What happens when you defeat Saturos and Menardi in Golden Sun? (Vale)

[@edwinharbauer2260]

The Plot Armor was thicker than 14 year old Isaac's Gaia Blade.

[@coreflakes]

but oddly its 17 year old isaac's battle sprite

[@doorkunmakoto]

I guess 14 year old Issac didn't have a weapon sprite for that.

[@w33aboojones]

This is definitely one of the game series that needs a remake.

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Mike Capadano i totally agree with you. The first 2 games boasted over 1 million units sold and they had no reason to stop. They then made dark dawn 7 years later and that basically ruined the franchise not just because of the story but the time gap led to fewer fans over time. This series definitely needs a reboot in any way

[@viewtifuldesign6793]

Wth are you talking about? Just buy it again and play it again. this game aged really well!

[@PkmnLovar]

@@viewtifuldesign6793 I'm pretty sure they're talking about a remake for well yes graphic improve but also to bring people to the game, a game over a decade old won't really bring new players in, a remake on the other hand could spark that though

[@latemporis5430]

@@PkmnLovar i personally love this old graphic : D

[@perahoky]

SOOOOO true. with current mechnaics and good made, not like the 3th one.

[@HuskChamber]

Isaac fought so hard he fainted lol

[@coreflakes]

basically colosso

[@asra-5180]

Yvertal kingdom hearts reference.

[@mr.cantillasz1912]

@@coreflakes he sleeping after the fight,lol

[@Mnemoniforma9.00]

@@asra-5180 The first Asch battle in Tales of the Abyss had a similar result too

[@diamondseraph9369]

@@Mnemoniforma9.00 Oh my God a Tales fan...

[@jonathanbradley4896]

Saturos: "You were eavesdropping on us just now weren't you?" Isaac: "Yep, TF you gonna do about it bitch?"

[@JohnnyBoiRed86]

😂😂😂😂

[@coryisftw1]

Hilarious

[@iicapnjazzii6779]

Death slice got you from 999 to 0 . Damn camalot wasn't messing around. I love golden sun they really need to finish the story with the 3ds

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Alex Carrillo yea the bosses are really meant to kill u. i hope that switch leak can trigger another game like the ds

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

then again isaac has inf hp with trash stats

[@thunderhead9338]

To be honest if they were going to make a sequel they would have done it years ago

[@MrStrikeninja15]

Thunderhead They released golden sun dark dawn 8 years after lost age. It's been 8 years since dark dawn, so who knows.

[@thunderhead9338]

I have dark dawn and I've done everything in it....I just want Camelot to stop making Mario tennis and make another golden Sun game

[@Spiritbomb88]

Golden Sun 4 on the Switch. Please make it happen Camelot.

[@Skitz0frenix]

Or just Golden Sun, but it's completely remade from the ground up AND it's GS1&2 on one cartridge :3

[@latemporis5430]

yes yes.... i wish the series continue

[@janelybonieto2805]

i feel your pain

[@warden_ofthe_sands7414]

A polished 3d remake would be fantastic. Granted while I don't want to buy a switch add it to the list of games that would convince me to get one.

[@perahoky]

@@warden_ofthe_sands7414 here too. with they announce some golden sun and it looks good i'll buy a switch probably in golden sun style case.

[@derpynerdy6294]

Saturos and menardi be like Wtf did we just get into?

[@wannabestrega]

Imagining just jumping two children and they start casting powerful spells on you

[@-Samus-Aran-]

I love how they nod to each other like "yeah we sure showed them." lmao

[@janelybonieto2805]

plottwist: isaac and garet were sleeping all this time

[@sebastianmartinrosas]

It was a dream xDDDD

[@CrimsonChaos600]

just finished a golden sun run for the good old days. Took me 20 hours xD still waiting for part 4

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

same. i cant wait or another golden sun game to come out!

[@PureSp1r1t]

I'm literally going through it atm :P

[@flash4354]

Crimson Chaos We. Need. Golden Sun. 4.

[@joshminnick4512]

In the process of playing threw both on my phone haven't played in about 5 years also waiting for a 4th hopefully they make it for the Switch

[@18idlesuggest]

All three games??

[@FreddyChoppins]

2:09 "You think death can stop me?"

[@yoshisgr8]

I find it funny how you can hear the victory theme fading out as you see Isaac's and Garet's bodies down to the ground

[@ChronoJedi]

HAHAHHAHAHA! THEY STILL GET OWNED! XD

[@jon2kx]

It was a genjutsu the whole time. Our dudes were asleep.

[@janelybonieto2805]

@@jon2kx XD naruto reference

[@greengeek562]

I need more Golden Sun!

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

greengeek562 so do i. Still waiting on either golden Sun trilogy hd remake golden Sun 4, or isaac in smash

[@flash4354]

greengeek562 I'm dying to hear when GS4 will be announced.

[@johnnyp9727]

Isaac got hit so hard he had delusions.

[@-Samus-Aran-]

Isaac: "Yay..." *coughs up blood* "we did it, right Garret?" Garret: 💀

[@toceeno874]

@@-Samus-Aran- Garet: *Family Guy death pose*

[@18idlesuggest]

Saturos and Menardi be like: In your dreams

[@acespiritbf]

Every time golden sun 4 doesn't get announced, I come back to this video to cry away my sorrows. Death Slice me next pls

[@AzumiArya]

Alt Title: Isaac, Time Travelling itself to the past

[@AuthorsAgony]

Only now do I notice that Saturos and Menardis attacks gets better and stronger from this point compared to when you face them at Venus lighthouse. Just another sign of how good this game is, you became better but so did they.

[@WhiteUmbra1]

I always thought they just weren't trying so hard here. You could be right though.

[@chilomine839]

They probably leveling up too as they went around thwarting you and generally being antiheroes.

[@tubby_1278]

Same. I always go by their moveset though. In the initial encounter you see them using moves like eruption and flare wall then by the time you reach Venus Lighthouse they would've practically mastered their fire psynergy as well, with moves like pyroclasm, supernova, inferno, and fiery blast

[@OfficialBulldozerStudios]

I can already envision it: Those 2 bastards, having had the stuffing knocked out of them, watch as Isaac simply collapses and faints after using up his strength on Titan Blade ( a grown man can probably spam that over and over without consequence, but the drain was too much on child Isaac ). Afterwards the two are probably like: "What the heck just happened to us!? First we almost get blown to bits in Sol Sanctum, then some kid almost beats us to death!" "Who cares? He's fainted, so now's our chance. Let's get out of here before their parents find us and finish us off!" Note to self: Don't piss off Isaac.

[@redirmer760]

The player who used cheats against the two enemies would act as an interdimensional time being using isaac as a vessel and attempt to avoid the unfortunate tragedy and capture the two perpetrators using old ruinous magic through forbidden tongue meanwhile garet looks at isaac with trembling awe as of why his friend at first was acting strange turned into a God.

[@barrytheflamedemon2.039]

Did u forgot Isaac's dad Kyle died when the Mt Aleph Boulder crashed into him,Felix & his parents leaving Isaac,Dora & Jenna alone?

[@OmegaCKL]

Imagine some game just madescripted losses have the boss cast "Plot Armor" and take 0 damage if you got far enough

[@HProtagVtuber]

Isaac: Has literally the power of gods Saturos: Sorry kiddo you're going to the timeout corner

[@siggysoggy]

It was allll in your head Luigi

[@GCJACK83]

Eh. I still like the thought that the first "boss" fight in the original Golden Sun is meant to show you how screwed you are at the start of the game.

[@dbnathan5]

That's exactly what it's there for.

[@jonathanbradley4896]

It's the classic "get your ass kicked at the beginning, then kick their ass later to show how much you've grown" trope. Reminds me of Megaman X with Vile.

[@hrothgarnogar]

Ehh it’s kinda normal tho. Seems like nearly every jrpg has that type of fight.

[@Longlius]

I remember doing this as a kid when I first got my action replay for the GBA.

[@insertnamehere6659]

Never did get to play this one or Lost Ages, but this is hilarious. Saturos and Menardi must've hacked the matrix, lol. I did enjoy Dark Dawn immensely though, despite what folks said about it. That being said, I think I'm hooked on the series, even if it was just from one game. Imagine the sequel on the 3DS... dammit, its got shivers going down my spine! Such a good story, and I can't wait till there's a continuation.

[@jessedeleon4123]

Insert Name Here play the first two you’ll love them even more

[@cleru1727]

You should play gs 1-2 too, they're National treasures ya know (er world maybe) xD

[@michaw7038]

play Golden Sun 1 on a GBA SP with backlight! your life will change :)

[@Dichtsau]

yo bro, just download a Visual Boy Advance & the roms. if u put it into 2 different folders and copy the VBA into those folders, u can even get ur gs1 party into gs2 via "link cable". and yes that works, even for pokemon, 2 ppl can fight on 1 keyboard :D you REALLY missed a masterpiece of a story! gs1+2 was planned as 1 game, but blasted the module's capacities!

[@lordofhostsappreciator3075]

Play them. NOW.

[@goncalooliveira3487]

If I was a game developer I would put some random meme right in the end

[@moisesgilsantiso389]

"You see, they pull the old "lose in the battle, kill you in the cutscene anyways" technique"

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Well u were never supposed to win so they didnt bother making a 2nd cutscene

[@zedek6709]

A softlock would be epic regardless

[@kelvinmartinez4900]

WHAT????? THAT'S BULLSHIT I was specting an alternative ending.

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Kelvin Martinez there never was one programmed for it since its impossible in normal gameplay

[@ozmathecrimsonking9258]

Abnormal Adept i would except that as an excuse but in tales of destiny on PS1 they give u an almost impossible fight against Leon which u cant beat unless u use the gameshark. when u beat him he notices, its a different scene then the 1 where u just get your ass whooped lol so i see dudes point

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Ozma The Crimson King if it requires a cheat code to beat leon then it would be considered unused since its there but not normally accessible

[@tea_fran]

You can buy a lot of those damage items that send an electric shock across the field (forget what they're called) and easily beat Leon that way. Plus you can deal a decent amount of damage on him anyway and have the opportunity to grind and overlevel. In the childhood arc on GS, you only get a handful of scripted encounters and won't level up. You're lucky to even inflict 2hp of damage on S&M. They programmed it in such a way that it's impossible via normal means, whereas ToD has a handful of methods to put the odds in your favor against Leon. Also, you're both way too butthurt about something non-canonical not being implemented in the game.

[@Vic-lu6dk]

I expected an infinite loop. Like them reaching to 0 hp and not hitting the bucket

[@dekudiamond4357]

I like how they just make the sound of a bat when they die.

[@flintecho3591]

3:32 Isaac & Garet : **faint** Screw it, play the victory jingle

[@RafaH57]

*Victory jingle played Isaac and garet fainted *Victory jingle slowly disappear

[@kamilbytomski5382]

they just have to save Felix

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

if they can

[@VinxPlanilla]

Holy shit! A green Saturnos!

[@jonswazei146]

facts! xD

[@mistahjenkins4826]

Huh... In all honesty, I would have thought the game would softlock, or something.

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

its programmed to play the cut-scene when the battle ends regardless

[@Faceless_time_traveler]

Saturos and menardi be like *WHy Won'T YoU DiE ?!!!!*

[@Zoey587]

I guess how it works is that after the battle ends, it plays that cutscene of you loosing. So no matter what you faint

[@JenniferReturn]

2:09 That made me laugh so hard! Poor Menardi! LOL

[@derpboyzero7669]

One successful Death Slice later.

[@paladineXD]

Ah man this song

[@pacspacs8693]

This game is my childhood i will do anything for me to by its collector's edition if it is going to be remastered i dont care if it is 2d HD or whole remake. I never seen anything like this game, the story, the battle, the puzzles, the interaction with NPC everything it is so underrated

[@jdhoushour3041]

thursday march 15 2018 and ive just ordered this awesome again. and yea i know you tweaked isaac but tbh from the damage you inflicted on saturos and menardi it looked just like their hp value atop venus lighthouse (before the fusion dragon, obviously) with less effective psynergy but it is MEANT to be lost so going all out makes no sense here lol. the result doesnt surprise me a bit and once i saw saturos fall i called it just as i saw with saturos and medardi pulling a "chibi- usa" and scampering away lol! nice job on this one and i want Golden Sun Rise of Dawn (my personal preferrence for a new title if they do it) ! and if they do, the time is soon approaching when it would fall perfectly into place imo!

[@SkymanplayzGacha]

The look on their faces at 3:32

[@Cid7897]

BY THE POWER OF SCENARIO

[@perahoky]

golden sun, one of the best, if not THE best, games on GBA in the lost age. Such simple but powerful game mechanics, i wonder why there are not more RPGs out there.

[@AveryAce2]

No way, I was thinking about this today. The RPG version of "heads I win, tails you lose"

[@watersheep7749]

Saturos and Menardi be like : Wtf this supposed to be a one hit KO what have gotten into

[@rubennieto5311]

and so they woke up confused and without their legs, execellent creepypasta

[@beryreby6517]

Plot Twist : *"They're Dreaming until they realized that they already lost"*

[@pez1850]

Yeah! Science!

[@sandro5535]

Love these alternative endings. Gonna check out if you have material such as "Will you take upon yourself to save the world?" /Wise one "NO!" /Isaac hehe

[@Zeldarulah]

This is like every solo Duty in FF14 in Stormblood and onward

[@niteshadowx2394]

Issac shows up like UNLIMITED POWER!!!! And satoros and menardi are like yeah nice try kid

[@ChronoJedi]

Think of it ... If this were true the rest of the game would be a walk in the park ... They could just toss the elemental stars into the lighthouses like they playing basketball till the end of the game

[@prince_nocturne]

Seems what happens is it desyncs the audio. The shock of this reality shattering effect causes Issac to pass out, and the pair of mars adepts take the moment to escape.

[@mbc86xl]

The one time Saturos and Menardi had plot armor.

[@pungqh]

The only part i do not like for dark dawn is that most of the playable characters joined the team in a sudden, some useless psynergy that was used to only solve one puzzle.

[@Roberto-mm4gr]

Pung Qi Hao Eolo and his useless ass fire psynergy that was only used like twice in the whole game

[@cocomunga]

The developers seemed to have considered that the player could spend ages leveling up. Right before Menardi is defeated she uses that Death attack. When you think you are so close to winning, you die no matter what. Without cheats you can’t survive. This reminds me of Balio and Sunder from breath of fire 3. Though at least this game decides enough is enough and just beats you. In that they just can’t die no matter how much damage you do.

[@SparkSovereign]

I actually remember considering this, but as memory serves (it's been awhile lol) there's a fixed number of encounters here rather than a normal farmable area, even though it looks like one during a normal playthrough.

[@KaitN9]

Yes, same in the Temple of Sol. Once all your characters get lvl 4 or 5, the random encounters just stop to happen

[@barrytheflamedemon2.039]

Saturos & Menardi:You can't defeat us Isaac & Garet without cheats:We know but they can *Points to Isaac & Garet with cheats* Me:If y'all get the reference you're cultured lmao

[@chatnoir3025]

Wow, the game developers really wanted you to lose. If their absurd HP pool and damage wasn't enough, Menardi also got an instant death attack. That's just overkill.

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

I know right

[@KaitN9]

She has that attack in the final fight too though

[@DaegdaGames]

I've done this before, super fun finding out how things were coded. If Golden Sun were to be remade, and given a very modern makeover, who would do the voices of the characters? I feel like.... Kraden: would HAVE to be Ian Mckellen Saturos: Jeremy Irons. Menardi: Idk Uma Thurman? Tilda Swinton? Helena Bonham Carter? Mia: Vanessa Hudgens Garet: Dante Basco Ivan: Freddie Highmore Isaac: Tom Holland Eh, let me keep dreaming.

[@GoldenSun3DS]

I remember doing this cheats a long time ago. I'm not sure if it was emulated or the actual system that I did it on.

[@Kai_soze]

This was my favorite game when I was a kid

[@lhimmortal1523]

...I've ALWAYS wondered about this!

[@boltzypajarillaga8862]

Garet got his Ass pounded while Isaac does all the work XD

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

didnt wanna control both of them, had the cheat for isaac and mashed A lol

[@TRDGE]

I was expecting something like when Future Trunks went back to his timeline and annihilated Cell lol

[@lu.02x]

This is just what was happened in kid Isaac's imagination-

[@koudmon172]

THE TRUE WARRIOR OF VALE FIGHTING WITH THE WARRIOS OF CLAN MARS

[@salsaccino]

I had a huge crush on Saturos as a kid ngl

[@v.jm.m8200]

OH MY GAWD, THEY JUMPED ON US AND KILLED US BOTH! GEURGHHHHHHHAWARGHHG

[@DanDan-nm8ws]

They fell in a genjutsu lmao

[@lordofhostsappreciator3075]

The sound effects

[@ElZaki.]

Isaac: it was a dream...

[@adrianrock1287]

I remember I let my friend use my action replay, he still lost.

[@RT-dx2lz]

When I was a kid I was able to defeat Menardi without any cheats but Saturos insta killed me right after.i was only able to do it with luck.i didn't even know you could do that back then.

[@Luuute]

I DID IT I FINALLY BECAME THE ALMIGHTY SUPER SAIYAN Oh how cute hes asleep I-Im unstoppable

[@no1bandfan]

Perfectly balanced!

[@LeaveNoEvident128]

You got the sol blade from the second game xD, a little early brah

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

the magic of save editing

[@LeaveNoEvident128]

@@AbnormalAdeptOfficial does the weapon work as intended or no sprites and only auto attack

[@ZenoDLC]

No space on that cart for many more I guess

[@mariawynn1970]

Any way for Garet to survive? Block? Revives?

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Maria Wynn I didn't care about Garet. As long as Isaac isn't ded I can keep going. I could have used a cheat for garet but I was lazy so I left him ded

[@mariawynn1970]

Him being alive, still plays the same cutscene. I guess the mad skill "glitches" weren't supposed to be happen so you stay at a certain base stat. Sounds like certain death to me! Thanks for the video, I thought if you beat them they might say, aahhh too strong let's go lol. Or something haha.

[@sandro5535]

Could you make a compilation of all the wrong replies? "Will you save the world?" "No" "Where you ears dropping on us?" "yes" I bet it won't make much difference at all. The illusion of choice.

[@SparkSovereign]

If you reply "no" to "will you save the world" you actually can get a game over by walking out the door. None of the other decisions matter in any appreciable way, at worst they just wait for you to come back and say the right thing.

[@patricgmuer2988]

I have a question, if you do the exact same stats for issac and leave the other 3 characters downed, will the fight with them at mercury lighthouse and Venus lighthouse be easier than this fight? Cause it kind of seemed like it took a lot to take them down here. And they might have been weakened for the next two fights with them.

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

no, u should have all 4 fighting. thats easiest

[@jericalnaudes9444]

The comment above wants to know if the future fights lengths the same as this or if they were weakened. Meaning you can kill them with less turns. You know that Saturos is "weaker" in the next battle. Because the Mercury Lighthouse plot. It would be nice to check the veracity of that.

[@MxMaker]

Colisoum flashback here.

[@CozyBoat275]

So basically they lost and pulled out a Glock and shot them

[@Fun811]

Please touch me how to make Issac and hi’s team get max level and having all rare equipment. I am playing the golden sun on iPhone in emulator named Delta

[@Redtrainer1]

lol i wonder whos really DED now

[@pavy415]

I beat them so long ago I use game shark to Max there levels and have all spells and those pets and summoned and spammed

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Lol they are called djinn. And there's also unused spells in the game that u can enable as well

[@rustyssj9467]

Anyone know how to get Golden Sun on pc? Please send a link to anything that can help me get the first and second game

[@Spiritbomb88]

Yuma Epicness Download an emulator. VisualBoyAdvance works like a charm.Then get the ROMs for the games from Emuparadise.com

[@barrytheflamedemon2.039]

Even if you defeat them the ending is still the same even with cheats

[@luizations]

Truth is, the game was rigged from the start

[@thrtxxnth4036]

Lmfao...they still got that ass whooped

[@gamerprince-tl5hg]

Won the fight but still died LMAO

[@jmwooodenyt]

Nice pfp

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

yastropgames thx. Sucks that Isaac still isn't playable

[@jmwooodenyt]

@@AbnormalAdeptOfficial yeah but atleast he was brought back with more moves and an updated model

[@adamestrada7610]

Damn that's some BS. You work hard for your victory and yet the bad guys still get away. I think they could have at least pulled a Chrono Trigger and given you a super meta special ending.

[@perahoky]

What happens? Nothing.

[@Xannolc1]

Who else remembers the cheat which said you can recruit Saturos by doing exactly this?

[@barrytheflamedemon2.039]

What's the cheat code,cheat type? I'm just curious if it works or not

[@Xannolc1]

@@barrytheflamedemon2.039 oh it wasn't a code or anything. Just one of those early internet rumors which floated around. Basically it said that if you beat Saturos in this fight, he'd join your party as a secret character. Obviously that's impossible because there are only 1 or 2 scripted encounters against bats in the prologue. No way to grind.

[@barrytheflamedemon2.039]

@@Xannolc1 Well they're just rumors so idk if it's true or not but if it was,it'd be cool to have Saturos as a playable character

[@Xannolc1]

@@barrytheflamedemon2.039 that's why I wanted it so badly lol. But I guess it would change too much of the story. He and Menardi are the final boss of the first game after all

[@Yujin_Takazumy]

where are the cheats?

[@forestlink6673]

Is gaia blade better than sol blade?

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

yes the sol blade is much better than the gaia blade. the sol blade has a base power of 200 while gaia blade has 135. the gaia blade can increase venus power by 20 and resist venus attacks by 20. the sol blade doesnt have any buffs. both blades also have an unleash at 35% which is pretty solid, gaia gives u extra 70 venus power and sol gives u x3 the venus power as dmg output. so sol blade is better and i would recommend u give it to your strongest venus fighter and the gaia to your 2nd strongest. (isaac or felix whoever is stronger)

[@mojoejoes6830]

Maybe its given here that youre defeated cause like ofc youre just starting so youre weak here right?

[@Gab-sn5ku]

Hi can i ask if what cheat did you use to get that sword?

[@AbnormalAdeptOfficial]

Gab 202 it was kinda complicated. I used a debug room cheat so when i enter a door i warp to a debug room. Then i pick out a weapon and warp back