Do or Don't: Warhammer The Old World

[@pancreasnowork9939]

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[@solwilkinson8551]

great vid like rilly rilly good but god dam do i do not like adds and just skip all of them

[@tomarmadiyer2698]

Thank you Helix for giving us this wonderful content! Pancreasnowork is one of my favorite KZbinrs, yaaaay!

[@dreamcatcherben8214]

There was a race one the world before the old ones that you didn't mention, the Fimir. They are pretty obscure but i feal that if they are important enough to have there faction be modded into TWWH3 then its worth mentioning (also one unmodded one that come with tumarkhan's horde in thrones of decay, but thats not really too important). Edit: also snakemen of kuresh where basicly lizardmen who rebeled and got a almost chaos god like hashut and the great horned rat. However this is properly nitpicking.

[@DeranRoute-vu5jy]

Vlad Von Carstein lore video when?

[@johnd2058]

The Prometheus comparison was worth watching this episode already. Hey, is that thing flippable to adjust firmness?

[@jormananormanu]

PancreasNoWork : Nagash is great! Settra's Model : So... You have chosen poorly glued death.

[@elmosco7297]

Was looking to see who would say it 😂

[@jessematthews6861]

because settra, does not serve

[@mr.god.complex]

Oh mighty, Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds, and many, many more...

[@joshuasepeda3289]

Are you sure you got all of his titles? You don't want to know what Settra did to the last guy who didn't get them correct. 😢😢😢

[@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976]

SWEET MERCIFUL CHRIST

[@mr.god.complex]

@@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976bro settra is THAT guy

[@dingo8845]

Is there a place that has all of his titles? If there is then I would like to see how long it is.

[@carlzerris6566]

I read that in less than 2 hours so im pretty sure he missed some

[@Never_heart]

Even during a demon apocalypse Lord Kroak just did his thing. Deciding dying was cringe and returning to shove miniature suns down the throats of demons as easily as popping skittles into his frog mouth

[@YamaDrahma]

Probably while popping skittles into his frog mouth

[@jazzy4830]

The hard part is making sure the skittles don't fall out all the holes.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

"Remember Troops: Dying is Gay" -Lord Kroak

[@TheKsalad]

Kroak didn't even need necromancy to stay alive, another middle finger to nagash

[@feral_orc]

he probably should have tried a little harder if that shit was so easy, what a failure

[@clairestark9024]

"One wrong, put right." -thorgrim grudgebearer

[@rellek4053]

But the great book of grudges remains full.

[@drontesmakor1983]

But the great book of grudges remains full.

[@grayrobber]

@@drontesmakor1983 hey you copied him! That’s going in the book

[@sztypettto]

@@grayrobber Bring in the Ale! The great book of grudges is never full. Time to right the wrong!

[@RetingerDux]

So much Bretonnia art in this video. This must be your favourite faction...

[@arnauddelaclos3221]

this will be THE Good guys faction in old world

[@NkenKenY]

@@arnauddelaclos3221 there are no good guys in the old world

[@tdlainc.4737]

@@NkenKenY They are now, The changed the Bretonnian lore because the original lore was "Problematic" and doesn't fit with modern day beliefs....

[@coaiemandushman1079]

@@tdlainc.4737 nigga what? Now they revere the peasants and there are no conscripts and no corruption or something?

[@NkenKenY]

@@tdlainc.4737 no they not lmao no one is a good guy lmao

[@jonathanathor117]

Man pancreasnowork. You are truly the warhammer fantasy. The ghal maraz

[@teamhren1000]

"But wanted to do that with Charlemagne and Legolas." Pancreas UNDERSTANDS me.

[@sephsticles1016]

The biggest pro of Warhammer Fantasy is that the Emperor actually has a Warhammer

[@fafikommander1903]

As much as I love the Sword of the Anathema, it would have been so easy to give the Emperor a Warhammer. Even on the Tabletop, the warhammers become less and less prevalent, replaced by Chainswords, Axes and Powerfists. This makes me sad, because my profile pic shows how to do a warhammer+powerarmour right...

[@the_protectorof_smols3563]

@@fafikommander1903 kinda wish they had like a gravity hammer equivalent

[@AnUtterSimpleton]

​@@the_protectorof_smols3563 isn't that just the thunder hammer?

[@the_protectorof_smols3563]

@@AnUtterSimpleton do they have a gravity thingy t the that thunder hammer?

[@AnUtterSimpleton]

@@the_protectorof_smols3563 I mean it's a force weapon so if your question is "can I wack traitors into the stratosphere like the messiest game of golf?" then the answer is yes, absolutely.

[@the_Kutonarch]

"I just can't seem to be able to glue Settra's model together!" _Such is the power of Nagash!_

[@HurBenny]

The release of the old world had me refresh the paint of my Bretonnians (the superior army as you know), and invest €100 in base adapters and materials to make glorious new movement trays. And I hadn’t even procured the books yet.

[@tektof5649]

GW going back to Old World like EA going back to Steam. "Where did that bring you? Back to me."

[@diamondhamster4320]

No. They just calculated that their profits will increase by X% if they publish on more platforms. That is about it. There is nothing special about it cause it is just rational capitalistic logic. (Talking about EA/Activision et cetera and Steam)

[@samfire3067]

I didin't waste my money when i bought the command and conquer colection. It just a dammed curse that i need to have command and conquer 4🤮🤮🤮🤮 on the colection🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@mogwaiman6048]

Not really, it's a specialist studio game with less overhead costs.

[@brennanfaucher947]

AoS is the mainline fantasy game. TOW is a retro product that gave me an Oldhammer project to collect, and a local grognard a reason to sell parts of his 40 year old collection to me.

[@garethholman1050]

​@@brennanfaucher947hopefully that'll be the other way around. Time will tell, however if that does happen I absolutely do not want GW to do to the AoS players that which they did unto me. I see no reason why we all can't play the way we like.

[@DeranRoute-vu5jy]

With Warhammer fantasy revived will we ever get a video on Vlad Von Carstein?

[@Hadthese]

Not if the counts stay unavailable 🫠

[@DeranRoute-vu5jy]

@@Hadthese Just you wait pancreas will release a do or don’t video for vampire counts in TWW3 and follow it up with lore video on Vlad in fantasy….any day now.

[@johnkelleh9448]

YES!

[@sirunklydunk8861]

Hey Beastmen fans, look! It's your new game system (I am so fucking sorry)

[@valeclaw1697]

Games Workshop decided the hatred between AoS and Fantasy was vital or something and wanted to make sure it'd still be here even when both exist.

[@barty1995]

Hoping we get a new version of BoC in future, like with High Elves > Lumineth

[@dylanjoyce8104]

​@@barty1995I think a beastmen army that are a destruction army

[@MrEdge6677]

It worked, I fucking hate everything about this. From having my faction squatted to the cavalcade of snobby old world players being dicks about it. Not to say it’s all TOW players, but there has been a lot of it.

[@Howesterino]

​@@MrEdge6677That genuinely sucks bro. I hope one day that Beastmen return in some form in AoS.

[@goblin-kunch8bitdragon36]

As someone who missed the days of Fantasy but fell in love with the Tomb Kings lore, the release of The Old World fills my cold, mummified heart with joy.

[@DadBodFit]

Fantasy back in the day is absolutely peak Warhammer. I was there it was great.. 5-6th ed were the best

[@Shrouded_reaper]

The rulebooks are still out there. Just get some people together and play. The hand of GW doesn't rule you.

[@harveybridgeman6895]

You probably know this already but the only other bit of Araby lore that I can think back to is that one of their sultans at one point was named 'Jaffar', who summoned genies to maintain his power. Also, apart from being where Clan Eshin was trained and where Grimgor wrecked the 'Dragon-Fleets' or whatever, Nippon is also known for having characters called 'Sanyo Kawasaki' who wields a sword called 'Toyota ', and his dear friends 'Nissan' and, I shit you not, 'Honda Suzuki'. And that's not even mentioning the 'Pygmies' Jesus Christ!

[@jhonnoilcringeincarnato8593]

You forgot the legendary nippon warrior *Mitsubishi (materials)*

[@milliondollarmistake]

a toyota sword sounds badass

[@persepolis4836]

All of those Nippon names are real Japanese names except for Nissan. Them being car companies is funny but Honda and Suzuki are not uncommon names in Japan. Toyota is named after the founding Toyota.

[@Noname-e9k7k]

Bruh, do you have any idea how amazing an Araby built around a literal Sultan Jaffar would be? That shit would be harder to get than the ps5 on launch day.

[@Mbeluba]

I love the goofy leftovers from 80s and 90s warhammer!

[@chronovac]

I think one unaccounted for lore con for the Old World is that is it SO jam packed with stuff, there is little room for making something new. "Oh you want to create your own homebrew force within the Empire? Sorry, that small plot of land is actually occupied by Sir Shittenfarten, Twelth of his name." Now since it is a prequel this is less of an issue than the old fantasy setting, but it's still far harder to insert your custom force or custom campaigns in such a small (comparatively) world that already has a lot of lore.

[@joshwenn989]

It's a _little_ bit easier with things like the Bretonnian Exiles list, and with the standard Bretonnian colour schemes now trending towards 'single royal and his household', but it's still pretty awkward to find space.

[@jakub_paints6775]

As opposed to - horray ! you won a battle in Aqshy. What ? You want to know where on the map ? Oh about here in the generic valley number 394. Such fun.

[@chronovac]

@@jakub_paints6775 Now this may be personal preference, but part of the fun of coming up with fun armies, characters and campaigns is _making_ generic valley number 394 within Aqshy mean something. You could say the same thing about the random planets in 40k which are only important because of the battles that took place there. Regardless, it may be a con worth mentioning if you like homebrewing

[@lunadelurin868]

Actually, there was plenty of space for new stuff. One just had to move out of Not Europe as solid chuck of World was still left relatively untouched.

[@viktordickinson7844]

Just make up a new island or something.

[@lindor6393]

"Have to go thru thousands of drunk winged hussars" it's not only an accurate description of Kislev, but also a decent part of Polish history.

[@soft_er0030]

Some Cossacks dudes: Oi mate! How ‘bout we go to kick some enemies ass and then each other asses Seriously. By that part ukrainians and poles looks like scot’s and british

[@lindor6393]

@soft_er0030 It scares me how right you are

[@soft_er0030]

@@lindor6393 welp, cuz I’m ukrainian, so I get the thing ;)

[@lindor6393]

@soft_er0030 well I'm Polish, so I get it too

[@TheAlterspark]

"If you play Bretonnia I think less of you" What's that? I can't hear you all the way up here on my flying griffon. :)

[@RK-cj4oc]

No, but you can hear me after you freefall 200 meters down into the ground after i shot your flying murder pony.Having functional longe range weapons being haram sure does not help you.

[@joshuasepeda3289]

It's great to see another Warhammer fan with good taste. 😊😊

[@olafgurke4699]

@@RK-cj4oc "Helblaster regiment." "Yes sir?" "Do you see that flying clown up there?" "Yes sir." "I do not wish to." "Understood sir." *Entire line of guns and artillery light up to swat flying knights out of the sky*

[@n0n4me77]

@@olafgurke4699 Then the things fuckin' explode

[@alessandromattioli8937]

22:58 The sleeper was one of those things that, when I read, felt that every attempt to imagine it would require a trip to a mental hospital

[@jamesoldham9995]

I just looked up what The Sleeper was and found a description of it. "Nope" is all I have to say about that thing.

[@12SickOne34]

Allow me to offer a cheaper alternative: hallucinogenic mooshrooms Not that I would recommend it in a moral or legal context, but it would be an option. I've heard.

[@ChadtronicFan]

I find the sleeper kind of funny because absolutely nothing else I've heard of in any WHF media or even gotrek and felix comes close to the giant psychic chaos (?) bug mind controlling most of a hold and a bunch of greenskins.

[@kevinb871]

The acknowledgment of the sleeper in the gotrek and Felix book made me so happy. I have always wondered what that horrifying thing actually was

[@ce4879]

Lore-wise, one of the ancient creatures of the world before the Old Ones moved the planet and got rid of anything that didn’t gel with their plans. Meta-wise, the writer said it was inspired by an old sci-Fi horror novel he loved.

[@generalgrizzly7914]

Yeah I always wondered wtf that thing was omg I was legit terrified reading the last third of that book. My own headcannon was that it was a genestealer but once it tapped into Felix's head and he got those visions that killed my headcanon. Honestly it was a very unique enemy for the duo to fight especially what it does to them. Up there with greater demons, vampire lords, Gods and a rat with lots of patience and a set skills honed over decades of backstabbing.

[@yuntes2211]

"Who is the lady of the lake?" *Laughs in elvish*

[@PhilipJFry-qh2jg]

Needs to be rec'conned

[@TDMHeyzeus]

Orcslayer was my first Black Library Novel. 'Fall in sons of Karak Hirin, there's sad work to be done' still gives me chills.

[@Myst109]

you specifically pointed out that its DWARFS not DWARVES and then proceeded to use dwarves repeatedly less than a minute later simply amazing

[@andrewmeyer3599]

That's goin in the Book

[@pancreasnowork9939]

I no word good

[@Caseyuptobat]

Bro, one "forever patient" to another, I fucking feel you on that not built for fightin' an winnin' bit.

[@ratatoskr9366]

8:00 the dwarfs still mastered the winds of magic. Instead of channeling it through people (which is highly volatile and dangerous), dwarfs bounds the winds of magic in the form of runes. This mastery led to creating of protective wards that could dispel magic within an entire city or fortify city walls to enchanting powerful armors and mighty weapons, including one of the most powerful weapons of the Old World... Ghal Maraz aka Skullsplitter aka THE Warhammer.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

Get skavened

[@explore7891]

HAIL THE MIGHTY! WITH TATTERED SAILS AND INCREDIBLE TALES! LUTHOR HARKON SHALL BE REBORN AND BRING ALL HIS GUNS AND SONGS TO OLD WORLD AGAIN!

[@timothyh5632]

YAR HAR ME BLOODSUCKIN' BUCANNEERS! FIRE THE CANNONS AND RAISE THE DEAD! WE SAIL FOR BLOOD AND RUM!!!

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

(He doesn’t exist yet and doesn’t seem to be coming for a LOOONNNGGG TIME)

[@explore7891]

@@Unknown-qj9sm >:[

[@Unknown-qj9sm]

@@explore7891 It makes me sad to, I really want to play him. Vampire Coast on launch would have made me into Phillip J fry throwing money at the screen.

[@gumball6445]

​@@Unknown-qj9smSame

[@nathanstruble2177]

I appreciate you correctly calling it "The War of Vengeance" and not "The War of the Beard". If the Dwarfs get *anything* for winning that war, it's naming rights.

[@barleysixseventwo6665]

How to assemble metal models: Step 1: Acquire Drill Step 2: Acquire Pins Step 3: Learn what a Dowel Joint is and love it because that is your life if you want this model to stick together.

[@Emanon...]

Or just a bit of metal wire if you have the proper drill bits. Even micro magnets if you want to switch up weapons and go full WYSIWYG.

[@Shrouded_reaper]

How to assemble WHFB .stls 1. Find file 2. Click auto support 3. Click print DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE

[@LazzarrusLong]

24:13 A dwarf with a rocket launcher is a simultaneously hilarious and very concerning concept. 🚀🏃‍➡️

[@lachlanbold8319]

I’m suprised that they brought the Old World out with the neutral faction (Tomb Kings) fighting the only faction more evil than Chaos: the French.

[@krankarvolund7771]

The TOmb Kings are now considered an evil faction they're not neutral anymore ^^

[@lachlanbold8319]

@@krankarvolund7771 No.

[@olafgurke4699]

Which, to be fair, the french have declared more than one errantry war to smite the undead. Probably because they didn't get permission to walk into Sylvania to smite the undead there.

[@smtmonke]

"You're also not a Tyrannid... I hope." *nervous chittering noises*

[@battiger00568]

oh cool a new video "sees length" well there goes my evening

[@taiho5233]

pfft not even an hour. lol

[@battiger00568]

@@taiho5233 alchol

[@ragnabob]

"He died! He just decided that wasn't important and just kept on truckin' " had me in stitches!!! Great vid as always!

[@Arbiterjim]

You didn't do Lord Kroak justice lol, but God it's good to see Fantasy again

[@MiaogisTeas]

The funny thing is, nobody ever had to stop playing it. Just because GW said it was over didn't make it true unless everyone just decided to make it true.

[@lukeamparo6586]

17:39 that Mori Calliope horse meme was uncalled for bro😂

[@johnsmith396]

I was looking for this comment😂

[@Boggarthh]

I don’t get it?

[@sqocks8254]

​@@Boggarthh The girl transparently shown at 17:39 is Mori Calliope. A while back there was a joke about her and horses going around that fits well with what Pancreasnowork said at that point in the video. It was all in good fun for everyone involved, look up _Mori Calliope Horse Meme_ if you want more details.

[@Boggarthh]

@@sqocks8254 thank you, Calli's appearance there makes more sense.

[@McFatson]

I'm looking at that Ork kit and my brain says "Combat Patrol: Snake Bites is fucking crazy dude" and now I wanna start a green tide army.

[@balthazar579]

no views 5 comments oh boy

[@pancreasnowork9939]

I fell off

[@balthazar579]

@@pancreasnowork9939 implying you were ever up, I see you

[@zeroalpha9713]

Bruh it been a few minutes

[@beanieb0b]

@@balthazar579wild lol

[@sunchipsluvah4057]

Such is the power of Nagash.

[@melbezarus]

Time for Brettonia to retake the field.

[@BloodStoneFortress]

I've played 4 games of ToW so far after only a year of playing "table top wargames" in the form of 40k. Which, admittedly is a very small amount. This 4 games are some of the most fun I have had in a tabletop wargame.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

My only hope is that the Old War brings more nuances to Chaos. The original Warhammer fantasy Chaos Gods were actually complex. They weren’t one-sidedly evil. You actually saw the good sides of the chaos gods. Khorne had a WIFE and wasn’t a mindless butcherer. He preferred blood to be spilt in battle rather then in the massacre of defenseless civilians.

[@williammiller79]

Wait Khorne had a *WIFE?!?!??!* WHAT’S NEXT, THE CONVENIENT ELVEN GODDESS AND/OR GODDESS OF HEALING THAT GETS YOINKED BY NURGLE OR SLAANESH AND DOESN’T GET USED AS A SEX TOY OR INFINITE DISEASE TESTER?!?!!?

[@Uglukkk]

Seeing as they are one of the "evil" factions, I don't have much hope to be honest.

[@mortarion9813]

I remember Old Khorne. I much prefer that one. Hell, I still pretend that Old Khorne _is_ the current one whenever I play a Khornate character or army in any Warhammer setting. The old Khorne (don't know much about how the other Gods were around that time) just felt so much more _interesting._

[@Kaiserboo1871]

@@mortarion9813 The more I read about Fantasy chaos, the more I understand why some people in the setting would be attracted to that religion. In 40k, it baffles me how Chaos managed to attract so many followers. Chaos in 40k is so over the top evil that at times it makes me wonder how it is so prevalent. Some have argued that the reason why it’s popular in the 40k lore is because life in the Imperium of Man is so soul crushingly miserable that people turn to 40k chaos in order to escape the pain of having to live in it. I’m

[@joshwenn989]

The idea that Khorne was ever anything but a mindless butcher is a meme. Literally the very first time he is described in the Realm of Chaos books, it is as a mindless berserker obsessed with death and blood.

[@eta2670]

I liked your bit about the fact that you know the end times are coming and will end badly is like Star Wars. The only thing I would say is it’s not like watching the clones wars even though you know order 66 is coming, it’s closer to watching Luke saving the galaxy knowing that 7,8,9 are coming

[@pankotown2455]

Just when I had forgot the Mori horse thing im reminded in a warhammer lore video of all places

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Forbidden knowledge is not so easily forgotten.

[@a.morphous66]

I assume the Don’t section will consist entirely of “play Bretonnia”

[@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976]

The fuckin mori calliope image got me wheezing

[@danielbellah3443]

Pancreasnowork makes a video on my sick day? Such is the power of Nagash.

[@FlourEater]

The Old World coming back is like my childhood giving me a hug. I absolutely love it.

[@WarhammerFan92]

Howdy Mr.@PancreasNoWork. I've been a big fan of your videos for a while now. They remind me of the humor from old 1d/4chan where I'd originally read up on Warhammer lore. I'm curious if you'd ever make Any Do or Don't videos' on these factions?: .Chaos Daemons in 40k on tabletop. (I know you don't like Khorne on tabletop, but it would help some of us Daemons players who like mixed daemons). .Hedonites of Slaanesh. .Death Guard. .Leagues of Votann (not sure if you'd covered them, and I know they're newer, but hey). .Necromunda .Sisters of Battle. These are merely suggestions however, I do enjoy your videos so keep up the good work!

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Yeah his sense of humor reminds me a lot of those old pages I used to read all the time in high school. Shame 1d4chan is dead for good this time, it served many a neckbeard well over the years.

[@darkon4442]

@@Calvin_Coolage 2d4chan is a thing, thankfully, even if it is just an archive and you can't edit it.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

@@darkon4442 It's certainly better than nothing but I liked seeing some pages update in real time. I wonder if that wiki would be on fire right now between the squatting in AoS and the dumpster fire that is 40k 10th edition overall. Edit: I forgot, there is 1d6chan which it seems some people have taken up as the successor and started editing to keep abreast with recent news.

[@Reaper419Darkangel]

I had the OG Tomb Kings, and I couldn’t help but fear the future. Given that it’s GW, and what they did to my sigmarines, it’s a fear that doesn’t leave me

[@bestprogaming5134]

A cup for old world.

[@williamglass2223]

From a Beastman fan, we’re used to being disappointed. Besides, all the models were Fantasy anyway. I’m just glad I never finished my army so I don’t have to change bases and can set them up immediately to square bases.

[@viyhexe131]

Having just read Kinslayer, I will see your "Snorri can't remember right now" and raise you one "Let Snorri do something right"

[@kingbonezai4925]

I feel like one of the things that would make Old world super easy to adopt is if people are chill with using AOS and Middle Earth Models, it could save money as well as allow cool new miniatures for people to use, rather than the outdated ones.

[@loganmurphy4447]

This is like WOW releasing classic and I’m here for it

[@SinaKec]

For the first time in a while I can stand behind Pancreas's arguments. Welcome back Pancreas. The subs didn't taint you.

[@knight-lordxander2818]

For the Lady! Bretonnia is back!

[@Copperbagel]

"Bretonnia is Bad" is the only opinion of his that I don't agree with, I feel like it has potential and he's looking at the army at face value (and GW kicked Bretonnia in the balls way too many time in WF)

[@TheLostPrimarch2nd]

​@@CopperbagelI tried reading the new book "Lords of the Lance*.... HOLY SHIT IT WAS BAD.

[@isimiel3405]

@@Copperbagel but their FRENCH

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

​@@TheLostPrimarch2nd really? I found it perfectly enjoyable.

[@antonycharalampous5454]

​@TheLostPrimarch2nd how so? If you don't mind my asking

[@libertylemonz7145]

Honestly at one point it felt like GW was trying to smother Old World in the cradle. Hopefully it selling well will stop that.

[@darkomihajlovski3135]

I think it's more they allocated the bare minimum amount recourses to get it out the door I imagine the success will motivate then to invest more and make more new models

[@thanhhaitran9422]

17:37 Molesting horses. Mori. That checks

[@whatevernotmatter18347]

context please

[@thanhhaitran9422]

@@whatevernotmatter18347 search up Mori horse audio. (NSFW)

[@FlumboFrommelkont]

@@whatevernotmatter18347 She's a vtuber. Her fans, or rather the more demented fans among them, used an ai voice model of her to have her do... things, with horses.

[@sapperdaddy3035]

As a huge Warhammer fantasy fan, I couldn’t stop but giggle through this entire video. Thoroughly entertaining thank you :-)

[@liesel6924]

I was going to say you missed Nippon, but their lore can be summarised as "A bunch of weirdos in the east on an island of warlords".

[@jackthunderbolt4307]

So Warhammer japan?

[@BrettEns]

If you're having problems gluing you metal minis together, you can scratch up the connection points with a knife tip or file. That helps them glue together a lot easier.

[@JustBearly]

The Old World still has no Dogs of War...Until the day it does, I shall be a disappointed man.

[@paulgonzalez1431]

I accidently came upon this video. Damn I didn't know Warhammer fantasy was gone. I haven't played since my daughter was born 12 years ago. I'm gonna pick up these rules and dust off my old armies; Orcs, Dwarves and Wood Elves. Yep 3 full armies, that how much I was into Fantasy. Do they still do Gamesday down in Baltimore? I forget which year I won their fantasy tournament it was either 2005 or 2006 with Wood Elves . Good times!

[@Peptuck]

"Rats also exist on this planet." Imperial Witchhunter: *loads flintlock with suppressing intent*

[@Conves]

I really hope they go with 2 timelines where chaos failed and one where it leads to age of sigmar

[@Name.is2]

I'm glad to hear this, also a fantasy fan over 40k and its so true that the lore is so much better to explain things in fantasy than 40k.

[@Buch0u_1]

That Mori reference was gold lol

[@JohnnyTightIips]

Love the Age of Mythology music in the background, really fits the old world vibe.

[@SomersetDrinker]

Warhammer fantasy is want made me a nerd. As soon as I sat down and said “can I paint a night goblin archer” my fate and wallet was sealed.

[@piolewus]

Thy fate was sealed and the wallet unsealed

[@raspberrymilkshake5782]

I will say aos chaos dwarves seem pretty likely in the future, which might be why they're legends- like the demon, lizardmen and skaven. (coping wanting a good aos dwarf faction)

[@taosterlord157]

One positive that you haven't mentioned is the *extensive* 3dp selection online. The Old World was kept alive through many fan-supported projects, like The 9th Age, the Warhammer Armies Project, etc, and many 3D designers made great versions of fantasy models. If your army hasn't been released but you have access to a 3d printer, go nuts!

[@SkySlug12]

I'm grateful that I'm taking Orcs instead of Tomb Kings. I even managed to start it by buying the Bonesplitterz units. Though mostly the savage orcs and two shamans were on the Warhammer site since the pigs and Big Boss were already out of stock, I did get the Big Boss through other means, thankfully.

[@samuelrodriguez9801]

The bear cavalry was something invented by Total War the terracotta were also smaller in older lore. Also it wasn't just Estalia that crusaded against Araby but Tilea and the Empire too. Estalia also has pirates. I also think it's frustrating how they dumbed things down to just good and evil in Old World when it was far more nuanced with good people in surprising places.

[@lazerhosen]

Metal models require more prep than plastic. Lots of soap + water + toothbrush. You will also need to pin many metal parts to one another, otherwise many bonds can be strengthened by hiding some tissue/toilet paper in a space between them as a "cement/grout" between the parts. Superglue + baking soda is also amazing, but will leave a messy texture so should be used for gap-filling in less-visible parts of the model. Putty is also your friend. Good luck! PS: Painting metal is not unpleasant if you correctly clean/prep and *prime* the model. The only issue is how easy the paint is to chip off... but the solution to that is good varnish.

[@MaxTheGreatMTG]

Nice! Maybe do Sisters of Battle Next?

[@TheNubaHS]

"Do you like tits? Do you prefer to play with tits than castrated big men? then SoB is the perfect fit for you"

[@MichaelBrown-gc6li]

Emperor deliver us

[@chrismath149]

@@MichaelBrown-gc6li From the Sisters of Battle.

[@scooterdescooter4018]

no. more orkz

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

I always loved how magic works in the the fantasy setting - it's just way more unpredictable and primal, it actually feels like a force of nature. It is thus more engaging than most fantasy setting magic, like DnD, which is basically just 'press X to cast the nearest equivalent of gun' (outside of wild sorcery).

[@quandalesquigly]

Lord Kroak: *dies in battle* Also Lord Kroak: "It's just a flesh wound" *keeps fighting Chaos like nothing happened*

[@thatguyonline5083]

Cringe

[@jessematthews6861]

fell in love with it when you first spoke about it, but by the time I could buy minis, they moved onto age of sigmar, so I got my fix with warhammer total war. now that its back, I can finally see high elves kick the teeth in on mommy morathi and her burn patient son

[@blt4033]

17:42 damn, had to do it to the reaper

[@robincray116]

Fun Fact: At one point in old lore, it was hinted that 40k and fantasy was the same setting. Lustria once had Amazonian ladies welding "high age artefacts" such as lasguns.

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

23:15 Another one the End Times kinda screwed up was if Sigmar is actually a god or not.

[@Willie5000]

41:20 The Dark Elves are still in AoS where their range is intact. That's a huge part of why they aren't in Old World outside of legacy content.

[@Scrombo2]

My favorite fantasy/aos faction is the cocaine rats with laser guns that at best have loose aesthetic ties to WWI......that probably says all it needs to abt how much of a history buff I am, probably won't pick this up but, I'm glad it exists for people who will enjoy it

[@Volvith]

26 year old dude here. They took my childhood game from me. I was 11 when i started, 16 when i lost it. _I'm not sure they deserve my forgiveness._

[@Willie5000]

I mean, you got it back now soooo...

[@Morec0]

Except not really. ​@@Willie5000

[@Willie5000]

@@Morec0 Old World is literally just a new edition of Fantasy Battles.

[@Morec0]

@@Willie5000 Except it's not. It's in the past compared to it. And that's not even considering it shouldn't have gone to begin with.

[@Willie5000]

@ Then how are they not the same game?

[@drewwanzek6]

I feel like I speak for a lot of us when I say your videos are the highlight of my KZbin day

[@severdislike4222]

Settra would like to remind everyone that he's not done running over Nagash with his chariot like a Grand Theft Auto civilian yet as Nagash obviously doesn't have enough skid-marks on his face and also has the most punchable face (Barring Manfred, who is also a problem caused by Nagash's face) in the setting according to Settra.

[@TheBackbunner]

This video makes me want to kickstart my Old World army(ies). Was going to wait for the Empire and see if a majority of them would keep their pre-Cities army refresh prices (most were under $35), but maybe speed up getting square bases for my Beastman and finishing them. So many decisions to make and all thanks to this video.

[@renimusmaximus]

In relation to the War in Heaven, I have a question for you as well as anyone who wants to answer. Do you think that writing what happened would benefit the setting or worsen it? My main concerns are this: 1: This is the company that wrote the Endtimes but also turned the Horus Heresy into basically a breakdown of "everyone has daddy issues so now we must fight" and I'm not sure I trust them to do justice to something like "the reason everything in this setting came to exist". There's no way anything they do will live up to the hype. 2: I learned recently of a term I have come to like, called the Noodle Incident trope. Based on a small series of comics from Calvin and Hobbes where the author never actually said what the noodle incident was but showed how terrified Calvin was of people knowing about it happening as well as being punished by his parents if they found out. The author noted that any explanation of what actually happened would lower the effect of the joke because the fact we don't know means our imaginations can run wild on what could make Calvin so upset. So the power of the unknown is rather powerful in defining something for us that can turn into personal narratives on how important or devastating something truly was. Could the same principle be used for the War In Heaven, that us not knowing keeps the possibilities open? 3: The movie Han Solo is a full detailed breakdown of all the cool things Han Solo did that he referenced casually in the original films. And all of them are lamer than the implications. Now that we know about it, it also sadly undercuts how cool Han is because we know through a lot of his stuff he was scared, young, and kinda an idiot rather than a badass doing stuff because he knows he's got this. If the War In Heaven has similar stuff for say, the birth of Khorne happening during the War In Heaven, wouldn't that damage Khorne in his modern setting if his creation was kinda just...lame? But these are general questions, I'm curious as to what everyone else thinks. And if you want to discuss them of course but I doubt it. Either way, I'm really glad the Old World is around again. It's good to see these old factions, and I wish it nothing but success.

[@bonniethefemboy]

I started playing old world on day one, built my skaven army (yeah it's a legacy army idc) and been enjoying it, I really hope it stays around for a long time because this is my first real wargame and some of the most fun I've had, I've tried 40k and aos and there no near as fun

[@boodstain]

I'm hoping CA just goes with timeline plots and essentially have Fantasy reach the end times but this time Carstein isn't an idiot and the forces of order/destruction defeat Chaos, preserving the world and characters so they can have their wars/conflicts continue with the remnants of Chaos still existing but this time actively have to try to win rather than being given all the god-powers as they are actively cut off from those gods now. They can still have AOS in the "timeline" where chaos wins, and another one where they lose.

[@Vasily_Kotickovitch]

People really don’t understand that “parallel realities” and alternative timelines are sort o lowest quality? Look at the REAL WORLD: the Roman Empire fell, the Medieval ended, WW2 is over - some may not like it, but this is FACTS, the COURSE OF HISTORY.

[@krankarvolund7771]

CA already said that Total War is a different timeline and that they will not do End Times ^^ Besides, Total War is like one of the worst franchise to do lore, it's a sandbox, their campaigns are rarely interesting ^^'

[@dratesdragetes777]

Rule book already states the aos realms was inevitable

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@dratesdragetes777 The Total War Rule Book? XD That's the Old World, but GW don't want the Old World or Age of Sigmar to be in the same continuity as Total War ^^

[@6Stevo]

Damn! Your videos are bloody good! Informative and entertaining as hell.

[@UGNAvalon]

17:38 Is that the second holotuber we’ve seen on this channel so far?? And no Skaven Bae??

[@stormelemental13]

What?

[@iielysiumx5811]

It makes sense really that old world is doing so well, thanks to total war it’s a setting many new fans (like myself) are very familiar with, and as someone who was introduced to the setting through the total war games I was a bit upset when I found out all the models were either discontinued or marked up to all hell

[@patrickmcginty3234]

I think the biggest lore positive for The Old World is the possibility of the End Times being revisited. Thanks to Total War Warhammer, Kislev and Grand Cathay have become major factions that play an integral role in the setting. They now can't simply be killed off within a few paragraphs like they were originally. Unlike the Horus Heresy, there are plenty of other factions that were originally obscure in the lore can be expanded upon as a way to prolong the game's lifespan, such as the Snakemen of Kuresh or Tilea and Estalia to name a few examples. Plus, with more Fantasy characters making their way into Age of Sigmar, it would be of GW's best interest to create a coherent plot that can act as a proper transition to Age of Sigmar while also leaving enough room for new factions and characters to be brought in.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

You know they just recently said Kislev and Cathay aren't coming to TOW right?

[@mogwaiman6048]

The story ends at the battle of kislev. It's not revisiting the end times.

[@patrickmcginty3234]

The game itself is set to last until the Great War Against Chaos, assuming GW doesn't change their mind later. There is still plenty of places and events to explore until then. However, there is nothing stopping them from making a new book series portraying the End Times in detail, similar to how they made the Horus Heresy series. The Siege of Terra alone managed to go on for 9 whole books, more than the entire End Times series. I'm not saying the End Times series should be as big as the Horus Heresy series overall or that it should be retconned out of existence. I just think the Fantasy setting deserve to have an ending that is not lazily written just to make room for a new game.

[@lightningechidna147]

@Calvin_Coolage so they false advertised then. Cause a bunch of promotion for old world was then saying they were adding Cathy and kislev.

[@HamyHaxxor]

Fuck man, this was a great video. I've been walking the sideline lately about getting into Warhammer as my adult hobby since being enthralled with it as a young teen. Now, 37 and with a mortgage, I think im ready to take the leap into Fantasy Warhammer.

[@diggytablet]

I was there when GW burned Fantasy to the ground. I was overjoyed when I learned about the old world's return, until I realized that my two main armies are on the 'legacy' list. Needless to say, my disappointment was immeasurable and my wallet will remain closed. Hope the rest of you have fun with the setting, tho. You really can't go home again.

[@franciscomoutinho4390]

Today was my birthday and this was the biggest possible coincidence of a video

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Im not surprised fantasy sold so fast. Sonetimes just sometimes people prefer generic fantasy like classing mountain hold dwarfs, high elfs and such.

[@joedatius]

im not suprised at all. games like Vermintide and total war Warhammer has shown just how many people really love the setting. GW simply failed the setting and decided instead of fixing things and giving it the love it needs to grow its audience back to instead blow it up like a bratty kid who lost at monopoly

[@joshwenn989]

@@joedatius The game was stone-cold dead and being crushed by Warmachine at the time of its cancellation. At the time, just about nobody cared about it. It took Vermintide and TWW for it to regain any semblance of popularity. People 'loving a setting' doesn't equal people buying models or playing games. Fantasy was given plenty of releases on a steady schedule up until its death and it still didn't sell. It even had a low-level skirmish mode that was discontinued because it was so unpopular.

[@-Ironers-]

@@joshwenn989 GW had wanted to replace WFB years before, so they let it wither on the vine and made sure it was unpopular before killing it off.

[@thesouthernbearsfan]

Dude I’m so glad this game came back The war of the beard would make an amazing movie/show

[@cristianmurillo4873]

Bretonnia rocks

[@Calvin_Coolage]

The fact that I like them despite the faction being aggressively French speaks volumes. And I'm someone who doesn't much care for the usual Tolkien-esque fantasy aesthetic so seeing straight up 11th-13th century knights fight stock fantasy races is very amusing to me.