What If...? #30: What If Spider-Man's Clone Had Lived? - Atop the Fourth Wall

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@J1P2K
@J1P2K 18 күн бұрын
“Else World” and “What If” would make a fun month.
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 18 күн бұрын
I have an Elseworlds comic where Batman and Daredevil teamed up...
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
​@@BaronSengir1008 Mix the two of them, we'll call it: Else-If or What World
@OnDavidsBrain
@OnDavidsBrain 18 күн бұрын
As long as none of those Elseworlds involve Bearded idiots or everyone losing their powers and worshiping Batman.
@Spider_Variant96
@Spider_Variant96 18 күн бұрын
​@@thatonea-holeWhat If In An Else World?
@JadedMax
@JadedMax 18 күн бұрын
Yes please!
@wstine79
@wstine79 18 күн бұрын
"I make terrible decisions." That's the ultimate quote for 2024.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
If humanity ever is gone/extinct, we need that engraved on a memorial to all of us in general
@edfreak9001
@edfreak9001 18 күн бұрын
*U.S.A.!* *U.S.A.!* *U.S.A.!*
@blaze048
@blaze048 18 күн бұрын
Relatable
@bjmccann1
@bjmccann1 18 күн бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 18 күн бұрын
It's pretty appropriate.
@christopherwebster6354
@christopherwebster6354 18 күн бұрын
4:08 “This world’s not big enough for two Spider-Men!” Come the 2020s, and we have seven counting Spider-Gwen, Silk, and Spider-Woman. Eight if you count Otto’s on-again off-again career as Superior Spider-Man.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 17 күн бұрын
Peter, Miles, Kaine, Reily, Shift, O'Hara, Spider-Boy, Silk, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Woman, Madame Web, Anya.... that's 12 minimum Honorable mention being otto's on-again/off-again career as Superior Spider-Man, Dream Spider, Web-Head, Rek-Rap, the newest Spider-Girl (who is a new Spider-Boy character), and depending on who you ask Goddess (the spider who bit Peter and Silk) And that's only 616 counting the still active spider-fellas and not counting the symbiotes. As there are many others like Steel Spider, or the Slingers (although i don't think these ones count) Not counting the Spider-Verse people who just go to 616 (gwen and O'hara being the exception as they are now living in 616.... O'hara should count x2 given now we have classic O'Hara and the newer 2099 they keep trying to make every 4 or 6 years)
@HellNutcase
@HellNutcase 16 күн бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Classic Miguel doesn't really count because he just lives his normal life with wife and kid. Or is he?
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 16 күн бұрын
@@HellNutcase apparently they occasionally drag him back for Spider-Verse events
@HellNutcase
@HellNutcase 16 күн бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 LEAVE HIM ALONE, MARVEL!
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 15 күн бұрын
The world was finally big enough.
@desshinta9428
@desshinta9428 18 күн бұрын
"and now I ask you to turn your attention to another universe. A universe that shows us...What If Spiderman had a Giant Robot?" "change Leopardon!"
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 18 күн бұрын
@@desshinta9428 And that's why Sentai (and by extension Power Rangers) has giant robots!
@bearerofbadnews1375
@bearerofbadnews1375 18 күн бұрын
And more recently the Avengers have a giant robots that form into a megazord.
@DrakeyC
@DrakeyC 18 күн бұрын
19:15 - You joke Lewis, but that's precisely how Peter deals with explosives in the Spider-Man games, he snags them with a web shot, swings them around and hurls them away to explode harmlessly.
@Spider_Variant96
@Spider_Variant96 18 күн бұрын
Spider-Man: I AM the bomb squad
@fireair100
@fireair100 18 күн бұрын
Or in the case of failing a QTE in Spider-Man 3, he goes thud on the ground, instantly dies, and the bomb goes boom!
@JesseWFDusk
@JesseWFDusk 18 күн бұрын
Well, in the games he actually throws the bomb into the air and webs it to prevent shrapnel.
@danielbrant6740
@danielbrant6740 16 күн бұрын
Don't forget Miles. He does that, too!
@Awells89
@Awells89 13 күн бұрын
Spider cop bomb disposal unit
@elpizo1789
@elpizo1789 18 күн бұрын
Kingpin went full Doctor Eggman in this story, hovercrafts and deranged amusement parks included.
@mightyfilm
@mightyfilm 18 күн бұрын
Too bad he doesn't go off and "eat this delicious banana."
@elpizo1789
@elpizo1789 18 күн бұрын
@@mightyfilm now I'm just curious if they ever shown Fisk eating a banana.
@nirman423
@nirman423 18 күн бұрын
Kingpin with Daredevil: I'm going to destroy your life piece by piece with whatever little snippets of information I got. You will never sleep peacefully as long as I'm around. My revenge would come when you least expect it swiftly and terribly. Kingpin with Spider-man: Laser Cane and flying Ferris Wheel carts!!!!!
@wolfkniteX
@wolfkniteX 18 күн бұрын
Glad you've been able to hold on strong for us Lewis, but I hope you're able to get some much needed rest. Have a Happy New Year as we move onto the Age of S.P.D.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Also, the year of Call of Duty- Black Ops 2!
@walterlopez5054
@walterlopez5054 18 күн бұрын
@@thatonea-hole also the year Star Saber comes to earth in Transformers: Victory
@kaicreech7336
@kaicreech7336 18 күн бұрын
12:58 His break-up with Betty was very well-written, ESPECIALLY for the time. Betty was traumatized by Spider-Man's failure to save her brother and Peter wasn't able to give her what she needed out of a relationship.
@hulk6785
@hulk6785 18 күн бұрын
Marvel's What If...?: It's non-canonical!!!! Until it is canonical.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
So basically, the multiverse in general. Whether it be Marvel or DC comics
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 18 күн бұрын
In which case it’s “What Now?”
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 18 күн бұрын
@@hulk6785 The universe of every What If? story has a multiversal designation...
@blaze048
@blaze048 18 күн бұрын
To slightly quote the legendary Stan Lee: it's what the writer wants it to be
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 18 күн бұрын
@@blaze048nope, multiverse, not canon to the main universe but canon in its own universe.
@ОлегЕршов-м3с
@ОлегЕршов-м3с 18 күн бұрын
"I know there was a cloning situation and my last memory is donating my DNA... it's so hard to figure out why I don't remember the following three years of my life!"
@DawnOfTheOzz
@DawnOfTheOzz 18 күн бұрын
Spider-Man: I think I'm a clone now. There's always two of me just hanging around.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 18 күн бұрын
I think I'm a clone now, my every chromosome is a hand-me-down.
@93MANIAC
@93MANIAC 18 күн бұрын
And this kids is why Big Wheel is the superior Ferris wheel themed Spider-Man villain
@giladpellaeon1691
@giladpellaeon1691 17 күн бұрын
"Spiderman Summer Camp" is probably better than the sidekick summer camp from the Tick comics. That had a few bottom tier heroes training young sidekicks (kids) how to do laundry, costume repair, cooking, etc... pretty much all the chores a superhero considers beneath them. Also "SSSPPPPOOOOOOOOOOONNN!"
@papabearlives9995
@papabearlives9995 18 күн бұрын
It's the 16th anniversary. Space is worped and time is bendable. But congratulations non the less. I can count on one hand KZbinrs doing this so long. Good on you , man.
@joejira2809
@joejira2809 18 күн бұрын
I can be happy that Linkara acknowledged the as of now ongoing Ultimate Spider-Man by Hickman. For those who don't know it's basically about an older Peter getting bitten and getting powers 20 years later where he's happily married to MJ and raising two kids.
@MakeVarahHappen
@MakeVarahHappen 18 күн бұрын
It def feels like Marvel having its cake and eating it too by dangling the idea of a happy peter behind an alternate universe.
@TheRedMage01
@TheRedMage01 18 күн бұрын
You know a Spider-Man comic is good when it can focus on the none Spider-Man parts and still be good like the December issue from last year
@Future_Vantas
@Future_Vantas 18 күн бұрын
@@TheRedMage01 Most ominous Merry Christmas of all time
@osirisatot19
@osirisatot19 18 күн бұрын
It is nice to have an ongoing Spider-Man book to read again; and that it is really damn good.
@L1701
@L1701 17 күн бұрын
So basically, that Peter became Spider-Man because he’s having a mid-life crisis?
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 18 күн бұрын
AT4W can now legally drive!
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Oh God, AT4W is gonna drive off a cliff!
@TECH097
@TECH097 18 күн бұрын
​@@thatonea-holeYou're mixing up AT4W with Mainline non-Ultimate Spider-Man
@PrincessAshley972
@PrincessAshley972 18 күн бұрын
a few more years and it'll be able to drink!
@Roserae16
@Roserae16 11 күн бұрын
Next thing you know, it's staying out late on a school night, hanging with the wrong kind of yt channels!
@BaronSengir1008
@BaronSengir1008 11 күн бұрын
@@Roserae16 No, I think those days are behind it...
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 18 күн бұрын
27:58 Thing is they never actually say they’ll trade being Peter Parker. I can see the clone adopting the Ben Riley identity and building a life for himself in New York and both just trade off who is Spidey. I’d honestly love to see where this status quo could have gone. Maybe Ben still becomes the scarlet spider
@hyper_ninja3339
@hyper_ninja3339 18 күн бұрын
Well, Pete does say "It'd be nice to sleep in and go to class" with the implication being that Peter and Ben would swap places in day to day life as well, but I do like that idea.
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 18 күн бұрын
@ may they start that idea realize it won’t work then just swap whose Spidey
@Roserae16
@Roserae16 11 күн бұрын
I wonder if anyone ever wrote fanfic about that.... (Coughcough) -Justkiddingneitherofthemishappythereeither- 😅
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 11 күн бұрын
@@Roserae16 what fanfic?
@melainakiss
@melainakiss 16 күн бұрын
24:44 "It's cree-tin. If you're going to threaten me, do it properly." - Mike Wazowski, 2001
@jakew6162
@jakew6162 18 күн бұрын
Man Ben Reilly is such a good successor to be Spider-Man I sure hope Marvel treats him so good since he came back.
@originalindigodingo
@originalindigodingo 18 күн бұрын
You know Ben ended up becoming The Jackal himself? Then he got demon powers and calls himself Chasm.
@jakew6162
@jakew6162 18 күн бұрын
@ Oh I know. The BND team hates poor Ben. Seriously did Ben Reilly killed their parents or something?
@maxxjapan619
@maxxjapan619 18 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be stupid if he became a villain or something? WOULDN'T IT BE STUPID?!
@93MANIAC
@93MANIAC 18 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJ6oqoiFgal6fKM
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 18 күн бұрын
@@originalindigodingo And, for whatever reason, teamed up with Marvel;s OTHER most infamous clone-turned-evil, Madelynn Pryor. I honestly forgot she was still alive until THAT happened.
@Jamo3K
@Jamo3K 18 күн бұрын
A “What if” month would be pretty fun, and could work well with Storyline stuff, especially with the changes that skeleton reaper spectre thing is involved with, or at the very least “watching”
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 2 күн бұрын
Especially if he does Star Wars Infinities The Empire Strikes Back as a curveball.
@mikegates8993
@mikegates8993 18 күн бұрын
To be fair to the Kingpin's drone seemingly only having one bullet, maybe it's armed with the golden gun.
@Levitz9
@Levitz9 17 күн бұрын
I love Viga's little doodle mascot being involved in this one. It's nice to see her around! Her art for these title cards is so good!
@AT4W
@AT4W 17 күн бұрын
Ironically, this is actually her final title card - we announced that she decided to step down from doing the title cards about a month or two ago to focus on other stuff. Still, in complete agreement and I completely agree about her mascot appearing in this one. =)
@Rabbitlord108
@Rabbitlord108 16 күн бұрын
​​​@@AT4WStill looking forward to the new cards by J Maner since I loved the ones they did for Amalgam Comics Month.
@neilstone3656
@neilstone3656 14 күн бұрын
​@@AT4W Hi. I was going through your old power ranger videos and I can't seem to find Mystic Force. I am a huge mystic force fan and was wondering what happened to it and if you would reupload it
@MichaelSmith-fq6hz
@MichaelSmith-fq6hz 18 күн бұрын
The most unrealistic thing in all of comics is the Jackal affording his criminal enterprise on a college professor’s salary, and I know this because I teach college.
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 18 күн бұрын
How much CAN you afford?
@fudgegorilla
@fudgegorilla 18 күн бұрын
How villainous can you afford to be? Let's budget this.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 18 күн бұрын
Maybe he was a good gambler? Had a side hustle? Owned shares of stock in Oscorp or Stark Industries?
@nate567987
@nate567987 18 күн бұрын
Breaking bad did it
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 18 күн бұрын
He probably just stole/appropriated the equipment.
@mitchellcowan2500
@mitchellcowan2500 17 күн бұрын
“We don’t get enough petulant six year old Kingpin.” Weeelll in the MCU all a Russian mobster had to do was embarrass him on a date and Wilson was so pissed he chopped his head off with a car door, so maybe that’s for the best
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Oh, the late anniversary video truly marks how this year messed with not only Linkara's schedule but himself/personal life
@clarktooncrossing3975
@clarktooncrossing3975 18 күн бұрын
What If gave us the awesomeness that is Mayday Parker’s Spider-Girl, and for that I’ll forever be grateful! She’s the upbeat counterpart of her dad that got me into comics.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 18 күн бұрын
If only THAT timeline became the main one. I read the issue of "Renew Your Vows" where Peter and MJ's daughter gets invited to enroll at the Xavier Institute, they talk to the X-Men about developments that basically avoided AVENGERS:DISASSEMBLED and CIVIL WAR, and I thought "DAMMIT! They're TAUNTING us with a better timeline!"
@clarktooncrossing3975
@clarktooncrossing3975 18 күн бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 Marvel does that. A lot. "Sure, we COULD give you what you want, but why though?"
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
​@clarktooncrossing3975 I mean, DC does that too with certain elseworlds stories like the one for identity crisis
@93MANIAC
@93MANIAC 14 күн бұрын
And not to mention What If? #4 gave us Hitler being lit on fucking fire!
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 18 күн бұрын
“I’m a ROBOT!” The new buildup to that joke is absolutely spectacular!!!
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Ironic since there was a robot 🤖 duplicate of spidey
@YMasterS
@YMasterS 18 күн бұрын
You killed it on the comedy in this one. The extra work you put into the reworking definitely paid off!
@Xecryo
@Xecryo 18 күн бұрын
I think if Linkara is ever on the news his little name banner should read: Linkara Pedantic Nitpicking Dork. 🤣
@ForeverGotShorter
@ForeverGotShorter 18 күн бұрын
I assume the idea here is that the reason the clone has Peter's memories up to the beginning of college is that this is supposed to be late Ditko era-Peter, before John Romita took over and Peter got a makeover, settled his differences with Flash, and had two hot girls fighting over him. The Romita run, IMO is one of the greatest the character ever had, and Romita was 100% responsible for making Peter more upbeat and giving him a steady girlfriend. So I guess all those Marvel editors who insist Peter should always be miserable, single, and a teenager must hate anything made after Ditko left the title, huh? So yeah, they're destroying Spider-Man for the sake of making him a perpetually angsty youngster that they can live vicariously through, all because they can't let go of whatever nostalgia they had for the early days of the character. Well, I hope they're happy.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 14 күн бұрын
Which is why the current Ultimate Spiderman is so beloved, since much like the John Romita run, Peter as a character develops naturally. Along with the story beats working well and his love life being so steady that he's a dad trying to raise kids with his wife, MJ!
@OkMakuTree
@OkMakuTree 18 күн бұрын
LMAO I was not prepared for the Kingpin’s rocket ferris wheel 😂
@thanoskell1335
@thanoskell1335 18 күн бұрын
Funnily enough Peter not coming to the "I'm a clone" conclusion kinda fits some of his early stories. There were a few stories where he lept to some bizzare conclusions like him thinking he had a split personality when Chameleon (or maybe it was mysterio) was cosplaying him.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 17 күн бұрын
audiences forget peter parker very early on was ver asocial feisty, angry and apparently a cloudcuckolander
@MeliesCinemagician
@MeliesCinemagician 18 күн бұрын
"No! Don't tilt the hovercraft!" Rock the boat! Don't rock the boat, baby! Rock the boat! Don't tip the boat over! Hope you and the kitties have a good new year, Linkara!
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 18 күн бұрын
Happy Anniversary and New Year, Linkara! Funny how a lot of main universe plot developments begin as What If... stories. MARVEL: The House of (Reused) Ideas! And where the deuce was the Gwen Stacy clone (Gwwen Stacy?) all this time up until Clone COnspiracy apparently dropped a bridge on her? 11:57 They call it the "Freshman 15" for a reason. 16:19 Good thing Warren never joined the Weapon X project, right? Right? 22:55 So, the perfect Peter Parker clone?
@willembirgel6530
@willembirgel6530 18 күн бұрын
A What-If month sounds interesting, if you don't mind me saying.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
It does! Like, have it in January and name it: What if-uary
@lonewolf6884
@lonewolf6884 18 күн бұрын
22:45 Two Spider-Man swinging around from New Yorker?! Psst that will no way ever ever happen. Next you will tell me there will be a Afro-Latino American Spider-Man
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 18 күн бұрын
*Afro Latino
@benwasserman8223
@benwasserman8223 18 күн бұрын
Afro-Latino Spider-Man. Respect his mom's side of the family!
@lonewolf6884
@lonewolf6884 17 күн бұрын
​@@benwasserman8223 Thanks for the correction
@johnoneil9188
@johnoneil9188 18 күн бұрын
Now I imagine the Kingpin on a giant road trip of the US to modify amusement parks in the off chance he ever has to fight Spidey there.
@tonystark106422
@tonystark106422 18 күн бұрын
How in the world did we go all the way through the original Clone Saga, through the 90s, and everything with Dan Slott and recent comic books, and nobody ever made a "Pete and Re-Pete" joke?
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
What would that make Kaine? Re-re-Pete?
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 18 күн бұрын
I know the what if show has some issues. I personally attribute that to them rushing so they can get to work on Marvel zombies. Regardless of the flaws, I personally love the series. Great Review and have a happy new year.
@Drekal684
@Drekal684 18 күн бұрын
I've also heard that the writers would bring up ideas and get told "no, we're doing something *like* that in a movie" so they couldn't quite go as off the wall as they wanted to.
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 18 күн бұрын
​@@Drekal684Ah I see. Sucks since that What If Surtur Attacks Earth idea looked like a possible great episode.
@ianr.navahuber2195
@ianr.navahuber2195 17 күн бұрын
@@Drekal684 yeah. i heard that happened at least 2 times: about guardians vol. 3 and thor love and thunder (this one i suppose they wanted a what if of jane foster lifting the hammer in the 1st film after thor failed)
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 18 күн бұрын
I KNEW IT GWEN STACY WAS THE REAL SPIDER-MAN THE WHOLE TIME
@ChristianNeihart
@ChristianNeihart 18 күн бұрын
WHAT IF... GWEN STACY WAS SPIDER-MAN?
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 18 күн бұрын
@ ya know I feel like you could make a comic out of that
@Caernath
@Caernath 18 күн бұрын
22:22 * Will Smith punch * "Welcome to Earfth!"
@thomaspalazzolo5902
@thomaspalazzolo5902 16 күн бұрын
Congrats on 16 years! AT4W can now legally drive!
@devlinburgess2463
@devlinburgess2463 17 күн бұрын
So, basically this exciting altaternate storyline is indistinguishable from "What if Spider-Man got a bad concussion and wandered around town wondering who everyone was?".
@stevenhedge2850
@stevenhedge2850 17 күн бұрын
What if spiderman had amnesia
@supersonicheroes
@supersonicheroes 18 күн бұрын
One last video to end the year. Thanks a lot Linkara! I look forward to more of your videos in 2025.
@wintersoldier164
@wintersoldier164 18 күн бұрын
I think thats the longest nap peter ever took in that cryochamber
@ajbXYZcool
@ajbXYZcool 18 күн бұрын
*huff huff huff* Took a week, but I've now caught up on the last 2 years of AT4W that I missed out on over the last 2 years!
@AT4W
@AT4W 18 күн бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it all!
@ZiedAlpha
@ZiedAlpha 18 күн бұрын
A TFS Fallout reference...Nice 😂
@CaptainAvenger1993
@CaptainAvenger1993 18 күн бұрын
“I make terrible decisions”-Linkara 2024
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
A quote that can sum up all this year and everybody basically
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz 18 күн бұрын
What If? Month sounds like a winner for a future theme month... especially if the selected What Ifs are ones that ended up becoming mainline continuity anyways (e.g. What If Jane Foster Became Thor? and What If Doctor Doom Became Sorcerer Supreme?)
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
More than likely, Linkara will cover What Ifs based on books he did before. Like civil war & Secret invasion, etc.
@zeroryoko999
@zeroryoko999 18 күн бұрын
Hmmm... What sort of logo intro should I do for that?
@ItsTheFizz
@ItsTheFizz 18 күн бұрын
@zeroryoko999 Well I'm not privy to Linkara's production or his selection process... But something with Uatu overlooking shards of relevant panels would probably be a good foundation...
@zeroryoko999
@zeroryoko999 18 күн бұрын
@@ItsTheFizz The shards would work. Uatu the Watcher... not too sure. That's not to say it can't be done, but SFM's workshop doesn't have a model of Uatu. That would have to be made from scratch. I don't know if VRoid can do it (It's possible), but the best way is to buy a 3D model with the bones and convert it which would take time.
@AlexGarcia-me6md
@AlexGarcia-me6md 16 күн бұрын
hey im happy for you linkara you have always stuck around and done ur thing. I have never been a regular watcher but I have seen ur videos occasionally throughout the years. happy new year. I hope you continue doing ur thing man!
@mesektet5776
@mesektet5776 18 күн бұрын
Happy sweet sixteen. Here’s hoping we make it through the next 4 years to twenty.
@tylersackett6302
@tylersackett6302 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Years Linkara! Even if this year has been bumpy, it’s still been great to watch your videos when they came out. Got my boyfriend to start watching you and he’s been enjoying your stuff ^^
@JamesAdams-nd1td
@JamesAdams-nd1td 18 күн бұрын
I’d personally like to see more Secret Origins than a different theme month, but Berger’s can’t be choosers. This episode makes me hope one day Linkara will review “The Real Clone Saga,” which was fantastic.
@JoeChillton
@JoeChillton 18 күн бұрын
Ya....let's roll. Thank you Lewis. Happy New Year
@cinomaticsith
@cinomaticsith 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Year Linkara. What a way to end the year on a Clone Saga review?
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Truly 2024 was a weird year
@gracekim1998
@gracekim1998 18 күн бұрын
I hope you're able to get some rest after this, appreciate learning about this clone saga stuff. it helped a lot when I recognised Ben in across the spiderverse so thank you :D
@JDPlaysMoth
@JDPlaysMoth 18 күн бұрын
Peter's blank crosseyed face during his talk with Betty is killing me, how could anyone not see he's the clone after that expression, the expression even carries into another panel😂
@infinityalbi9840
@infinityalbi9840 18 күн бұрын
So wait... according to this story Peter met Gwen, started dating her, she died, he mourned and he started dating MJ... all in 3 years? I dunno, I always thought it was longer...
@thanoskell1335
@thanoskell1335 18 күн бұрын
That's comics time for ya. And honestly it'd kinda would have to be considering he was still in college for a lot of that. And since this directly follows the original Clone Saga where Warren was a college professor of his it really couldn't be more than four years and likely less all things considered. Just kind of the oddity of how slow time has to move in this medium.
@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779
@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 18 күн бұрын
Nah that does sound about right, considering all this went down before he dropped out of college
@thanoskell1335
@thanoskell1335 18 күн бұрын
@@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779 I keep forgettin he's a dropout. Last time i saw it brought up was when i read superior years ago
@Grizabeebles
@Grizabeebles 18 күн бұрын
Just Marvel's "sliding time scale" at work. The 900+ issues of Spider-man comics so far all take place over about 10 years. We're at the point where at least 2 issues have to happen every week.
@shadowlinkbds
@shadowlinkbds 18 күн бұрын
Happy 16th anniversary!!!!!!....and well also happy new year technically too!!!!
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, anniversary & new year video all in one!
@VerdantRange
@VerdantRange 18 күн бұрын
I look forward to seeing the events at Coney Island here being covered by Coaster College.
@maxxjapan619
@maxxjapan619 18 күн бұрын
That Kingpin voice was so good, it sounded VERY close to Roscoe Lee Browne's (RIP).
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
I mean, Linkara has said how he grew up on Spiderman 🕷 🕸 the animated series
@tayojones9460
@tayojones9460 18 күн бұрын
Happy new year Lewis. And thank you for all the great videos and moments.
@spdrwrtr
@spdrwrtr 18 күн бұрын
Show of hands, who else wants a WHAT IF ? Month? I'll recommend Spider's Shadow by Chip Zdarsky to start
@zyanbob
@zyanbob 18 күн бұрын
27:00 the idea of clones swapping day to day reminds me of captain underpants but that was with 1 day distance past selves not 3 year distance clones
@Elysium_the_Bard
@Elysium_the_Bard 18 күн бұрын
12:40 The text implied seems to be that the Peter clone is happy to see Betty. His eyes trying to avoid contact with Betty, by rapidly trying to escape from the Peter clone's skull - in opposite directions of each other, seem to tell a different story...
@EmperorSeth
@EmperorSeth 18 күн бұрын
Well great, now I want a Spiderman Vs. Jason Vorhees story.
@Adrahoth
@Adrahoth 18 күн бұрын
Must not make schedule slippage joke in regards to "What If" month
@ilexgarodan
@ilexgarodan 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Year!
@MarvelKnight-tw9hb
@MarvelKnight-tw9hb 18 күн бұрын
Man I forgot how goofy kingpin used to be in the comics! 😂
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, before Daredevil made Kingpin more of a serious threat!
@TheAtomicChinchilla
@TheAtomicChinchilla 17 күн бұрын
Man, that clip of Captain Richard Ravager III really took me back! What a fun series that was.
@tfmaster96
@tfmaster96 18 күн бұрын
happy new year, linkara, viga and kitties
@monkeykingw
@monkeykingw 18 күн бұрын
I think my favorite thing is that Peter wakes up and he just takes everything in stride. Like "Man, I haven't had a stress free nap like that since before High School, you're my best friend now for giving me that"
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 18 күн бұрын
Yes please to What If month!
@danielbrant6740
@danielbrant6740 16 күн бұрын
Every time Lewis reviews any & all things Spider-Man, it just makes me wish he'd just play the Insomniac Spider-Man games already on livestream.
@ArcCaravan
@ArcCaravan 17 күн бұрын
21:36 Wow, that took me back. That was hilarious times.
@JomasterTheSecond
@JomasterTheSecond 18 күн бұрын
What If? Month would be pretty amazing, not gonna lie.
@malbi885
@malbi885 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Year's Eve Linkara please take a nap for your health!
@tonystark106422
@tonystark106422 18 күн бұрын
I thought David Cronenberg's Dead Ringers was a nightmare! Two Spider-Men? Two Peters? Think of the angst, the jealousy, the paranoia! The self-loathing will kill them both! You thought Parker was necrotic before? OMG It's like the worst feedback loop ever. They'll just feed and reinforce their depression forever. Honestly? I'd kinda love to read it.
@DeathofInk
@DeathofInk 18 күн бұрын
Cool to hear Linkara acknowledge how more popular and better written the Ultimate Spider-Man run is compared to the main comics and their disastrous presentations. Seriously, how Marvel could screw up letting 616 Spider-Man have a satisfying set-up as his Ultimate counterpart is beyond me. Hickman is giving Spiderfans everything they could want with that comic, it's not that hard to replicate!
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 18 күн бұрын
This so hard.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 14 күн бұрын
​@ChiefMedicPururu Mainly cuz the 616 spidey editors don't want to do it for some petty reason! Like having Peter mature as both a person/character isn't that hard to do, especially since he's been doing this hero stuff FOR YEARS!!
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 14 күн бұрын
@@thatonea-hole The editors probably share the same mindset as Jemas and Quesada, that Peter maturing would make him "boring" and "unrelatable".
@latrellboddie8906
@latrellboddie8906 4 күн бұрын
@@ChiefMedicPururu I think a lot of them do. We know Nick Lowe does considering what responded to a fan letter in ASM #57.
@ChiefMedicPururu
@ChiefMedicPururu 4 күн бұрын
@@latrellboddie8906 What did he say?
@ThatHybridGuy
@ThatHybridGuy 18 күн бұрын
I personally would love a What If month! I’m a sucker for that kind of thing and the D+ series specifically was *not* what I would have wanted from that kind of series
@Bladebrent
@Bladebrent 14 күн бұрын
I do like the idea that they'd give this what if a happy ending if they knew it wasnt gonna be followed-up on in anyway. I'm gonna imagine they realized the issues with BOTH of them being Peter (especially if Mary-Jane or someone comes over), and decide to just give Ben his own identity where he still plays Spider-man.
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 14 күн бұрын
They'd probably have certain things like if one of them is close to a crime happening, both are ready with their own suit to stop any at anytime!
@dnmstarsi
@dnmstarsi 17 күн бұрын
Never expected The Captain from TFS Plays to show up in AT4W. Also that clip of their arguably best moment in their playthrough.
@kemmdog4444
@kemmdog4444 18 күн бұрын
Thank goodness Sins Past was retconned.
@Pikachu2Ash
@Pikachu2Ash 18 күн бұрын
Was it? Oh thank god.
@Wright805
@Wright805 18 күн бұрын
@@Pikachu2Ash It was. Credit where it's due, the people at Marvel do get it right sometimes.
@stevenhedge2850
@stevenhedge2850 17 күн бұрын
I find it funny nick Spencer spent his entire run pretty much retconning things he didn’t like. “Oh kraken back alive? Na he’s dead and chameleon swears to make sure he will never be ressurected again.
@ClericOfPholtus
@ClericOfPholtus 18 күн бұрын
"I'M A ROBOT!!" I mean... the Clone thor definitely had odd robot parts beneath the skin, so it IS possible 😂
@dennisflood7246
@dennisflood7246 17 күн бұрын
A new at4w is the perfect thing to end the last year and start the new one.
@deltaprime3509
@deltaprime3509 18 күн бұрын
OoOo I’m excited for this the first what if comic on atop the forth wall and it’s something Lewis loves to talk about the what if elseworld stories and its always interesting to see him explain his passion for something. Ps what if marvel heroes existed in DC universe what would their lives be like in dc universe?
@thanoskell1335
@thanoskell1335 18 күн бұрын
I feel like for some their lives wouldn't differ too much in the beginning beyond maybe a detail or two, Hulk I can still see starting off as an outcast trying to reign in the beast or Steve dethawing and restarting his hero career though he in particular might have an easier time with it depending if the JSA were canon or not in this scenario. Others like the X-Men and Spider-Man might have an easier time of it since they would be in a much less cynical earth and thus they might benefit from more benefit of the doubt from the populace. It's an interesting thought experiment considering a lot of Marvel heroes's origins and lives are defined by how their earth treats its heroes and the oddities so putting them in an earth that is generally way more trusting and praising of their type might change a lot or little on a very case by case basis. Like would Reed be as driven to make the Fantastic Four famous as his form of redemption and to protect his family from being treated horribly because they're different in a world that openly embraces say Superman or Martian Manhunter, I can see it but I can also see that path diverging in some interesting ways.
@KeithSchwerin
@KeithSchwerin 17 күн бұрын
I cant believe ive been watching since like 2011. It doesn't feel that long. I was in my 20's. I'm in my 40's now.
@nicwoolfe3885
@nicwoolfe3885 18 күн бұрын
Happy Anniversary & New Year, Linkara. Maybe this year, ~somehow~, will be better than the last
@williamgreci8219
@williamgreci8219 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Year Linkara.
@mingchoi8369
@mingchoi8369 18 күн бұрын
Nice way to end 2024 with a late Clone Saga review for a what if comic that we saw on a live show once.
@SolitaryCore-mj2mr
@SolitaryCore-mj2mr 18 күн бұрын
yeah i know coney island is more than the amueement park but the thought of spidey and kingpin batle in bumper cars is just to funny :D edit didn't thought they have a showdown in the park ... coney island has no other landmarks it seems
@ShinyGaara65
@ShinyGaara65 18 күн бұрын
Kingpin: OF COURSE!
@DemonGroceryStore
@DemonGroceryStore 16 күн бұрын
I'm 5 minutes in and already this is better than 80% of Whatif season 3.
@jazzreldeguzman
@jazzreldeguzman 15 күн бұрын
Basically the ending is the prestige but with spiderman
@comicscinemaothermedia9247
@comicscinemaothermedia9247 18 күн бұрын
An Elseworld, What If?... month would be cool. And what else could you call it but What Else?... Month!
@butchdeadlift10
@butchdeadlift10 18 күн бұрын
15:36 Now I am wondering which super hero would have the worst time in Silent Hill. Like, lets assume Silent Hill adjusts for super powers relative to the trauma the hero has been through. So even if The Hulk was trapped there, all the monsters would be as menacing to a guy that strong.
@SegaNintendoGuy64
@SegaNintendoGuy64 18 күн бұрын
21:54 Welcome back once again Spiderman TAS clip involving a bad comic book plot. Still classic for over 16 years.
@flyingfist4203
@flyingfist4203 18 күн бұрын
I love last minute uploads! Happy New Year commenters. EDIT: Happy Belated 16th Anniversary!
@thatonea-hole
@thatonea-hole 18 күн бұрын
Happy New Year/ Belated 16th anniversary!
@grimandbilly005
@grimandbilly005 18 күн бұрын
My favorite drop is the "of course! Don't you know anything about science?" Cracks me up every time
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