What if Antarctica Was A Green Continent?

The southern-most continent, isn't really thought about by the rest of the world. Its a cold wasteland, except for penguins. But what if it was just as warm as any other landmass? Here is one scenario.
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[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Hey everyone. This video was done in collab with Mr. Beat, who talks about how realistic it would be to start a country on Antarctica today. So go check that out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opKyk2ZnfZyonLM Also some of the art for this video was done by ABRRausch, check out more of her art here: twitter.com/RauschAB

[@goofyroofy]

wait what....the earth was 25F hotter than it is now????? B-but AOC says we only have like 10 years left now??? LOOOL XD Imagine if Al Gore made a video then, he'd be telling us to freak out over global cooling, too funny. Ok wait, im typing as im watching, now youre saying there was more CO2 than now, OMG how did anything ever survive XD Greta and the others should really watch this XD

[@iwillnotgiveyoumyname4405]

AlternateHistoryHub what if plans were never invented

[@gcavazos01]

What if the bay of pigs was a successful operation and wasn’t a blemish on the Kennedy administration?

[@hadtrio6629]

do a video about this what if scenarios: the USSR joined the axis powers during WW2 what if the ottoman empire had a industrial revolution in parallel with Europe at the time the USA had the 1st communist revolution instead of Russia

[@danielcampion251]

Speculative biology is fun. Do more.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

“What if Antarctica was a green continent?” **

[@hiboomer1191]

For the empire!

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Local Wildlife: Why do I hear boss music?

[@L_M185]

@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Antartica has a shit ton of oil more than Russia. There's just a drilling ban treaty at the moment

[@obsidianmusic8211]

the problem is that if the world would be 10°C warmer and Antarctica green, most of human development wouldnt have happend the same way as it is today and the sea level would be mutch higher.

[@GohanLSSJ2]

There's a story called Green Antartica... The British tried just that, and the Natives, a group known as the Tsalal... Completely brutalized them all the way into England.

[@jonnyowens5046]

Britain: “Gentleman you had my curiosity but now you have my attention”

[@samandriaz5905]

Suddenly cannibals.

[@memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724]

I think it be sliced up before one country could take full control.

[@wuyev]

more like now you have my erection

[@ganjahfarmer4469]

british empire: hippity hoppity antarctica is my property

[@chrismccann9164]

Doesn't the queen own enough countries already ... Keep your hands off Brits out !

[@robertmech3069]

A tropical land that is stuck in darkness for 4 months a year would support plants and fungi that have adapted to give off light, just like underwater and in caves and indeed some dense, dark jungles

[@deadmemes21]

And literally every plant and fish in Subnautica

[@sunshineimperials1600]

Antarctica would’ve evolved to look like Pandora in Avatar. The animals would’ve been just as exotic too, and we would be fascinated with the continent.

[@711truther6]

@@sunshineimperials1600 Now I can just picture some spanish explorers stumbling across bio luminescent plants and think "whoa, look at these cool magic plants that glow in the dark! If we could cultivate these in the homeland they could provide an endless light source for our homes and city streets without need of candles or oil lamps!"

[@thomasying4990]

@@711truther6 so perhaps no electricity?

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Pandora on Earth

[@cow1816]

I do remember when I was very young, that I thought the maps shown in class were just one side of the planet and there was a whole other side that we just didn't have many maps of. Imagine the disappointment when I found out.

[@thewitchpolyglot6625]

SAME

[@bestrafung2754]

That's kind of what flat earthers believe lol

[@tucan9111]

That makes a good scenario actually

[@mautun3830]

life is dissapointing sometimes

[@mirandabee2323]

Just like in Neopets

[@KanyeTheGayFish69]

Antarctica during summer: “The sun never sets on the British empire” Antarctica during winter: “yes but actually no”

[@Yora21]

England: "Yes, but actually no."

[@demigodgamer8517]

Well actually the reason for that phrase was because Britain was so far-reaching that even when most of it was night-time at least one part would be in daylight, and by the time that one had nightfall the rest were in day.

[@juicylemon4154]

@Yora Britain / the UK is not just England wtf

[@Ichijoe2112]

@@juicylemon4154 ok but, but what has Whales ever done for you? And the Scott's are just plain insane.

[@eaglefrost6168]

@@Ichijoe2112 Whales

[@Call_me_Dali]

Antartica: exist Spain: how about some Jesus, bucko

[@henryeberman6342]

The Melon Spain was Christian During World War II America Troops in the Philippines would camp in church’s which were made by Spanish missionaries

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

@The Melon because no vehicle allows you to escape... ok ill stop

[@zionj104]

There's a verse in the Bible that talks about the bottom of the earth and it seems an awful lot like it's describing Antarctica... can't remember where it's found tho

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

@@zionj104 but has it always been there though? Que xfiles theme

[@zionj104]

@@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902 Yes. (hands over Hebrew manuscipts)

[@carjosephmaligmat3978]

“What if Antarctica was a green continent?” The British Empire: You know the rules and so do I.

[@karthikcv8104]

The Sun for 4 months: Say goodbye

[@kakalimukherjee3297]

never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down

[@Ethan-cq7yz]

And hurt you

[@deusmachinima1189]

@@karthikcv8104 the sun finally sets on the British empire.

[@dirtyyy7668]

@@karthikcv8104 The Brits are not used to seeing the Sun anyways

[@Tiberium10332]

An continent where there is no sun for months? I could imagine that Bioluminescence could evolve there far more then on other continents. Imagine giant fields or even forests with glowing mushrooms.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*ohhh, look at all the colors*

[@concept5631]

@@scottmantooth8785 Beautiful

[@diggerproductions8603]

new idea for my dnd campaign

[@An-kw3ec]

The regions with extreme seasons will most likely still being tundra, Antarctic coasts have a similar latitude of Scandinavia and northern canada, places where you can still find boreal forests, none of them are bioluminescent, most of the gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline when the continent was closer to the ecuator, the The Magellanic subpolar forests in chile are the remains of Antarctica's ancient forests.

[@yancgc5098]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@An-kw3ec “most of gondwana biota in Antarctica lived around the coastline” mate we don’t even know what kind of fossils are below those Antarctic ice sheets, and you out here assuming they all lived in the coastline? lol

[@josephgoings5472]

Think about how many Polynesians set out for Islands but never found them

[@notorious_majora]

"well guys.. I messed up.. and we're outta food so..." It's sad but I'm sure it happened a lot

[@russia1305]

@@notorious_majora they would have let the currents take them back to their islands

[@Kara_Kay_Eschel]

Aliens!

[@STM1066]

Many Polynesians died to bring us this information

[@alex_zetsu]

The stereotype that most colonization were accidental lost fishing trips has been disproven. The Polynesians were good "sailors" and most of them have been proven to be deliberate colonization attempts. Of course, someone had to have found the land first and I'm sure a lot of them did in fact get lost, but a lot less that you might think.

[@cheybat5390]

I desperately need someone to make a fake nature documentary based on this scenario

[@Exoneos]

I approve this and leave a dot for being notified if that happen .

[@mattnorris7124]

If someone could make a movie or Netflix series about people in this hypothetical environment, I would be eternally grateful.

[@crimsondynamo615]

If we could have gotten many documentaries of either life millions of years in the future or even fictional alien planets like Darwin IV, surely green Antarctica would be prime material for documentaries.

[@esteban20969564]

narrated by morgan freeman?

[@redcoat4348]

Read the timeline Green Antartica. It's creepy, lovecraftian, but it is very good with biology.

[@mmrw]

It blows my mind how people basically guessed that Australia and Antarctica existed before ever having a clue they were real

[@carlgharis7948]

Well look at it this way.. it was a guess but some though behind it kid of made sense.

[@seanseen_]

I mean they just assumed there must be more land somewhere

[@mmrw]

@@seanseen_ true I guess just comparing it to the European discovery of the Americas where they didn’t know about them at all and didn’t even guess they were there. Granted this was much later so people had a better understanding of how big the world is

[@Lawrence330]

Doesn't this fall under some survivorship bias? Lots of people throughout history have conjectured at all kinds of things. Some correct, some incorrect. We (collectively) tend to diminish the incorrect and emphasize the correct, especially to reinforce a narrative of intellectual superiority over "primitives" and pre-renaissance peoples.

[@xianxiaemperor1438]

@@Lawrence330 Indeed, you're right

[@lorenzomartorellinilsson8493]

"Why does it get dark at 5?" *laughs in northern european*

[@shreyansamantrai4065]

@XxObamiumMaster69xX Laughs in dark at 3

[@shreyansamantrai4065]

What province are you in cause I'm albertan

[@shreyansamantrai4065]

I think sun light depends on where you are

[@shreyansamantrai4065]

@XxObamiumMaster69xX Hmm in alberta by november or october lights out at 3-4-5

[@alterbr33d]

I was going to say a good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica but their Navy and resources aren't far reaching. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome.

[@BigslattYSL]

Green Antarctica: *exists* British Empire: It’s free real estate!

[@johnuthus]

Oil: *Exists* USA : Time to liberate the opessed

[@edwardbrown3721]

@Cassien Martineau I can actually see this happening

[@alexjv1370]

Claire Ueda Europe just needs to pull a classic Germany and yall will be fine. I mean it seems like the parties are already taken place to do so

[@jtr7377]

Regular British: "The sun shall never set on the British Empire" British Antarctic Colonist: "Hello darkness my old friend"

[@l0lLorenzol0l]

Imagine all the fucking tea and spices you could grow there?

[@LorrTube]

I think an green Antarctica would be like Alaska, only bigger. Dense centers of civilization with wast spaces of wilderness around it. And everyone either works in fishing, hunting, mineral extraction, nature tourism and producing reality TV-shows about all of the above.

[@RoScFan]

I just said the same thing but with more embelishment.

[@bumblingbureaucrat6110]

@Bangbabangbabangbang Alaska is green in the South.

[@1nt3rn4ltr0n]

@Bangbabangbabangbang yes, but they poured money because of G O L D and O I L

[@innosam123]

Bangbabangbabangbang Alaska has a ton of resources. And agriculture is possible on the coast.

[@aronbraswell1589]

If Antarctica was warm and green like Alaska humans would thrive there just like Alaska. You learn to survive where you are with what you're provided with. Our ancestors were the greatest McGuyvers. Settlers may have made all whale populations extinct though using whale oil to bright the night

[@angerpotato9308]

“What if Antarctica Was a Green Continent” Britain: MINE

[@cerridianempire1653]

Spain and France not if I have anything to say about it

[@zkittlezthabanditt604]

Hipity Hoping, this land is bow my Property

[@Cj-xt6tv]

Rule Britannia exe

[@coolguy9709]

Britian: It all belongs to me everything you see

[@mikal]

I once had a dream that I was in Antarctica, and it was settled. There were houses, stores, bars, everything. It was still cold as hell, but people decided to set up shop there. Now I want to make it happen.

[@mikicerise6250]

Siberia or Alaska may be the place for you. ;)

[@malicexvii7905]

i had a dream that i was stranded in Antarctica for some reason and i stumbled upon a lost civilization. they lived in a place that looked just like emerald city and everything in it was made out of ice. and everyone had light blue skin.

[@mohammadalbader3538]

There's an online story called Green Antarctica which is lovecraftian mixed with document style writing

[@fadillangston9797]

Dear God no. That's terrible.

[@x.0_o.x]

We don't need to

[@thekasa02]

"No sun for months would be a real difficulty for human settlement." Nordics *Am I a joke to you?*

[@mobeenkhan824]

The nord don't live far enough North to experience that.

[@thetwilightgamer]

Northern Alaskans and Canadians: *are we a joke to you?*

[@laurafisher2535]

In pre-electricity times, at least the Scandinavians got a couple of hours of light each day in winter to get shit done.

[@beurteilung713]

@@mobeenkhan824 Yes but they live far enough north to experience the closest thing to it.

[@leifbirgerolsen9167]

@@mobeenkhan824 visot north norway and youll see

[@gabe8831]

Green Antarctica is discovered. British: Hipity hopity this land is now my pro... Sun leaves. British: Oh hell no

[@DneilB007]

Yeah, it’s not that different from what you get living on the Orkneys, or in northern Canada - where Orkney Islanders basically ran the fur trade for the Hudson’s Bay Company. Let’s add in another factor: the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840s. If the Brits allow Catholics to inherit property in Terra Australis, then they have a pool of up to a couple million people who might be willing to risk the journey to a new land.

[@iamarizonaball2642]

I’m ur first subscriber

[@romanempire3506]

@@iamarizonaball2642 Nobody Cares

[@briishperson5166]

Sun never sets on the British Empire... unless they were in Antarctica

[@keychain___8836]

The empire were the sun only rises like half the times

[@JoeBurner1720]

The crops during the summer would grow to massive sizes due to the constant summer, similar to alaska, which holds many records for vegetable sizes

[@laughable6650]

9:26 Hol’ up... Does that mean that the Minecraft mushroom biome could be theoretically possible?

[@bitchassmoththing]

terraria mushroom biome seems more possible in a "green antarctica" timeline tbh

[@yoga5631]

Antartica: is full of fauna and warm British Empire: "Hippity Hoppity this land is now British property"

[@rocket_sensha4337]

not warm.. but green-ish, its still the south pole after all. so pack some ticc socks before.

[@BrushEm]

*Has an indigenous population* Britain: "So anyway i started blasting"

[@kshitijsrivastava6440]

The spanish: make a note of that country's bravado

[@nicolethompson4823]

British East Antarctica

[@rokojakus2144]

We would never have club penguin so this scenario sucks

[@BlitzerXYZ]

What about African penguins that exist couldn't they still exist

[@JamesLawner]

Don't forget Happy Feet.

[@pasha-ly4ss]

Matthew Quinn but there would be no ice...

[@Crick1952]

Officially the worst timeline

[@jackkeown6115]

NZ has lots of penguins and its not the coldest 0lace in the world.

[@xuanluu4873]

“Even if the ice didn’t wiped out these creatures, humans would have” Extreme day and night cycles preventing full colonization: imma stop you right there

[@alterbr33d]

Are you kidding me? The night and day cycles don't really matter. A good example of a modern populous city for Antarctica is Tromsø, Norway. It has a population of over 70,000 and is 69.6° N. It was declared a city in 1794, and even in that time period it was often referred to as the Paris of the North. It doesn't have daylight in December, but has twilight in December and a few hours of sunlight in November and January, that would be flipped for Antarctica. About 70°S in Antarctica would be half of Palmer Land, the Antarctic Peninsula or an eight of Wilkes Land, the whole East Coast of Antarctica. Tromsø today is powered by hydroelectricity from fjords which Antarctica does have, and if there ever was a frozen winter, Sweden uses nuclear in the winter and of course there is coal. And if you want to think of more extremes with large animals like Polar Bears and more barren land maybe for central Antarctica, then Longyearbyen in Svalbard (Norway) is a good example for the near center of Antarctica which is 78°N but in this case would be 78°S. Norway today is advanced, has healthy people with low poverty, respects the land, animals and natives (Sami) so I think they'd have a good chance in this Antarctica. Maybe another country could try to run it like Tromsø or Longyearbyen though. You don't have to have sunlight for a successful human city, not everyone gets depressed in the dark, I was up there for three months in the winter (but in Sweden), I thought it was awesome. Even if it was round the year darkness, these days they could have a fjord powered black light system for farms. It would look kind of sci fi.

[@xuanluu4873]

@@alterbr33d you do know that what you’re talking about only applies to the modern day, right? We’re talking about colonization during the colonial periods, before the industrial revolution

[@alterbr33d]

@@xuanluu4873 Tromsø was declared a city a few decades after the start of the industrial revolution and your OP mentioned colonization which doesn't have to be the same as the colonial period, places could be colonized in the early 1800s too. After lots of revolutions, Antarctica could be seen as the last haven of colonization.

[@xuanluu4873]

@@alterbr33d what do you mean by “last haven of colonization”? That it’s the only place without extensive colonization?

[@jzjzjzj]

@@xuanluu4873 you do realize people have lived in greenland for thousands of years?

[@docquanta6869]

Honestly I think you are greatly overplaying the difficulty of dealing with the day/night cycle. People do live above the arctic circle. It is a thing people can and do adapt to, even with the very cold winters. Plus a warm Antarctica would probably be as resource rich as Australia, giving colonists plenty of reason to live their.

[@codykillir10]

A large unclaimed habitable landmass likely containing massive oil and mineral reserves? *star spangled banner starts blasting*

[@ls200076]

@United States China and Russia: Hahaha *Building secret bases intensifies*

[@lalalablablabla2130]

Most of Antarctica belongs to Australia. They found it well before America

[@rocekth]

​@@lalalablablabla2130 You sure? The people credited with first sight on Antarctica consisted of officers from the Russian and British navies, and some sealer from America

[@rudyschwab7709]

America needs all that oil to come bail your asses out of the next world war you people start.

[@MrXuliest]

@@lalalablablabla2130 Those claims are not recognized internationally, the British would've claimed it for themselves, since they were there before Australia was even a independent nation.

[@corvusprojects]

Imagine how wild it would be to see the aurora on a tropical beach

[@RhodianColossus]

I mean it kinda almost happens irl. maybe not tropical beaches, but the summers are getting scarily hotter and hotter every year in europe now, and finland and sweden have plenty of beaches and summers warm enough to enjoy them. it's actually warmer in most of the baltic sea in summer than the ocean off the coast of LA. Northern lights reach as far south as northern germany sometimes, and last summer it was anywhere between 30 and 40 C from may til september here, and up in the low 30's even in the northernmost parts of finland

[@shmeckle666]

Cameron Eridan the west coast of the US-thanks to the northern Cold pacific currents flowing south, compared to say the east coast and the gulf warm currents flowing north-pacific water is cold as fuck! Like...always. So your comment is totally believable.

[@kittycat-sc7je]

Ah just got to wait a while and make sure to use a lot of fossil fuels 😊

[@k3kboi665]

@@RhodianColossus but here the thing. To see the lights you have to have a night and a dark one at that. The summer nights here in finnland are either no existant in the north or wery bright here in the south. And the light pollution from towns whic mostly are near to the coast makes that worse.

[@RhodianColossus]

@@k3kboi665 the nights are not *that* bright in southern sweden and the southern coast of the Baltic. They get as dark as nights get anywhere else. The earliest ive ever seen twilight start was like quarter to 4 in the morning, and plenty of the baltic coast isn't completely light polluted. There are dark sky zones, theyre just not common

[@giovannirafael5351]

I think the first ones to arrive would actually be from Tierra del Fuego in South America, since it is quite closer to Antarctica and it is probable they visited the continent before it was officialy "discovered". The Maori would probably colonize the other side of the continent too. Given enough time they'd probably turn into a whole separate community, meaning Antarctica would have a native indigenous population.

[@williammoreno-pp1og]

Tbh I don’t think the Māori would colonized the other side, native Americans produced very fast in those times like by the time the Māori people reach Antarctica it will already have millions of people in it already no room for Māori people to colonize it! Also they cannot handle the cold, native Americans can as native Americans adapted to many echo systems in the Americas while the Māori people live in only tropical places, and New Zealand is just mid cold!

[@ultraL2]

don't think you realise how far it is, and how rough the seas are down there

[@brainstormpictures8343]

The creature design shown here is incredible.

[@rorentin]

People in Terra Australis: Human: What if Australia was all ice? Alternate AlternateHistoryHub: Humans wouldn't exist

[@bsl1524]

Azuma Kyoukai plenty of ice in Australia

[@TvConfusionn]

Azuma Kyoukai Dick snorter

[@memoofjacoboarbenzjuanarev9724]

Treat of Australia. In most cases giant continents tend to get sliced up before fully controlled by one country.

[@taylorbarbieri4018]

Humans: *discover uninhabited landmass* Megafauna: *chuckles* _I’m in danger._

[@Blackfyre741]

British Empire: "So Hi we heard you've recently come into some natural resources! Please do not Resist"

[@nicolasheredia956]

Antartica: *Is not covered in ice* Spain, Chile and Argentina: *It's Free Real State*

[@nicolasheredia956]

@@VermillionJaktheSecond Spain could have perfectly had colonized the part of Antartica closer to the South Cone, after all, they were the first to colonize Argentina and Chile

[@therealvixe]

Britain : Australis is too far, we cant transport colonists Portugal : observe

[@heruuuuu]

🇵🇹

[@oldmanlogan9616]

I dont understand why he didnt mention the portuguese.

[@unimmature2088]

@@oldmanlogan9616 i guess Brazil but then France should be put

[@sportsfails4998]

Unimmature Timor Leste and Mozambique?????

[@unimmature2088]

@@sportsfails4998 still not that far

[@SpartiniMartini]

Cody: "New Holland, which I dont think anyone would have stuck with" New Zealand: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@nullskull-everything5495]

Nub93 thats brittish

[@louisg6296]

@@nullskull-everything5495 this was once called nieuw Amsterdam (in dutch)

[@nullskull-everything5495]

Louis G yeah i know that, i took 7th grade history ya know

[@tylahshaskey7302]

😂

[@raizin4908]

New Zealand is named after the Dutch province of Zeeland, which means Sea Land. A name presumably chosen because it has a lot of sea between its land. It's basically a collection of peninsulas and islands.

[@aneeshsrinivas892]

Imagine if game freak made this antarctica a pokemon reigon, complete with the bioluminescent flora and all that jazz.

[@Docwilson91]

So far “full on alien space bats” and “suck it Perth” actually made me laugh out loud

[@abramgafford2404]

Antarctica:*has no sun for months Vampires: I found my winter get away

[@legoleviathan6411]

Abram Gafford but it will still be cold so

[@newstartyt3700]

Someone: uses garlic on vampire

[@joe090309]

It’d be a northern hemisphere vampire summer retreat. Seasons being switched over the months between north and south vampires would flee down there in June and come back in December

[@rev.andyh.1082]

What if Antarctica was green? ...short answer: “British sovereign territory.”

[@samandriaz5905]

The Tsalal say hello.

[@samandriaz5905]

Also rocket toting necrophiles.

[@kattyshi14]

Dominion of Antarctica

[@saloni22815]

True

[@rev.andyh.1082]

@CobaltMusketeer No... The Spanish, much less the French don’t possess the constitution necessary to properly civilize and keep such a land. “They’re a weak lot in Europe, you know-weak, feeble.” - Margaret Thatcher

[@flyingsquirrel4777]

This is unironically a really good dnd setting

[@Squid2403]

Unique Animals: (Exist) Humans: Oh boy here I go killing again...

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Humans: "How can we ruin this?"

[@KainDestinedAscension]

Rick and Morty

[@Dai.Jokumann]

Philippine flag 🇵🇭

[@Mitaka.Kotsuka]

well... the ice did it this time so... may be the humans could save a specie or two

[@totalanarchy-yt]

Humans: "So anyway I started blasting"

[@RoverStorm]

Not going to lie, if the monotony of darkness during the night months was broken up by glowing mushrooms and auroras, I would live there. Sounds like a magical twilight forest, something out of a fantasy legend.

[@deadtoallnohonornohope]

I'm guessing an alternate universe version of myself lives in that mystical place.

[@Jaracara11]

For the first few days you would enjoy it.

[@petrfedor1851]

Described like this it sound like Ghibli movie.

[@hiddensalami4334]

Itd be like Skyrim and Morrowind combined!

[@DarkLordOfSweden]

Until you experience the bane of all northerners, extreme lack of vitamin D

[@sndawihc6713]

For the megafauna thing, it's entirely possible that humans did encounter megafauna, because the indigenous people in australia had been living there for at least 50,000 years, some speculate the number was in the hundreds of thousands, and it wouldnt even have to have been that high for the two species to have encountered one another

[@naruhina1997]

It would be interesting is the Polynesian settlers adapted to the dark months. Like, not night vision but just better eyes in dark. Little fantasy kick, what is bioluminescent plants evolved there to light up the continent during winter!!!

[@GaladorLP]

Maybe they could see enough from the polar lights

[@0311Mushroom]

Probably larger eyes to collect more light in winter, with larger brows for shade in summer. Think Neanderthal Anime people.

[@abydos7775]

It's possible. The indigenous people on the southern tip of South America adapted to be able to swim in the ocean even though it was around freezing temperature and they acted as if it were nothing. Any other people's would die of hypothermia in minutes. They'd also most likely beat the Maori by hundreds of years to Antartica.

[@briangarcia7384]

@@abydos7775 I guess that depends on wether any land bridges either form or get close enough between both landmasses to act as a passage

[@williammoreno-pp1og]

@@briangarcia7384 actually South America is way wayyy closer to Antarctica, then the Polynesians islands, you can see through the maps as well, I’m pretty sure native Americas would have found Antarctica far before anyone dose!

[@illuminati_watching8391]

I can imagine a land with that long of nights and a decent climate would have a load of bioluminescence

[@nicolaszan1845]

And plenty of the fauna would probably have night vision too. Some herbivores might need to have either a fungi-inclusive diet, though, or long hibernation periods.

[@mattnorris7124]

@@nicolaszan1845 What's more scary than not being able to see at night? Knowing huge killer animals can see you clear as day at 200 yards.

[@grusha9516]

@Aspiring Marauder bruh have you seen Australian, we have tiny kangaroo like mice with bright lime green shrubs that taste like sweet bubblegum.

[@marsa9828]

...we have it in scandinavia. and no, we don't have it.

[@tmt_0488]

Imagine an alternate history where Antarctica really didn’t have the ice and alternate history hub talks about another history where Antarctica was covered in ice

[@MATAM29]

There is one

[@cryopex9976]

tmt_04 “well you see, if antartica was covered in ice, Burundi couldnt be superpower”

[@CalebVonGames]

@@cryopex9976 XD

[@withsupreme2767]

My poor brain

[@iamarizonaball2642]

I would like to get teleported to the zealandia universe

[@minhobang2626]

"What if Antarrctica Was A Green Continent?" Me: What if Ocean was green and our land was wwater instead??

[@karrotakun3581]

Water would likely be more valuable than oil in that reality. With only 25% of the world covered in water, we'd be fighting over shit near constantly.

[@minhobang2626]

@@karrotakun3581 ahhh yes

[@FakeDelTaco]

I feel like the megafauna of Antarctica might do well. The Polynesians would send many scouting missions there, and the first campsites would be abandoned upon the coming of the long night. This would allow the animals to adapt to the presence of humans, while also having time afterwards to rebuild. And the on-and-off colonization of the Europeans would allow them to slowly adapt to humans with firearms. I think that Antarctica would be tied with Africa for the wildest continent.

[@ReviveHF]

"Antarctica is green +oil discovered" US: That land needs freedom.

[@adrianmark613]

Us: hold my beer..

[@benjaminmcintosh857]

Time to manifest some destiny

[@DeeJayFM]

@@ChineduOpara that's better

[@Euphoric_Toast]

The world must learn of our peaceful ways. By Force

[@illerac84]

@@Euphoric_Toast It is the only way.

[@jaythephoenix]

Had an odd dream of Antarctica in the far future as the only inhabitable continent. I was in a coastal area, around 65 f, which was a huge oil refinery. Guess we didn't learn in that world.

[@jerichohill487]

Great video. Butt You go through all that and dont mention the Great Old Ones that would be in the mountains, and them not going into hibernation, cause that would have a drastic effect on the entire planet.

[@Jabooty_Williams]

Britain: land? African poachers: animals? America: dead animals means oil right?

[@elgrantiburonasesino8940]

hotel: Trivago?

[@Jabooty_Williams]

@@elgrantiburonasesino8940 yes hotel: trivago!

[@lordroy88]

El Gran Tiburón Asesino dead: meme?

[@sipherys1961]

@@mug1337 OOOGA BOOGA OOOGA BOOGA

[@Zalwalloo]

Good: FOOD

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

AHH: *talking about the long dark winters* me, a nordic person: HA! Smells like home!

[@electricangel4488]

i can see some dutch colonie being floaded with baltic settlers comming trough the trade networks. sweden denmark and norway still have some ambition in the late 19th. then as the british french and dutch settlers leave for the winter the colony becomes more and more scandinavian

[@honeyham6788]

@@electricangel4488 that actually gives me an idea. Sweden was just as much a "colony" empire as england was back in the day, but the ultimately couldn't compete with england over the americas. But perhaps they'd find Antarctica to be a more favorable game. They'd send enslaved Finnish prisoners to work the land in the late winter, with the main Swedish colonists living in Antactica like the Spanish ruling over half-bloods in South-America. Perhaps with the existence of Swedish colonies down south, they'd have the financial stakes to compete with europe again, not abandoning the arms race after their defeat by Germanic tribes aiding Russia in the Second Northern War. ' Perhaps after the invention of electricity, the Swedish Colonies would become as prosperous as America was, with no competition, except for the polenesians (and I imagine the colonists would want as much help as they could during the endless nights, so they'd be forced to get along with the natives, unlike the americans who exploited their natives. So when the Colonists eventually break free of Sweden and become their own thing (which, looking at Greenland and Denmark, it might never actually happen, but the distance to travel may make it difficult to keep.) Perhaps to maintain trade and surplus with their most-southern Colony, Sweden will fight over the land in South Africa as a port town to store all the resources their colonies collect.

[@electricangel4488]

@@honeyham6788 ''Germanic tribes''? dont think sweden has the power of ability to get that mush naval power over a ocean that far away. there power likely be far more soft like portgual rulling brazil or the dutch rulling indonesia. sweden has always been fairly army based and there naval inovation where long gonne by the time this continent became a thing to my knowledge. the finnish and polynesians* indeed be possible as a lower cast but that whould recuire a luxury export society. Wich seems unlikely as antarticas ecosystem whould be closer to europe then south america and thuse no coffee, sugar, or tabaco, sugar is possible but likely not better then in the carribean. gold mines be possible but that ussualy has a boom afther discovery or the natives already use them. there for i think them more likely as a American colonial experiment. colonial cities on the coast that give land grants to farmer those farmers but high end goods from the mother country and sell raw materials like lumber or grain. It be realy simliar to canada in that regard.

[@honeyham6788]

@@electricangel4488 In the Second Great Northern War, Germany hadn't been formed yet, they were only a collection of Germanic Tribes. and while Sweden was busy pushing back Russian naval assaults, the Germanic tribes came in immediately after Russia pulled out, which exhausted Sweden to the point of surrendering, and as a result, stepped out of european politics altogether. yeah, fair. a Canadian style colony makes sense. Not sure what earth-y resources exist in the land. I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to mine in Antarctica so it's not something we'll likely find any time soon

[@tylermech66]

@@honeyham6788 dude, they werent tribes, they were hundreds of actual kingdoms, bishoprics, and republics. Germans hadnt been tribal for centuries at that point.

[@lincolnacn2287]

“Mayory” Me who is South Pacific: *angry Hakka noises

[@frankvandorp2059]

11:26 I like how that map shows Tierra del Fuego as a part of this mythical "Terra Australis', because at that point no one had come around yet to just sailing around the island.

[@yeeturmcbeetur8197]

I feel like some animals and plants would’ve evolved some killer bioluminescence. It would’ve just been a land of light up skechers.

[@midshipman8654]

Yeetur McBeetur real morrowind hours. Mushroom houses when?

[@yeeturmcbeetur8197]

Jackson Almodobar I mean, basically.

[@Frank451Martin]

Will smurfs evolve over there?

[@yeeturmcbeetur8197]

Some Guy probably.

[@jenxkjquartuiopoquryzxmnv4287]

I can imagine glowing mushroom smurf villages now

[@dcay5652]

"The Dutch called it new Holland because ofcourse they did" Ofcourse we did everything was new Holland till the Brits came to ruin the fun

[@scoobyneedsadooby8305]

SkyWolf CARNAGE don’t worry we dealt with them in the revolutionary war 😒 they still didn’t fuck off

[@ajhare9658]

New York was once New Netherland with New Amsterdam as its capital lmao

[@Chameleon1616]

I think they knew the British where on their ass and spread their bets

[@WolfieLikesCake]

Grow me my tea!

[@whogavehimafork]

Of course is two words

[@MrHavoc313]

I think the concept of a landmass uninhabited by human until the 1200's would be the coolest alternate universe story.

[@abdullahmalik267]

Isn't that just America?

[@emirvmendoza]

17:10 "this continent on our own planet is so harsh, we barely pay it any mind" *Just wait until oil is discovered in Antarctica*

[@11Survivor]

"Wait" It already has been

[@Glace1221]

As soon as you mentioned the shrooms thriving, I imagined that Anartica would basically be Morrowind.

[@ADMICKEY]

Or a mushroom biome from terraria

[@konstantinosrope-maker1228]

@@ADMICKEY insert rad mushroom biome soundtrack

[@JoshdaKnight]

I’m cool with this. Just as long as there’s no cliff racers

[@lunaballuna]

I imagined a bunch of bioluminescence mushrooms and plant/animal life and it was pretty in my head.

[@Jets_Archive]

@@JoshdaKnight don't worry. Juib made them extinct

[@medified4872]

“Good Lord, what is happening in there!” “Aurora Australis?”

[@gavinc3681]

“May I see it?”

[@derfakegangster]

"...No"

[@just_some_dude019]

@@derfakegangster "Seymour! The land is on fire!"

[@getstickbuggedlol5126]

“Oh no, it’s just the southern lights.”

[@VX_VectorPrimus]

"Well Seymour, you are a very weird person, but you sure can make a good steamed ham"

[@Harrold358]

What if Antacrtica instead of being more like an unhabitable ice cube, or warm Florida, was like Siberia? Still cold, but habitable.

[@simonkeverett]

2015: Intense techno-ambient music 2019: Chill Jazz

[@erojerisiz1571]

I like both

[@scottmantooth8785]

yeah...that's exactly what you would hear while walking around in a Green Antarctica

[@lowehardware1]

Ya like jazz?

[@Jan_Koopman]

The Dutch called this region "New Holland", because of course they did!

[@Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr_]

That whole two seasons thing would only apply to the interior of the continent. Much of the coastal areas are so far up north that they don't even have a polar night. The tip of the Antarctic peninsula isn't much further from the South Pole than Scotland is from the North Pole.

[@bestuan]

the dutch: *explores something* the british: excuse this is mine now

[@ryan-uf9gu]

this

[@neathizar9743]

Alternate History Hub: What if Antarctica was green? Me: What about if Rome never existed part 3?

[@MrPolandball]

@Jason Buford he already said that it got cancelled due to lack of ideas and youtube's monetization's policy.

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

How?

[@rasmusvanwerkhoven1962]

10:32 “The Dutch called it New Holland... because of course they did” That’s just so typical for the Dutch to do, lol (maak je geen zorgen, ik ben ook Nederlands)

[@sanderkoekkoek9866]

Een plaats om naartoe te zeilen... dat moeten we meteen doen @voc er valt vast wat te handelen.

[@colinlawless6300]

Ich mach mir gar keine Sorge, obwohl ich kein Niederlandisch spreche

[@paddaboi_]

@@sanderkoekkoek9866*_VERENIGDE OOSTINDISCHE COMPANGNIE_* asok G E K O L O N I S E E R D

[@atillanandorfuri3343]

“...just 30 years earlier, the first human set eyes to Anctartica...” The Piri Reis map: *hello there*

[@AidanMillward]

These theoretical Antarctican mammals resemble Pokemon.

[@speedercat154]

Mega sloth I choose you!

[@innosam123]

Green Antarctica is actually the Pokemon World, that’s why there’s usually never any night in the Pokemon games.

[@darthalex3]

@@innosam123 sun and moon: *am I a joke to you*

[@theMcWOPPER]

*Chinpokomon

[@roflcopter645]

@Aidan Millward and some of these theoretical Antarctican boulders resemble Cozzeh DFVs.

[@tonysee9170]

"only has two season; summer and winter" hey, just like chicago

[@1776gunpunk]

Yeah and winter came fast this year

[@Expandedsky]

Oh you live in Illinois that’s near Chicago

[@calamitycubed]

Tropical Countries: First time?

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@calamitycubed Mexicans: Hello there

[@acebalistic1358]

Alejandro Hernández General kenobi

[@matthewspringuel5370]

I would think that for the longest time, ANYONE during that time period who landed there would think it was a cursed land, what with the either constant sun or constant moon, and the superstitions that were instead common knowledge at the time. Though, for the Europeans at least, they would have known that it was something possible, given the extreme norths of Europe experience something close.

[@Katepuzzilein]

One thing about the climate: Afaik the opening of the Drake passage was the main thing that turned Antarctica into the icy hell it is today because all the cold water currents that were forced north along the coast of South America could now flow freely around Antarctica and cut it off from the warm ones. It's kinda the reverse of how the isthmus of Panama forming directly led to the formation of the Gulf/North Atlantic stream But one of the neat things about life in Antarctica already being adapted to long periods without sunlight: It makes Antarctica one of the places where some non-avian dinosaurs could have potentially made it beyond the K-Pg line. Of course it most likely would have been just some random small unenlagid or enantornithine but it's still a neat concept.

[@biliminsrlar5752]

"Screw this!" -James Cook

[@scottmantooth8785]

i missed that quote in history class

[@otterno.1128]

What about the native Fuegians from Tierra del Fuego in southern Chile/Argentina? They would travel between islands in canoes and if there was a tropical coast in nearby Antarctica that would mean warmer water, and they could possibly have made it to the land mass before even the Maori, or have formed a Madagascar-like mix of cultures/people if they colonised at similar times to the Maori. Two people groups from opposite sides of the earth living together and mixing on Antarctica would be a really cool scenario.

[@nicolaszan1845]

Well, that is if they ever actually met. I love the idea of a mix between those two cultures, but there's an entire continent separating them and I'm not sure either is very keen on exploring the entire thing.

[@erintreez]

Cool thought! Given enough time, I think the two groups would meet. Think of these two cultures, morphed to adapt to the extreme seasons, living amongst the Pokémon under the aurora! 💚😎

[@zurita1642]

Yes @NewBenCitu the Fueginos people was only detereth by the climate, they had plenty of time to set a colony if the Antarida was little more than a frozen dessert.

[@draz8302]

apparently there was a expidention around 650ad where a bunch of maori went down south past nz and apparently sighted antartica by a chief named Hui Te Rangiora

[@Mitaka.Kotsuka]

let ne guess... southern american trying to remind the world that there were natives in their lands?

[@sircoloniser5454]

Honestly, Antarctica is so large that the megafauna might survive to this day

[@danieru.a.i.5816]

It could happen, they may even have survived into the Pleistocene but died out when it became too cold in the Holocene.

[@theeclipsemaster]

While megafauna probably died out, any unique plants could have survived in caves

[@esme4587]

@@theeclipsemaster fitna smoke me some jurassic pot

[@damenwhelan3236]

@@theeclipsemaster Plants. In caves. Plants that need sunlight. In caves...

[@theeclipsemaster]

@@damenwhelan3236 seeds preserved in ice. In caves. Sunlight getting through ice. In caves.

[@theelephantintheroom69]

Given that 4 months of the year would be spent in darkness, there'd be a huge population of bioluminecent life which means they glow in the dark. It'd be almost like Pandora in James Cameron's Avatar.

[@comradetonk8280]

Ok good news. Penguins would still probably exist. They would be probably smaller though.

[@dagreatleaf9003]

Probably.

[@justyouraveragejoe5534]

That would be really cute

[@riversgoingnowhere1659]

TEENY TINY PENGUINS AAAAHHH

[@comradetonk8280]

@@riversgoingnowhere1659 There is a penguin species literally called "little penguin". Look it up.

[@peterwindhorst5775]

Actually larger penguins.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropornis

[@Xav-ky9js]

Animals and natives : *Exist* Colonizers : So anyways I started blasting

[@no-gracias9863]

Ahahahahhahah

[@adrianbundy3249]

Not to be "that guy", but most of the human caused extinctions around that time period had nothing to do with hunting, or blasting anything. It was the introduction of things like cats, from european ecosystems, to places they didn't belong naturally. For instance: The famous case of the cat, killing the dodo bird off, the largest bird in existence at the time, which also had the side effect of killing off the biggest flying bird at the time, the haast giant eagle. People around that time period didn't really have the concept even in their mind of the consequence of the innocent things they brought with them, that in the long term, weren't as innocent as they thought; it was ignorance to them, not malice. And short of some people like cunts like Cortez, that also - wasn't how most all of the early contact happened with natives; especially where British explorers were concerned.

[@TheSwedishHistorian]

They would probably domesticate some of the local animals, and depend on more obscure animals such as Antarctican goats, and depend on fishing. I reckon they would be a southern Greenland. Autonomous and self-ruling crown dependency of the UK most likely.

[@MrManOverThere]

Specifically on the agriculture topic, it begs the question that the “New Australia” would also set forth new agricultural staples; crops, and cattle specifically. I could entirely see marsupial cattle (ones that have adapted to the dual-season ecosystem) that fulfill the niche of cow/sheep/goat I would also assume there’d be a unique staple crop that resembles maize/amaranth but would be uniquely adapted to long seasons and winter hardiness (much like winter wheat). Love the concept videos!!

[@countesschewi2399]

Victorians in a land of eternal night and mushrooms, eh? Sounds like the closest we'd get to Fallen London.

[@chickencutlet3]

“Only has two seasons, summer and winter” Basically Colorado

[@D3FC0N96]

*laughs in texan*

[@Fuzzycat16]

But at least your sun acts normaly.

[@historic7841]

Nicholas Norman you mean red dead

[@cjmarsh9610]

no joke. spring is like a sick battle where summer keeps trying to make things grow and winter keeps killing everything every 2 weeks.

[@chickencutlet3]

CJ Marsh Fall lasted a week this year. Then it snowed October 11th

[@intergalactic92]

I mean there is a transition between summer and winter, where the days steadily get longer/shorter. So no, The poles do not only have two seasons, because those transition periods would also be seasons.

[@jacknorthey9215]

“It’s all practically Deseret except for the east coast. The good coast”. Extremely triggered upside down man noises. Perth gang master race

[@gerbill13]

wow we don't judge contenents on colour arround here.

[@windex7934]

Gerbil13 lmaoo stfu😭🤣

[@albinakemet2728]

Do you mean “continents”?

[@Pimpeaux]

I'm very offended by this video's green supremacy stance; some of my best friends are white continents!

[@curvy4655]

@@Pimpeaux But do they have charismatic marsupial megafauna & giant mushrooms? #IceIsColdButGreenIsCooler

[@mrmuricaman3825]

You spelled “color” wrong

[@krankarvolund7771]

"New Holland, which I think no one would have stick with" Well, they kept New-Zealand. Zealand is a dutch region, just like Holland ^^

[@killerkoffee4619]

Krankar Volund no one cares about new zealand enough to be bothered

[@lalalablablabla2130]

New holand= Australia

[@kukifitte7357]

@@killerkoffee4619 Maybe you don't

[@samgrimwood3483]

@@killerkoffee4619 Bad day?

[@Mitaka.Kotsuka]

New Zealand sound kind of cool actually, but New Holland...

[@AcharyaChanakya108]

In Indian mythology, there's mention of a continent far south which was called 'Vadavamukha', which in sanskrit means 'Face of a mare'. Then I saw this representation of Antarctica without its ice sheet & guess what, the land mass looks like a horsehead. Mind blown! It also said that there's a megavolcano in the centre of the continent.

[@Fg795yt]

If this was a real thing I imagine a cycle with huge plants growing during the summer due to the amour of sunlight and the fungi taking over in the winter

[@Hugabolunga]

Antartica: Green and not frozen. The Thing: Hippity hoppity this continent is now my property.

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

Oh Crap.

[@Joshua-hz3cl]

Thing?

[@AwesomeHairo]

England*

[@deloreanrc]

And we also have no place to ship the Blob to either. Welp...time to colonize another star system cuz I don't trust the Moon Spiders or whatever drives the tripods on Mars! Just avoid Tau Ceti....I rather not run into the self centered Lizards of The Race.

[@robotzombienazy]

@@Joshua-hz3cl watch the thing

[@kameradin8964]

What if teddy "you should've aimed for the head" Roosevelt was the god emperor of mankind

[@briansmith9698]

Been waiting for this video

[@Theonetrueerenyeager]

I love how you used speculative evolution in this video. Also, antarctica is technically a time capsule because it has a unique ecosystem untouched by humanity (for now).

[@mrbigtimegammer]

What if they start growing mushrooms, edible mushrooms in Antarctica and that becomes their nation's farming.

[@i.t9390]

Druglandia

[@karnickel-s33d16]

@@i.t9390 That's already the Netherlands

[@alexjv1370]

America: “Did I hear there is oil?!?” “Time to bring some freedom and democracy to Antartica!”

[@geemcspankinson]

@skem So is "Communism=no food"

[@Illusionistical822]

Antarctica isn't a perceived threat to Israel.

[@homelessswede9675]

Much funnit did the laugh

[@TBustah]

Quality Dumpster That one might not be original, but it isn’t wrong.

[@benm5913]

I used to get annoyed at jokes like this. Then I realized the US really is securing word oil supplies and people don't give a shit. Now I'm annoyed that people don't give a shit.

[@billysinge8977]

I have no idea why, but this concept is really terrifying to me. Fear of the unknown.

[@spetsnatzlegion3366]

Britain, France and Spain like a pack of seagulls: Mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine mine

[@grfrjiglstan]

"...Well, this sucks!" -Penguins

[@mattnorris7124]

Galapagos Penguins: It's free real estate

[@stafverstegen2408]

I personally think that agriculture would be possible on Antarctica, seeing that there is agriculture in the very north of Norway, where there isn't any sunlight either during the winter.

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

My favourite Alien Space Bat scenario is when the Conquistadors showed up in Apocalypto 600 years before they existed...