What Happens When The Winning Stops

[@SomethingDifferentFilms]

Thank you for watching my video on the decline of California for normal Californians. If you would like to see a video on how Californian's struggles are changing several U.S regions in a significant way please let me know here.

[@georgel19841]

4.00 were exactly is that place 😊?

[@tobarstep]

_How did California go from this to this_ honestly, it sounds like you could be describing the trajectory of the country as a whole.

[@SomethingDifferentFilms]

Sadly that could be true for lots of places, but California ranks near the top for every problem metric

[@jb94103]

California's size and influence greatly impacts the other 49 states.

[@csaracho2009]

@@tobarstep ...Yes! How could this be possible? kzbin.info/www/bejne/faXNYqinjdZ-pc0si=cfIaAplofD_8fHQu

[@mevans4953]

The economic and social decline of California is sad but ultimately good for normal Americans. It’s an example of what not to do. The problem is the people fleeing the state is taking everyone down with them. (Sudden population increases, political composition changes, massive demographic shifts, housing price spikes)Politicians need to step up and stop accepting refugees into our states or we’ll see the same fate. We need to implement containment and recognize them for the problem they’ve become to normal Americans

[@mariusfacktor3597]

I think your point at the end is the most important. California was largely developed after WW2 and that period ushered in mass suburbanization. Well it turns out this experimental development pattern has a lot of problems. Some of which don't materialize for a generation or two. For instance, zoning codes that don't allow more housing to get built once all the land is developed. Then there are absurdly regressive laws like Prop 13 which gives rich elderly homeowners huge tax breaks at the expense of young homeowners and renters who tend to be poorer.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

This is what happened in Canada but on a national scale. Outside of the few backwater towns, there's no affordable housing across the country.

[@mariusfacktor3597]

@@Peglegkickboxer ^ 100%. Canada has it worse than the US. Same reason though. Look at a single-family zoning map of Vancouver. It's illegal to build low-cost housing in just about the entire city. Luckily BC passed some really good housing bills lately that will forcibly upzone transit corridors.

[@JEK_VaNNNNN]

Detroit and the south eastern region of Michigan as a whole were the first in the entire world to try this suburban car dependant experiment. Ask us how it worked out. We have the worst roads in America for good reason. This level of decay was always going to turn out this way with the path we chose.

[@mariusfacktor3597]

@@JEK_VaNNNNN ^ bingo! Detroit was the first city in the world to embrace the widespread adoption of the automobile and redesign their city for it. It turns out all that new suburban growth was a drain on city resources and all that urban core that they demolished for wider roads was actually paying for everything. Oops. So what does the rest of the country do. They copy Detroit for short term gains and then take it a step further and rip out all their public transit to force everybody to drive, thus putting us in a multi-generation pit of car dependence that we can't escape from.

[@MKJunii]

​@@Peglegkickboxer I bet those 'backwater towns' are actually nice places to buy a house and build a family.

[@magicunicorn6535]

The tech industry almost ruined the Bay Area. Now that lots of them are leaving, those of us who truly love SF are rejoicing.

[@franwex]

I love channels like this that swear that the whole state is this wasteland. 😂

[@csaracho2009]

Right! And there is even people who believe it! Ha ha.

[@Peter-bx7ip]

People will unironically believe that every sidewalk is full of feces in CA.

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

Right

[@weaksause6878]

The problem with California: Near Auborn, people used to swim in the river. It was popular. Then big government came in and spent millions adding crappy parking lots and hiring staff to enforce peasants pay their $10 if they wish to escape the summer heat. I just saw a news article about a week ago that too many people were going down the road and swimming in a different spot so their shutting it down now too.

[@weaksause6878]

Fees

[@papanam4267]

@@weaksause6878 Not fee s but taxes disguised as fees. California is taxing itself out of existence. Thus, the decline.

[@jacobdenis9192]

Yeah they ruined it And now they are leaving

[@AL-lh2ht]

So the majority of Cali, and especially the coastal cities, population are actually increasing.

[@PenguinInguinLodge]

We left because we wanted to own of home. Why settle for a condo in Ontario when I can have a 4 bedroom house in a place like Texas or Vegas? Even for a more liberal person such as myself, Id rather live good in a conservative place than live poorly in a liberal one.

[@kev492001]

So stop voting Democrat it’s a horrible party.

[@jimbobfisher8904]

Yup and Cities like chino hills,diamond bar, Rancho and Claremont are damn near just for rich people now

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@kev492001 yet the economy crash and US goes to war when a republican is president. repblicans are incompetent.

[@ShellymanStudios]

@@AL-lh2ht 2 proxy wars are going on, and the economy is slowing down right now under the Democrat's leadership. Both parties are incompetent.

[@luongo7886]

If you move to a red conservative Republican state, VOTE REPUBLICAN OR STAY IN CA and deal with your mess!!!

[@veramae4098]

Michigan is nice. Look at weather map thought to avoid Chicago problems.

[@jbtechcon7434]

You'd think a Democratic stronghold would be more equitable!

[@Hawka-Loogy]

Equity” really means central planning and control. Communism is alive and well.

[@ShellymanStudios]

Even Chevron HQ is leaving California.

[@diodelvino3048]

Because of taxes, not cause its some wasteland. They were fine for so many years when the state allowed them to make all that revenue, but when theyre asked to pay their fair share its a "problem".

[@steven_dekok]

I grew up in California and still live here - for another 3 years at least while our youngest finishes high school - and then we are OUT OF HERE!!! Things that have risen GREATLY over the past 3 years: homelessness, drug use, crime, human feces on the sidewalks, traffic, taxes, property insurance, property tax, groceries, gas, houses and the list of cons goes on forever. Why should I pay 13% in state income tax and get nothing in return when I could pay less state income tax elsewhere and actually get something in return for my taxes? In MY opinion, the reason this once great state declined is due to the liberal political policies taxed business to death, squeezed them for every dime, and then in return, the businesses had no choice but to move out of state. The current policies also make too much red tape to get anything done here, whether it be starting a new business or building a new home. California has an $800 "tax" on every corporation or LLC that operates within the state. Even if you operate at a loss, you still have to pay that $800 fee. They are anti small business here. There are also a hundred other policies/reasons why this state is declining but to blame it on "rich" corporations sounds like socialism to me, which is one step away from communism. To think otherwise means you swallowed the current administration's narrative and are blind to reality.

[@bonniegaither3994]

Well, you just regurgitated all of the Fox talking points, didn’t you?

[@steven_dekok]

@@bonniegaither3994 You mean facts over feelings? This is based upon MY own firsthand experiences. I'm not a republican and I don't watch fox news. But thanks for assuming. I learned to think on my own a long time ago. Republicans and democrats are just different wings of the same bird. I want fiscal responsibility.

[@Peter-bx7ip]

Feces on the sidewalk is overstated, plus we get a lot of social services and employee benefits compared with those of other states.

[@steven_dekok]

@@Peter-bx7ip "We get"... "employee benefits"? You mean WE pay for it with higher taxes and employers pay higher employment taxes. We definitely DO NOT get enough compared to what we pay for! You can stay here but my family and our businesses are leaving. I want to afford to retire someday. Why should I continue to pay 13% state income tax and have to work until I am 70 when I can retire in 3 years at 58? You do you, bud, I'll do me.

[@relaxedleisure4766]

@@Peter-bx7ip That’s the problem. The state only works well for the ultra rich and the poor.

[@xoxide1017]

I left california in 2018 fall. I was a victim of the typical rich get richer and poor get poorer.

[@peterbathum2775]

Immense wealth disparity was the source of the French Revolution.

[@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp]

Eventually, the lizards may get it back.

[@kendipietro6855]

Let's recap. California lost a half a million residents since 2021. Why that's 125K a year in a state that now has 38.1 million, including some 67K who moved in during 2024. This is a state in decline? Have you looked at West Virginia? How about Mississippi?

[@selfdo]

Many have and are moving to EITHER. Many folks can work where they want, if they need to work at all.

[@funoh1]

Also consider the fact that California has the most desirable natural traits(coast, weather, geography, etc.) for any U.S. state. You have to have an incredibly poorly ran state to mess that up so badly that you lose population. California managed to do just that though.

[@ReneRivers]

That is net migration. In other words even taking into account those who left, CA's population increased in 2024 by 67K. I suspect by the end of the year you will see a bigger increase as people who moved from CA to Tampa are moving back.

[@edsanville]

@@funoh1 Not only did they screw themselves up badly enough to counteract the attractive weather and geography, but they also screwed themselves up enough to counteract the massive economic head start they had with Hollywood AND Silicon Valley. Truly breathtaking levels of mismanagement and corruption.

[@hannahelise9955]

Rich ruins everything tbh

[@kev492001]

No lol

[@luongo7886]

You are so wrong. If prosperity is so bad, then move to communist North Korea where 99.999% of the people there are dirt poor and starving.

[@bonniegaither3994]

Agree 100%

[@Peter-bx7ip]

“How dare you criticize crony capitalism!!”

[@chuckfinley3152]

*Socialism ruins everything

[@doneaton6704]

What companies mean when they say they're moving to a 'more business friendly State' is they don't want to pay employees, taxes or accept any socio economic or environmental responsibility. It's an unhealthy mindset.

[@relaxedleisure4766]

You can’t be hostile to corporate America and the wealthy while also being the most dependent on them. CA needs to chill out with the corp tax and and the high income tax for high earners, and fix their budget structure in general.

[@bighotchip4231]

@@relaxedleisure4766The entire country has to restructure is budget. Most municipal and many state governments in America are bankrupt. Doesn’t help when the federal government sets an extremely poor example/standard.

[@relaxedleisure4766]

@@bighotchip4231 yes, but CA is basically committing accounting fraud.

[@gabrielspianohouse6583]

Tbh, california is not as bad as what everyone thinks. People who leave California usually come back. Its still the most populated state in America.

[@nicolejennings8389]

New York is the most populated

[@donttreadonme123]

@@nicolejennings8389bro is stuck prior to july1st 1964

[@selfdo]

BUNK.

[@soupdrinker]

@@nicolejennings8389 New York City is the most populated CITY. The actual rest of New York, the state as a whole, isn't the most populated state. California is the most populated state. 2nd most is Texas. 3rd most is Florida. 4th place is New York.

[@davecorrea1061]

new california republic!

[@OldsmobileCutlassSupremeConver]

Pls consider that the US dollar is becoming worthless. We doubled the M2 money supply during covid. Intrest rates went too low for too long.

[@caster863]

You didn't mention once about the massive crime and homelessness that California chooses to ignore.

[@trey1sandoval]

They’ve been trying to address it, you’re being dishonest

[@nadakidd]

Please don't keep voting for the policies you fled.

[@davidwilliams4498]

Birthplace of Hollywood movies real estate greed

[@johnnypatrick8252]

Yawn. Boilerplate California hit job. I can't believe these still get you paid.

[@danfreeman9079]

Policies attract the poor and retract the businesses. The super rich will stay but usually have multiple places to live.

[@JoyClinton-i8g]

Without Silicon Valley, California would be a "has been".

[@Calpaddy-r9d]

Calif would have been a natural region, never molested buy them .

[@cameronbatchelor5320]

There is a lot of media showcasing the decline of California, and for good reason. But I think it’s unique geography is also the story of why people are still moving there. At first glance, what regular middle class family would willingly move to a state with a median home price of $850K? I think it’s geography answers that question, perhaps another video?

[@SomethingDifferentFilms]

that's a good point

[@danfreeman9079]

Over 30 years ago we retired on our mountain property. People visiting would say we lived too far out. But over the last few years people started moving up in droves. Building homes or fixing up old logging shacks that were built back in the 30's & 40's. Lots of pot grow sites have sprung up, non English speaking persons living in camp trailers in the forest, gang writing tagging the road signs claiming territory, etc. We don't see the wild animals and herds of deer any more, when we open our windows for smell of fresh mountain air we only get the smell of skunk weed.

[@thisaruyasanjith]

Next time do not use the red background

[@Fat12219]

Southern California 😂😂

[@cjstanley1]

I'm excited people are leaving. less traffic and trash. bye.

[@NotSoMuchFrankly]

Your vids are pretty much negative on most places you cover. But really interesting is the fudging and "creative" charts. Never heard CA had an economy below 7th, but _all_ the other sources are sort of footnoted as a graphic that mentions them as "some metrics." The chart at 1:32 seems backward from what you said but shows no real trend change since 2010 anyway. And it's economy is bigger than ever, harumph harumph. It's 'on the decline' whatever that means. All the problems in CA are caused by CA, but people moving out is causing the same or similar problems inherent to overpopulation in destination areas for both emigrants and natives. They trade lower state tax for increasing property values for all and increased wealth and services disparities. At several points I wasn't sure if you were talking about the state as though it were only a city (with nothing but 'worst parts') or if it's just a part of the rage and scandal-bait tenor of your channel. There are a lot of other geography channels that are interesting and you learn something but you went partisan even in your title.

[@ReneRivers]

Actually net migration has increased in 2023 and 204.

[@pavelow235]

California is affordable the problem is people don't want to live in the cheaper places Sacramento ....Bakersfield....

[@SomethingDifferentFilms]

I see what your saying, but both are higher than the national average and Sacramento has a median home price of over half a million dollars.

[@pkz420]

Sacramento and Bakersfield are only "cheaper" than other Cali cities. They are expensive and very low quality(Low service/high crime) when compared to many cities outside Cali.

[@dawgwiddaglasses]

Sac town is a good place to be, but have you been to Bakersfield? You couldn’t PAY ME to live in that shithole.

[@naptime0143]

Bakersfield, Modesto, Fresno, Madera etc are cheap for a reason nobody wants to live in a desert cesspool

[@hanskaiser6030]

Can’t speak for Bakersfield, but a house for $500,000 in Sac will not be in a nice neighborhood

[@faustinreeder1075]

Great Depression 2.0 is imminent

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

California is about as far north as New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania yet they pretend to be some sort of a tropical paradise.

[@selfdo]

It's strong point has been a DIVERSITY of climates. Crescent City is nothing like Palm Springs, but Buffalo isn't all that different than NYC. Hell, Crescent City is nothing like Alturas some 150 miles to the east. As for "tropical"...more like Mediterranean. No one would mistake, say, Dade County, FL for San Diego, though both have the mildest of winters, if anything resembling winter at all.

[@Hurileno]

You talking about socal? cause it certainly isn't the same longitude. Even then regional weather can vary wildly, going 50 mins north to SF from SJ could turn a 100f clear day to a 60f with fog

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

@@Hurileno I am talking latitude. Sure San Diego CA is basically Savannah GA but the state of California is extremely long from south to north. Should probably be about four or five states in there. San Francisco is more Atlantic City NJ.

[@ocramble]

Bye. And don’t come back.

[@garylangley4502]

Completely missed the mark. Look to Sacramento for the cause.

[@tmonie]

wendover

[@_Imaginethis_]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[@peterjaniceforan3080]

🤷‍♂️

[@VDA194]

It's not that bad here! It's gotten expensive everywhere. So you might as well live where it's nice most of the year 😂

[@michaeldeierhoi4096]

IF you can afford to live there!!

[@soupdrinker]

California isn't the only place that is "nice most of the year". There are still cheaper and nicer options

[@alanaldpal950]

Answer …. Democrats

[@StationRussification]

No Not Wrong,,,, Get a life

[@hh19_19]

Quien testifique que no hay más dios que Dios solo, sin socio, y que Mahoma es Su siervo y Mensajero, y que Jesús es el siervo y Mensajero de Dios, y Su palabra que concedió a María, y un espíritu de Él, y ese Paraíso es verdad, y el infierno es verdad; Que Dios lo admita en el Paraíso por sus obras.