedogge2280]

they're getting a new battletome early 2020 the seraphon

[@bamblaster5865]

hmm my interest in warhammer fantasy is 100% from TWWH game. i didnt know about the end times up till some months ago while i probably woudnt care much about AoS if there is no game on it but its nice to hear roughly what happened to the races

[@miniaturemontage9183]

Sotek, Warherd are slow, Brayherd are fast (run and charge, bray shamans give plus 3 movement).