What Happens as Wine Ages? (Tasting One Riesling Across Three Decades)

[@carlcadregari7768]

Love old Riesling….and young Riesling, who am I kidding, I just love Riesling. Especially with some botrytis. Lovely video.

[@NoSediment]

Same here! Love Riesling’ 🥂

[@Blair338RUM]

Great tasting Agnese. Here in Australia as you are aware Riesling develops very strong petrol notes as they age, but I’ve had many that were 10-12 years old. I had a Zind Humbrect that was nearly 15 years old in a Paris restaurant and it was still in good condition.

[@NoSediment]

Yes, it is kerosine that will sometimes take me to Australia or if there is some r/s -> New Zealand! 😁 I think Alsace is a region we should discover more - such an interesting winemaking area, with very unique wines’ 🍾

[@mickeylee2624]

How lovely! I was curious specifically about Riesling's progression, but I haven't had an opportunity to try any aged... partly because my dining companion and I enjoy fresh style and partly because we can't keep them stocked enough in our limited space. 🤣😂 My vote would for your next vertical tasting would be Gruner Veltliner or Unoaked Chardonnay (i.e. Diatom) among white wines and Carmenere (or Carmenere-dominated blends) or a Merlot-dominant Right Banker (St. Emilion GCC/PCC or Pomerol) among the reds.

[@NoSediment]

I would definitely love the idea of Gruner, even though it is very specific, but that grape can age. I would also love Chardonnay. Right Bank would probably clear out my bank account. 😂😂😂

[@mickeylee2624]

@@NoSediment, I suggested GV because I personally am about to embark on exploring it. As for the Right Bank, I figure you would have make a better choice for the wines and greater access to the multi-vintages than us. ;-)

[@thekindpenguin7497]

2:57 my favorite window, the drinking window, i could stare out of it all day Killer video, rare to see a comparison of one wine from 3 different decades! And the label was even unchanged. Im not sure if wineries change labels often, im new to wine, but still neat!

[@NoSediment]

Thank You so very much! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Wineries do change labels, but in this case they have kept it stable over many decades. And it is very their style and people recognise it. 🥂 Cheers!

[@connorwinton4343]

had an aged auslese from 1983 recently, unbelievably gorgeous. It depends on personal taste of course but don't knock those older wines... just make sure to get a Durand!

[@NoSediment]

Durand is a good advice and much needed for those older wines, for sure! 💪

[@stefanvehoff1715]

It really comes down to what you want. There are good reasons to drink for all three of them! I also trust in good producers who would not sell a wine that’s not ready. And as you say: you cannot go back once it’s too late. But if you think it might have been too early, just buy another bottle. Or two. Or a case. 😀

[@NoSediment]

Good advice, and let’s hope we all have the financial means to do so. I have opened few wines, that were still too young, but unfortunately I cannot afford them again. And for sure not several bottles.

[@stefanvehoff1715]

@@NoSediment That‘s the biggest risk when trying an expensive wine: you might like it. 😉

[@Fibonacci21]

Riesling tasting and iron maiden tshirt. Keep rocking, love your videos!

[@ThomasWilliams-ee6li]

I have never considered aging Riesling wines. I have always just bought and consumed them. I have a wine cellar with a range of reds but very few white wines. I just might try this because we like Riesling wine.

[@NoSediment]

Definitely, Riesling can age wonderfully, it is worth waiting with some wines’ 🥂

[@davidhalldurham]

What an excellent, informative video!!! Thank you so much.

[@NoSediment]

Thank You for tuning in! 🥂

[@devibrands]

Hi Agnese, great video again! Love your channel. A video idea: I’d be very interested in how you use your coravin and what your experience is with it. Would be great to get the perspective of a master of wine student who seems to be using it regularly ☺️

[@NoSediment]

I usually use the vintage needle, just to make sure that the hole is as small as possible. But I did make a video on coravin - maybe that will be useful to You. 🙏🏻

[@SteveDC]

Riesling, the red wine drinkers white wine. Something special about aged Riesling. For me with Australian Riesling you either drink them upon release or wait 8-10+ fot best results. Very informative video! Thank you!

[@NoSediment]

Cheers! 🥂

[@baggrabb]

You don’t seem old enough to have purchased the 2006 on release 😮😉. I tend to agree with you, I’d prefer the middle ground or younger. It’s academic, though, I don’t buy aged wines for a couple reasons, and I don’t have cellar capacity to age wines myself for more than five years or so. This is one of your best and most entertaining and informative videos. Thanks so much! 🌺🙏❤️ In answer to your question: pinot noir. I find more division on the ageability (in general) of this wine. I generally drink the PNs I buy (mostly Oregon and California) within 3years of release, believing that age is unlikely to improve them. Cheers!

[@NoSediment]

Did I say I purchased them on release? I meant direct from the winery. Sorry for confusion

[@servicepartsjapan2687]

I love vertical tastings and I would hope you do a Bordeaux vertical over 15-20 years (each 4-5 years), or a Champagne one. I have done a few vertical tastings and I have noticed some wines feel more watery and more diluted approaching the 10 years. (cheaper wines less than $20). Considering your long career and experience I would love your input as regarding the body weight and concentration of an aged wine in comparison to a recent vintage.

[@NoSediment]

Bordeaux actually makes a lot of sense, if there is one winemaking region that can truly age magnificently- it must be Bordeaux. Champagne also sounds really great, just slightly harder to find examples in the market if You don’t have the wines already in Your cellar. Thank You for Your comment and the tips! 🍷

[@df71091]

One of my favourite producers from Austria 👌

[@df71091]

1998 Riesling Auslese from Rheingau in Germany was the best ever. Exotic fruits, now acidity , like a dessert wine without the sugar but with some minimal acidity.

[@violawit]

Great producer and lovely wine. Sangiovese, Nebbiolo, and Riesling are my favorite aged wines. It would be great to see a similar video but with these other grapes :)

[@NoSediment]

Noted, thank You for the suggestion.

[@apistosig4173]

Fabulous Presentation. What variety next? your choice. I have poured more wines down the sink than I care to recall. Too few really understand the rudiments of aging wines. In my experiences the wines are either kept too long - or - kept inappropriately. FWIW - I don't drink white wines. I've had Shiraz for 20 years and Shiraz that maxed out at 7 - all Australian.

[@NoSediment]

It would be nice to taste aged Syrah, I think that grape is not fully appreciated. 🍷 Cheers!

[@dangareau3143]

Great video. Just discovered Riesling (good Riesling that is) over the past couple of years but to ask what verticals you should do…the possibilities are endless!!! Tuscany, barolo’s, riojas or even some Napa valley. You would definitely do a killer job on all of them.

[@NoSediment]

That is true, wine world and the possibilities it offers are endless. I will start to gather the wines for the next tasting. 🙌🙌🙌

[@robdielemans9189]

Have you had your first GG yet? Grosses Gewachs.

[@a090006]

Very nice video miss Iron Maiden!

[@NoSediment]

😂😂 Thank You’ 🙏🏻

[@mepo90189]

Very reminiscent of “Goldilocks and the three bears”. Visually the 2006 looks just right.

[@Colin-o9b]

You'll forever ♾️ ❣️ be an increasing and accruing vintage all your years Agnese! Do a vertical tasting of DRC Monopole please along with DRC Montrachet please ❤ in a separate video!😂😊🎉

[@mepo90189]

Very nice tasting Agnes.

[@NoSediment]

Thank You, I enjoyed those wines a lot.

[@df71091]

Im interested in 100% Cabernet Franc but barrique. Price range not above 50€. Had a great bottle from Israel that blew my mind.

[@konstantinoskonstantinou7771]

Would love to see a vertical tasting of Sena Winery (Chile). would love to see how this wine style from the new world develops through the decades

[@NoSediment]

That is very specific, I wonder if I could get vertical of their wines. 🤔🤔🤔

[@konstantinoskonstantinou7771]

@@NoSediment Very specific indeed. :( I am a great fan of Bordeaux Style wines and I think with Sena you get amazing wine for what you pay. It would be great if you can do this type of vertical with other gems such as Gran Enemigo, or Sena or Clos Apalta or other similar new world wines whai are still affordable

[@kareltimmerman]

for me personally, aging wine means more character. While the wine ages, I also age and with it my preference. 35 years ago I was not a uge fan of Iron Maiden, but in the here and now I absolutely am. I mean to indicate that over time the product changes and the taste changes with it... my daughter prefers a younger wine, while I personally prefer a more dated wine. My conclusion is that the wine develops and our personal preferences develop along with it. For me it makes it hard to explain what happens to the wine in the whole perspective.... Or am I missing something?

[@NoSediment]

Agree! Just as I said at the end, every single wine will have someone that loves them at their stage of the development. You prefer aged wines, while Your daughter prefers younger wines. 🥂

[@aysunrhn1]

I don't discriminate when it comes to riesling. Love them all ❤ great video, yet again 👌

[@NoSediment]

True, true! I love the grape as well. 💪

[@df71091]

Had this Riesling , it was so intense. The even more expensive F.X.Pichler just tasted like water afterwards😅

[@NoSediment]

Hahahah, yes, this producer makes a very distinct style. F.X.Pichler is actually close by. 😃

[@jamesclalonde]

Timorasso please!! Is it the greatest white grape variety? No one has covered that, and I'd love to know what you think. BTW your content is excellent.

[@NoSediment]

Thank You, I will make sure to gather some examples on my next trip to Piedmont! 🙏🏻

[@seminky5341]

Once in 2010s, i bought a 1994 jc becker Riesling. At that point i dont know anything abt wine what more riesling. All i know is old wine is good. To my disbelieve, it tasted soo smooth and slight sweet. Almost no alcohol. I love it but i think that will be the last time i bought old wine. Hahahah

[@NoSediment]

That is completely fine! I have many prominent wine experts told me that the obsession with old wines has gone too far. Some see it as a nice experience, but find pleasure in younger vintages.

[@bradbellomo6896]

If you can find the right winery, I'd love to see this tasting done with Nebbiolo but would appreciate any red. In the USA, quality aged white wine is hard to find and above the budget of most of us.

[@NoSediment]

I did one with Rivetto Barolo’s - the concept was different as it was blind and we were looking for a vintage characteristics rather than ageing nuances. But Barolo for me - might be the next best option. I love the wine, I would always be happy to open few bottles.

[@mondarinvino107]

Perhaps some Spanish Garnacha (Priorat) or Loire Chenin Blanc please

[@NoSediment]

Very cool suggestions! 🍷 Thank You.

[@Swiss_fintech]

Thanks, Agnese! We drank at 2021 Tagnanello last night. I thought it would be too young but it was incredible. 🤩🍷

[@NoSediment]

I am sure it was and happy You enjoyed it. If it was a size 0.375 - they usually develop faster than the regular sized bottles! 🍷🍷

[@seminky5341]

I didnt know smaller format aged faster ​@@NoSediment

[@ruud24k]

@@seminky5341 Corks for half, full and magnum bottle are the same size. So they all let the same amount of oxygen through. But with less wine in the bottle there is more oxygen per ml wine available. Therefore half bottle ages a bit faster and a magnum ages a bit slower. That's the theory. I don't really have a grasp on what that effectively means in practice. Is it twice as fast for a half bottle in general then?

[@NoSediment]

Yes, I think I made a video on this. 🍷

[@NoSediment]

Absolutely correct. I wouldn’t go as far as to say that it ages twice as fast, but definitely faster. Sometimes, for young wines it is even better to choose smaller formats. I remember, my previous boss would prefer demi-champagne bottles when they just arrived from the winery, over regular sizes. 🥂

[@nasos00]

Awesome video. Next vertical should be Xinomavro from Naoussa. 5, 10 and 15 years old

[@NoSediment]

Wow, I am yet to travel to Greece and gather the examples. But great suggestion. 🙏🏻

[@nasos00]

@NoSediment well when that time arrives I'm happy to provide recommendations. Although I am sure you have your connections too

[@TheDesertWineGuy]

Does aged wine have any official definition or it it the same as "reserve" or "old vines", just a way to raise price?

[@mikaelplaysguitar]

Depends on the region, e.g. Rioja has very clear rules for Crianza, Reserva and Gran Reserva.

[@NoSediment]

No, not in this case. These wines are aged in my cellar, I just chose to open them now. :)

[@arrowzen7433]

Rioja vertical next

[@NoSediment]

Deal! 💪

[@arrowzen7433]

@ Nice - it often surprises me how long lasting they are (reds in particular) and how slow they develop sometimes. There is an interesting alchemy taking place between varietal(s), place, barrels and time.

[@ROGER-yo9cy]

Mencía for example 🍇

[@NoSediment]

Noted! 🍷🍷🍷 Cheers!

[@ROGER-yo9cy]

@@NoSediment, Cheers 🥂

[@Ruirspirul]

there is aging wines for them to reach their optimum form, something like 3-10 years and there are fetish aging which is absolute useless. if you made a wine and it needs 40 years to show its perfect form, you might want to change things in the vineyard. edit: and I dont get why should I be excited with the fact that 18 year old white wine still shows signs of life? who cares?😅 excellent video as usual, touching very interesting topics from very honest angles…

[@NoSediment]

Maybe You do not care, but for some it might be important. Especially if You have few bottles in Your own cellar, and wonder should You open them or not. Well, if You want to enjoy the wine instead of making salad 🥗 - it is the last moment. It is still pleasure to drink it, but not for long. 😃

[@M1ch31]

Wat did you mean with micelium note?

[@EmsThaBreaks441]

Yeasty?

[@carlcadregari7768]

Mushroom?

[@SN-if8dh]

Mycelium, the "roots" of fungus/mushrooms. Earthy, cucumber, fresh dirt kinda smell, but different species smell different e.g. oyster vs shiitake mushroom mycelium does not have the same smell...

[@NoSediment]

Fresh mushroom noted, not cooked or spoiled, but fresh, white. ☺️ it was meant as a positive descriptor.

[@secretlook9218]

wat one was tastiest???

[@NoSediment]

For me the Wine2 was the favourite, and then Wine1. :)

[@peterburlin8198]

In my unfortunately limited experience quality dry Riesling is best about 10-15 years after the harvest, after that it usually gets a bit iffy and ”interesting”. The sweet and semisweet ones can age well for many more years.

[@QualeQualeson]

I do believe that the topic (better or not with age) is far too complex to produce a definitive answer, so why look for one. We humans have a nasty tendency to turn our limited cognitive capacity into a matter of ideology. The idea isn't to produce truth, but simply to establish ones personal convictions or agendas as truth for others. In other words; it's not about facts, it's about power. "The wine is old enough to order its own wine" Come on now 😏😄 Is that sommelier humour? PS: I appreciate the verticals. It gives me a shortcut to some insight. Do some that are known for improving with age, like something French maybe, IF you can afford it. That's a big if. EDIT oh and PPS: The Norwegian Wine Monopoly operates with three categories for aging. It's A: "Ready to drink, not suitable for storage". B: "Ready to drink but can also be stored" and C: "Gets better with storage." I thought maybe you'd find that interesting.

[@NoSediment]

I think those descriptors were first thought me in WSET, but in all honesty, I as I said- each wine will have their own people who prefer it that way. Older, younger, so who we are to judge? 😅

[@josephsiegel7084]

Gee...I wonder how pre-determined the selection is. Welcome to the instant gratification age.

[@NoSediment]

I am not sure I understood correctly Your comment..?

[@atamo4323]

Semillon or barolo or cdp blanc

[@NoSediment]

Outside Barolo, very interesting choices! I will see what I can do! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@EllementWine]

"Probably" one of the great white varieties?

[@NoSediment]

Probably one of greatest white grape varieties!

[@EllementWine]

@@NoSediment Haha, we can dispense with the "probably", no? Is there any doubt that it is?

[@NoSediment]

I would guess someone would craft a good argument for Chardonnay or Sauvignon Blanc as well. Or maybe Chenin. 😃

[@robdielemans9189]

Riesling is not the best grape for white wines, it is the best grape for wines period.

[@NoSediment]

Hahah, and who am I to disagree?

[@yriafehtivan]

Sweet dreams are made of sweet Riesling.