What I Found On A Stranger's Laptop From eBay

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@suhas5214
@suhas5214 3 жыл бұрын
The most safest way to sell a used laptop is to run a software called DBAN, it writes random 0's and 1's until max, and deletes it 3 times. This is much more safer and effective than any of the other methods you mentioned. This whole process takes about 16hrs, making sure there isn't a peck of data on you.
@x0men
@x0men 3 жыл бұрын
if it's an SSD then just mine CHIA on it and done.
@heethjain21
@heethjain21 3 жыл бұрын
We can also do this via CMD/terminal of most major OS like Windows/Mac/Linux distris
@jackharold8379
@jackharold8379 3 жыл бұрын
Or the shred command on linux does the same thing but with every letter
@Amanullah-dx5uy
@Amanullah-dx5uy 3 жыл бұрын
What about deleting partitions and recreate and formating hard disk?
@b3ans4eva
@b3ans4eva 3 жыл бұрын
DBAN & DOD 5220.22-M (7 passes) is my preferred choice of destruction
@douglasburnside
@douglasburnside 3 жыл бұрын
To be absolutely secure, remove the hard drive and smash it with a large hammer. Gather up the pieces, and burn them. Take the ashes from the fire and put them in a bucket of acid. Finally, get a boat and in the middle of the night take the bucket of acid at least 10 miles offshore. After you make sure there are no other boats in the area (a good radar set will help) pour the acid into the water while traveling over a distance of at least one mile. At that point you can be at least 70% sure that very little of your data will be recoverable.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that figure is more likely to be 63% based on the processes aforementioned. To reach 70%, one would have to add an extra step: burn the hammer that you used to smash the hard drive, as some data may have been transferred to the hammer via osmosis.
@harshvardhansavekar3546
@harshvardhansavekar3546 3 жыл бұрын
I'd challenge you as destroying the hard drive by a nuclear bomb is 83% secure as we cant destroy the marks that have been on the land
@ohno3730
@ohno3730 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom how can you burn the hammer if its metal (except for the handle in some cases)
@Embattled5211
@Embattled5211 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohno3730 heat anything hot enough, it burns away.
@somenamelastnaammee52
@somenamelastnaammee52 3 жыл бұрын
To be absolutely secure, remove the hard drive and smash it with a large hammer. Gather up the pieces, and burn them. Take the ashes from the fire and put them in a bucket of acid. Finally, get a boat and in the middle of the night take the bucket of acid at least 10 miles offshore. stanley: AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUTT
@TheDanaYiShow
@TheDanaYiShow 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine selling your used computer and seeing this video a few days later 😂😂 (recently found your channel and absolutely LOVE the content, keep it up!)
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Great to have you on board! And I know, I hope she doesn't find it accidentally 😂
@abhi22
@abhi22 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh that just happened to me
@random6033
@random6033 3 жыл бұрын
You guys didn't know that you can recover files that were removed?
@abhi22
@abhi22 3 жыл бұрын
@@random6033 nahh bro. i am a noob when it comes to tech.
@josephbrennan370
@josephbrennan370 3 жыл бұрын
@@random6033 this channel is educating me
@Elias-ib1qt
@Elias-ib1qt 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a harddrive from a fleemarket, and I did the same thing you did. I was able to recover all emails from some company email account which dealt with factory security. That was quite interesting.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you didn't sell that info!:)
@marjoa.8740
@marjoa.8740 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom i would have sold that info back to that company😂
@2024-t7t
@2024-t7t 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom be all on dark Web 😆
@handle535
@handle535 3 жыл бұрын
You are certainly brave. I was a computer forensic expert and I can say that there was some truly disturbing stuff on some of the computers I came across - and that is not even the obvious illegal stuff.
@thecoldglassofwatershow
@thecoldglassofwatershow 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm like what?
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT 3 жыл бұрын
Examples or it didn’t happen 😆
@chardibinx
@chardibinx 2 жыл бұрын
You’re a tease Trevor.
@dennykeaton9701
@dennykeaton9701 2 жыл бұрын
@@MisterK-YT Unfortunately it probably did happen
@ebutuoy0312
@ebutuoy0312 Жыл бұрын
Guess it relates to killing/violating/ decapitating people/animals/insects in horrific ways
@SouveraineMiaa
@SouveraineMiaa 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think having her in person would be great, this is highly personal and even a bit humiliating But yes I think you should contact her to explain This video was great, as usual your content is highly qualitative
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man. If someone called me and told me they had all that information on me I would have wished they didn't tell me that.
@kerbatonbaton8108
@kerbatonbaton8108 3 жыл бұрын
he can just send her a link with this video ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@renenetatm8222
@renenetatm8222 3 жыл бұрын
@@kerbatonbaton8108 please don't tell me you would open a link sent by a stranger.
@kerbatonbaton8108
@kerbatonbaton8108 3 жыл бұрын
@@renenetatm8222 I will tell you whatever i want to tell you and you will listen to it and accept it
@Dudelikescake
@Dudelikescake 3 жыл бұрын
Use google virus total on incoming links
@cathlinivana
@cathlinivana 3 жыл бұрын
I cant emphasize enough how this channel is educational, entertaining and confusing all at once.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha, thank you for your support!
@theonejmv
@theonejmv Жыл бұрын
just like you :P
@averagehelper
@averagehelper 3 жыл бұрын
Lately, I'm of the opinion that education is more important than a slight scare. That way there's one more educated person in the Jungle who can help educate their friends. I vote you find her and explain the situation and the potential dangers. There are good ways to broach the subject such that she's likely to be willing to learn how in the future to treat digital data safely.
@x0men
@x0men 3 жыл бұрын
I vote find her too, especially now that you've uploaded this video first and announced your intention is purely educational. If all goes well, I expect to see you and *Helen* at a TED talk telling people about how much they should care about the things they use every day and don't just brush it off as "not a tech person".
@BlenderDefender
@BlenderDefender 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm voting for telling her about that too. It might seem a bit creepy, but I'm pretty sure you find a way to tell her about that in a way, that she 1. understands your intents are to help and educate and 2. doesn't find that whole story creepy. You've uploaded this video to a channel with 55k subscribers, so if she finds out about that herself one day, it might be even more creepy and I wouldn't like to talk about her behind her back.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to have to listen to you guys... Let me speak with my team.
@045sonalvishwakarma8
@045sonalvishwakarma8 3 жыл бұрын
And as a proof you have this video to showcase
@OmDahake
@OmDahake 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom you should definitely inform her and let her know and give her advice how to prevent it from happening in future
@sykoteddy
@sykoteddy 3 жыл бұрын
Once when I lived in an apartment complex I found a laptop in the trash in the basement. Since I like to reuse old electronics, I took it and was exited to see if there were any private files on it. Not only did it have a lot of private photos, but also a DVD in the player full of private photos. What made me surprised is that it was owned by a woman that worked as a security guard. It's to me very tragic that a person working in security don't realize how easy it is to recover. It wasn't even deleted. But she was lucky I found it and not someone that would use her information in a malicious way.
@MisterK-YT
@MisterK-YT 3 жыл бұрын
Based on your tattoos and calling yourself “psycho teddy,” it’s probably better she doesn’t know it was you who found it lol. Guess it just goes to show that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover; or its username/pfp.
@funkyfranx
@funkyfranx Жыл бұрын
Your lucky _I_ found your laptop and not some creep! _I_ only look through your private information for curiosity!
@danishdarkstar3250
@danishdarkstar3250 3 жыл бұрын
That's it, I'm burning my electronics to ashes once I'm done with them.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Oops
@tanmaygupta6751
@tanmaygupta6751 3 жыл бұрын
Destroying just the ssd and hdd should be enough
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 3 жыл бұрын
You only need to burn your storage. CPU will only have few megas of data, and it will be deleted after the power is of
@notuxnobux
@notuxnobux 3 жыл бұрын
you are going to need a lot of fire power to melt the metal 🤣
@unicodefox
@unicodefox 3 жыл бұрын
If you were wondering why wav files seemed to extract fine, but MP3 files turned into a bunch of random noise. Both types of files are very resistant to corruption, In the case of WAV files, as long as you've got the the very start of the file, it'll just start reading data and play it, and multiple files could have been mixed into one, resulting in the very long tracks. The same thing also applies to MP3 files, however MP3 files are more common to use a wide variety of quality levels than WAV, so the first bit of data it found might bave been low quality, and the next part of data was high quality, and since high quality means less time in the same amount of data, you get what sounds like really sped up audio.
@DaXande135
@DaXande135 3 жыл бұрын
There also were some photos of vinyl records on the harddrive, so I assume that those long WAVs were some digitized LPs. @Sumsub Btw. you don't have to digitize CDs since they are already a digital format. Also "CD" is the short for "compact disc" - so saying "digitize CD discs" makes no sense.
@sstoi
@sstoi Жыл бұрын
or maybe they weren't corrupted in the first place, the guy was interested in making electronic music
@charginginprogresss
@charginginprogresss 10 ай бұрын
The reason wav were untouched and mp3 were corrupted is because wav files are raw uncompressed pcm format, while mp3 are compressed.
@TusharAnandfg
@TusharAnandfg 3 жыл бұрын
don't contact Helen, if she contacts the police (because of her passport if not anything else), you would probably get unnecessarily heckled by the police, especially if the officer in charge doesn't realize what you actually did and mistakes you for a scam artist.
@noticedneko
@noticedneko 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he didn't do anything illegal. I wouldn't worry.
@FelixFranz
@FelixFranz 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with not contacting her. Especially non tech-savvy people are not even remotely aware of the issues demonstrated with this video, but actually need the advice given and awareness raised by it. Also this channel is a convincing display of the motive of contacting. For sure, she'll be seriously rattled by the huge amount of details she (or family member) inadvertently handed to a stranger for couple 100£. Apart from that, the author was careful to not publish any identifying information about her/him.
@shinomiya89
@shinomiya89 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't do anything illegal. The computer belongs now to him, and if the older owner left his personal data on it, it is his own fault. The police would probably use this video as an example to open people's eyes.
@FelixFranz
@FelixFranz 3 жыл бұрын
@DailoxAny reasoning about her desire is pure speculation. But we can reason about the choice in question. Not contacting her then leads to her being in blissful unawareness of being the main character in this story. At least for now, maybe even forever. But most probably someone she knows connects the dots and tells her. In the meantime, she or family and friends arguably did the same mistake with mixed outcomes. That said, what is Bradley working for, if not raising people's awareness to those "blindspots" people have, leaving them vulnerable? If she's being made aware now, however, she might be shocked and scared, but in a sense she got lucky to get some expert advice to not make this and similar mistakes again. It's even on KZbin, so she herself can even help others avoid a similar or even worse incident. On the other hand, she could react strongly, ignore any goodwill and try to shift all the blame of her current problems on this channel. In the end, nothing actually happened and it was her mistake in the beginning making it possible. This brings us back kind of to the first outcome. Is it worth the try?
@crimsoncowboy7152
@crimsoncowboy7152 3 жыл бұрын
and don't contact her because it's fucking creepy too
@albacanizareshernandez278
@albacanizareshernandez278 3 жыл бұрын
By contacting her and showing this video, she would see the important piece of information missed out and how she can take better decisions with her private information. This is what the channel is about, isn’t? Love your work!
@imranshahriar9572
@imranshahriar9572 3 жыл бұрын
Your way of talking is very charismatic, Bradley! Don't forget us when you become very famous:l I am sure that's a matter of time! I wish you the best :)
@atsheol508
@atsheol508 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignoreme1141 Yeah as your user states, I'm gonna ignore ya
@Wulfieman
@Wulfieman 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignoreme1141 What are you on about mate? Did you forget to take your medication?
@killercon2735
@killercon2735 3 жыл бұрын
how can i learn his way of talking?anyone know how?
@death1weller
@death1weller 3 жыл бұрын
Yall take easy on@@ignoreme1141, he might have some experience with a creep with similar physical features or behavior, therefore they have a sensitive trigger for it now. No one knows.
@rdzik2367
@rdzik2367 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know why I confuse him with Jack Gordon though their content is totally different.
@GoldInforcer
@GoldInforcer 3 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant video! I can't believe something this high quality is free. I definately think that you shouldn't try to contact Helen, though.
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 3 жыл бұрын
AND WHAT TYPE of quality should be on charge. AND more important : how many times and on how many levels should be charged
@kukulroukul4698
@kukulroukul4698 3 жыл бұрын
oh , by the way IM AN ADULT ! trust me ;)
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... But I have to listen to my audience! Most people disagree...
@cjay2
@cjay2 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom You don't 'have' to listen to anyone. Do what you feel like doing. Your audience could all be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time in history. My opinion is do NOT try to get in touch with her. Leave it lie. You made the video. It's enough.
@philcooper9225
@philcooper9225 3 жыл бұрын
Google: Oh you've paid more than you know, kid.
@jeffwalker7185
@jeffwalker7185 3 жыл бұрын
Earlier this year my Dell laptop needed to go in for a minor repair. It had two hard drives - a SSD for the OS and a spinning drive for data. Before I sent it off, I swapped out both drives. I had upgraded the SSD to one with a larger capacity, so the smaller SSD had the laptop's original OS. The replacement spinning drive was a bare drive. As the repair was fairly minor, I was expecting it back. I just took the drives out to save backing them up in case anything happened in transit or in case the repair shop needed to re-install windows on the SSD. As it happened, the repair shop could not get hold of a part needed - they kept pushing the return date back. Ultimately, this took too long and the laptop was written off. I was so glad that I did not leave my original drives in the laptops as I did not have time from booking the repair to the laptop being collected to do a secure wipe of both drives.
@AwokenEntertainment
@AwokenEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me never want to sell and old computer.. scary stuff - keep up the good inforrming content!
@Bosolevu
@Bosolevu Жыл бұрын
Your accent is amazing. You speak super clearly and very grammatically correct. I have no idea why you stopped recording, you shouldn't have.
@aaronjamt
@aaronjamt 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the good ole' keep-or-destroy-the-hard-drive method too. When I've sold or gotten rid of computers, I've kept the drives for this reason. It also has the secondary benefit of allowing you to relive your past by looking through your old files or even booting up the old OS on a current computer or VM (assuming it's not Windows XP because that will probably never ever boot on a computer other than the original... not like I've tried or anything :P)
@nikolayio1764
@nikolayio1764 3 жыл бұрын
Just microwave it, legit the only way to destroy completely a HDD 😂
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225
@viiltelijamurhaaja7225 3 жыл бұрын
i would format the drive with zeroes. and you shouldnt use used hdd or ssd anyway. you never know if it will fail
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
I've gotten an XP machine to boot on different hardware before, i took the drive from a Toshiba and dumped it inside an RM, it booted up but threw a fit and deactivated windows. But it still booted up with the 30 day trial.
@aaronjamt
@aaronjamt Жыл бұрын
@@lukedavis436 I was referring to booting a more modern machine using the XP drive (which obviously does not work), even my 2005 Dell OptiPlex desktop machine won't boot my old XP laptop's drive.
@7ksoexx867
@7ksoexx867 3 жыл бұрын
I have 0 idea how this channel hasn’t blown up yet, keep it up even if it may be discouraging you’re not getting the exposure that you deserve, you’ll make it, hopefully soon.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@DiamondBroPlayz
@DiamondBroPlayz Жыл бұрын
(Not insulting Elliot, or calling your channel bad)
@thecomedian4136
@thecomedian4136 3 жыл бұрын
Impeccable English and communication. Good flow of information. Clever and appropriate jokes. Very presentable speaker. Perfect audio and video quality. Very professional and fact-based assumptions. Your channel is just... perfect! Please, keep up the good content. Valentino.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Valentino! We're really pleased to hear this. ❤️
@anta-zj3bw
@anta-zj3bw 3 жыл бұрын
This started out slow but gained enormous momentum. EXCELLENT presentation! Thanks!
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hecthorns
@hecthorns 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing the Internet, this video will probably reach Helen or her son eventually. I just hope they don't get too upset regardless of who gets in touch with them first Great video as always, Bradley
@x0men
@x0men 3 жыл бұрын
6 degrees of separation, that's all it takes.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I think we're niche enough for her to never find out... :)
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
At least, I hope so....
@AniBAretz
@AniBAretz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom And, yet, niche is exactly what is needed to find you out. Otherwise, you'd be like a needle in a haystack.
@EgoChip
@EgoChip 11 ай бұрын
Every time I have sold or given away a computer I have physically removed all the storage media. Simply reinstalling an OS is never enough, not even on an SSD. There is always a chance you will leave traces of data behind that can be used maliciously by the wrong person. If you need to include a drive, you can pick up a reasonable sized SSD for around £20 that you can install Linux on (a brand new hard drive included could also be a selling point), so it is working for the recipient on arrival. Then they can do whatever they want, and you have no data issues to worry about.
@michelangeloobrien
@michelangeloobrien 3 жыл бұрын
Well, given the amount of info on Laptop #2, it's good that you got a hold of it rather than someone malicious.
@KiyoshiKatu
@KiyoshiKatu 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely an important thing for people to be aware of. Good share, good to see this getting in front of people. Modern society can get real scary because of things like this. Data security is important!
@samdropmusic
@samdropmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right, Eric.
@opticalbeast4947
@opticalbeast4947 3 жыл бұрын
That first laptop is like a prehistoric fossil. It still had a Floppy Disk slot. I remember this abandoned mobile home that had been abanoned for 7 years now, I was hired to dismantle it and was allowed to take whatever I wanted from the house. And I found a shite Alienware, heavy af laptop. And some of the stuff I found on it was disturbing. A ton of Anime porn, some beastiality, and some stuff that made me think the past owner was a bit of a stalker.
@bwoo6223
@bwoo6223 Жыл бұрын
It great to hear someone who can speak English this is why private education is good
@_GhostMiner
@_GhostMiner 3 жыл бұрын
*The files revealed the second laptop is older than we thought.* *The original system was Windows XP and then updated to Windows 7*
@blubaylon
@blubaylon 3 жыл бұрын
This is random, but nice profile picture! I really like what you did with the colour combination and the text! Although I think it's missing a logo, since the name is already written in your username. I'm a graphic designer, I could probably design a cool logo for your channel if you want. If you're interested make sure to let me know :)
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@_GhostMiner
@_GhostMiner 3 жыл бұрын
@@blubaylon quite late, but anyway... I used to have "logo" of Minecraft head, but I'm not really doing Minecraft content anymore, so i removed it to make it more neutral and available for new other things.
@TheFoxholeLife
@TheFoxholeLife 3 жыл бұрын
I once checked the recycle bin of a computer in an internet cafe. It contained a copy of a woman's CV, a textfile with her gmail, linkedin and facebook username and password and another folder with a nude pic of her. I still wonder, whether she got the job that she applied for.
@Dontbootit
@Dontbootit 2 жыл бұрын
Then everyone clapped
@allthegearnotaclue
@allthegearnotaclue 2 жыл бұрын
Depends if she sent the pic I guess.
@himalthapa1274
@himalthapa1274 5 ай бұрын
@@allthegearnotaclue haha 😂😂 good one
@grulple5863
@grulple5863 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a follow up vid of a walkthrough cleaning process? A lot of videos are not as high quality and information packed as this one.
@samrandoms2159
@samrandoms2159 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm 'Helen' and yes, I gave that to my nephew a few years ago who later sold it you and- Just kidding. I think another facet of data protection you guys should totally cover could be on impersonation scams. Love the video!
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын
Well played turn at the end, very well played 🤯
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
You scared me for a moment there...
@sorackee2512
@sorackee2512 3 жыл бұрын
had us in the first half...
@starlet5350
@starlet5350 3 жыл бұрын
This is James Bond meets (more) sophisticated technology🙌.
@lowwastehighmelanin
@lowwastehighmelanin 3 жыл бұрын
No this is more Q's wheelhouse
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
You should see my suits bro
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 'matrix print' flannel with shoes made out of reclaimed motherboard leather. Goodyear welted with WIRES.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Jk. I think I spend too much time in the comments section.
@starlet5350
@starlet5350 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sumsubcom this is gold😂😂
@TomTheEnglishPicker
@TomTheEnglishPicker 3 жыл бұрын
Also that is some crazy eBay packaging for a cheaper laptop. The person will have paid a fortune if sent via Royal Mail.
@kylie5741
@kylie5741 3 жыл бұрын
Contacting Helen could be a good idea so that she doesn't make the same mistakes again
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 3 жыл бұрын
She might think this guy is a stalker or something. I'm just saying, it will be hard to explain this in a way that makes it sound normal.
@mnurrreza
@mnurrreza 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorcoran8768 I think, less explanation and just let this video talk.
@FelixFranz
@FelixFranz 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcorcoran8768 Whatever she thinks or makes out of it, it's her choice. Ultimately she responsible of her life. Contacting her, would at least put her in position to actually make that choice. Otherwise maybe in the future, someone else will make that choice for her. Because opportunity, you know.
@StalkedByLosers
@StalkedByLosers 3 жыл бұрын
Helen was probably not ignorant about her data, she likely had her laptop stolen. The laptop then spent a new but brief life ripping illegal Hindustani music and popular movies. Then it made its way on Ebay.
@iyeetsecurity922
@iyeetsecurity922 3 жыл бұрын
I'd have put all the photos in a zip file and emailed it to him from a burner account with the title _"I know...."_
@jonastjepkema
@jonastjepkema 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, such an amazing video! Great information to everyone about why privacy and personnal info is so important to protect and take seriously. I really love that you share this information in such a great and entertaining format! P.S. I think you should contact Helen. I will frigthen her, but it will also make her much more aware of the problem and she will probably not do it again and talk about it around to her close circle
@yessr7535
@yessr7535 3 жыл бұрын
If you havent contact her still, i feel the best way to aproach her would be to link her to this video telling her that you did this with the intent of educating people to take care of their data and you blured everything to make sure her private info isnt on the web and that you are sorry that she was the example
@Muscles_McGee
@Muscles_McGee 3 жыл бұрын
Yes contact her. Ask if she wants to be a part of your internet video and make a followup with her and the other one. It'll be fun
@JLFamilySong
@JLFamilySong 3 жыл бұрын
A technology refresh at my company replaces all servers, desktops, networking gear, etc. The last tech refresh we had over 700 drives. We had an onsite shredding truck where I had to witness all 700 + drives go through the shredder. We do use the NSA's erase program for single one-off hard drives as needed. I must admit watching the hard drives go through the shredder was pretty cool even though it took half a day and made a lot of noise. We take security very seriously.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
The place i used to work claimed we took security really seriously but uhh.. We never kept devices up to date... Users kept using their work machines as personal ones so many dodgy extensions where installed... Yet they wouldn't let me take older Computers for my collection, even if i removed the Hard Drives and even the RAM at a stretch (for some reason they strongly believed ram stored data the same way as an SSD). So many XP machines went to waste... Even a Thinkpad with all the parts i needed to fix my own!
@iphantommenace
@iphantommenace 3 жыл бұрын
just delete the whole data and forget helen, leave her in peace
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you.
@diegue
@diegue 3 жыл бұрын
@@mjn5016 I think he should contact her, telling her the risks of what she did and how to avoid it next time. Maybe a formal email or something like that, cyber-security awareness is something we should promote... Because, imagine she sells another computer in a few years but now it isn't a white hat guy, she would get in trouble just because she didn't know this was a thing. With just an email she can prevent from stuff like this.
@jorgemtds
@jorgemtds 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is important for "Helen" to be made aware of her insecure IT habits. She needs to LEARN how to properly ERASE a disk or dispose of it.
@youreright3664
@youreright3664 2 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to find an informative, amusing video content and especially a video does not start with, "What's up guys" or "What's going on guys". On top of that.... well dressed, well spoken, comprehensible presenter, that doesn't try and make his voice sound like a Darlek...
@kislaykumar1331
@kislaykumar1331 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I tell my family to not to sell electronic items even if it stop working.I just keep them at safe place in my house.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Or destroy them with fire
@aurum3747
@aurum3747 3 жыл бұрын
Old electronics should be sold for re-use or repair to reduce e-waste Firstly no one is actually doing this kind of thing (at least 99.9% of the time) and even if you're that worried about it you can just sell it without the hard drive or perform and actual full wipe
@andreyv116
@andreyv116 3 жыл бұрын
Disassemble to find the circuit board and destroy the flash storage and/or other storage hardware. The rest is generally safe to dispose of
@eurko111
@eurko111 3 жыл бұрын
@@aurum3747 You're missing a few extra 9s
@justanormaluser1535
@justanormaluser1535 3 жыл бұрын
That’s definitely not a good idea at all. An iPhone for example can very easily be securely wiped in minutes. The OS and hardware is so locked down that nothing is possible with this data. On a laptop, just remove the hard drive or as others mentioned wipe it securely. Not at all getting rid of something sucks. You loose out on hundreds of dollars for your old phone/computer, it’s bad for the environment and it does not benefit less fortunate people that would be happy to buy a decent used phone for a fair price. Just wipe your data securely and there is nothing to worry about. I mean Someone looking through data like this is already incredibly rare. This is like 1 out of 100k
@cheesygerit2299
@cheesygerit2299 3 жыл бұрын
19:50 here is when it really hit me how insane much u can really find out bout people just with sum leftover data i always reuse my storage for other purposes and dont sell em so ion worry personally but that's scary asf to think bout what a determined person could do with such leftovers great video btw and thanks for keeping an eye on our less tech educated people🙃
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support man!
@Sky4Jus
@Sky4Jus 3 жыл бұрын
That one dislike was probably that computer's owner
@smeggerknee2448
@smeggerknee2448 3 жыл бұрын
The second one was his ex-wife who has found out about his browsing history. Because .....she discussed the holiday they took......with all her friends..... and eventually one of them recognised the photos even with the blurring. and then sent "helen' this link. and the rest is (internet) history.
@droidmaze
@droidmaze 3 жыл бұрын
@@smeggerknee2448 Now the family of 5 people disliked.
@Strikery
@Strikery 3 жыл бұрын
@@droidmaze the family has grown to 16 😱
@theencryptedpartition4633
@theencryptedpartition4633 3 жыл бұрын
It's 48 now, damn I guess this is the whole family, like relatives, cousins
@Beetless
@Beetless 3 жыл бұрын
@@theencryptedpartition4633 yeah all 137
3 жыл бұрын
Rule of thumb: Private devices and drives: Format them completely, then sell. Private person of interest: Don't sell any storage device that has contained critical information. Company: Never sell anything with a storage device included. Remove all storages and completely destroy them using nails or a shredderer. In general: Never sell any storage device that contained enough critical information to compromise you. There are people who lost thousands of dollars because they stored their crypto wallet or passphrases on sold devices. If you are a person of interest and someone really want your data, they will get it if you give them a storage medium. Even completely formatted drives can be restored with a lot of effort, if one considers it to be worth it.
@AidenRKrone
@AidenRKrone 2 жыл бұрын
If I sold an old laptop to someone who was able to recover enough data to identify me, I _wouldn't_ want them to track me down and tell me about it. That would scare and embarrass me. My only wish (or hope, really) is that they would respect my privacy and permanently delete the files.
@tanvirkhan6687
@tanvirkhan6687 3 жыл бұрын
Terrifying scenario but necessary knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
@smeggerknee2448
@smeggerknee2448 3 жыл бұрын
My family think it is odd that I don't send my old computers off to recycling,but keep them in the loft after they die. Your video vindicates my decision somewhat. I suggest you do a follow_up using the following iphone android tablet old nokia ....but.... ask for your IRL friends to volunteer an old device AFTER they view this video. Then ask them to review the new presentation with you so they can decide HOW you present your findings. As....even those blurred pictures and vague hints are enough to get those former users in 'difficulty' and I wouldn't want those former owners knowing that you were the instigator otherwise they might very easily come after you.
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing i ever encountered was pretty tame... I purchased a Windows XP Novatech (Advent/Mitac/Medion) 8599 from a Carboot sale (flea market) for 5 Pounds, it works a treat and comes with lots of cool old programs I've archived. However the thing was loaded with at least 10 Gigabytes of Gay Pr0n, Needless to say the computer now has an almost exact copy of its original OS... Same programs and OEM stuff... No pics tho. It works perfectly!
@onurbespinar
@onurbespinar Жыл бұрын
One small tip, Burgaz in Bulgaria and Burgaz island in Turkey are different places. Owner of this laptop definately spent his holiday in Fethiye Muğla and İstanbul. Ancient ruins in one of the photos is Sunken City Ruins of Simena. Owner of this laptop mostlikely started journey from İstanbul ended up in Fethiye than Antalya which is a common tourist route.
@lowwastehighmelanin
@lowwastehighmelanin 3 жыл бұрын
Please leave "Helen" alone. Hopefully she'll see this and learn to be more careful. Edit: I used to work at Apple. If you need help removing all of the crap off your Mac call Apple Care. Macs have things built in to avoid this and have government level encryption built in
@patrik5123
@patrik5123 3 жыл бұрын
Government level encryption? That's marketing speak if I ever heard it. Literally no one uses anything less than "government level". Macs use AES128 & SHA-1 for Filevault. So not great. But it's been a few versions of OSX since I last checked so hopefully that has improved. In either case, using encryption will make a format much more efficient since the data isn't readable to begin with.
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrik5123 my laptop uses MILITARY GRADE encryption. PEW! PEW! PEW! 😂🤣
@shinomiya89
@shinomiya89 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrik5123 It is also well know that the people working at apple stores, don't know anything at all about the devices. Only the specs maybe.
@Izzy-vz6iu
@Izzy-vz6iu Жыл бұрын
​@@bufordmaddogtanneni know this brand 😂
@LikeMinds_
@LikeMinds_ 3 жыл бұрын
I would tell Her, not to put it in a scary way but explaining your position, blog and stance.. where you were taking it - educationally. Ignorance is curable! Information sharing through education would be the best possible way you could pay forward for the great contribution she provided! Help her grow through this 🤘🏻
@itachi2011100
@itachi2011100 3 жыл бұрын
You should certainly inform her so that she can take better care of cleaning up her tracks when she gets rid of her current devices.
@cvspvr
@cvspvr Жыл бұрын
speaking of talking about harry potter with helen, i once heard about a guy who had a crush on a girl, so he hacked her, found out all of her interests, and used that information to win her over
@amansinghchauhan1142
@amansinghchauhan1142 3 жыл бұрын
This is seriously dangerous 😰. Great education video
@markharrisllb
@markharrisllb 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should get in touch and point her to this video. I’m glad I’ve never sold a hard disc in my life, however I recently bought an old laptop for Ubuntu and replaced the hard disk with a SSD. Hmm tempting! Brilliant video.
@MusicToTheEars141
@MusicToTheEars141 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should contact Helen and tell her of this matter. She needs to learn that she can't make this mistake again. This is a very dangerous situation. What if she had credit card numbers or passwords to online accounts? What if she reveals her address and someone goes to her house and robs her? Contact, lightly explain the situation, and wait to see what her response is.
@vita.miinii
@vita.miinii 3 жыл бұрын
good will might not seen that way by other people :/
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it will be very good... I'm against it, but we have to listen to our audience.
@ibryan22
@ibryan22 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, tell Hellen she should be more careful with her tech devices
@eternialogic
@eternialogic 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is dead HDD drives, where you cannot directly delete the files. Even if you drill multiple holes in the hard drive, the data is still mostly there. With dead SSDs you can just buy a HV tesla coil or smash the dies with a hammer or a special shredder.
@yojirex6374
@yojirex6374 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of stuff do you have on your pc 😂
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 Жыл бұрын
Uhhh.... What kind of person is going to go as far as try to read data from a drilled platter? Lmao
@al-gv7mq
@al-gv7mq 3 жыл бұрын
man this channel is so good, actual real life examples and quality explanations :)
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like our videos!
@mldchan
@mldchan 3 жыл бұрын
How to prevent this: Run a full zero fill before selling the laptop. The same method is effective if there is a virus on the computer.
@officialshivertrip
@officialshivertrip 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is criminally underrated.
@DeadDrop6109
@DeadDrop6109 3 жыл бұрын
Just pull the HDD and drill holes through it. They are cheap enough to just throw a new one in there if you're trying to sell the laptop. Yes it eats into your profit margin, but if you have stuff on there that could potentially result in identity theft, the new $50 HDD is a no-brainer. You actually could put that in your advertisement "brand new out of the box HDD installed".
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. As much as I don't like wastage, with the liability that comes with leaked personal info, I would rather not face that risk. No amount of "you can't sue me" would work for that, and if anything could backfire. As a bonus, that gives the perfect opportunity for a SSD upgrade where one can be done, as well as the "new drive included" selling point!
@fetchstixRHD
@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@creepysmilingcarl9742: Agreed too, but I'm assuming the situation given is that you are in possession of that persons' laptop and are reselling it?
@johncullen965
@johncullen965 3 жыл бұрын
I found an sd card on the pavement right outside my work, the photos didnt contain geo data but i was able to contact the owner via some of the pics on the card. Felt creepy to trawl through it, but was determined to return it. Contacted the owned and returned soon afterwards. Felt great to do a good deed
@danieliusj9192
@danieliusj9192 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I feel like I learn something every single time.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@lilgobletpcmr562
@lilgobletpcmr562 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly underrated channel, love your work homie
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support man!
@e.s.l.1083
@e.s.l.1083 3 жыл бұрын
oh... to randomly clicking on this video 'out of the blue' and disccovering (by recognizing The Cats) that you are Helen
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Are you HELEN?
@e.s.l.1083
@e.s.l.1083 3 жыл бұрын
I admit, by some kismet, i was hoping you would ask...
@ExpDubaiMichaelMagee
@ExpDubaiMichaelMagee 3 жыл бұрын
Man your content is top notch
@NameZei
@NameZei 3 жыл бұрын
When you expect a short talking off for doing something but instead your parent makes a whole essay exposing you for 25 minutes
@pizzamizza2375
@pizzamizza2375 3 жыл бұрын
Best option is to take the old harddrive out and replace it with a fresh new one keep the old hard drive then install windows on the new hard drive then sell the pc
@almostanengineer
@almostanengineer 3 жыл бұрын
Professional Botanist, Nah, you need GeoWizard, he’ll pinpoint that location from a single photo.
@ericgulseth74
@ericgulseth74 3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Looks like western North America too me. The western, arid mountains. Northern Sierras, Cascades, into the Canadian Rockies. I know it's not very limiting, but hey, it's a start.
@pursuingpurity596
@pursuingpurity596 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you've already contacted 'Helen', but your definitely should. Even just sending her a brief explanation along with the link to this video would be good enough.
@SireSquish
@SireSquish 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine what you might find on a laptop abandoned at a repair shop, where the files haven't even been deleted.
@thecoldglassofwatershow
@thecoldglassofwatershow 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much how they found Hunter B’s laptop
@vyomgupta7582
@vyomgupta7582 Жыл бұрын
That song is from India, English lyrics would be, "That who gave the birth to you in this world, will take care of you."
@randomguff2954
@randomguff2954 2 жыл бұрын
You were most likely able to tell know the details of the previous owner without even turning the laptop on. It was probably written as the return address / sender on the box it was sent to you in. That said, good points about securely wiping a used PC.
@KristopherNoronha
@KristopherNoronha Жыл бұрын
most people sell their laptops as some sort of exchange/upgrade deal and those are wiped and resold. the average non-technical user probably doesn't know how to reinstall windows, and for something as cheap as this, probably won't even bother.
@dokuyaku
@dokuyaku 3 жыл бұрын
My phone were stolen few months ago and ... I had lot of stuff in there. Bad stuff I don't want anyone to ever see. I had an anxiety attack because my phone were unlocked, I knew it was possible for them to get so much from my phone. I tried to think ''it's ok, they will be deleting everything to sell it''. But, yep, my anxiety is coming back thanks :')
@brooklynyo8507
@brooklynyo8507 3 жыл бұрын
You say "thank god I'm one of the good guys right" like a bad guy
@nickk1624
@nickk1624 2 жыл бұрын
That's crazy. Years of history of someone's life in a laptop waiting to be deleted.
@cmdr-reflipd
@cmdr-reflipd 3 жыл бұрын
This is very easy on a windows hard drive, but in Linux with an encrypted volume, well good luck. Most linux distros use drive encryption as default.
@jacobhinchliffe6659
@jacobhinchliffe6659 3 жыл бұрын
whats distros encrypt by default, certainly not the most popular ones!
@MichaelVickery1
@MichaelVickery1 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I hope it helps many people. I just thought that I would point out that if you can view the image, then it is likely that the latitude, longitude, date, and time are recoverable with the image. Really the best approach for keeping your data out of the hands of others, follow the NSA's example of 7 overwrites, or to keep the hard drive and RAM when selling old equipment. To your question, yes, information can be captured from your RAM. It is a bit more involved and only reveals recent activity, but that activity just might be a login password or username.
@Waiel
@Waiel 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should make another part and tell “helen” about this and show her this video
@oligould8575
@oligould8575 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing to do is keep your old hard drives… I’ve kept every one of mine… get a usb adaptor and use them for extra data storage… put movies on them and plug them into modern tv’s to have a library of movies to watch whenever you like
@xasmaniusvolk8416
@xasmaniusvolk8416 3 жыл бұрын
0:15 the title should be "what happens when you don't overwrite your drive with zeros often enough" XD
@sjsubsjs1494
@sjsubsjs1494 3 жыл бұрын
By seeing your content what i can only say is UNDERRATED
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM 3 жыл бұрын
as someone with linux knowledge, I've deleted partition tables and still booted into grub recovery. so yeah 0 your drives.
@sammyfromsydney
@sammyfromsydney Жыл бұрын
Always physically destroy your disks before selling equipment. If it's a built-in drive, destroy the whole machine. It's not worth the money of selling it second hand. If you do that all you have to worry about is theft.
@NicMG
@NicMG 3 жыл бұрын
This is some next level CSI shizz bro!
@youssefzaghlol7825
@youssefzaghlol7825 2 жыл бұрын
I actually performed data recovery on an old pc of mine that I was installing linux on and accedentally wiped it completely thankfully all my pics where still there but it never dawned on me what if someone else got hold of my old drive and did the exact same thing. great video btw from the idea to the storytelling to the editing all on all one of the highest quality content I've watched
@-.-_._--
@-.-_._-- 3 жыл бұрын
Channels change their quality to the type this channel has when they reach like 5M subs but this!
@lennarddevries1637
@lennarddevries1637 3 жыл бұрын
definitely my new favorite channel, keep up the good work!
@nothingiseverperfect
@nothingiseverperfect 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE UR CONTENT IS SO GOOD PLZ DONT STOP AHHHHHH UR LIKE PHILIOSPHY TUBE BUT FOR TECH ITS SO GOOOD
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Ou, this is the kind of comment I LIKE
@bb0yth0r
@bb0yth0r 3 жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised what you can find. I once bought an old Mac Pro belonging to a church. It had an elderly woman’s social security, passport, resume, address, family photos, nudes, pretty much I knew her family, work history etc. Another hard drive I had found was an commercial engineering company it looked like they were developing a power source, weapons, or a really fancy pen tip. Had all her company structure and who’s who with pictures in a web chart, her family photos, etc. I’m not that type of person to keep it unless it was crypto, but I just Dban it after looking through, and repurpose it in gaming PCs.
@ruuyin6586
@ruuyin6586 3 жыл бұрын
I feel creeped out, knowing my stolen laptop is out there.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Yin. Hopefully they were looking for the hardware, not what's on it.
@hashemx1ify
@hashemx1ify 3 жыл бұрын
I do think you should make a video about how protect against this in details
@damneddude8299
@damneddude8299 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always! Sending Love!
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
And to you, my friend!
@anthonynorton666
@anthonynorton666 3 жыл бұрын
Six degrees of separation implies she already knows or is going to know through an acquaintance. You don't have to do anything.
@Sumsubcom
@Sumsubcom 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point.
@A_Casual_NPC
@A_Casual_NPC 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I was already keeping all my private document copies encrypted.
@patrik5123
@patrik5123 3 жыл бұрын
Your cookies aren't tho. Unless you encrypt the entire drive - which you definitely should.
@FelixFranz
@FelixFranz 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, even just using the default encryption settings of a modern OS is probably the best first line of defence against accidentally or unknowingly give personal information to strangers. Because of the factory enabled encryption of modern phones, this scenario is practically impossible. Even if the phone's memory was as easily to recover as a hdd is. I feel most/all the mentioned alternatives, though reasonable, are impractical when/if even properly implemented. Just notice the long time secure erase takes, even for modest amounts of data. And while it's sitting in the recycle bin, it's recoverable nonetheless. Well that's exactly the purpose of it!
@patrik5123
@patrik5123 3 жыл бұрын
@@FelixFranz I've had secure erase.enabled by default for years so I don't notice the time it takes anymore. I decided long ago that it was worth it.
@donotlike4anonymus594
@donotlike4anonymus594 3 жыл бұрын
Well i mean... you do realize everything has to be temporarily stored... Anything on ram dies pretty quickly since it's a high volatility memory And depending on the software you use to encrypt.. if files were allready stored on drive.. well most programs don't simply rewrite the same data as they encrypt but make a new encrypted file... Generally this is fine since the data is usually fairly quickly overwritten Also btw it's possible to extract the encryption key some times.. and so on
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 жыл бұрын
I once bought a secondhand media player and found compromising pictures of the previous owner's wife. I knew it was his wife because she was there when he sold it to me, and she introduced herself as such. I sent the guy a message that I had found "files you might consider personal". He answered "I backed up everything on it." So I figured either he knew what I had found and didn't care that much, or was blissfully ignorant and thought I meant his captured recordings (there were a few, as this player had a microphone and could record from FM broadcasts as well). But _someone_ put those pictures there, and it sure as hell wasn't me. Realizing it could have been _his wife_ that put them there, and not wanting to cause potential conflict, I deleted the photos and let the matter drop. I did keep the couple GB of music files he left, though.
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