What I Dislike About My Porsche 911 GTS after 15,000 Miles

[@TedwardDrives]

You know its a good car when cup holders are at the top of the list of gripes =p . Love the GTS. Your spec is beautiful

[@amoghgajankush1975]

lol true

[@a.c.e.7568]

I came up with "real sports cars do not have cupholders" when I bought my 993. Those in my 991.1 Carrera 4 GTS have never been used.

[@dirkpalmer1067]

Just bought a 2019 991.2 Carerra 4 gts. So far, my favorite of 70+ in my lifetime. (Not proud of going thru that many cars, lol). Traded a more powerful car for this and zero regrets. Steering & handling are superior!

[@daveschozer6166]

PROS- EVERYTHING CONS- U.S. Speed Limits

[@KpopNiDontStop]

What I dislike about the Porsche 911 GTS... I can't afford it.

[@julio_pq]

First word problems hahaha. The fact that you talk about cupholders and the front lip is an example of how good this car is. Enjoy that beauty!

[@ALT3REDB3AST]

German engineers say: Utta nonzenze!! Zare iz nosing wrong wiz de cup holda! You juz need to buy a zmaller cup of cofeeze!

[@DonAl9114]

It is only in the US that people drive around with a large cup in their hands. A 911 requires full attention all the time , so have your drink before or after the drive. An nowadays every smartphone has Google maps to find way wherever you are. But this car is really amazing. Just enjoy owning it. 😊

[@lmfao8314]

Please don't buy Starbucks you're better than this!

[@0r14n583lt]

Order the car with a front axel lift mechanism - for accessing driveways and going over speed bumps.

[@3204clivesinclair]

German designed and built - for European size cups. We all you Americans like everything large.... but seriously... drive the car, don’t drink coffee.

[@alhodge4051]

typical german response..... wait for the lawsuit...70 % of porsches are sold in the US....not fucking europe..

[@longshotkdb]

@@alhodge4051 lol don't have a stroke there captain america. also, whats with the morse code? an ellipses is just 3 dots, not a random string, varying each time, and what on earth are you talking about lawsuits for? typical spoiled, victim mentality. if you love american cars so much, buy one. (with a 'super sized' cup holder ...) ignorant, foul mouthed, nationalist fool that you are.

[@gordonfreeman5689]

@@longshotkdb the best rekt ever. Boi you made my day 😂

[@johnnyboy1586]

Yeah stop off at good cafe,buy a good coffee sit down and look lovingly over your 911😏

[@skrd77]

Yeah. Or better do like me. Drink espresso. It takes 10 seconds so you don't need to take coffee in the car, just enjoy driving :)

[@magellster]

Fantastic video as usual. Love the fact you are able to accurately criticize something you speak so highly of. The jams in the intro and outro are on-point!

[@tribe_called_oh]

magellster I Def like his music choices too!

[@JustDriveFlatOut]

If u pay attention to cupholders is because this car is close to Perfection

[@bernardortiz7351]

I watched this video when you first published it, and I've re-watched it now that I'm in the market for one of these... thank you for your valuable insight!

[@a.c.e.7568]

Joe, I forgot to mention I protected the underside of my front lip with a strip of 1 inch wide black body-side molding, the stuff that is 1/4 inch thick. I used three strips, center and one on each side.

[@tvieso]

Thanks for the review. Don't worry about the negative comments on here. There are already a million reviews about all the other attributes of the car. It's nice to hear someone chime in on some daily driving points. A shitty cupholder would drive me crazy after a while. Center lock wheels are a great point too. That could lead to an entirely different approach on models.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks for the kind words. It's been rough reading the comments on this video. Whew! Again, this car is truly amazing. What I mention in the video are admittedly small quibbles that wouldn't stop me from buying the car again if given the choice. Maybe I should have made that point abundantly clear at the beginning of the video. Live and learn. Thanks again for watching!

[@go4384]

The 991.1 would look great if no other models existed. The front end only looks bad in comparison to other generations. But it still looks good.

[@57gord]

I would add that that steering wheel could tilt up more, for exiting. It seems to go down more than necessary, guess it all depends on your size. Also power seats move so slow but this is true with most cars and I wish Porsche had kept a handbrake in the car. Not a fan of these electronic ones. Especially on hill starts I find they release too slow, much rather do it myself.

[@poolfarm2]

Totally agree, the electric handbrake is a horrible invention.

[@pabloarroyo1023]

I have heard from a lotus owner that you can buy an additional plastic bumper to add to most popular car makes to protect the real bumper

[@darrenmclaughlin8971]

Hey Joe. Please keep your reviews/opinions coming, they're GREAT. It's a breath of fresh air to hear an owner list the like and "don't likes". ps. maybe drink espresso (smaller cup!) ;)

[@SteveC-Shaman]

Interesting to see how the 991.1 screen is so different from my 991.2, especially the map.

[@chrisscott1652]

the splitter doesn't stick out, it's just lower and the car is lower too. Front axle lift will fix that.

[@MemoryLaneCinema]

those cupholders are great. buy a smaller drink. another thing. if you were to put a bigger drink in. That the bottom goes further down then one would complain that the drink would hit the passengers knees. Those holders are great. pure and simple.

[@seandenny1553]

Seven buttons is the only way to go, that’s all the options you gotta have I made sure of that on my 991.1S

[@DonaldSeymourjr]

Amen Brotha, I truly agree with you on the center console layout. The only problem I have with you, is you don't have a manual.

[@harrycee656]

I agree with buttons. I like them over touch screens. Using an infotainment touchscreen to adjust volume, adjust HVAC.... Just as bad as texting.

[@dlg5485]

I don't understand why everyone is so bitchy about Joe's cup holder comments. I totally agree with him on this. I drive a lot and drink a lot of coffee and tea. Cup holders are extremely important to me and most drivers who like beverages. Stop the stupid and unnecessary hating.

[@philnleblanc6664]

1: I’ve NEVER used the cup holders in my 911 2: I’ve NEVER bottomed out my front splitter 3: I knew to have Apple Car Play Yes I know we all have our own dislikes and likes but in reality, there’s not much to dislike.

[@philipwatkins8157]

Lets go though your complaints: 1. The car is not a coffee shop and it's designed function is as a mode of transport hence the priority for 'car' related items and not 'drinking support facilities' (should you be drinking whilst driving anyway, especially in a Porsche?); 2. You know the design and style of the car and as it's a 'sports' car it's going to be low - alternatively get a front lifter or buy a truck; 3. Apple car play - get it upgraded but at some point there has to be a limit about how much technology can be added to a car given the time limits to test, develop, manufacture , introduce and add to the building process ; 4. Wheels - centre lock - surely you must have thought about winter tyres before you bought it so why was it not considered then? Alternative, change the hubs to the 5 stud wheel fitment it was an option for the GTS (and for the Turbo's)? 5. Price - buy a cheaper car. If you want a Porsche one pays the price for the Porsche because of design, style, reliability, speed, experience and retention of value, especially GTS's. Perhaps you should buy a cheap truck with a mobile coffee shop with winter tyres with an iPad with all your apps (sorry Joe, I had to add that). Nice car though and probably the best colour.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Ha!!! I absolutely love my GTS! I should have made that clear in this video. If you check out my other vids about my GTS, you'll see how much I love this car and extol its great virtues. I have had the car since new, 2015, and not much out there has convinced to trade it in for something else. A car that came close was the 718 Spyder. The Spyder is so sharp, nimble and fun, it made me wonder if it should replace the GTS with that. Then I drive my GTS again and I am happy. The other car that I would give up my GTS for would be a 991.2 GT3. Long-winded way of saying that these items I talk about in this video are very, very minor things that do not overshadow my enjoyment of the car over the last 8 years.

[@anthonylessthanzero1498]

KEEP THE CAR, GET RID OF THE COFFEE! Problem solved... lol I remember when you bought it new. Beautiful car! You don't see many up for sale compared to other 991.1 models. People are keeping them!

[@highyo]

the front lip is a $200 item on suncoast, but that comes unpainted which can get up there in cost. great video!

[@airindiana]

Yeah cup holders will seem kind of short when you trying a put a half kilo bucket of coffee in them I guess 😂

[@1hard2findbro]

1.take the sleeve off of the coffee 2. you should have gotten the lift system. The rest of criticisms are warranted. I want a manual Targa GTS

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

True, there is a lift system. I bought this car off the dealer lot after it had been built. The lift wasn't specified on this car. Had I ordered the car, I would spec the lift. On the cupholders, which I realize is a small and insignificant thing, I could just not have liquid in the car at all. And usually I don't. But on long trips, sometimes I like having a bottle of water. A standard small bottle of water falls out of that cupholder so I don't even bother putting it in there. Having said all that, this car is so fantastic that the complaints I have are very minor.

[@malcolmleong2602]

The exact same complaints I have about my 2011 GTS! Especially the damn front splitter! My daughter calls ramps and speed bumps NONE Porsche friendly roads! :-)

[@gloriousyeet6068]

Is the center lock wheels standard on the GTS? Does the 2016 GTS come with 5-lug wheels?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Center lock wheels are standard on the GTS but some owners ordered them with 5-lugs. So it all depends on how the owner/dealer ordered the car.

[@andrewward7042]

I drive mine with both hands on the wheel. I have never used the cup holders. 911s are about driving, not mobile Starbucks.

[@fabis_m4]

What’s the color called on you’re beautiful 911?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

It’s called Agate Grey

[@fabis_m4]

@@Joe_Hutchinson thank you Sir!

[@v8ssf]

I personally agree with all of your comments, the only other thing I would change if I could when I had mine was it feels like the car could do with a little more torque low down. The car is plenty fast enough but this would make it the perfect car. Keep up the great videos Joe...!👍🏻

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Excellent point about torque and I agree, the car is plenty fast. Thanks for watching.

[@ubermind-tim]

Well done vid. Most of the vids rave about the 911 with a few preferential details that are disliked. Yours starts out with more little issues that are god to know about before shopping for and driving one. Big thanks.

[@_LeeTurner]

Just put an aftermarket apple play module in behind the PCM and you'll get a great solution. You wont able able to tell any difference when looking at it.

[@awigta4]

The cup holder is just the way it is. No matter how many miles. I wanna see check engine light. Post another video when it does.

[@AnthonyToppins]

just got a 2015 GTS CPO. love your videos and love my GTS!!!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Congratulations!!!! I love my GTS too! It's hard to give this car up!

[@Gjeebs]

Beautiful spec

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks!

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Wrong. It's an automatic. It needs to be a manual.

[@Olph1]

The car is amazing. No real complaints. You seem like you really want a Miata. Damn the coffee cup! 😀

[@OlkjU287]

Buy a smaller coffee, should have spec'd your car with the front end lift system if you have a steep driveway. If you can afford a £100k+ motor you can afford a spare set of centre lock wheels for track or winter. Who really needs Apple car play, later year GTS's have it, it ain't all that, it's not a biggy, the chassis, drive train and looks are what this car is all about. All first world problems, your car is super dope. The colour and wheels are a perfect match. It's a real beauty! 👌🏽 Enjoy it. Thanks for a great video, you just got yourself a new subscriber ✌🏼 Does anyone know what the colour is called?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks for the comments. The color is Agate Grey. Thanks for watching and subscribing. I really love this car. It is a fantastic drive. All the things I mentioned are small things and do not take away from the enjoyment of the car. It's a blast.

[@sherparoyale]

Worth a watch or is it just backhanded compliments?

[@renscience]

I have a 991.1 S Cab. Love it. Lifetime car

[@NoHassle911]

People form Germany and Europe like me, use just normal size cups. Its more a American problem I guess. But still, what a lovely car! The spec is just mega!

[@MBJ2323]

I can't find option to equip those wheels in black on Porsche Website... they look great!

[@MrDavekoster]

Well the cupholder problem is a AMI problem because its hard to find a normal size cup in the us.

[@nkwrite915]

As a 911 owner, I am furious at you for driving your car with a cup of coffee in your right hand. Put the coffee down, grab the wheel with both hands and drive the car! It's not a Corolla, it's a 911!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

You are right. no excuses. I was just trying to make a point about the limited use of those cup holders, which I could have done while stationary then poured out the coffee before driving off. You're right.

[@madmanmohoeknee7911]

Nicholas kourabas quit your bitching

[@nkwrite915]

Even Joe agrees!

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Drive the car? He can't. It's an automatic. Yawn. Now if it were a proper manual....then he could drive it.

[@iluvcakes19]

Nicholas Kourabas boooy get off KZbin

[@cryptoslimer8589]

Is your backup camera OEM? Thought they started with the cameras in 2016??

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

My backup camera is OEM. I am not sure when they started but I have one in my 2015.

[@AndersChanTidemann]

Lovely car and kudos for listening to Brad Mehldau!

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

thanks so much!

[@bbjnimens]

Your insights are appreciated, thank you. Some numbers instead of " the wheels are expensive" and the "splitter is probably expensive" and the car is "expensive" would really ad some depth to your comments. Great otherwise. thx again.

[@Only-one-life-68]

Totally agree with the cup holder it’s in need of more depth possibly 25mm 1”

[@ab185]

Any issues with rattles/squeaks?

[@rustynugget2288]

i've never thought of it but can those cup holders hold anything except things that are wider at the top than the bottom? what if you wanted to put a can of red bull on there? shit out of luck?

[@brandonbentley8532]

Real porsches don't have cup holders or glove boxes...joking...but not really. Awesome car!

[@adamnelson3378]

Great video! Thank you for sharing. I’m still buying one! 😉

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

It is a FANTASTIC CAR! I am so happy with it. As I say in this video, these issues are super minor. I am really enjoying this car.

[@blues3531]

I had a 997.2 C2S and I hated the cup holders as well. Even with a small cup. I don't care about having a big cup but they're too damn shallow. I could NEVER trust them and would always hover my hand around the few times I used them.

[@awigta4]

So at 15000 miles cup holders functionality decrease? I though you wanna talk about sensors or some mechanical issues.

[@KiKiCarr]

Love that background music too

[@Manexkiller03]

nice video, stay chill dude. and by the way, keep the chill music.

[@zemekiel]

There is no problem with the cup holders. Your problem is the humongous cup.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Good point.

[@drew9312]

Helpful review. How on earth do highly qualified, presumably well paid Porsche engineers create such a really poor cup holder for a premium car?

[@alex4daddy1]

Happy Friday Joe i am in the market for a 2013 or 2015 GTS. And your vehicle is gorgeous. Peace and blessings Sir.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thank you so much. I still have the car and continue to enjoy it. Update video coming soon. All the best to you.

[@RedMCS1]

The cup holder looks like it would hold on a fairly short turn. You moved your hand before you turned. Those are all trivial! The only problem in the car is the phone holder you added. Verdict: the only shortcomings are the problem you created by buying a cheap phone holder. You should have bought a high quality phone holder. I will trade you even up with my 2002 C4S.

[@STRmw2]

I don’t think I’ve ever used cupholders in my cars

[@joshsan32]

Does the car have Bluetooth?

[@GRACEORT]

NO vehicle manufacturer in the World makes Retractable cup holders that are intended to be used by the driver whilst the vehicle is being driven. And although passengers could use them in this case no manufacturer could make a cup holder that would cater for everyone’s possible style of driving and prevent spillages of some sort occurring. Therefore it would be a pointless exercise altogether. As such any criticism surrounding this has zero credence

[@alex4daddy1]

Hello Joe do you still have your GTS i am in the market 991. 911 GTS 2015. Your GTS is beautiful Sir.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Yes, I still have my GTS and still love it.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Thanks for the compliment. I’ll do an update video on the car soon.

[@garycarlson6005]

Joe How have your tires held up on the GTS

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

The rear summer tires wear out faster than the front tires. The fronts seemed to have lasted about twice as long than the rears. Having said that, I have had to get new rear tires due to punctures in the first few years of ownership. Picked up a nail. Since I purchased a wheel and tire warranty, the damaged tires was repaired under warranty. If I recall correctly, in 6 years of ownership, I have had to buy one set of rears and later, one set of fronts, out of my own pocket, separate from the warranty.

[@shreedevi2005]

I think you need to switch from venti to short on your Starbucks brews. I have a 996 with no cup holder. Coffee cup is held near crotch. lol Beautiful car.

[@a.c.e.7568]

Joe, real sports cars do not have cupholders. LOL My 993 doesn't but my 991.1 Carrera 4 GTS does. I too am not overly impressed by the PCM, maybe because I am not ultra familiar with it. But I'd like to transfer some GPS waypoints to it from a memory stick instead of entering them separately. Don't know if I can do that.

[@mbrunocondello]

What I dislike about your car is that it’s not in my garage!! Top car bro -

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

LOL! Thanks man. It's an awesome car!!!

[@MegaGecas]

Regarding that coffee thing fault. You've got the finest European car you can get, so please choose a European size of coffee, not a horse related bucket. Do you really need so much of this drink? Doesn't you Porsche wake you up?

[@PixelPusher1]

Holy shit this framerate is eye popping 👌

[@kerranz]

How about the gigantic reflection of the dash top in the windshield? That can't be a plus.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

That's an interesting observation. The camera picked that up but when I am driving, I don't see that reflection. Weird.

[@a.c.e.7568]

Missed the one-thing I hate about it. No oil level dipstick.

[@3333across]

Well I would have picked every single option that you have on that car the wheels are awesome the color is amazing and the car itself is just gorgeous good job

[@joeyoung3319]

ANYONE who would drive a GTS (or any Porsche sports car) in the snow: A) DOESN'T deserve to own one; B) SHOULD BE BARRED from owning one; C) CLEARLY has more dollars THAN SENSE.

[@gunnarelisigurjonsson2587]

The glass holder is European size cups.. not the huge US cups... So that is why...

[@LuckyDogGaming]

You could have bought a front axel lift option... EDIT: I wasn’t aware it was pre-owned, you didn’t pick the options,

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

The car was on the dealer lot, brand new but you are correct, I didn't pick the options. It was already specc'ed by the dealer.

[@LuckyDogGaming]

Joe Hutchinson Cool man! I actually drove a GTS just recently for a couple hrs. I used it in a video on my channel. I thought its was pre-owned because you mentioned it being worth your while to shop pre-owned. I’m going to sub right now man! You should check out my 911 vs Forza 7 vid if you have a chance. 😊

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I mentioned pre-owned because, A) I love this version of the 911 and B) now you can get one that has already depreciated, saving some money! I will definitely check out your channel. Cheers!

[@markjones8013]

I love caffeine, it’s addictive, it’s nice way to start a day, the only way perhaps, a drug nether the less. I love driving, it too is also like a drug, it keeps you high on youth and testosterone and whatever else floats your boat. What your creating here is a cocktail, if you like cocktails that’s great for those with high levels testosterone and imagination. Porsche is all about function, catering for coffee whilst driving a machine with a pedigree for racing is not at the forefront of technology, if it was it would be a Ford or something similar. I love coffee, I love Porsche, I also like service stations!

[@jasonnichols9440]

Rennline phone mount, the best! Love your vids :)

[@garyhsu5210]

911.2 GTS is far better, both in performance and look.

[@iluvcakes19]

Opening music is epic

[@James-hb6ee]

Nice video Joe. I agree about the buttons on the console. I like them. I am in the market for a 997 w/PDK and I don't like where they are placed on that series of Porsche. Too far of a reach. On the cupholders, Dude, drink less coffee! A small, black MickeyD is all I need. Don't need no gallon of Starbucks. :) Seriously though, you have a very nicely spec'ed GTS. Beautiful color.

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

Alright, alright, smaller cups. Excellent point. Here is the irony, since this video, I have given up coffee. Not due to comments on the video but for health reasons. I wanted to cut out the caffeine and sugar. When I go on long trips, I sometimes stop and get a bottle of water and that bottle won't stay stationary in the holder either. Which is my point, they are beautifully engineered but not very useful. I think the 991 console is better than the 997 console. I had the 997.2 and it was fine at the time. But now that I am in the 991.1, I really like the change. Having said that , the 997 is a great car overall. I loved it. Once you find one you like, I am sure you will be happy with it. Great car.

[@douglasgantt9548]

Love the car and the video. A beautiful automobile. Best wishes.

[@NAVMAN987]

Splitters are a wear item for cars like this. When I had to I always had a replacement on hand just in case!

[@gordonthomas4292]

Only Americans worry about cup holders for gigantic Starbucks dredge

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

I thought this article was apropos: 2020 Porsche 911 Interior Revealed-It Has a Real Cupholder! blog.caranddriver.com/2020-porsche-911-interior-revealed-it-has-a-real-cupholder/

[@ikigai47]

Center lock wheels are a huge turnoff. that alone puts the Carrera S over this for me. and not for the reason you list. because they're a pain to take off or even find a service place that has a tool for it, plus tougher getting after market wheels

[@mariodesmo]

DON'T drink (or especially eat)anything in your car. Problem #1 fixed. Replace the radio/head unit with a new top-of-the line Kenwood or Pioneer. They have Apple Car Play, and better Nav. Nice car; take care of it, don't drink or eat in it! Good Luck!

[@Baerchenization]

I think the Nav is still excellent.

[@tribe_called_oh]

Ehhh wrong answer... hit the sport exhaust button, don't touch anything, and just drive!

[@coryr9938]

Yeah let's rip out the head unit for one from Best Buy on a $150,000 Porsche.

[@peten6445]

I hate Porsche cup holder.

[@mukhailozubatyi8114]

cup holders are for espresso)

[@awhs5435]

gorgeous car, thanks for the video

[@oooo-mx5th]

Why would you want to change those beautiful wheels?

[@Joe_Hutchinson]

For autocross or track days some folks have a separate set of wheels with more aggressive rubber installed on them. Or, for the winter, a separate set of wheels with winter rubber installed on them. I love the black wheels that came with this car but with my previous 911, I had a spare set for the winter time use.

[@Onur.o]

That is the best spec on a 911 GTS!

[@masmainster]

Just buy a smaller soda, there ya go I fixed it. I guess they didn't figure that people wanted to drink out of a bucket when they were driving their cars.

[@seandenny1553]

You have to get a small cup of coffee and you have to hit every driveway at an angle like a Lowrider which sucks and I have the S I wish I had axle lift I’d be my only dream but you can’t add it.

[@seandenny2412]

It’s basic they made them for a small cup of coffee the big cup is too top heavy.

[@wastedyolk]

First your 991 is a beaut, but Who uses NAV/Maps in there cars theses days? I do agree though that PCM should be better.