What happens if this happens? | PAYDAY 2 Mythbusting

[@thej2241]

GO Bank is such a complicated heist you definitely wouldn’t expect it to be one of the earliest heists introduced post-launch.

[@arkaua]

What? Go Bank is the exact type of different and experimental heist you would expect out of early post-launch PD2... OVERKILL hasn't done a cool and unique heist in years.

[@MyUsersDark]

@@arkaua Buluc's mansion, Dragon heist, Ukrainian Prisoner, Mountain Master, Midland ranch

[@arkaua]

@@MyUsersDark You just described the most mid heists in the game.

[@SLKibara]

@@arkaua Buluc's Mansion being mid? Mountain Master? What are you? Insane? Especially with Mountain Master being one of the only heists with a final boss that does something.

[@arkaua]

@@SLKibara PAYDAY shouldn't have bosses to begin with. This isn't Marvel, it's a heisting movie inspired game.

[@Londonne3]

this heist also existed in the era when you could have 6 pagers through joker.

[@Marcmb]

Very true! Dominating and converting guards in stealth was so OP... but it would easily allow you to deal with this situation :D

[@TheMalevolentSpoon]

Wow, I had forgotten about that!

[@huseynhasanov8162]

@@Marcmb I discovered the game just this year alone. I wonder what those dominated guards used to do in stealth exactly, anything interesting?

[@atrekkers]

​@@huseynhasanov8162 Not really. You were able to convert guards into your allies (like you can in loud heists with Joker skill), but while the heist still was in stealth. Converted guards in stealth didn't require a pager to answer, so it allowed you to have more than 4 pagers in a sort of legit way

[@huseynhasanov8162]

@@atrekkers Interesting, so converting almost all guards wouldn't cause any problem at all, right?

[@Linventor]

3:02 "...you would expect the game to work..." LOOOOOOOOOL This is _Payday 2_ we're talking about here, game's held together with duct tape, hot glue, prayers, and an unidentifiable food product that's somehow acting as an effective adhesive.

[@Dazllingston]

Still not enough to fix installer :D

[@charlesOFFICIALyt]

>tf2 pfp of course you repeat ad nauseam about unstable game code. think for yourself for once please. learn to appreciate the effort in programming a game, or at least criticize with arguments you didn't just find a few days ago in a r/tf2 thread :/

[@Linventor]

@@charlesOFFICIALyt as a matter of fact, I am learning to appreciate the effort in making a game! And even if I weren't, that doesn't mean my statements are invalid. Maybe those redditors you despise (yet still interact with) have a point - I don't think a stable game is too much to ask for. I've spent nearly 500 hours heisting, almost a hundred more than I have on TF2. These are rookie numbers in comparison to many, but not insignificant by any means. Payday is the most unstable game I've ever played, to the point where I tired of attempting to exorcize whatever demon was crashing me on the daily, and have since given up on playing entirely. The game is running on an engine meant for _driving simulators._ All that being said, I can understand that you do care about Payday, and I can see that you don't like people dissing the thing you enjoy. Even so, that doesn't mean honest criticism is a bad thing. Some words of advice, from one random idiot to another: Don't go looking for an argument. Stay off of reddit. I'm doing just fine without it, myself. And, despite the internet being a beautiful hellscape, that doesn't mean it's illegal to be polite. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk; Drive safe.

[@eliasdex1236]

haha you forgot to mention the medic bag bandaids those can patch anything, from a bullet hole to a complete decapitation

[@giulgu17]

@@charlesOFFICIALyt he ain't wrong tho, this game is filled to the brim with bugs/glitches and oversights, but it doesn't mean that it's not enjoyable. Also 90% of the bugs is due to the poor game engine choise, like, Diesel engine? Wtf?

[@cuscus5011]

The best part is, GO bank is designed to fight against players from one end of the map to another, not to actually rob a bank that has a decent payout

[@Marcmb]

Trueee! It took me a while to understand what you were saying, but indeed this was actually just a PvP map from CS:GO. Really amazing that they managed to turn it into such a nice heist :D

[@MilesFox92]

I always thought that you only have like 7 seconds to get the codes. Turns out I've been panicking for no reason all this time :X

[@counterfeit1148]

And I didn't know they only send guards over when you fail to give the codes

[@Marcmb]

Haha! My old crew used to fail the codes all the time, so I learnt very early on that there's plenty of time to get the codes :D It would be cool if it was more punishing somehow, especially for full crews :p

[@Marcmb]

@@counterfeit1148 That too yup! This I also learnt very early on because of all my fails. It's not too punishing if you mess that up :p

[@thundercockjackson]

sounds like me trying to remember all the signs bain is wrong for cook off

[@Marcmb]

@@thundercockjackson That was an interesting mechanic back in the day! Always very risky if you were not confident in your memory. Fortunately they removed the RNG / misleading lines, so now you always know if he gave you the right ingredient or not (just by listening to the second sentence that he says right after suggesting an ingredient) :D

[@NekoDalian]

I imagine this scenario is intended behavior. Because it's such a trivially easy task to find the time lock codes, they didn't bother to implement a check to see how many guards had already been called. Just a case of "Welp, it's the players' own fault if they take too long to find the codes."

[@Marcmb]

Very interesting opinion Neko! That could make sense indeed, nowadays it's impossible to fail the code task (unless you're trying really hard to just ignore it, as seen in the clip) so it makes sense they wouldn't implement anything for it.

[@mauer1]

Also considering it's already a challenge to clear 4 guards solo on this one.

[@chibisayori20]

no one wants to setup Counter elements and count each guard just for a scenario that only 1% of players notice. So can't blame Overkill on this.

[@varsik289]

Nope, the reason is becuase in the past you could answer 6 pagers... And overkill did not think about it and never bothered to do something about it

[@NoobyChris]

7:28 "I will make your head explode using sound!" (Everyone dies and the heist ends abruptly)

[@Marcmb]

That would be an interesting mechanic! Perhaps you could survive if you got away from the phone, while everyone else gets downed :p On a more serious note however: it's one of the best voicelines from the heist! Really goofy haha

[@NoobyChris]

@@Marcmb Me with Armorer/Medic build: "Now is my time to shine!"

[@VovaliumsThings]

Dear lord, this actually happened to me, playing solo stealth. I scrambled to escape with what loot I could, luckily made it in time before the arriving cops became an issue

[@Marcmb]

Haha nice! I myself have only seen it once (and it's so rare!) but definitely many others have experienced it as well. Glad you at least managed to get out with some loot :D

[@spkoftdvl]

Wow, I've finally been featured on Marcmb's channel! Although I haven't played for like a month (?). About this moment, honestly I only wrote "code, track outside" because she asked for the code and I didn't even think that more guards could come, in fact I thought that the game itself would not send you 6 guards! But I would have totally agreed not to give her the codes to see what would happen, damn :c

[@Marcmb]

No worries GVZ! I totally didn't know about this interaction until we got that insanely lucky 0.6% chance on that run. I wouldn't have investigated (or made the video) if that didn't happen, so it's absolutely cool that we didn't get the full thing on that first run, since it's still the one that sparked the interest :D

[@topicisbased]

"what happens when this happens if this happens"

[@luquita1504]

While this happens because of this happening

[@zubkid9786]

Yeah but what happens then?

[@topicisbased]

@@zubkid9786 this happend because this was happening when it happend after it has happend!!

[@zubkid9786]

@@topicisbased didn't consider it happening. Makes sense

[@Marcmb]

Haha glad you liked the title Topicwasidk! Sorry for the late response btw, I haven't had a lot of time to reply to comments lately :p

[@eliasdex1236]

I remember once when I was playing Payday 2 in pub, that we missed the codes ('cuz we were all new players) and the security team arrived and I thought we were boned with the pagers, because like 2 gen sec guards and 3 blue cops arrived to the scene... luckly, the cops didn't have pagers. I was so confused and happy that they didn't after the stress of thinking the stealth was over.

[@Marcmb]

Haha very relatable yeah! Back when I was a new heister, me and my crew always messed up the codes... and shortly after we got Rogers' men as well, every time. Luckily those 3 blue cops don't have pagers :D

[@Blucario90]

It'd be a much more rough spot if you had people pager juggling while there was a blackmailer wanting cash.

[@Marcmb]

That would've been even better!! The blackmailer is just a chance related to the phone, so I'm pretty sure it would've been 100% possible haha :D

[@w1tchybusiness]

GO Bank is a heist that, no matter how many times I learn it, will always stump me. Even with your very helpful videos!

[@Marcmb]

It can be tricky with all the random events! Glad to hear that my videos can help a bit with it though :D

[@Dronkhrrrrng]

I feel like the guard layout being what it was shows they wanted to keep the "dominated guards dont page pagers" mechanic around but they forgot to touch this heist after the updates

[@Marcmb]

Hmm that's hard to say! The mechanic preventing Bain's lies from failing when you get the truck was there from the beginning, so for me it looks like the opposite... like they somehow already had the hard limit of 4 in mind! Very interesting thought though :D

[@FoxF0]

6:15 SportDay 2: Volleyball edition I love that bag-throwing and catching trick :P

[@Marcmb]

Haha! I wasn't planning on getting distracted while recording that clip, but it's just too satisfying to participate :p One of the best PAYDAY2 mechanics!

[@gibasgibny5271]

Unrelated to the video, but I've always wondered why would they sound the alarm if a guard disconnects from a a call. I suppose it makes if the guard doesn't answer at all since it could be some some medical issue (more or less deliberately caused), but I never understood why would they call the entire US Army because a guard disconnected from a call without trying to contact them again or something

[@spkoftdvl]

Payday 2 logic, just like nobody notice a guy with a med bag, a mini gun and ammo bag unless you put a mask.

[@eliasdex1236]

Makes as much sense as a guard wanting to shoot you by accidentally bumping into him.

[@FoxF0]

"Hmm...Where did John go? Hey! Status report!" "Nothing happening over here control, I was just-" "He disconnected from the call? Something must be happened to him, sound the alarm and call the army!"

[@eliasdex1236]

and then the fact that the one answering the call was Sydney (a woman) and not a John.

[@sidekic1109]

@@eliasdex1236 or some old Japanese guy instead of an American accent

[@chrisburns514]

I just hope every heist in Payday 3 is like GO Bank. Even if it were only a handful of big differences on each map, that would be a great boost for replay value

[@Marcmb]

Absolutely agree yup! Well not necessarily every single one because it might take forever to develop, but at least a few. GO Bank is one of my favorites because of all the random events, and every run being different.

[@Bazzokapho]

Fun fact, there's a prank call that will fail stealth. It happened to me once in 6 year I've been playing.

[@Marcmb]

Huh interesting! I've never gotten that one, but I'm sure there are many that I've never heard (even after hundreds of runs), considering there are so many that I've only heard once or twice, like the one at 7:30 which is extremely rare!

[@OGuiBlindao]

The blackmailer?

[@antirevomag834]

This guy: this is a rare situation! My first attempt at stealthing go bank, before i had any idea how you go through it:

[@Marcmb]

Hahaha that is so unlucky! The chance for this is literally 0.6%... Hope you managed to get through that one, on your first attempt :D

[@braixenchan7791]

I remember getting both open vault AND gensec transport during go bank heist. It was pretty...interesting

[@Marcmb]

Yup that's even rarer! It's a 1% on top of a 3%, so overall a 0.03% (compared to the 0.6% showcased in this video). I wanted to mention that as well, but sadly this scenario is a lot more straightforward since people often just ECM, go in for the money, and escape right after :p (especially since there's 5 pager guards from the beginning in this situation, so there isn't much room for other strategies!)

[@samsquanch1382]

Yeah in the shackle black tablet heist map I’ve learned out of playing it so damn much that in rare occasions there’ll be a guard that randomly walks all of outside on the 2nd floor. Had it happen to me twice

[@AlmostFreeman]

this game has so many hidden mechanics , even after 2k hours of playtime it can still surprise you

[@Marcmb]

Absolutely yup! Nearly 5k hours here, and every now and then I still find something new... Really really fun :D

[@Driver-qt9jh]

I like how pulsing the saw once is enough to freeze everyone in place out of fear. Construction sites must take down the city for HOURS

[@Marcmb]

Haha! I guess some people are genuinely scared of those constructions. Unnaturally effective in the PAYDAY universe though :p

[@Gigachad-yx4mw]

I like your ideas, keep it going.

[@Marcmb]

Thanks a lot GIGACHAD! Glad you liked this one. I'll do my best to keep it up!

[@KawafujiSoraza]

What I know from go bank is if you keep running the mission. That bitch will keep sending the gen sec to check. At that time you will see 2 car outside the road.

[@KawafujiSoraza]

In overkill's logic. If you meet some rare situation ,they design to make you fail (which is impossible to finished). Because the others(most) situation will make game work normally.

[@seresrobertwoodoo2451]

i remember getting this run when i had like 20 hours in the game and panicing and being confused about how to do this mission in stealth... after 6 years now i know that my first ever stealth run on it was really unlucky (or lucky if u want to see it that way)

[@Marcmb]

Haha wow! I would say lucky for sure: it's such a rare combined event, and a very nice experience to have. Of course very unlikely to succeed at that point in your criminal career, but still a great experience :p

[@cradleofgoth]

"Long ago, when I was infamy 233" Fuck me...

[@Marcmb]

Hahah! Nowadays I'm up to Infamy 496, and very sad that the end is getting closer... :(

[@brylythhighlights4335]

Marcmb has never completed GO Bank on Mayhem!

[@Marcmb]

Well spotted! Haha most of my completions are either Death Sentence (the only difficulty I play nowadays) or Death Wish, before the DS patch came out :D

[@VOZmonsoon]

Amazing. Incredibly satisfying to watch

[@Marcmb]

That's great to hear vsymesrain, much appreciated! Thank you very much :)

[@MattyEvan]

I went through Framing Frame so many times Solo Stealth. Got to a point where I had the 6th guard in day 1 roaming around while the security door was still closed and the other guards were dealt with. Sometimes I can get last couple paintings, but he usually sees the one guard cuffed. It gets annoying but I learned if you take out the four roamers first and leave the desk guard alone. That 6th guard does not show, which saves me time on my runs.

[@chibisayori20]

Good to know, i mean desk guard is stationary anyway

[@MattyEvan]

@@chibisayori20 Exactly my thought once I figured it out, haha.

[@chibisayori20]

@@MattyEvan Yeah lol.

[@Marcmb]

Interesting info Matt! Personally I've always finished DAY1 shortly before the bonus guard has a chance to appear, so I've never noticed this... I might look into these alternatives if they ever increase the difficulty!

[@MattyEvan]

@@Marcmb Of course! Always love to help fellow heisters anyway I can haha. Been playing Payday ever since I first saw its release.

[@Wowkanye]

I am so glad that I have silent assassin. This heist is a nightmare solo when the gensec guys come, thanks to Silent Assassin, I don’t need to worry about pagers when I have to land a collateral

[@Marcmb]

Hey again Wowkanye! With some mods there are definitely more ways to deal with this yup. It's a fun way to get gameplay variety, although even without mods there are always tricks to save the run!

[@jojosans5849]

infamy 233? my man has a shit load of free time

[@Marcmb]

Facts haha! And this is a very old video too. My infamy has gotten much higher since then :p

[@aidan_hiatt]

I was today years old when I realized you can shoot the driver seat window of the van to throw bags in it...

[@Marcmb]

Yup! Very cool trick. Credit to Levi Barber who found it while speedrunning :D

[@kitandrei]

Ah yes i will be ready when this happens in a 0,3% chance run haha

[@Marcmb]

Hahaha exactly! If this ever ever happens, definitely remember this. But the chance is literally lower than the open vault variation, so very unlikely to happen :p

[@kennytran1308]

7:31 Is that a part of the vanilla game? I've never heard that line before, it's hilarious!

[@Marcmb]

Yup 100% vanilla hahaha! I think at some point they had an open contest where people could send their lines, and some of them are great. This one is very rare, and it's one of my favorites! :D

[@Okusar]

Out of the hundreds of times I've played GO Bank I've never heard it either.

[@varsik289]

Heard it a couple times alredy

[@jange8782]

Huh I thought it was instant failure if you mess up with the code! What a interesting heist!!

[@Marcmb]

Interesting thought Jang! My old crew used to fail the codes ALL THE TIME so I learnt very quickly that the punishment is her sending the guards haha :D

[@fightydragon3287]

They should have a loud heist kinda like this, with extra stuff to juggle, and I dont mean more drills, or more electrical boxes with a time lock, I mean you have a uninterruptible task that takes a few mins, all while racing across the map to fix things that are all time and chance based, not cop hit thing=thing break, cop swarm=thing never get fixed for long

[@Marcmb]

I absolutely agree! I think that a loud heist with more side objectives and constant points of no return (i.e., time limits to complete tasks one after the other) would be a very interesting concept. Perhaps for PAYDAY3!

[@fightydragon3287]

@@Marcmb Stealth has a lot of mechanics in place to keep it entertaining, not just wait for drill, move, wait, move, but I find the constant grind on loud of wait, kill, move, also boring sometimes

[@Faby__]

Never thought this game was still watched by these amount of people. I stopped playing this game months ago cuz I don't have Ps plus anymore

[@Marcmb]

Hey Faby! Indeed, the community on PC still has many players, with a daily player count of 30K to 50K online players. Unfortunately I don't know how active the community is on console, but I do know that it's smaller compared to PC :(

[@nugenplayer2219]

I've been loving the content and I'd love to see more, I was wondering if you could make a DLC recommendation? Which ones are good to get or must haves and so on.

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much Nugenplayer! Glad to hear you've been enjoying the content :) I had not considered making DLC recommendations, but that's actually a great suggestion! In the near future I'll make a video recommending some great DLC for stealth in general, and ECM rushing. In the context of stealth, some recent ones like Black Cat and Mountain Master are amazing. The old classics (Big Bank, The Diamond...) are great too, but those are already included in the Ultimate Edition, which is definitely a good purchase when it goes on sale!

[@nugenplayer2219]

@@Marcmb Thanks for the recommendations! I'm looking forward to the next video!

[@RubyX184]

I fell asleep while watching Thank you

[@Marcmb]

Oooh that's great to hear Icy! Sometimes, something about the pace of the video, or the BGM, just makes it very relaxing and allows you to fall asleep. For those days when you might be struggling to get some sleep, hopefully some of my videos can help with that! :D

[@prestongray460]

i remember something sort of the same once got 5 pagers on jewerly store normally there is always 4 gaurds never seen this happen before or again strange payday 2 moment

[@Marcmb]

That definitely can happen yup. For example Ukrainian Job is known for often having more than 4 pager guards. Need to be careful on that heist!

[@ArthurSuen91]

there was a reason why this game called PainDay2 back in the first 2-3ish years among my old clan crews…

[@Marcmb]

Haha I've heard about this one! Very fitting name back then and also now, absolutely agree...

[@varsik289]

Who?

[@TheUpcomingPayday]

7:39 that doesn’t sound very good in my professional expericen

[@Marcmb]

Hahah! That dude is absolutely _crazy_ !

[@exiled_seeker6692]

6:14 Pov:waiting in go-bank

[@Marcmb]

Haha yeah! There's nothing to do while waiting for these things, so players come up with all kinds of things :D

[@mrpenguin8731]

Didn’t even know you could throw bags through the drivers window!

[@Rhazor14]

keep it up man, i love your clean editing.

[@Marcmb]

Thank you very much Agusm! Glad you liked the editing on this one, much appreciated :D

[@minikrimi]

Before I get past the intro I want to say if I remember correctly, you won't get a phonecall if you get the 3% chance. Will edit once I finish the vid Edit: I remembered wrongly lol, it was 100% of not getting guards. Still cool fact for people who doesnt know about it!.

[@Marcmb]

Haha I don't blame you Pyro, for remembering wrong! I had always assumed that the truck spawning negated both the chance of Bain's lies being unsuccessful, and the chance for Hilary to request the codes. It was only when I got this very rare run (0.6%) where she asked for the codes that I started wondering if something like this would be possible :D

[@CalzaTheFox]

You are such a payday nerd Marc. :P

[@Marcmb]

Hahah absolutely, very true :p

[@javgarag]

Helmut still goated

[@Marcmb]

Helmut the GOAT 🐐

[@shinyrayquaza9]

psa, cleanup costs for civs are nothing you can just kill them if you don't have enough ties unless you plan on going loud after stealth fails

[@Marcmb]

Very true Rayquaza! Although I do feel like it's more professional to complete the heists in pacifist mode in general (especially for the civs), so I tend to kill as little civs as possible :p

[@thefirstjim]

3:00 after playing so much payday, i dont expect it to work anymore. im more surprised when it actually does

[@Marcmb]

Hahaha! At this point it's part of the charm of the game: some things work, and other things are completely broken... and that's part of why we love it :D

[@thefirstjim]

@@Marcmb for sure

[@Neves7561]

The fuck i had no idea that an armored truck can even spawn

[@Marcmb]

Haha yup! Only 3% chance though, so even after a few runs it's normal to not have seen it!

[@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers]

Reload until you get the the open vault, that's the best option

[@Marcmb]

Haha that's one way to beat the heist, for sure! I personally wouldn't be able to do it, because the chance is so low (1%) and you spend so much time just looking at loading screens...

[@HanniSeidenba0525]

I lost count how many time I failed and succeed GO Bank, but that 3% truck has never showed up to me. Weird.

[@Marcmb]

Haha unlucky! For me it's also quite rare (but when it spawns, it's a bit of a disappointment... don't ask why!), so perhaps it's slightly lower than 3% on the current update. Who knows!

[@ITechHero]

Okay, before i watch past the first 54 seconds. I know it can happen, it happened on my best solo stealth run of this map to date. However the game was way way way different back in the earlier days. So i have no clue about it now.

[@Marcmb]

Ouchhh hahaha that's a shame! Very unique way to fail the heist at least, which is better than failing it some other way... And indeed it does still happen nowadays, very cool to see :D

[@DarkTalion]

A few months ago i have had 3 guards in bank and two arrive in car And the two guards did not have a pager

[@Marcmb]

Hey DarkTalion! Maybe your host was using Silent Assassin? The two guards from the car (wearing red shirts) always have pagers, on all difficulties.

[@christianlandbo4625]

now you made me curious, this is the one with the blackmailer correct, I don't have a lot of experience on GO bank, but theoretically is it possible to get all 6 pager guards and then get blackmailer?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Christian! That's a very good point actually. Just as you say, this is the heist with the blackmailer, and his appearance is just a chance that you get when you pick up the phone before the vault opens... So technically, that should be possible as well :D

[@GalaxyPixelZ]

I blame helmut for the juggle blunder!!

[@Marcmb]

:D I'm not gonna point any fingers! It was a good clip anyway :p plus we learnt that the "not counting towards pager limit" thing was a myth!

[@hegyak]

RNG Mod is SO much fun. Get whatever you want. Take THAT RNG! And those Achievements are Mine now.

[@Marcmb]

Pretty much yup! Really fun and really useful. For regular gameplay I prefer all the RNG variations, but when I want to explore something very rare, the mod is a godsend!

[@DudleyKetsukane]

7:54 YOU CAN SECURE BAGS THROUGH THE FRONTSEAT WINDOWS HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[@Marcmb]

Yes! A very nice timesave on GO Bank :D Full credit to Levi Barber, who showcased it on his speedrun some years ago!

[@DudleyKetsukane]

@@Marcmb Are there any other levels where you can do this or is it only go bank

[@meto65]

Hello, do you have any plans for making solo infamy guide?

[@Marcmb]

Hey meto! Definitely planned yup. I was going to start publishing it at the end of August, but my schedule got really chaotic and I've been low on time lately. Hopefully soon: stay tuned!

[@Rae-Rudi2357]

Ah the only stealth heist I never play... cause solo, have no payday friends 🙃

[@Marcmb]

Aww... it's a nice experience to play it solo, but still a bit sad :( If you would like to play some co-op, make sure to join our Steam group! It's on the video description :D

[@Rae-Rudi2357]

@@Marcmb overall I don't mind solo payday (depending on who you play with, solo is sometimes easier anyway + online with randoms has the risk of other players getting angry over nothing and kicking you instantly... or right before the end of the heist, always fun -_-) but go bank just stresses me out with the phone and the lasers XD so I only play it loud. I have no idea how steam groups work since I've never really looked at all that but I'll join! Might be fun to get back into some online gameplay (and payday in general cause I shouldn't let 1200+ hours of experience go to waste... not until payday 3 comes out)

[@ericneuens]

Wait, is GO bank really so important that they HAVE to send the army?

[@Marcmb]

The common theory among the community is that the army are just a bunch of mass-produced clones, so that's why they can afford to mindlessly send so many, to any of the heists :p

[@ericneuens]

@@Marcmb But isn't the Army and the swat teams two different things?

[@Marcmb]

@@ericneuens Hmmm that I do not know, sorry! :(

[@schlop1771]

This is my first time hearing about the double juggle trick, what does that do?

[@Marcmb]

Hey azzoriff! A simple "pager juggle" can be done by 2 heisters simply taking turns answering a pager. A "double juggle" is a slight variation where 3 heisters juggle 2 pagers at the same time. They still have to take turns, but also every time someone takes over the pager for you, you have to run to the other pager to take over for the other juggler. Same concept, but a bit more complex! If you have 4 heisters actively juggling, you can simply have 2 regular pager juggles (with 2 heisters on each pager), which is always easier :p

[@legit6353]

the endless civs is not totally correct they spawn endlessly but they also have limit amount of civs at same time

[@Marcmb]

Hey legit! I've never checked how far it can go, but for the purposes of making a choice between tying individual civs or controlling the entire map, assuming they are endless is the superior choice I would say!

[@varsik289]

Well, yeah, otherwise the game will crash...

[@hanasong8030]

thanks for great contents!!

[@Marcmb]

Glad you're liking it Hana, thank you! :)

[@angzarrpsyco]

Question, how do you juggle pagers? Cause I thought if you stop doing the pager it auto counts as you missing the pager??

[@Marcmb]

Hey Angzarr! It's true that it auto-fails if you cancel the answer, but there is an exception if another heister has the same pager answer in progress. I have a detailed tutorial here: hope this helps! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrNZ2mOoZaEgdU

[@angzarrpsyco]

@@Marcmb Oh now that is interesting! I'm glad they have that safe guard in place cause I could see 2 people doing a pager at the same time, one guy saying he's got it and the other guy stops to go do something. Doubt the devs expected that safe guard to become a tool lol

[@WespectRamen]

Just wondering, but why are you periodically sawing stuff?

[@Marcmb]

Good question WespectRamen! I have a skill called _Stockholm Syndrome_ which causes civilians to be intimidated by noise that I make. Thus, by simply sawing anything periodically, I generate a noise with a range of 75m that keeps civilians intimidated for around ~45s. Very useful for this map, and other control heists!

[@WespectRamen]

@@Marcmb ohh so thats how that perk works! I was wondering why ppl were screaming when i would saw open things. I thought by noise, it meant just shouting. Thank you for the clarification :)

[@Marcmb]

@@WespectRamen No problem! Glad I could clear that up. Enjoy the new knowledge :)

[@AlfieAlfredo]

Do you have Hoxhud installed? I thought it was banned a long time ago.

[@Marcmb]

Hey TimTwo! HoxHUD wasn't exactly banned, but it stopped being developed/updated a loooong time ago. However, the mod that I use for those features is actually PocoHUD3. In the video description I have a link to my modding video, where you can find the download links, the install instructions, and everything like that!

[@ShadowMokujin]

This happened in many updates of the game this isn't as rare as you think

[@Marcmb]

Absolutely yeah! This has been possible ever since the heist was released, so it's not something new or anything. It's just very rare because it's overall a 0.6% chance, which is even rarer than the free open vault! :D

[@pullup3041]

I never heard of double juggle can you explain to me please ?

[@Marcmb]

Hey pullup! A simple "pager juggle" can be done by 2 heisters simply taking turns answering a pager. A "double juggle" is a slight variation where 3 heisters juggle 2 pagers at the same time. They still have to take turns, but also every time someone takes over the pager for you, you have to run to the other pager to take over for the other juggler. Same concept, but a bit more complex! If you have 4 heisters actively juggling, you can simply have 2 regular pager juggles (with 2 heisters on each pager), which is always easier :p You can see a better example here, where we only had a 3-man crew and I was part of the double-juggle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGOcmXmXaLudhJY

[@pullup3041]

@@Marcmb Wow thank's it's really tricky x)

[@Marcmb]

@@pullup3041 It's definitely trickier than regular juggling, yup! Very satisfying when you have a crew that can pull it off :D

[@Waffles_Syrup]

I only clicked because the title is a jerma quote.

[@Marcmb]

Oooh is it? I had no idea! Thanks for the new knowledge :p

[@thesong7877]

I watched this just because I didn't know of any PD2 myths. I thought it would cover more than one. ...double juggling really doesn't seem worth the effort.

[@Marcmb]

Hope you enjoyed this particular myth The Song! I have some other ones on a playlist in my channel. Things like whether tapping or holding is better for saws, or jumping vs. walking while carrying heavy bags... I usually do one at a time to focus in-depth on it. And yeah double juggling is a lot of trouble, very easy to mess up even with experienced jugglers :p

[@the_kiler_goose5731]

i found out you can kill the cops threw the wooden fence with a sniper

[@Marcmb]

Very true goose! That's because sniper rifles have "Armor Penetration", which allows bullets to go through thin walls, for example those fences. Shotguns with AP slugs or other weapons with armor penetration would work as well!

[@lowellvillerailfanproductions]

What mode is this where you can see the enemy health

[@Marcmb]

Hey lowell! All that information (enemy health, timers on the top left corner...) is being displayed by my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD. If you're interested, you can find my MODDING VIDEO in the description, which has install instructions, and download links. Hope this helps! :D

[@lowellvillerailfanproductions]

@@Marcmb yes it will I've been getting into payday 2 late and I want a mod to help with health and timers (not that I need it but I would rather have it to give myself a little bit more fun)

[@LessThanExplosive]

What mod did you use to RNG modify the runs?

[@Marcmb]

Hey LessThanExplosive! For this GO Bank video in particular, with the 6-pager project, the mod used was "RNG Modifier".

[@LessThanExplosive]

​@Marcmb Can you share a link to the mod?

[@Siku_F]

Thaires a chanse on go bank where a cop is refuling gas so thats like 7 pagers

[@Marcmb]

True true! Technically an additional 2 cops, although they are blue so no pagers. It's nice to think about the scenario to get as many as possible though :D

[@Siku_F]

I dont eaven play payday 2 i just know game makanics

[@Marcmb]

@@Siku_F Ooh interesting! That's quite an unusual chance for the bonus cops, so it's actually surprising that you knew about it! Very nice :D

[@chec6330]

Why can't they include all the content that is even on PCs for the consoles because technically it's unfair

[@Marcmb]

Hey chec! It's a bit unfair yup, but most importantly it's a shame for all the console players that are missing out on this amazing content, new heists and weapons... Unfortunately all console versions got left behind yeah :( PS3, Xbox, PS4, Xbox One, Switch... last year they released a statement saying that it would be impossible to make any further DLC for consoles (confirming this is going to be their state forever because of the engine limitations), so I'm just hoping they will do better with PAYDAY 3 because the engine issues will be gone (now using Unreal Engine 4)...

[@chec6330]

@@Marcmb okay then can you answer one question for me this has been puzzling me for years if we take the same software that is on the X1 or better software that's on the new series x that I haven't gotten yet why can't they make the same specifications and performance capabilities as a PC so for a console so that the content like this can be eligible for all platforms

[@varsik289]

The game can barely even run properly on PC, no wonder why they didnt bother with console + console version barely had ppl to begin with... Idk why overkill bothered to make the game for the switch (the entire reason of why the hacker perk exists lol)

[@Tr_SharpShooter]

I just got the truck also the vault was open dude!! But we were dumbass and couldnt do the heist and restart it second time vault was open again with truck outside and we failed again

[@Marcmb]

Wow twice in a row open vault, that is insane! The fact that you failed both is a shame though haha, but better luck next time!

[@reniaz]

Hey marcmb, what's that mod you have in the top left that shows what u collected? I cant find it myself

[@PoliceArmoured]

PocoHUD

[@reniaz]

@@PoliceArmoured i have it but dont have that blue thing in the top left that shows stuff u done and how much money / exp u get

[@PoliceArmoured]

@@reniaz oh, it's xpnotifer

[@reniaz]

@@PoliceArmoured ty so much

[@Marcmb]

Hey zain! Sorry for the late response. As *@Police Armoured* (thanks for helping him!) replied before me, that is indeed a derivative of XP Notifier - that one can be found on the Modworkshop with this exact name (and it serves the same purpose), but the one I use is not available anywhere for direct download and is one that was created by Frankelstner, the author of The Long Guide. There are public downloads for easier alternatives (such as XP Notifier), but if you want this one specifically, the instructions to set it up can be found here, enjoy and hope this helps! steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/

[@kirkpreston4864]

What’s the music around 1:35

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Pretty sure it's the stealth theme for Trailblazers the music that came with the midland ranch.

[@Marcmb]

Hey Kirk! It's just as *@Fiyah* replied before me: it's the original song that came with the recent Midland Ranch, the title is Trailblazers :)

[@Local_Lad]

I think that the gensec truck is the 2 possible guards, so you cannot get 6 pagers, so the gensec call is understanding when they are there.

[@Marcmb]

That's what I thought as well cuboid, it's a very reasonable guess! Turns out I was wrong 20% of the time though :p

[@bekogme]

just a small ass bank why they send a lot of guard even army in loud

[@Marcmb]

Even worse for early heists like Nightclub or Four Stores... PAYDAY logic I guess!

[@z123zocker2]

whats double juggling

[@Marcmb]

Hey zocker! It's a short term for "juggling two pagers simultaneously" (I try to keep my video sentences short to make the reading less heavy). Basically 2 heisters can juggle 1 pager (the usual method), 3 heisters can juggle 2, and 4 heisters can juggle 3. Very good for some advanced cheese strategies!

[@z123zocker2]

@@Marcmb thanks

[@pain_rain609]

I have never known any of this from doing pubs. I would never be able to stealth it properly without having others who had no idea or someone else being discreetly aware of the details and not teaching me.

[@Marcmb]

Understandable pain_rain! This is a very rare combination of events, so it's very hard to ever see it in a pub game. Also as you say there's heisters of very different levels in public games, so you never know what you're gonna get...

[@matteoserao728]

Is go back still avaliable on PS4?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Matteo! GO Bank unfortunately is not available on console :( PC only since it's a collab with Valve from Steam...

[@jakecoolguy1234]

how did you get the saw

[@Marcmb]

Hey Jake! In old versions of the game, you used to need some skills to even buy it. Nowadays, at Level 20-something you can just go to weapons store, and buy it as a primary weapon.

[@jakecoolguy1234]

@@Marcmb alright

[@lilducky3712]

hey there pal long time no see

[@Marcmb]

It's been a looong while for sure Ducky! Thanks for dropping by, and hope you enjoyed this one :D

[@lilducky3712]

@@Marcmb alrighty, thank :D

[@pterodactylwarrior7208]

What mission is this never seen this map

[@Marcmb]

Hey Pterodactyl! Sorry for the late response. This map is called GO Bank, but it's a collaboration with Valve, so it's only available on PC...

[@Noclip.]

What gun is that (not the saw)

[@Marcmb]

Hey Noclip! That is the Locomotive 12G, a very useful stealth shotgun :) I use it pretty much all the time while playing stealth!

[@Noclip.]

@@Marcmb thanks

[@Sareeeek]

what you have Hox hud ??

[@Marcmb]

Hey Sarek! HoxHUD unfortunately stopped getting updates a few years ago... but this is quite similar in some aspects, called PocoHUD. If you're interested in my mods (and download links, install instructions...) I have a video with all that in the video description!

[@mr_shadow0-1]

Gensec truck are useless, it’s just instant cash

[@Marcmb]

That is correct yup! I believe that is what I said either on this video, or the GO Bank solo stealth guide (all loose cash, no XP, useless).

[@tombom1843]

I don’t play payday what’s a pager

[@Marcmb]

Hey Tombom! In PAYDAY 2, every time you take out a guard (by either killing them, or dominating them), you get a call from the security operator and you have to pick it up within 12s (this is what we call "pagers") or he sounds the alarm. You can only answer a maximum of 4 pagers, as the 5th one is too suspicious and he raises the alarm anyway. Hope that clears it up! :)

[@alt1763]

wtf was that at 7:38?

[@Marcmb]

Hahaha! Just one of the voicelines that you can get when you pick up the phone. Easily one of the best ones I've heard! Very very rare though :D

[@Samiska19]

what hub is that?

[@Marcmb]

Hey Samiska! Sorry for the late response. That's PocoHUD3, and I have a video in the description that lists all my mods with install instructions and download links. Hope that helps! :D

[@Samiska19]

@@Marcmb already foud it but still thanks

[@lolulysse0076]

7:25 what??? XDDDD

[@Marcmb]

Haha yep! One of the best phone quotes in the entire heist, very rare though :p

[@lolulysse0076]

@@Marcmb it feels very out of here

[@Christian_1to1]

Why does pc get maps and dlc, and console players get nothing 🫤 but the old dlcs

[@Marcmb]

Very unfortunate yup :( Sadly the console versions are very outdated, and the devs have confirmed they are never going to catch up, since they moved on to PAYDAY 3...

[@Christian_1to1]

@Marcmb at least update it so we can have gun skins 🫠

[@gregfunclubofficial943]

what a tittle XDD

[@Marcmb]

Hahaha :D Glad you liked the title, Greg!

[@ItalianRetroGuy]

What the fuck do you mean "what if" We always had that happen back in my crew wtf

[@sullnaar2750]

it hapend to me once - i f*d it up :(

[@Marcmb]

:D Lucky! I had to try so many times to finally get it... really cool experience!