What I Learned About Accessibility and Difficulty in Games

[@undeadaccountant]

Thank you for this. I’m not disabled, but it means a hell of a lot to me that someone can make a video talking about this shit. My brother is color blind, to a degree I can’t play a game of UNO with him without him getting confused sometimes. I know we’re adults now, but it means the world to me that my younger brother can still enjoy games because of settings like this.

[@athy8763]

you ever try a reskin of uno that makes the color types be something else instead? like having the theme of each be some different aesthetic or associated shape?

[@undeadaccountant]

@@athy8763 I haven’t, but this was also more of an issue years ago before such things existed.

[@stm7810]

braille uno cards are great for this, me and about half my family are degrees of blind, so usually the braille is good for getting the symbol right, but if your brother can remember 4 symbols to feel in the corner then that can work good. larger gaming stores usually have them.

[@undeadaccountant]

@@stm7810 Thanks for the info, that’d be really cool!

[@KindlyMino]

This was really thoughtful. I feel like all the times I have ever seen discussion around accessibility settings and easy mode it is from someone who has not experienced disability. This was really touching. I hope in the future more games will feature accessibility settings for your brother and all those who need it.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I appreciate it ♥ I hope accessibility will continue to be talked about because more and more people are adopting it.

[@hippy5py516]

Good video homie. I've never heard of kabuki syndrome and it was interesting to learn what it is. I'm glad your brother is still able to play video games thanks to kind developers and/or modders making a way for more people to enjoy a video game

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Me too ❤ I know sometimes games can be annoying with how broadly appealing games try to be with massively inclusive features, but honestly I appreciate it when those features are selectable as an option.

[@Zhakaron]

If you install Seamless Co-Op for Elden Ring, it takes you off of the Fromsoft servers, meaning you can have one cohesive co-op game together without worrying about invasions in the overworld or getting kicked at the end of a boss battle. Once off their servers, give Elden Ring Reforged a try, you can set difficulty levels at a bonfire, for fanatics that means making the difficulty harder, but for your brother, check special difficulties and there are a couple laid back ones he might enjoy, each one lists their changes to AI and stats when you select them.

[@micahpilgrim2320]

I can’t believe how underrated this channel is. Youre so well spoken and brought my attention to an issue I have never considered before. I hope you get the recognition you deserve frogwater

[@TheReZisTLust]

Is he underated? It just looks like he's a new channel and has so many subs already

[@enderboy_320]

I'm a Game Design student, and now I'm studying a subject which talks about accessibility and usability. This video opened my mind even more in a way that I didn't expect it to open, I think this discussion is great both for the consumer audience and for future generations of Game Designers like me. Thanks for the great work on this video man!

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Aw. Appreciate you ❤ I wasn't sure if my video had any insight to gleam but I'm glad so many people have resonated with my way of presenting my view.

[@kirbyatemydog1017]

I love souls-like games and in all of the discussions about the difficulty no one had made the point of better accessibility before. I'm officially pro easy/acessibility mode from now on. Great video

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm glad I could convince you! I hope easier modes remain just options rather than baked into games tho because for me, I love games that provide challenges.

[@varren5767]

Fantastic video, my froggy friend.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

♥

[@GrotesqueYT]

Amazing video. Simply, amazing. The story of your brother broke my heart (the interview at the end made me shed a tear, yet made my heart smile, he sounds like such a pure and happy soul) and this video truly opened my eyes to just how important accessibility is in games. This is an issue that needs more recognition, attention, and solutions in games, and it's honestly kind of shocking that this is as widespread of an issue that it is considering just how massive the gaming scene is nowadays. Oddly enough, most of the games that you listed at the end that you praised for having accessibility options, were indie games, whereas the ones that proved troublesome for your brother were AAA... all those dollars, and yet so many companies refuse to spend just a few more to make the game more accessible to the folks that really need that help... I could say more, but at that point I'd just be rehashing what you said in the video considering that you addressed the topic perfectly. Again, amazing video. Keep it up 🐸♥️

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I really appreciate it dude. ❤️ There are a number of AAA games that include accessibility options. Generally Japanese games have a bad record of it but Super Mario Odessey has a mode that leads you to the destination and my brother really needed that to beat it. I think a lot of Western games ease up on difficulty and provide more options beyond just difficulty like God of War, The Last of Us 2, and Doom Eternal, which I mentioned, provided a lot of assistance but it's still really tough for him. He started playing Crash 4 and it actually gives you a mask if you die at a certain checkpoint several times. They give you 2 if it keeps happening. Takes him an hour to beat a level but he's chipping away at it! I just wanted a video pushing accessible difficulties in the little way I can because a lot of people believe that it ruins the experience. I think they're just options. ❤️

[@abunchahoopla4392]

Won't lie... I'm kinda glad I wasn't the only one who teared up lol

[@YakAtax]

The push against accessibility comes from this weird push by gamers to hold their accomplishments over the heads of others. It makes me so frustrated when people shit talk these settings and claim there's no reason for it to be there. Like the massive hate campaign against Dead Space Remake's content warnings. "You're playing a horror game". Okay, sure. But that fails to take into account the people that are fine with the depiction of gore and such, but would be triggered by a depiction of suicide. It may not be a large majority, but those people do exist and it's great that they have that.

[@bigdaddyfrogstat]

Problem is when these warnings can be akin to spoilers. Like, one of my favorite stories has detailed depictions of child abuse, but it comes completely out of left field in a big genre switch so it was far more distressing and impactful for me. I think it would be better if there was an online database of entertainment detailing the possible triggers for those concerned.

[@stm7810]

Yes, like I'm fine to see dead humans or mutant abominations, but seeing animals like pigs and chickens being abused or their corpses sold is messed up for me. I see that too much IRL already. Or eye trauma, I've had a lot of surgery and tests on my eyes growing up and am at risk of them getting worse, so I get empathetic pain when someone else also is getting something done to their eyes.

[@stm7810]

@@bigdaddyfrogstat whilst does the dog die is a great database, people should be able to enable an option within the game to get these warnings.

[@Bee8467]

I agree so much! I have dcd (known as dyspraxia sometimes) and even though i am not technically disabled things like video games are harder for me and i always appreciate easier modes so i can you know actually enjoy playing the game and it makes me so angry how people treat these modes as “for babies” (also infantilizing neurodivergent and disabled people is a huge problem and this is a good example of that) and you can only play on the hardest modes or else your “weak”.

[@rivergamingandmore1577]

Yeah, I remember back when I saw clips of intense shooters like Halo and CoD that I saw that issue too and as someone who is disabled to some degree, it also infuriates me, treating people like that (who very much could be older than the person saying that) seems very backwards in logic, it sure interests me on what options there are in terms of games that have accessible features though (besides the ones mentioned in the video)

[@Dogflamingo]

Came here from Lextorias's "Perfecting Video Game Difficulty" video. Never heard about Kabuki syndrome, and your story with your brother was touching (especially the bit at the end)

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Glad you stopped by ♥ Also a friend of mine just showed me that video. Shocking to see that people in the wild watch me of their own volition lol

[@getyoteladz3536]

i have a disability that affects my motor skills and means i think fundamentally differently to most and so often miss 'obvious' solutions and cues in games but i adore video games !! i always play easy mode but that can still be hard and it sometimes feels like i can only play things like visual novels without a guide and low difficulty - its nice to see someone talking about this subject with care and experience :)

[@meemee0797]

More accessibility options in the game never hurt. Would really love to see more of these options being implemented properly in more variety of games.

[@TheDolanar]

Literally brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for making this. I don’t suffer from any disabilities but I’ve always felt that developers who don’t take the time to put in accessibility options are really missing a very important gamer community. There just something about seeing a smile in a persons face when a game just clicks for them and it’s no less important to do that for people with disabilities.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I show my bro anytime i see a new game he could possibly play. ❤️

[@Noremacius]

man I hope more people find this channel, criminally underrated. perspectives like this are a breath of fresh air

[@tyrwebster2986]

I watched your dark souls video right before this one. I'm someone who has put a lot of hours into most of them and I enjoy them but I have never played all the way thru any of em. During that video, I was thinking "no game is for EVERYONE" just based off different taste at least, and I even thought about accessibility while watching that dark souls video. So of course I had to hear your opinion on accessibility especially since it's the next video you made. Boy am I shook. You made a very successful dark souls video and then immediately said "dark souls should have an accessibility mode tho" in your next video. That's truly a Chad move. I will be telling my friends about you

[@bigfreakinfrog]

lol, I appreciate it. Ideally I would have made the title "Everyone Should Try Dark Souls" or some other less definitive statement but it was really for the clicks. Words like "best" or "worst" are much more exciting and it ended up working in getting attention! I thought I could approach it from an angle that Dark Souls was made with the intention for all kinds of people to play it; I should have focused more on that tbh. Whether or not it achieves that is definitely up for debate! I'm glad you watched the videos! It means a lot ♥

[@goosewithagibus]

Difficulty and accessibility is such a tough nut to crack and unfortunately I don't think we ever really will

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Prolly not lol. I'm always gonna prefer options tho.

[@SullyWar]

I'm a developer and came across this while looking for ideas on accessibility issues and seeing this just makes me want to work doubly hard on making sure that I get as much of those in as possible

[@BearBoyJW]

I've been learning more about how accessibility options in gaming and how important and good they are for people to be able to get to experience the games I've come to love and take for granted for being able to play with out the use of such option. I'm trying to learn how to really create games and also make sure that those games have some options that make it easier for people to enjoy my games and play them from start to finish with hopeful ease. So watching this video while studying this topic was very nice and wholesome.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Good luck to you! I wanna get into game dev stuff on my free time and make sure my siblings can play. I dont really know where to start lol

[@BearBoyJW]

@@bigfreakinfrog Thank you mate. I say it all just starts with a small idea and then you let it grow from there. Just don't let it get too out of control haha. I've learned it's ok to dream big so long as you understand how to realize those dreams piece by piece.

[@Surfer669]

I came over from Lextorias's video about "The Problem with Video Game Difficulty". Both his points and your points are very interesting and unique personal perspectives. Thanks for sharing.

[@GamingGal556]

When you said that Celeste had an option to slow down the game I can't tell you how that made me feel. I can't play hollow knight without slowing the game down to half speed through external means. I watch speedruns of Celeste, I think it's thematically wonderful but never thought there was a possibility that I could play it until now. Thank you.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

HELL YEAH!! I played a few levels but I need to actually finish it. It's really good.

[@Whurlpuul]

I never considered so many things that you said in this video, thanks for educating people about this.

[@howdyfriends7950]

hey frogwater! great video! if you still want to play a game like mario kart with your brother, you know mario kart 8 deluxe has a "steering assist" that can basically prevent you from falling off the track and into hazards and whatnot. you still maintain most of your control over the car, but it's like a stream of air sort of shepherds you towards the track if you're about to fall off, and there's like a constant pressure/nudge on your car that makes it face the right way, it's really nice, i would highly recommend it. i have friends with kids who are probably too young to be playing mario kart, and it's always a blast for them to be able to play on a level playing field with the adults. it also has an auto-accelerate feature in case you have trouble consistently holding down the A button, sometimes i turn that setting on because of my hands, and honestly I don't think i could play 250CC to save my life without steering assist

[@bigfreakinfrog]

We do play with it! Mario Kart 8 is one of those games he played a lot of so he can compete with me if he has that on. It's like playing with gutter railings at a bowling alley. Very helpful to give us a fair race.

[@HowlYeYe]

Thank you for making this well-considered commentary. I also appreciate when games treat accessibility not as something to be derided or talked down to, but another option to open up their games to a wider audience. I'm very much of the opinion that games do not have to compromise their vision in order to include more people. Surely, the creatives that are making these games can benefit from opening up their consideration to a larger audience so that more people can enjoy their art? There is always something more to learn. I think this just speaks to a more expansive notion of accomplishment. Mine does not have to be diminished for yours to be worthy of praise. If I have a harder time, at least in the end we can all share in the games we love. Again, thank you!

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm glad to hear you liked it! I love accessibility options. Others I know, not just my brother, start to pick up games when more are included.

[@stm7810]

Thanks for talking about this, whilst my disabilities are arthritis and legal blindness, I have siblings who are cognitively disabled. they deserve more game options that don't insult them, there should be more games that give an easy way for them to feel like a hero. A problem I have due to schizophrenia though is sometimes my brain will speed up and words sound slow and distorted. Whilst this is an advantage in combat sections since I get free bullet time, it ruins parts of dialogue or precise timing where you need to wait for the moment. if more games let you repeat dialogue without the NPC getting snarky that'd be great. more difficulty options is always good.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Hey thanks! I dunno if I communicated everything well. It's been a while since I made this, I just kinda wanted to advocate a bit for it. Always a fan of options, even if its half baked like a number adjustment to health or damage values. Like that dialogue issue, there's a lot of accessibility options I could have covered; I kinda just focused on "difficulty" in general.

[@stm7810]

​@@bigfreakinfrog we're glad you focused on difficulty since that's the 1 most people are irrationally against. it's important for many people. All because I found Touhou easy doesn't make it ok to exclude neurotypicals from the fun music and cute girls, and all because low vision makes parts of bioshocks combat hard doesn't mean I should be excluded from an interesting story about why capitalism is bad.

[@williamkingclift7324]

I think this video was honestly amazing and if you did more video essays about accessibility or whatever you want you would have a loyal viewer in me and probably other people in this community as well. Keep up the good work

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm glad I decided to open up notifications today and saw that ♥ I really like making the video!

[@nottoday9182]

Excellent video! If you havnt already Laura K. Buzz has a KZbin show called access-ability that talks about all kinds of different disorders and how we can make games more playable for folks with those. I reckon you'd like her stuff

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Thank you so much! I'll definitely check her out sometime!

[@jwsdreamland]

loved the lil interview at the end, your brother is an absolute trooper and i'm glad you're getting the chance to experience a precious hobby with him. godspeed to you both 👊

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

This channel is definitely going to blow up and I’m here for it.

[@AlwaysSolus]

really liked this video I hope more games add assessability options more often especally single player games which should be tailored for the player.

[@shafwa234]

I’m going to be learning about game development in a few months with an extra module I’m taking at uni and this really gave me a an insight into gamers I never thought of before. Thank you for your video it was amazingly well made and I wish the best for your channel. Subscribed :)

[@dylanehooverlibrarian7026]

Thank you for sharing this! I am very grateful for mentioning Hades' GodMode and Celeste's diversified Accessibility Options, because they threat the needle of Intended Experience and Making things approachable. I dearly admire Celeste because the different knobs and sliders for modes are so variegated and diverse, catering to specific kinds of issues. Are the problems of reaction times? Visibility? Deacent rates? There are knobs for that! Difficulty isn't just a 4-choice buffet ranging from Easy to Hardest - it actually articulates how (and and implies why) certain ways the game will challenge you. Hades' God Mode does none of that , just givng a slight - but ever increasing - percent based damage reduction, earned on each death. It assumes the player wants to win, to live as long as possible, but sweetens the fail state of loss each time by awarding a consistent reward beyond the randomized loot. It takes Longer Time to truly stack up (many, MANY deaths) but it grows with the otherwise frustrated player's confidence, granting that sense of growth and gradual progress which feels integral to Zagreus' own progress in both overcoming his captivity AND repairing his fractured relationships. Thank you for articulating this, especially after your incredible Dark Souls video. I feel the Easy Mode vs Intended Experience discourse is misses much nuance, and I love the rich fields of conversation that flourish beyond the limits of that dichotomy. One final thing: would you be able to add subtitles at the end of bit when your brother speaks? I really loved hearing it from the man himself -n abled person making a video on disability AND having a disabled person voice their take is Good Shit. However, the autogenerated captions didn't seem to transcribe some words properly (I don't think your brother liked Killing Father Immigrants - i hope, anyway :p ). Thank you for a good video! I consider me subscribed

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Thanks for the heads up on the captions! I didn't even know about that lol. I'll probably start messing with that for future videos. I also love the games you mentioned for how well they integrate these sort of things. It wasn't just tagged on; it was really thought out! I can envision the devs spending longer than a brief conversation on how to implement it.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I typed out the captions! What he said was still a little shocking tho lol

[@dylanehooverlibrarian7026]

​@@bigfreakinfrog To be fair - he is accurately accurately describing one of the game's actions. Guess those mongol battles have a je ne said quois that feels good! Thank you so much for this fix!

[@kylespevak6781]

I feel like especially with recent advancements in AI it should be very easy to make it difficulty setting that adjusts for the player and whatever disabilities they may have. For people who like games that are specifically difficult like Dark souls you can make a difficulty setting called "developers intention" so that they can feel good about beating the game and it's intended difficulty and nobody could say they chose the easy option

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I know a lower difficulty would go against intention for that kinda game. Reading comments, I also realized that some people just don't have the self-control to not pick an easier option. I don't view it as self-control, I view it as a fun time. I should make an updated video some day. Not like an updated opinion or anything, just like qualifying the argument for options a bit more by recognizing concerns.

[@kylespevak6781]

@@bigfreakinfrog I've never heard of someone lacking a self-control to pick an easier option. If that's their natural inclination then wouldn't that mean that they prefer an easier game? My main idea was to have a "developer intended" difficulty, And then have AI or a bunch of toggles to custom do the difficulties outside of that. That way anyone who pries themselves and being Dark souls can still do so

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@kylespevak6781 Ye that's the best I could come up with too. I like the solution.

[@kendejiYT]

This is a genuinely fantastic vid and is phenomenally well spoken. So glad I found your channel bro 🙏

[@bigfreakinfrog]

🥰

[@Vee-op3me]

Thanks for the video! I'm a UX student working on my Masters project about this. I'm in the early stages of researching what I can do or create to help game designers, writers, developers, etc build accessibility in rather than trying to check their finished work near the end against guidelines. I'm trying to make it as easy as possible to use what I make so people are more likely to include accessibility features

[@dylanterry3767]

This was very cute to see you seem like a good brother ❤️

[@callmecb2967]

Really nice video! I have a disability myself (friedreichs ataxia) seeing the clips of your brother playing that you’ve shown, it looks really similar to what it’s like when I play. Now Elden ring and dark souls 1&3 are some of my favorite games ever made. I beat all of those games: ds1 x2 ds3 x9 er x6. They were all hard as hell, but perseverance is key. If he can find something about the game that he absolutely loves, it might give him the drive to keep going until he completes it (for me it was the artwork and fluidity of combat especially spells) but I agree with you, for their disabled fanbase, from software should add an easy mode. thank you SO much for your message. It’s nice to know someone actually cares about the state of gaming for the disabled ❤ sorry for the paragraph lol

[@bigfreakinfrog]

He's tried but he got tired of Dark Souls after spending an hour and a half on asylum demon. He kept swapping off of his weapon, even after he was told and reviewed what the buttons did. It just doesn't come natural. If he had a passion for it I could see him getting better at it but he wasn't invested. Like you said I think you need a passion for it. Now he has been addicted to Crash 4 for a few weeks even though that is an incredibly tough game for him. Tough for me at times! It takes him around 100 tries per level but he's on world 3 now!

[@regenbogenexe7155]

this vid is so Giga based fr we need more ppl like you fr fr keep up the good work

[@nicolemn3951]

I love this so much, I love games with accessibility features. As I age my hands get worse and worse and I do miss playing certain genres. I have been a huge gamer all my life.

[@dtsnelson]

This was a gorgeous video essay my friend. Beautiful and full of heart.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I appreciate it 🥰 I know there are flaws but I enjoyed making this one.

[@dtsnelson]

@bigfreakinfrog (This is a really long comment but I hope you have a chance to read it all) I didn't notice any flaws! Hearing you talk about the excitement you have sharing games with your brother, and the joy in his voice as he talked at the end about his feelings towards the game had me in tears. On a different note I appreciated your fuck that to people cringing about borderlands 3 being "woke" On a slightly more serious note. I've always been a big advocate for physical accessibility in games. I don't have a physical disability or anything I just know that some of my favorite games (Dark Souls 3, Elden Ring, Sekiro, Hollow Knight, The Surge) all require immense physical dexterity even from a person without any physical limitations. However I had always been on the fence about easy modes because it felt weird to me as part of the challenge is overcoming the difficulty. Your concept of an accessibility mode changed my mind completely, and I'm really glad I found your channel, and I am really excited to see more from you in the future!

[@supslime9701]

Amazing video, glad to see someone talk about this topic without it turning into a toxic debate. Keep it up 😊

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm glad you think so ♥ I'm sure I missed some nuance but hopefully this'll get a few people to think about it when they normally wouldn't!

[@F2t0ny]

Surprised there aren't more people in here from the shout-out Lextorias gave this vid.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Yeah im pretty pleased with the natural growth this video got. It's not a video I made thinking it would get attention.

[@datboinumpad1715]

This may have been said already and you may not see this but control would be a great game to look at for your brother. It has incredibly good accessibility options

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'll see if he's interested!

[@roreah]

Loved your video, bro. Really nice content. I wish the best for you and for your brother

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

It would really be interesting to see if there has been a huge shift in the philosophy of game design or if it’s simply that there is more information present visually. When I played Resident Evil two as a teenager, it took me an hour to get to the gun shop, and I had a blast doing it. In modern titles I find myself asking what on earth I’m supposed to be doing at any given moment. When I came home from college, having not played video games for many years, my little brother showed me games with the twin stick control scheme. He told me just to practice, walking around in a few different games because it had been implemented and almost everything. It is completely natural now. Things can be learned no matter who we are or what our limitations are, but there needs to be something in place to guarantee every player has some sort of objective in mind. Most of the time now I celebrate if I find a key or get out of door. The problem, when people insist that needing some sort of accessibility option is damaging to the initial vision of the creator is that by forcing those of us with limitations to hack the game, we have a different experience if we have one at all. If a developer has assiduously selected every detail of a well crafted story game loop, I’m sure they want more people to experience it if possible. Once more developers attempt to accomplish what was done in The Last Of Us on PC, I’m sure libraries will be created to streamline the process once some accessibility concepts become a part of the workflow.

[@kylespevak6781]

I totally agree with the map thing. I don't have any disabilities but sometimes video game worlds are just harder to navigate for some reason

[@jamesmklinkhammer1]

Hope you guys are still gaming together

[@gamewrit0058]

Paused Lextorias' video on video game difficulty to come watch this. Fantastic video, Frogwater! 🐸👍

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Yo thanks for stopping by and for the compliments! ❤️

[@keylime5595]

Stop gate keeping games. I think a lot of people forget games are about having fun not being difficult. I think making games more accessible is so importante for the art form

[@bigfreakinfrog]

🙌

[@Ganmue]

What an eyeopening video. Thank you

[@STRcanine]

thanks for making this video and sharing your unique perspective! it really helped me :)

[@KuningannaSansa]

I feel so seen by this. I've always loved ubisoft maps cause I have adhd and if I dont have everything marked out for me + indicators of completion i'll just forget to experience half the game.

[@justsomejojo]

This was very insightful. I live with rightside ataxia (caused by a tumor surgery). Ataxia is limited muscle control, and for me that comes up mostly for my right hand, making twinstick games and games with fast camera movement borderline unplayable. For most of my life, I refused to accommodate myself in regards to games, basically denying my disability. I did beat many games by sheer determination (including Fromsoft titles, where lock on is the most helpful accessibility feature for me). I only became "good" at shooters when they allowed for gyro controls, since motion controls aided by both hands work marvelously well. Anyway, I really dislike the people with disability argument when it comes up in those heated, often toxic, Fromsoftware difficulty arguments, because I always felt it painted disabled people, like your brother and me as convenient excuses and scapegoats. That said, my perseverance in Fromsoftware games or Monster Hunter isn't quite normal I realize more and more. Having a bit of a window into that reality made me realize that disability probably matters way more in the difficulty discourse than I gave it credit for. I think I'll hold back on the pushback and look into this more. Thanks!

[@pomomo2217]

That was really touching ❤️

[@bigfreakinfrog]

☺

[@Joohorn]

Great video! 💜 I've always loved video games but because I'm disabled I've been unable to play many of them, I've mostly just stuck to watching other people play. It's great to hear your brother has been enjoying Ghost of Tsushima! Funnily enough, my parents got that for me as a gift when it came out. At first I was hesitant to try it, I was worried I'd be unable to play it and be disappointed, but I've had a blast with it! For me personally, it helps that there aren't huge hoards of enemies attacking me at once, and that for most missions I can choose to take more time and take the sneaky route, which is a lot easier. I don't feel like I'm in a rush and I can carefully take everything in. That's what's been my issue with most games, it takes me a moment to notice everything and since everything moves so fast, I tend to struggle quite a bit. And I've got to agree, the winds are pretty hard to spot lol it's a cool design choice tho

[@Joohorn]

Oh, and the boss fights! They're not easy by any means, but it feels so rewarding when you finally beat them because it doesn't take the whole day! I have no clue what makes them better than boss fights in other games, but I actually enjoyed them in tsushima

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Oh that's awesome to hear! My brother refuses to engage in sneak tactics unless he absolutely has to. He often forgets controls and finds it easier to stick to just combat so it takes him a long time to do some missions. He had a great time with it though and I'm glad you are too! Cool how different aspects can feel approachable to different players.

[@Joohorn]

@@bigfreakinfrog That's interesting, really goes to show how variety in options helps games be accessible to a wide audience of gamers! ^^

[@unclechair2208]

As someone who considers himself a souls veteran I am completly for all kinds of accessibility features and completly against easy modes, and those two things should be separate, like you mentioned in the video easy modes can be insulting and change the experience from the intended one while making it accessible in the settings or a separate menu (even if it results in something closer to a normal ,,easy mode") will be much different. Looking forward to more stuff from you mate (and yes, I am one of the people that the souls brought here)

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I appreciate the comment ♥ I know it can be a weird contrast to my previous Dark Souls video but I'm really into accessibility for my brother. I'm biased but I feel like it's with good reason.

[@BluePikmin10422]

I'll say that all games need as much accessibility options as possible because i was born half blind i have to hope games have larger fonts and that I prefer enjoying the story of games more than deal with unfair and hard stuff

[@KingKnowledge245]

I haven't been diagnosed, but i feel autistic af and accessiblity settings have helped me a lot to be able to enjoy gaming.

[@Mellow0_o]

Love the video, hope more gamedevs let everyone enjoy their games.

[@Lilliathi]

Games development is a business, so there will always be a calculation made.. how much will this accessibility mode cost and how many more sales will it bring in? Something like color-blind mode is always worth it, considering how common it is. Options for different types of mental handicaps or deformed/missing limbs is only going to be economically viable for AAA companies with wide projected sales. That's the sad reality of the situation.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Totally get that. People gotta live, get paid, and move on rather than spend valuable man hours on extra considerations. I really appreciate those that go the extra mile anyway.

[@cloneddragon]

sadly on point, and in some cases if a game isn't built for a feature from the start its hard to add later.

[@FijianSouljah1312]

So glad you bought up GMTK because HE was the one who changed my mind about the controversy ‘discussion’ of “Easy Mode in Dark Souls”, but the people who are against it doesn’t see how we explain it. Edit add on ; Everyone has different struggles having a “Easy Mode” (or my preferred name Accessibility). WILL NOT ruin the experience, EVEN IF other people who use it who doesn’t fit in that category too, Dark Souls games are able about over coming hardship and struggles, about pushing on against all odds but for some it’s literally impossible, and also who doesn’t want MORE people to play Soulsborne games, to keep building up the community and all of us can bond over our shared struggles, in game and in real life…

[@roznai]

Thank you frogowatto very cool 🤠👌🏼🔥

[@RwnEsper]

Good stuff. If you have a way to play them, Bravely Default and Bravely Second have amazingly comprehensive and granular accessibility options, especially for turn-based RPGs.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I actually been taking my 3DS to work and playing Bravely Default when its slow! I don't usually like turn-based games but it's pretty fun. I love the job system. My brother has no patience for reading or listening to anything tho so he'd never be into a turn-based game lol 🤷

[@RwnEsper]

@@bigfreakinfrog Didn't want to make assumptions. My wife has impaired dexterity but loves great story and gameplay. Just goes to show that the more types of accessibility the better.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@RwnEsper absolutely ♥

[@jonathanr9619]

An amazing video!!

[@wlloyds_]

Love your content Frogwater

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm really glad 😊

[@Azlare9_9]

as the youngest of 5 I never understood something like this and now I kinda feel bad because when something was hard for someone or something I would always say just get good lol I think I understand now though good video.

[@spookiebruh6743]

Great one again!

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Appreciate it ♥

[@abunchahoopla4392]

Well I'm getting soft. I wasn't expecting to tear up watching this. Great video though, I've always thought it was kinda silly people even have debates over gaming difficulty options. Then again people have debates/arguments over many stupid things I guess

[@vpxc]

Yo! Just wanted to drop in to say that imo, your brother playing Elden Ring with accessibility hacks and helpful mods would NOT be out of keeping with the intended experience of the game as overcoming hardship. It's true that tuning the encounters precisely to have a maximally satisfying difficulty curve would probably require skilled developers and/or modders working closely with disabled gamers. But your brother is already playing on hard mode all the time, isn't he? The point is to experience challenge, overcoming and mastery- not what settings/configuration you have when you experience those things.

[@SiliconSlyWolf]

I have an issue with reaction speed in some form. It makes me terrible at FPS/TPS games, but I can technically beat most on a middle difficulty. It's at its worse in games focused on parry mechanics. If parry is required to even be possible to beat it, that's it, end of game for me. It's annoying how people think even Dark Souls absolutely must not have an easy mode, and it's quite honestly bullshit people can't accept not everyone is physically capable of beating it without depending on easy modes. And I've got news for anyone who thinks FromSoftware games are so great because once you overcome that brutal difficulty, that you feel great. I didn't. I even beat Malenia, and I just felt "thank god, the bullshit is finally over." And what might seem odd, I legitimately enjoy Nioh despite similar levels of frustration. I think it's because the combat of Elden Ring definitely ended up "push LB to win" while in Nioh, I feel like I'm developing different strategies for different enemies, there hasn't been any single "I win" button for me in Nioh. Anyway, something isn't fun and rewarding just because it's hard, not even Dark Souls or Elden RIng.

[@anapoda3081]

great topic, great video

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Thanks ❤

[@shadowfoxspirit9]

I love your reasoning on easier modes/more accessibility options, but I hate to be this kind of person and say that, juat like any form of art (video games are an art some people have fought me on that) it's not for everyone. When I think of the phrase "gaming is for everyone" it means not that everyone can play every video game, but everyone can experience that game either by playing it or watching. I absolutely can't play horror games I panic too much and waste precious resources or (in vast majority of horror games) fail to hide from the monster and die, but I have such an amazing time watching other people play those games. I may not be experiencing it firsthand by playing it but I am still experiencing it by watching it, and in my humble opinion isn't that what the online gaming community is about? I mean if it isn't then what are let's plays and other video game KZbin channels, twitch streams and any other thing that you can think of doing if not contributing to The gaming community experience. TL;DR you don't need to play the game in order to be able to experience it, so options to remap controls and add subtitles and a little bit of visual features to make the seeing it easier is ok, but adding a setting that can make less enemies appear, make those enemies take more damage or do less damage, or anything else that can be considered an easier mode that is toggled by a setting isn't needed in all games

[@alexanderhoy2477]

Fire ass video mane u a goat

[@cozycodingmeg]

As an autistic gamer and indie game dev, who also has adhd - thank you.

[@gargantabass]

nice video

[@prototypelq8574]

Honestly the entire idea of 'difficulty experience' is completely manufactured. If you excuse me talking wide strokes - the tabletop games always had things like homebrew, modded versions, or even a 'this rule makes the game too long so we`ll just ignore it' type of moderation for a family evening.The problem with this flexible difficulty in gaming is just that it requires additional development time, and the modern game standarts have been lowered to 'the game should be playable on release' so, of course the only studios that can possibly have features like this are industry giants like Ubisoft. I have had the 'intended experience' mindset before, mostly because I don`t personally, am not affected by any disability, and console versions of games are pretty much a static thing. Recently, however I returned to pc to play some small indies my computed could handle, and aside from the fact I had a great time in them, it was also incredibly refreshing to mod games. Aside from difficulty options, sometime you just want to cause chaos on screen and have a sort-of godmode, and pc gaming allows to tap into code to have that. Developers have a set intended experience for players yes, but players Know what they want for themselves and having the ability to modify the experience more to your tastes will leave everyone satisfied. For the 'true achievers' you can place a sign that basically says 'you`re not playing the game the way it should be played' and yeah, but why would I care about that. I`m having a great time, and if the player is ever curious in the 'intended' experience - returning the game to basic ruleset or uninstalling mods is much much easier than creating them in the first place. Playing, in any shape or form, has always been about freedom and expression, so why should gaming be any different

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I'm all about providing options in games. Even if its something minor like a tweak in numbers for higher damage and health.

[@stephengarforth2753]

i had to stop playing cuphead, even the first boss had too much on screen for me to keep up. if there is a lot happening on screen i can't focus and my anxiety will rapidly spike, i don't know what it is but i cannot play games like that, it isn't a situation were i am bad at the game and need to "get good" its that i literally cannot focus on what is going on and the game is literally unplayable for me. all games including souls games need an accessibility mode and if not that they should at least have options and the hard-G gamers need to realize gate keeping accessibility only hurts the medium as a whole. having played the souls games since dark souls 1 i have seen the term "get good" turn from a bit of a mean spirited in-joke to a form of bullying and would not be surprised if people would unironically say that people like your brother should just get good, that having a disability is some kind of moral failing and that games should only be made for those fortunate enough to be born without some kind hurdle that makes certain activities difficult or impossible.

[@minespatch]

Maybe you should do more Dark souls vids? But Darkest Dungeon is pretty popular too.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Maybe I should if I want more views, but I like to talk about a whole bunch of stuff. Eventually I wanna do videos about super niche stuff to get people interested in stuff they've never played, watched, or read before!

[@minespatch]

@@bigfreakinfrog Sure thing. Have you played any of Baroque Decays games? Beholder? Deponia Trilogy?

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@minespatch No but I've seen fan-art of these games before! Super interesting! I have a huge list of videos and games I'd like to go through so it'd be a while before I touch them. Thanks for the recommendation though!

[@minespatch]

@@bigfreakinfrog I love them, so anything to signal boost them would be great in the future. Thanks for taking consideration.

[@blackrapier713]

I don't think difficulty options should become an industry standard. While I sympathize with your brother it's the one form of accessibility I don't think should be universal. Colorblindness options, remappable controls, multiple input devices, contrast options, photosensitivity options, mash toggles, UI scaling, CC, and CC font sizes are all things I would want to be in every game. These are all reasonable things that can be easily added and should be universal, at least as far as moderately sized dev teams are concerned. Outside of that it should be at the dev's discretion.

[@nirgendsdahierschon]

❤

[@Napoleonic_S]

As a partially disabled person, I don't have any problem with the accessibility option, but I'm against the glorification of having the option, because at some point it becomes a slippery slope down to madness for both game design and game development. What if the creator of the game doesn't want to change the game design to cater specific disabilities? What if they don't have the resources to? What if then virtue signal groups review bomb the developers? Slandering the developers? To give you one example for a contention point : skill based multiplayer game... Should the accessibility option be pushed there? How about game balance? How about exploit prevention? How about that people will hate these features because it becomes a point of contention between accessibility and exploits or dumbing down the game? How about the fact that only the biggest of game developers would have the resources to even consider such a thing?

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I get that not every game is going to be compatible with something like this like competitive multiplayer games. When it comes to a single player game and larger companies with resources to cater to something like this; I'm always gonna support more options. I don't expect smaller developers to provide something like that but it's always a bonus when they do. I personally found that some of the more creative difficulty accessibility options come from indie games.

[@bigdaddyfrogstat]

I suppose I have 2 counter-points, one less convincing than the other. 1. Adding an easier option and telling people to not use it if they don't like it vastly overestimates human discipline. I'm myself guilty of taking the easy way out if I get frustrated by a game, be it lowering the difficulty or using console commands to spawn materials to get past the grind of gathering them. The beauty of Dark Souls is that it denys you these opportunities and unyieldingly forces you to play by its rules. Not all games should be like this, but I appreciate that such a game exists. Same with Morrowind. Had an option existed to add quest markers, I probably would've used it the first time I got frustrated. But the lack of this option made me learn and adapt, and now I wish more games were like this. 2. (Emotional and ranty) 95% of modern games are very casual and handholdy. I get very defensive when people come and demand that the few hardcore games that I adore be more forgiving. There are so few games that scratch the unforgiving itch I want, such as Red Orchestra. Why should the tiny amount of hardcore games that my side has be changed for the benefit of casual gamers? Don't you already have the majority of games pander to you?

[@bigfreakinfrog]

On discipline I guess I'm bias because I always prefer to select the tougher option to make it more fun for me. On that second bit, I totally understand. I made this a while back and should have included games which are completely different when given a much easier option like Darkest Dungeon and Fear and Hunger (I've been playing them recently, very fun). If I could change it I'd want to restructure it to support that some games completely change their identities when applying an easy mode. Maybe show support for difficulties that scale to the players level like how Hades gives increasing buffs with more failures. I am, however, unyielding in my belief that more options are better and people like my bro get really excited when something allows them to join. More of a sentimental thing that you either agree with or don't imo.

[@bigdaddyfrogstat]

@@bigfreakinfrog I'm fully sympathetic towards those who have disabilities or have family that suffer from them. Most of my ire is directed towards unskilled players and gaming journalists who demand a game marketed for its difficulty be easier to suit them. I fully support accessibility options for the colorblind, the epileptic or any other person who can be helped without changing the core structure of the game. As for those who simply can't engage with the difficulty, I recommend playing a different game. That's what I did with Sekiro. Too hard. My reasoning is this: Dark Souls is not merely difficult in its gameplay. The story is immensely vague and cryptic, and the side quests offer no quest markers or hints. Simply lowering the difficulty wouldn't make it accessible. And making it even more accessible would dramatically change the core of Dark Souls. The Witcher should have an easy mode so people can experience the great story, but Dark Souls doesn’t offer anything if you skip the hard parts imo. It's like a prettier version of Super meat boy.

[@sawmesalami]

I understand where you're coming from, but I'd like to present some counterpoints. Not every hobby in life can/has to be accessible. There's plenty of sports and hobbies that have barriers that stop people from participating. That doesn't stop people from getting inventive and making them accessible. There's also a difference between difficulty and accessibility that you mentioned. And I do agree that it's fantastic in certain games. When you mention Elden Ring, and having played many of the souls games, there may not be an easy mode in the options, but there are plenty of ways to augment the difficulty through summoning, proper builds, etc. Yet you also have to consider the intended experience that the artist wants its players to have. Ultimately, people will create their easy/accessible mode mods which if it brings new players in who otherwise aren't able to play, I think it's fantastic they can share the same journey as I have.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I appreciate the differing viewpoint! The difference between video games and other hobbies, to me, is that what is possible is a lot more malleable in a video game. Difficulty and accessibility go hand-in-hand when it comes to certain cognitive disabilities. I'm always gonna think that more options are always gonna be better than not having options; especially if its made clear that it is not the intended experience. That way, people who care about playing what the developers intended (me) can enjoy it that way while others who can't (my bro) enjoy their own way. I don't think people need to invent their own easy mode through mods even though they will. Side note: if devs are so aware of players willingness to create an easy mode, shouldn't it be in the base game? Most people are not going to look up guides to play these things so this just ends up turning those away who could have been interested. I just think it's good to be inclusive to those who literally can't play it normally. I know there are ways to make Elden Ring easier in-game, but my brother took over 20 tries to kill Soldier of Godrick with the Samurai starter class. There is no way he's going to understand any of the mechanics or customization. That's where you might say the game is just not for him; but its not easy to look him in the eye and just say that. He wants to play games with me and I want to share them. I am biased but its with good reason. I know the Elden Ring my brother and I play will be different, but sharing that with him really matters to me. He has never improved at a sport and therefor was always excluded in school except out of necessity. He has not had the ability to make friends until our Mother made friends with other special needs parents. He is unable to work in jobs that aren't designated as special needs. Everything that my brother is allowed to participate in, in life, is a result of someone creating a program or alternative for him; so I'm absolutely unable to change my viewpoint on this. Having a separate mode that treats him with the respect he deserves makes him really happy. I'm always gonna advocate for more accessibility options in games; including difficulty. Gonna favorite this comment so it'll stay at the top. I feel like your comment allowed me to articulate some things I didn't in the video. Thanks for reading ♥

[@sam7559]

6:52 accessable modes wouldn't affect the experience of the intended experience. But it can because it's existence can be a constant thing in the background. I could attempt another run on this boss, or I could turn on accessibility mode and steamroll. It would get rid of the community shared adversity because now not everyone faced the same challenge. Let Me Solo Her wouldn't have been a community legend if anyone having challenges with Malenia could turn on a in game defeat boss button and defeated her that way.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I should have talked more about intended experience and what you sacrifice when you implement something like that more. It does go against the game design of a lot of souls games and that's where opinions on this has to split. I'll always think the options are better because an easier option doesn't sound appealing to me. I did read an interesting comment recently that said something like "If you use easy mode then you prefer and easier game." I had friends that used Blacknife Teech (I think that's her name) summon and it just carried them through Malenia while I tried to learn the water fowl dance. Our experiences were already drastically different. Also, thanks for commenting! This video been getting a little more traction recently which is embarrassing cuz I think I'm a little better at videos and art now lol

[@bazookaman1353]

Accessibility is good when it's things like colorblind options and subtitles for the deaf. It starts becoming really ugly when it's integrated into the base design of a project by trying to be "accessible" in aspects like lack of complexity, tame story telling, unoffending (and tby then definition untelling) character designs and then the game devolves into a grey blob with nothing going for it.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I definitely feel that. My favorite implimentations are specialized difficulty modes like celeste's slo motion feature and Hades' God Mode that gets easier the more runs you lose in a row.

[@celiafrostborn]

Accessibility is more options to allow for certain specific issues with their body or brain, Difficulty is pertaining to the things you do in the game settings set aside. It's not hard to see how those are different, your either willing to play a game without difficulty setting as is or you drop it or mod it to make it easier if you're on PC. Most games have difficulty settings, and even those that don't have extremely disabled people who manage to beat them like someone with cerebral palsy beating Sekiro with their breath. If that or any of the other weird ways people beat games can happen then anyone can beat pretty much any game, you just need enough determination to do so. Failure to do so so ply means you didn't have the dedication to do so disability or not...

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I get you but I definitely disagree. If something is "easier" it is inherently more "accessible" to more people. They are linked. I think you just value a creative vision which I totally get. A game isn't rewarding to me without challenges. I just don't think providing more options for those with cognitive disabilities or even people who don't enjoy a challenge is a bad thing. I'm not kidding when I say my brother needs an easier difficulty. It took him over 20 tries Soldier of Godrick, the tutorial boss that barely fights back in Elden Ring. At this point you might say the game isn't for him if he's not willing to throw himself at it for months to beat it. I would say an easier difficulty would give him a much better time and not affect those who want to play the intended game difficulty.

[@celiafrostborn]

@@bigfreakinfrog Fair enough, in that case though I'd recommend setting him up on a PC with a controller and modding to make his stats bonkers so he can still play. There have been plenty of other disabled people who have conquered the more difficult games through various means so I'm sure it'd be possible for your brother to do it eventually. It's all a matter of how bad you want it and your drive to push forward. I do feel for those who can't complete the game though knowing they miss out on the satisfaction but in my mind it's just not the same unless everyone experiences it under the same terms. It's easy to be discouraged by losing a lot for some people regardless of disability but some people blame the game and not themselves, souls games are what they are because they are unyielding in my eyes. If you could just put on an easy mode then it's just not the same game anymore to me, you may as well be playing dark souls lite at that point.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@celiafrostborn 100% agree. I know that the version that my brother plays will not be the same as mine, although I am fairly certain he would not complete base Elden Ring if he spent an hour on it every day for 10 years. No matter how long he tries, I don't think he's going to get a driver's license either. He just doesn't have the coordination to despite trying for 4 years now. He wants to be a professional wrestler and is planning on taking classes to do so but he does not have balance and is incapable of articulating his speech. Some task are insurmountable and I don't think video games need to be in that same category. I'm not upset with games that don't include difficulty settings and i dont expect all devs to do that, I'm just disappointed for those who cant reasonably play it without those options; especially since games are a medium that already provide options to tailor an experience to the user. I know I'm very biased, but I feel like youd be biased too if you spent enough time hanging out with my bro.

[@celiafrostborn]

@@bigfreakinfrog In this case I would say your brother drew the unfortunate straw of a physical limitations as well as a mental one, I'd probably have some bias towards proposing changes to things to fit my siblings needs as well if I lived with them all my life. As for me I'm on the spectrum but still have a sharp mind and did have an accident that took away flexibility from my left thumb though so I'm not exactly normal either. You're right that I'd probably say someone like your brother probably isn't cut out for vanilla games of most sorts, especially without help from you or another relative. Not to be insulting of course but some people just aren't born to be able to do certain things, this applies even to even those who are able bodied and minded. I also don't like the idea of the world changing to suit people with disabilities either, at least not on a large scale. In the real world you won't get it any easier if you fail an assignment at work wornexample and will be reprimanded all the same. Companies can try to make life a bit easier but the bottom line remains. It'd be nice if I could wave a wand and remove all the things that trigger my sensitive senses but the world doesn't work like that unfortunately. For your brother though I fully support your making a modified version of games so he can beat them though, he may have drawn a bad hand but who's to say you can't personally slip an ace Into that hand to make life a bit easier? In the same way I can't change the sensations I feel at work HR has given me a few tools to make me working possible without breaking down so I say go for it. Overall I can tell you're a good person and just want to help him and people like him enjoy games but you can't expect every game to be playable to everybody, sometimes developers have a vision and that vision makes it impossible for some to play it how they make it at base ya know?

[@DreamyAileen]

I think there's a slight misunderstanding with the Souls games. The games aren't just about overcoming hardship, they're specifically about overcoming a world that _does not give a single shit about you._ Gameplay-altering options of _any_ kind would be completely antithetical to that. Don't get me wrong, accessible art is important to have. A lot of games would certainly benefit from having more accessibility features. Dark Souls just is not one of them. Because not all art can be accessible to everyone, nor should that be required of them.

[@Bigboss192x]

6:41 yeah its called they can't play it. Ik that sucks but we aren't gonna put Radio in on the Dallas Cowboys. Not every game is for every player.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I get that. Like I'm never touching Factorio with a 20ft pole and it shouldn't try to be for me. There are, however, some easily implemented options that mean a great deal to people and allow for more people to play.

[@Sanjiluv]

Oh boy. Dyslexia and FPS games go together like butter and water but I do it anyway. It makes victories taste sweeter when youre wearing weighted clothing.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

He'll yea 💪💪 💪

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Autocorrect 💀

[@Sanjiluv]

@@bigfreakinfrog Yeah. Its frustrating though to know you have both the ability and foresight to pull off a proper play. But then dyslexia says "Nah. You actually get to notice something entirely different or irrelevant thanks to your brain crossing shit up on you. Nerd". But as i said before. It makes the victories that much better. Its even better when people know they got outplayed by someone who was barely able to pay attention to what was going on due to visual noise.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@Sanjiluv That's sick. It reminds me of my bro getting a win in Tekken 7 cuz he's button mashing and the guy on voice is furious.

[@Gay_Charlie]

What about videos displaying specific challenges? Some video games disable High Scores when accessible options are enabled so should there be some sort of indication so others can easily know that a player required menu assistance?

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Typically games disable achievements when assistance is used and it would definitely be unfair to compare scores to someone using easier options. I think it's perfectly fine to keep competitiveness alive with accomplishments that are inherently skillful.

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Oh, but yeah! I assume easier options would be used to display scores separate from the standard configuration.

[@Gay_Charlie]

@@bigfreakinfrog What games have achievements disabled with accessibility enabled?

[@bigfreakinfrog]

@@Gay_Charlie I only know a few off the top of my head: Tunic, Pshyconauts 2, and Celeste! I'm sure there are more.

[@LordPatroclus]

"unable to find their way around through landmarks" holy shit I just realised... I'm like that I played through Blasphemous recently and I was able to play through it partly because it had an actually helpful map system. meanwhile I tried playing Hollow Knight but that game's map system is just so gimmicky and weird and it's hard to make sense of unless you have certain items

[@bigfreakinfrog]

I think anyone can get lost in Hollow Knight. That game's map is insane lol

[@user-lj2gx2bh8p]

I hope you go far on KZbin man, your videos are very extremely quality. 🤌

[@bigfreakinfrog]

Aw. I really appreciate it ♥ Hopefully I'll get better at writing and editing as I go.