What I Learned From My Failed Everesting Attempt - A Talk With Coach Frank Overton

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[@hgiusdfajgfds]

Maybe you can do the extra lap in the beginning when you're still fresh, instead of saving it to the end?

[@MaxRothFitness]

That doesn’t even make sense lmao

[@hgiusdfajgfds]

@@MaxRothFitness you need big maths for this, it's not for everyone

[@worstretirementever]

Best comment

[@ai314159]

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[@andyolsen4517]

@@MaxRothFitness obviously a joke

[@nigelstanley3674]

Looking forward to the next attempt.

[@gwmtnbiker]

Thank you for letting us “peek inside” your coach conversation and give us opportunity to learn! Your channel adds value to my life!

[@wmlarch]

Phil, so nerdy...if the weather was so hot, you should have started at 4am.

[@KetzalSterling]

Phil, just a note. I think you're vastly under valuing the temperature in the equation. Your internal temperature is a serious governor in this endeavor. I was surprised you thought 16C was cool. I would think the optimum temp for this effort would be near 10C. Quite cold. You're simply not getting enough evaporative cooling at such slow climbing speeds. I'd recommend either doing it at night, or starting at something like 4am. Just some thoughts. Great vids, best of luck.

[@julmeissonnier]

I agree. It is well known that the ideal marathon running temperature are something like 11 to 14 Celcius because you are producing a lot of heat. The speeds running flat terrain and riding uphill for top athletes are fairly similar (around 20Km/h). The only issue with Everesting would be not to get cold because of the high speed in the downhill, but if you go up 6 minutes and down one minute, it is like doing intervals and it is not enough time to get cold just enough to cool the engine and actually would quite helpful in managing body temperature...

[@patrickharrison871]

Agreed-its not even debatable, doing this above 60-65f is absolutely dumb. Honestly you would think one person in his circle would have researched this.

[@DJcoachbombay]

Agreed. I was thinking of start time at 4am for Phil or something similar.

[@notreally2406]

55 mph descending in the dark is not ideal, especially with nocturnal animals and additional lighting requirement weight

[@cliffclermont]

Please only do it on a real cool temp day. Core temp and human performance is a highly under rated item. All the best.

[@jasonstrandberg6922]

+1 on the FasCat plans. Completing Sweet Spot now and feeling good. They have some great variations to keep the longer weekend rides interesting if groups aren’t allowed, because of COVID. #FtFP Good luck Phil.

[@tomasberka2124]

Phil, fingers crossed for the next attempt. Once it's behind you (and you got the record:-)), would you mind some nerdy video about your bike setup for this effort?

[@tonypapay]

Thanks for sharing the conversation with your coach.

[@vivekh7662]

Cool temperatures and no rain this weekend in LA!!

[@thewidesight]

The actual record holder Sean Gardner was nearly one hour faster than Gaimon at his record from May2020. Good luck beating this time!!!

[@overthebarscycling2463]

I miss working with Jake and the Fascat crew. Maybe once racing starts back up again I’ll get back in their program. If that ever happens 🤷‍♂️.

[@ryanmonaghan3733]

Sweet cat painting 🔥🔥🔥

[@FasCatCoaching]

that is THE HED Disc Wheel that Tom Zirbel piloted to 4th place in the 2009 World Time Trial Championships in Switzerland. Still has the original tubular! Of course the airlines cracked the rim on the flight home so he gave it to Coach Big Cat and this wheel hung outside the FasCat Performance Center for 5 years in North Boulder.

[@bitminerbob6731]

I think having your power data being displayed in your glasses would help a lot too, rather than having to look at your Garmin or wahoo element for your power data. Eversight does the data display in your glasses too. Maybe they could jump on as a sponsor?

[@madwank]

Good luck Phil. Loving the Everesting videos, thank you!

[@Gorlim]

Great video, rooting for you on your next go! Was the Wahoo giving you live segment times even though you were cutting the start off?

[@maguilecutty]

This is GREAT content PG. Thanks heaps for generating this. Really cool that you are so open with the process and numbers.

[@scottleech9571]

Super cool Phil , great to have insight instead of all the secrets from other pros

[@ad9898]

Good luck Phil, looking forward to the attempt.

[@SendingStache]

Good luck on the next go around! Would love to see this record live locally and be held by you!

[@danielsiapin]

What streets in Mt. Washington? Crane is the only one I can think of. Eldred is friggin nuts, but that's Highland Park until you get to the top of the steps at Cross Ave.

[@OnEvenKeel]

You're a true (albeit retired) professional, Phil.

[@robbchastain3036]

So genuine question, not goofing, why not go for a personal best which splits the difference between the record and your previous best, something like that and just keep getting better and smoother until, for sure, you are ready to be a contender for the title. I get the go for broke vibe, but this isn't an annual race or something which takes forever to come around again. You are free to do it as often as you want--upon recovery--and it is a cool endeavor, quite the accomplishment to climb for hours against the clock like that.

[@worstretirementever]

Effort-wise I did that in training. Also you really don’t want to do this kind of day more than you have to. I was messed up for awhile after the last one

[@robbchastain3036]

@@worstretirementever Thanks, Phil, for the explanation and here's hoping you're cleared for liftoff again soon.

[@daniels.2720]

Nola barks when Frank mentions 'Rest' = right on cue...

[@squealer42]

If you didn't go for it already this weekend, next Friday currently looks good! Especially for me as I watch from the sofa :-)

[@keithburt7874]

Vicariously following, climbing depends on muscles that only Cycling allows me to use, Grazie e Pace O/O°

[@agie170hss2]

You've got almost 100k followers Phil !! Can we crowdfund enough money to pay for putting in a dead-straight, 1 mile long piece of 20% pavement somewhere for you? 😊

[@trixibellalestrange7232]

The Phil Gaimon road?

[@agie170hss2]

@@trixibellalestrange7232 Absolutely! .... and then Phil could charge other riders to use the "Phil Gaimon Rd." as additional "Retirement" income?

[@trixibellalestrange7232]

@@agie170hss2 $5 toll fee for every 50 feet? $2.50 if you're on a bike?

[@maxeylifetv2676]

E-Biking prohibited 🚫 sign post at a prominent spot.

[@gttim]

Overton needs a window behind him on his zoom calls.

[@scottc8351]

He had one but it shifted to the right

[@Vader0325]

@@scottc8351 evolved to the right

[@hermanvansch4939]

Why not do it at night? Probably less traffic and temp will be lower for sure

[@dsmith3857]

Need to be able to see on the descents at 50mph though

[@vivianvandermerwe1380]

The descent on that segment is frightening during the day with a few twists and turns, at night would be very high risk I would think, not enough lighting for cars and pedestrians to see you

[@TheMeyerchris7]

@@dsmith3857 a concern for sure. But i also suspect for a couple grand you could get a generator and some flood lights to run along the course.

[@fetcui]

More critters out at night as well..

[@xCrugixX]

I guess you would also have to adjust your day night rythem, if you want to be awake and recovered

[@ChrisinOSMS]

Best of luck! I believe.

[@franklevy709]

Would it make sense to do 1-2 hours in darkness for cool temps. The descent would be a bit slower - but high-powered headlamps are getting really lightweight.

[@markdragovan9466]

Hey Phil. You have astounding power to weight, but also power to frontal area is also high. This suggests trying to break the hour record on the track for your age group. Of course, we all know about your crash, but with the hour record you can only crash yourself. With the form you will have you could do it at one of the events the LAvelodrome has where there are officials etc. during the summer. You don't have to worry about the weather either, and its *only* an hour! I'm in Pasadena and would go to the velodrome a lot; the problem I had with long solo efforts is that my neck would give out. Additional training needed for that!

[@PierreAlainMaire]

Very interesting tips for training ! Would have been horrible to land short of the everesting because of a few ft ( x 60) ...

[@cyclonasaurusrex1525]

Two days to recover? Hell, I still hurt from just watching the attempt.

[@troycollett8540]

Sounds like you are well on track to get the record back.you just need the weather to play nice

[@lezardvaleth99]

I get exhausted riding the bus at 30 Celsius.

[@twowheelslater7112]

Still one hell of a training ride.

[@larrylem3582]

I thought there was going to be a problem with the turnaround where you carried 10 mph as you started back up the hill. But I don't know how all of the other record holders did their runs. I imagine the same way.

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

What about an hour elevation gain record attempt?

[@golfaddict75]

You should invest into wireless earbuds like AirPods they are great!

[@markokitzing4291]

Phil, had you been faster, you could have been done before the heat. I'm just sayin...

[@molokocycling]

Phil, have you checked if your power meter reads differently through big temp swings? Might be worth checking mate.

[@nicholasmasciaga4777]

Good point, perhaps using VAM alongside power might help

[@cory1newton]

Phil probably calibrates/zero offsets his PM before every ride like you’re supposed to (some PM’s do an auto-reset zero during riding). Plus most PM’s have “active temperature compensation” so no worries there.

[@Imtheman1977]

I thought you had to conclude the lap to qualify?

[@danh9225]

Go Phil. You can do it!

[@adumbberg]

Phil- you doin' ok man? Did someone wake you up and tell you that you were filming a video intro in 2 minutes? ;-)

[@w4yland3r27]

Cantador has a gun off camera.

[@Simon-le2jk]

i wouldn't trust gps data for elevation. maybe find some better source to not guess the actual number, especially a source which is not strava

[@benjaminogle11]

interesting listening to Fascat - tried signing up for one of his plans but the discount code doesn't work. Is there a new one?

[@FasCatCoaching]

fixed that coupon to work if you would try again 🙏

[@stuartdryer1352]

Just curious, for someone like Phil, on a typical training ride, what would be the TSS?

[@henrikboe4648]

Are you allowed to use a hill on the other side to avoid slowing down at the bottom? So the vertical gain up the other side also counts and you put all of the speed at the bottom to good use?

[@charlesbisbee3014]

Unfortunately not

[@jessetamez7362]

Any chance you will switch to disc brakes, I think the shorter more confident stops would make up for the weight gain.

[@davidrbyrne]

Normally I would agree with you, but did you see how hot he came into those turns on the rim brakes?

[@Btstaz]

I think you need a longer hill, those turn around times have cost. (be it is okay if I am totally wrong)

[@aneczka2114]

Really good video

[@TheCnoonan123]

Come to Ireland!

[@bertchalmers]

I think mised why you would have been disqualified? That extra 10ft per lap??

[@pro353]

yeah exactly. his strava segment was a little off so he wasn't on track to do enough elevation.

[@tomjfrye]

Wednesday, Phil.

[@thomaso9757]

cant you do it in night time, when it is nice and '''cold''?

[@nicholasmasciaga4777]

It's also dark, when he's coming down the hill he's FLYING and that would be mega dangerous

[@maxeylifetv2676]

Can’t he do it in the winter? Or some other hill where it is cooler?

[@Hill_Walker]

Are you planning on having discs or a disc on your next attempt?

[@ytubela]

Every gram counts. Since disc brakes weigh more than rim brakes, that's why he chose to use his rim brake bike.

[@dustind9242]

Is that a golden cheetah on his wall?

[@cory1newton]

Does the FasCat still mis-pronounce Phil’s last name? Peel Diamond. Not Gay-mon. Gotta be an inside joke I’m guessing?

[@DaaamnGina]

So sorry 300+ watt repeats didn’t hurt enough

[@AngusOg69]

..

[@damon123jones]

the decsnt looked too dangerous

[@verfelipe4576]

Wala ka pala ehhh

[@newname2351]

disqualified for meth? yeah, don't smoke that on a ride

[@gustavorincon1640]

What a fail! No no no no, you should retire, honestly... Wait... :v

[@reflectionsdetail]

#ffp

[@tonycrabtree3416]

Find a true loop next time.

[@mhilde7744]

You quit....end of story. Great lesson.

[@Vader0325]

You didn’t fail comma you just didn’t accomplish your mission dot dot dot this time exclamation mark