What Happens if you KILL EVERY FAMILY MEMBER?

This is the sordid story of Murdering the ENTIRE DRACONIS Bloodline & exploring what happens after each family member has been killed?
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[@arifhossain9751]

my theory is it was Lucian himself that ordered the hit on the Draconis family. He just wanted a cushy little farmhouse to hang his cloak.

[@MLBeaton]

LaChance does 'Hang out' here... I hear his house parties are murder... The 'Spill your guts type'.... Start in Bruma and wake up in Bravil next to some 'Lucky lady' who is old enough to be your mother!

[@fordz3781]

I actually have another theory. I was thinking there's another family member and maybe had the others killed for some inheritance.

[@CountessKek]

Or his body😂😂

[@Nathan_Coley]

And he likes 🍎🤣

[@stebbenwolfe]

It just occurred to me that this whole quest was simply meant to be foreshadowing for what was going to happen next with the members of the Black Hand and their mother.

[@justinnyugen7015]

I never thought of it that way 😮 kinda like how Whodunit is the blueprint for the cleansing ritual

[@doobsthegr8]

Why Oblivion is probably the greatest ES game in terms of storytelling. In my opinion.

[@sylviabennan]

Weird story: on my first ever playthrough, not even three hours into the game I decided to break into a house in the imperial city (out of curiosity of course)... I eventually went down to the basement and met none other than Matthias Draconis, just randomly wandering around in the basement. I struck up a conversation with him and apparently his disposition towards me was low because he not only snorted but also mocked me. I was so offended I waited for him to turn around and bashed him with a war hammer. I think it only took one hit. Ironically, the infamous "your actions have been witnessed by forces unknown" prompt came up and I had no clue what the dark brotherhood was at the time, but later on I cracked up when I saw his name on the list. "already taken care of."

[@KoongYe]

I always found it funny how Peronnia thought it would be a good idea to use a gift delivery service for a daughter who is living in the wild cave with a bunch of wild animals all of which will attack anyone on sight XD. Good that it was a psychopathic assassin who took on the task.

[@MLBeaton]

I would expect everyone to employ 100% chameleon... Every player does

[@meenooshh]

is there any chance that Lucien LaChance might actually be one of the Draconis Children? The night mother in lore has five children, and while you take out Perennia and her four children in this quest, I found it odd that Lucien hides out in Applewatch for the last parts of the Dark Brotherhood quests. He's an imperial, like most of the rest of the family, and his subsequent fate would complete the night mother's story with the Draconis family if so. I could be way off but the Draconis family dead drop is the hit before the orders start getting switched by the traitor in the Black Hand, which makes it even more interesting if Lucien was somehow related.

[@blonde-eyed-blueondie]

very nice thought What catch my attention is how Perennia say "By Mephala not that" when she talk about her daughter. Kind of weird to say Mephala instead of any Divine like most NPCs

[@kingjamization]

I never thought of it. The theory makes alot of sense tbh

[@DarkLOREDash]

I love this! The whole thing is...strange. I do believe Lucien has a brother who resides in Chorrol & Lachance is a Breton name (from memory) anyway, I may cover this theory for the next video as I am still intrigued by the whole family dynamic. www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/qniy97/who_wanted_the_draconis_family_dead_jaccuse/

[@Jiggerjaw]

The enraged Andreas with the neutral face is hilarious. I love Oblivion for shit like this, it's so charming.

[@Jiggerjaw]

And the way the guards lay into Caelia because of her "frenzy" 🤣🤣 Great vid as always man.

[@DarkLOREDash]

@@Jiggerjaw Thank you! Do you know I was so scared to show Andreas like that? Oblivion's facial rigging struggles with laughter or screaming & I feel like it may be off-putting. Good to know people put it down to the charm of the game.

[@KoongYe]

11:38 Holy... that shot though. What a beautiful long shot! It should be recorded on The Gwinas Tamriel Records.

[@haveyoumettess]

The Gwinas Scroll of Nirn Records

[@pelinalwhitestrake7352]

The Gwinas Tome of Nirn Records

[@ben7607]

The Gwinas Spell of Nirn Records

[@DerIrreLeWand]

The elder scroll of gwinas nirn records

[@XShaneX19]

The black hand quests are a perfect reminder that we are working for an evil assassin cult. The warm family atmosphere at the sanctuary and the targets who often have enough clues that they kinda deserved their fate may dull that sense of evil after a while.

[@CatchTheMarmosets]

Nah, a lot of the people you kill are straight up for the contractors benefit. Baelin for example was completely innocent and murdered so Caenlin, his nephew could inherit his house.

[@shiro_the_trap2513]

Perennia's ghost is actually levelled, so if you're high enough level she'll turn into a Wratih of some variety. Was a real nasty surprise the first time I went back there and got jumped by a Gloom Wraith from behind

[@springheeljak145]

One theory I've read is that Perennia herself called the hit and might even be the next Night Mother (the one we see in Skyrim). The major clue is that she says "by Mephala", and the gravestones read like a chiding mother wrote them.

[@twinzzlers]

That doesn't explain why kills you though or panics when you kill them, or that the Nightmother in Skyrim is the same one from Oblivion. Fun theory though

[@hawkerhellfire9152]

So..... how many attempts did that sniping shot take?

[@herrikudo]

Seriously.... that was clean

[@shelbycoffey7441]

I have loved watching you play through the dark brotherhood so thoroughly! After playing it for years it’s a lot of fun to see things I’ve never noticed or had happen before.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you! I too am so enamored by the nuances, I miss (such as the gossip after certain members deaths)

[@PLSE_SND_BY_]

@@DarkLOREDash I agree man these are such a cool idea! Its a cool way of revisiting oblivion and the way you narrate your own character makes it feel almost episodic. Like I'm watching a show. Love it. Any chance you'll do the thieves guild quest line?

[@griffinzink698]

I honestly expected there to be unique dialogue if you tried to bring the children the gifts the mother asks you to get them. They won’t even take them!

[@hellodarkness5644]

Dead drop orders, aka we can't afford to keep paying this amazing voice actor

[@DarkLOREDash]

😂 I can only do a Nord so, I try and imitate Wes. Its funny, he told me once in a voice acting class, how he channels lucien. So, I try do the same 😅

[@herrikudo]

This one i always wondered about, could never figure out who ordered it. Was literally talking to my wife about how i was looking forward to this one.

[@xRandomCityx]

How big is your wife

[@TheLadyLiddell]

This lady sure is asking for a lot of fancy, expensive sounding gifts for only giving us 100 gold.

[@stevietully]

If you ever step into the shivering isles and do the hill of suicides, when you enter Cann and go into the Arena Substratum, you'll find skeletons named participants. Some them have notes on them and I think there is more than what is there

[@DarkLOREDash]

Funny you mention it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIicimyYjc-HmZo

[@cil_tv]

Holy shit, I didn’t even know arrows went that long of a distance 😂 That was an amazing snipe!

[@JustBooker]

I really enjoyed your voice acting this time around! I mean I always do, but the way you voiced the lady's letter was so joyful and motherly, and it paired perfectly with the dark subject paired with it. Well done as always!

[@DarkLOREDash]

Oh thank you! You know its weird trying to picture my Grandma talking to me & imitating it. We are very blessed for mother figures.

[@Great_White_Shork]

21:30 Sibylla - What's the matter? Getting Tired? Shadowmere - Neigh.

[@Deadaccountant]

I never knew that Matthias Draconis had a "roommate" Collatinus Vedius, I tended to kill him during his nightly stroll home or in Umbacano's basement! I'm glad you go so in depth with grim questlines as I learn a lot of things from you!

[@RDA000]

I always just assumed Mr Draconis wanted revenge for all that child support

[@MoonspiritX]

🔥

[@allenellisdewitt]

22:15 Wait, MEPHALA??? 27:15 and Azura? A family of Daedra worshipers, and openly at that!

[@aqsa4561]

Your channel is the only reason I watch KZbin these days ❤ thanks for continuously providing us with quality content.

[@DarkLOREDash]

Wow, my pleasure. Genuinely!

[@writerlairchannel2636]

KZbin is the platform so you can find completely different things, how can you not find something for yourself?

[@herrikudo]

@@writerlairchannel2636 because youtube deletes tons of videos and censors all creators for arbitrary reasons.

[@writerlairchannel2636]

@@herrikudo and? you saying it like KZbin only have 5 videos on the site

[@taekwongurl]

Same. I'm loyal to a few KZbinrs, but the minute they're gone, so am I.

[@gloomcrawl1325]

Don't even need to watch the video, your wordweaving is amazing!! A true storyteller!

[@metalcann]

Man that snipe was absolutely sick

[@wearytaco1641]

I love watching your videos cause I usually follow the same "moral choices" throughout the playthrough and rarely pick mean or different dialogue options. It's good to see what's on the other side of the choices I'll never make 🤣

[@slimchelmi6940]

some random animal loving dunce: attacks silencer shadowmere: *and I took that personally*

[@iriswinter]

I wonder why the mother mentions Mephala, which seems like a random or out of character being for her to reference like that, and the gravestone for Andreas mentions Azura - rather than any of the Divines. Maybe they were originally going to be a Dunmer family? Or secret Daedra worshippers or something.

[@springheeljak145]

Or she worships Mephala and called the hit on her entire family as a sort of ritual. Mephala is connected to the DB, as the DB is an offshoot of the Morag Tong and the Morag Tong worship Mephala

[@DarkLOREDash]

Great pick up! Check this out. Am thinking of making it into the next video. Lemme know what you think. www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/qniy97/who_wanted_the_draconis_family_dead_jaccuse/ I especially enjoy the theory that she was somehow to become the next embodiment of the Night Mother.

[@iriswinter]

@@DarkLOREDash ooh that’s so cool!! That would make an interesting video. Keep up the great work, I really enjoy listening to you sir!

[@KestrelDC]

Wait… if Sibylla loves animals so much she’s gone to live feral in a cave with wolves and bears…. wouldn’t she find fur blankets horrific to be given? Seems like to her that would be like being given a blanket made of child skin!

[@buhbuhjaychampagne1706]

Love ur brand of storytelling. Keep up the great work!!!!!🤘

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thanks so much!

[@floralpoboop]

even in elder scrolls they use the excuse that someone is resisting arrest to murder them.

[@Ba_Yegu]

I remember role playing the faithful courier, leaving Mrs Draconis well and sound, finding and killing all her children and then returning to tell all of her children are dead, but I can't recall what then happened. Probably nothing special, so I just had to kill her last. A pity, it would've been a nice twist in the story to have a nasty Grande Finale for this evil plot. ☠✋🏿

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

I was always curious about what the story with Mattias Draconis was. Why is he a Breton? Was his mother naughty? How did his dad react when he started speaking with that accent as a child? As we all know, accents are hereditary.

[@glprime2814]

Considering the racial appearances of the children are usually inherited from the mother, I'm guessing it was either the father was the one being unfaithful, or Mathis is/was adopted. Just my guess😆

[@piperbarlow1672]

he has to be adopted, in the elder scrolls lore, in cases of the races of men intermingling, the child will inherit the racial features of the mother

[@EscapeGate]

Applewatch...no idea how that went over my head for so many years lmao

[@DarkLOREDash]

Wait, I don't get it & I feel bad. Except for a Steve Jobs reference. Apple of her eye? Please share!

[@MoonspiritX]

My dude, I am itching for elaboration here. Maybe Dark Lore can use it when he merges the next set of videos.

[@glprime2814]

A quest I had completely forgotten about, until this vid. Can't remember if I knew about the ending fight, though. Good job, on the vid

[@DarkLOREDash]

Thank you!

[@CrimsonCavalierGaming]

11:38 - Bro that shot was something else.

[@katietaylor8314]

Killing that poor dear old lady always makes me feel like such a piece of shit. And yet somehow this quest remains one of the most fun in the game.

[@anthonyortiz350]

I could never do this quest I would immediately give up at the beginning once I talked to the mother!

[@Prince_Smugarina]

Never understood the desire to wipe this family out. I have a feeling a few members of the family were former/current Dark Brotherhood, and Mathieu was just being a d**k to the entire lot of them. The worst part about this quest-line though, was the there was no way to curb the fact you were about to kill MORE of your fellow DB members. After J'Ghasta alone it was obvious you were killing DB members. If you talked to him(suggesting you actually did, and didn't just snipe and kill while he slept) he practically admits he's also DB, without explicitly stating. You: "*Mention's Sithis*" J'Ghasta: "Sithis? What is this treachery? Who sent you? I don't know who is behind this outrage, but I will have blood! To the Void with you, assassin!" Like, I as the player immediately figured it out, and the simple fact he had DB regalia in a chest only cemented it. But there was simply no alternative and it pisses me off when I think about it. Otherwise a magically fun quest-line.

[@Deathly_Visage]

Hmm, interesting take... What makes you think part of the Draconis family may have been former Dark Brotherhood? (If I understand you correctly). I think there's a difference between the contracts Lucien gave you and the ones the traitor gave you while using Lucien's name. I'll reference TES2: Daggerfall here for an example. Now, in that game, there is no Dark Brotherhood storyline. It's all randomly generated, with most of it being "go to X dungeon and kill Y person" However, they do offer a sorta "background" as to why you're being sent on the contract, with a few of these reasons being something like executing a traitor, finding and executing a member who failed in an assignment, and finding an possibly executing a member with an unauthorized absence since the Dark Brotherhood prides itself on knowing where its members are at all times. Estranged family members have to dealt with, so if some of the Draconis family was former DB, then their estrangment might be why Lucien ordered you to kill them. However, when it comes to the traitor who posed as Lucien after that particular contract, he had you purposely target current active members. So, I guess while you're killing family members (former or current) the motives are different: one being to protect to the DB's security so estranged members don't rattle on about it. And the other being to dismantle the DB from the inside.

[@Prince_Smugarina]

@@Deathly_Visage Oh, I'm just commenting a theory. I have no clue if any were current or former members. The theory came to mind, cause I found it just bizarre that J'Ghasta(the first confirmed DB member) would have any inkling someone was after his life, less Mathieu had enough of an idea that J'Ghasta wouldn't bother to alert the guard, since it could risk his existence as an assassin being exposed. Beyond that, the rest of my post was lamenting we couldn't steer the course of the damn story, seeing as we the players can sus the truth we were being tricked.

[@iriswinter]

This contract is actually from Lucien. The only contracts you genuinely get from him are the necromancer and this one. After this is when the false contracts from Mathieu start.

[@Prince_Smugarina]

@@iriswinter Ok? Still bothers me with how plotholey the quest-line became.

[@iriswinter]

@@Prince_Smugarina I mean your comment is speculating about why Mathieu might want them dead, but their deaths weren’t engineered by him. Wasn’t addressing anything about plot holes, just clarifying.

[@Nineball2501]

But what happens to Jake if all the family members are killed and no is left to take care of him.

[@georgemurdock7670]

7:07 is why i never played any dark brotherhood quest in any game 😕

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The player is giving gifts to the children and the mother wants to give a gift to the courier, how nice. Sadly the courier has to decline the offer.

[@imnotcreative2214]

Another day another Septim.

[@Mutepoet379]

27:30 so if Perennia’s spirit attacks you, does that mean that her spirit wasn’t claimed by sithis? Makes you wonder if he really exists…

[@GuardianDarzeit]

24:56 She is just standing there, menacingly !!!

[@theunfortunategeneral]

I feel a little bad for Andreas. Dreaming of running an inn and he picks perhaps the worse place ever. Uphill off-(main)road. In the swamps. On a road that I dont think many people travel.

[@Notimportant959]

I am proud to be here

[@spacellamamk1]

If the mother gives you the list, can you kill the children first and then return to her and let her know?

[@Bobbybobbeh]

Were a murderer, not a monster. Very apropos. Just wish we could take that sweet baby Jake back with us.

[@landoncube769]

I love your characters name. Chartooga😂😂

[@CountessKek]

Hate to argue with you Dash- but i always get Caelia while she has lunch, daily, in the inn owned by the khajiit sisters. I think it's btw 12- 1 pm she sits in the hall upstairs, no one else around- easy peasy lemon squeezy!❤

[@DarkLOREDash]

Ha, very nice! I remember finding her there a few times but it never occured to me to clip her during lunch :)

[@CountessKek]

@@DarkLOREDash so peaceful sitting there munching away😆😆❤️

[@T1ttyLedz]

What would've been good for this quest (I hope skyblivion adds something like this) Is the ability to buy a special gift for them before killing them Mattys chest plate gives him negative stat points making him a one hit kill Andy buy a glass with a bottle of extremely rare wine with a pinch of nightshade Sibby buy fur blankets with a hidden pocket for maddening meat, makes all snimals kill her )while she sleeps if yu have high enough sneak or high disposition can use this) K poisonous flowers, chocolates or something similar to the frenzie This couldv added collectable "Damaged chest plate" "Broken poisoned glass" "Torn rugs n pets" "Partially eaten poisonous chocolates wit deadly nightshade" With skyrims farms and extra housing dlc it makes me hope that we get more quest based housing so we can buy property of those we've killed and turn it to our own profit Renting it, hiring people to work the land or the bar and so on

[@cartoonhistory353]

Happy my notifications finally worked I love the content I’m 20 bout to be 21 I remember playing oblivion and reading about Skyrim on gameinformer

[@brothers_of_nod]

No one to get revenge if you wipe out the whole bloodline.

[@613aristocrat]

I would be surprised if there wasn't a mod making Applewatch look like an Apple Watch.

[@ddohartaigh9687]

dang Dash, that was some quality marksman shooting 😙👌🏻

[@DarkLOREDash]

Only 7(ish) tries 😂

[@giant4331]

Can I just say, what a hell of a shot during this one. How many times it take to time that? Even if more than one, still. 12:00

[@DarkLOREDash]

Heya, cheers! I think it was about 7. I then tried to do it without the cross-hairs but gave up 🤣

[@eleanorburns8686]

I was slightly disappointed how little opportunity for poisoned apple hits there was with this family, as only Matthias seems to take any time out of his schedule to eat, and does it in public: a fact which requires clearing the Bloated Float tavern deck of every single edible (which I'll assume the owners let me do for having saved their arses from the pirates) and carefully awaiting the moment to prime a table with a poisoned apple to avoid offing random hungry NPCs. Still, the moment it finally worked and the poor bugger slumped dead on a bench next to the supremely indifferent Captain Carmalo Truiand was classic Oblivion hilarity.

[@williambrown8686]

Is it possible to get the list kill the children and save the mother for last?

[@DarkLOREDash]

Yeah, I believe you can pick pocket it. But you could theoretically kill them all pre meeting her. Shit, if you killed them ALL the quest would simply conclude as soon as she died & direct you to the next dead drop.

[@clankbeast482]

How do you get the camera to follow the arrow in-flight?

[@BarnabusBarbarossa]

Isn't it normally impossible to use Frenzy on a guard? I was under the impression that you couldn't kill Caelia that way.

[@logangustavson]

Frenzy works on guards, maybe you weren't at 100% spell effectiveness when you casted it or your spell wasn't leveled enough

[@MoonspiritX]

Too bad you can't summon the old hag if you beat her.

[@vindurza]

She was always my first murder to get into the dark brotherhood cause she is in the middle of nowhere

[@CatchTheMarmosets]

You can kill her before the quest? Ive just been killing hircine worshippers

[@XxiLove_NoodLesxX]

Can everyone just agree Oblivion is better then Skyrim. It just is I’m telling u

[@613aristocrat]

What happens if you deliver the gifts? Nothing? You did accept money to deliver them, and nothing precludes delivering and then killing.

[@logangustavson]

How would you deliver an engraved set of armor?

[@Jarl3169]

"Necronancer" 😁 lol

[@ashwolf2006]

this is the sole reason i will never join the DB in oblivion.

[@elimendez6164]

Jake’s howl 😢

[@ondolemarthejusticiar]

Not enough thalmor in this game

[@hurricanelily_ja]

Great voice acting as always! Btw, are there any special interactions if you decide to kill Perennia after her children?

[@wahatda8944]

24:04 Me when I see a furry walk his limping dog (his legs look ok):

[@dragonfire481]

We are going to hell for this one.

[@d3dhook]

"RACONIS" -> "DRACONIS" in the description. Thanks for the content, looking forward to watching!

[@DrNatemiester]

Sixth!!

[@calvinyazzie3338]

"What happens if you kill every member?" They ratio you

[@SuperLumianaire]

Hell yes!

[@CanadianBear47]

Cool easter egg

[@s03ran]

I would have loved it so much, if when you killed lucien and didn't join the DB there would be a new rumor that directed you to the mother. For a "good playtrough" it would be so cool to make those deliveries, especially because the mother clearly thought about the individual gifts for her children a long time, 🪹