What If Formula 1 Cars Had ROTARY Engines?

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Jimmy Broadbent

Jimmy Broadbent

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@RobDahm
@RobDahm 3 жыл бұрын
What an epic video man! Haha saving me some of the guess work 😂😂
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 3 жыл бұрын
Dorito daddy in the house 🤟🤣
@manlymantis101
@manlymantis101 3 жыл бұрын
The madman himself. Especially relevant since you’ll be attempting this for real!
@fxr_failsafe9050
@fxr_failsafe9050 3 жыл бұрын
Ain’t no way the dorito god is watching the shed god wassup!
@therealmudafuka7200
@therealmudafuka7200 3 жыл бұрын
Six rotor when??
@Darktemplar1305
@Darktemplar1305 3 жыл бұрын
Rotary Dude meets Shed Dude => when will the Rotary Racing Shed be a thing xD
@dipoolubi8159
@dipoolubi8159 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the 2 trophies in the background just feels really good
@himanshu9418
@himanshu9418 3 жыл бұрын
Conventional cars : we run on petrol, oil is just a maintenance thing Rotary cars : We run on oil, petrol is just a maintenance thing
@drewgalbraith4499
@drewgalbraith4499 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the semi Diesel Dorito life
@sw96
@sw96 3 жыл бұрын
Do you want a car that sounds like a 2 stroke, smells/smokes like a 2 stroke and uses oil like a 2 stroke BUT is actually a 4 stroke engine? Then buy a Rotary today!
@jamaicangamer4189
@jamaicangamer4189 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jamaicangamer4189
@jamaicangamer4189 3 жыл бұрын
@@sw96 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Koopzilla24
@Koopzilla24 3 жыл бұрын
@@sw96 More of a 1 spin than a 4 stroke since there isn't any stroking happening
@vrfrys
@vrfrys 3 жыл бұрын
Since Dahm got the indycar, I'd like to imagine this is what it's going to be like
@isaks3243
@isaks3243 3 жыл бұрын
he is going to put a cossworth piston engine in it because the engine is part of the chassis
@alessiocarlevaro6934
@alessiocarlevaro6934 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaks3243 i think that's just the first step, i hope he ends up putting a naturally aspirated 4 rotor in it
@MemorableC
@MemorableC 3 жыл бұрын
@@isaks3243 it's just to start with so he can learn about the car because it's a bolt in
@felixbb1445
@felixbb1445 3 жыл бұрын
@@MemorableC i just hopes he drives the damn thing
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 3 жыл бұрын
I would like your comment but you know.. 69 likes 🤷 that indy car is going to be crazy when he eventually builds it
@TimFilmsCars
@TimFilmsCars 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well, marshal. May your hoverflags rise as mysteriously as you do.
@tofu6996
@tofu6996 3 жыл бұрын
bro i'm tweakin af rn and i got so confused why you said my name bruh
@AyOoDaLoBo33
@AyOoDaLoBo33 3 жыл бұрын
@@tofu6996 Are you the Hover Marshal?
@tofu6996
@tofu6996 3 жыл бұрын
@@AyOoDaLoBo33 i mean i AM high
@zerocompacter5746
@zerocompacter5746 3 жыл бұрын
@@tofu6996 that's not really something to post online...
@zerocompacter5746
@zerocompacter5746 3 жыл бұрын
@@tofu6996 I'd really be careful saying that online friend.
@Denes2005
@Denes2005 3 жыл бұрын
3:45 that thing was hyper-reliable, mazda said after le mans they could probabily just change the oil then do another 24 hours
@NapiLP
@NapiLP 3 жыл бұрын
of course they said that. they wanted to sell rotary powered cars. most likely a giant lie
@griffinfaulkner3514
@griffinfaulkner3514 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapiLP Do me a favor and look into the history of RX-8 ALMS/IMSA cars with 3-rotors. Rotaries are only unreliable when they don't have proper oiling and premix, and literally require you to occasionally kick the shit out of them by taking them to redline. Just look at the incredible beating the Angel Motorsports REPU has taken without any damage to the core engine.
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapiLP rotary engines are reliable if you know how to run one properly
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 3 жыл бұрын
@@griffinfaulkner3514 the repu is a beast, just takes abuse and comes back wanting more
@apexgt4
@apexgt4 3 жыл бұрын
They had the engine tuned down several thousand rpm also to help reliability. They said that the car could have much more power if they ran it full power.
@thejusmar
@thejusmar 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmer training his German skills for the VW F1 team obviously
@Corvin152
@Corvin152 3 жыл бұрын
He's like the frontrunner for that seat by eleventy million miles. I mean who is that Louis Hamlerton or Carl Leclair If we have JIMMERRRR
@thejusmar
@thejusmar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Corvin152 Back-to-Back Britcar winner James Branglebronk is making moves
@CarmenFiala
@CarmenFiala 3 жыл бұрын
nah Jimmy, i'm with you. F1 was way more interesting when everyone had their own engines to worry about and could kinda do their own thing
@cameronfarris7171
@cameronfarris7171 3 жыл бұрын
back in the day yes that was great but also in modern day f1 with how much money matters having a reasonably strict set of rules is probably the best way to go sadly
@jesserowlingsify
@jesserowlingsify 3 жыл бұрын
@@cameronfarris7171 i mean, put a strict cap on and say they can do whatever they want provided it's a hybrid. more relevant to the road, still fair.
@rainiersauer4288
@rainiersauer4288 3 жыл бұрын
and this is how we ended up with afterburning jet engines running 4500kw being used to drive a combination of electric motors, turbulence generators to flame out the engines behind us., and fan-car downforce. Our push to pass injects HF for that extra oomph.
@THESLlCK
@THESLlCK 3 жыл бұрын
@@rainiersauer4288 I don’t see a problem
@rainiersauer4288
@rainiersauer4288 3 жыл бұрын
@@THESLlCK Me neither, can't wait to enslave sentient AI into it
@jonathantaylor2584
@jonathantaylor2584 3 жыл бұрын
I know of an Indy car that will eventually have a rotary. Can't wait to see Rob Dahm rotary swap the world
@_gaszy_8925
@_gaszy_8925 3 жыл бұрын
he's putting the cosworth in it
@jonathantaylor2584
@jonathantaylor2584 3 жыл бұрын
@@_gaszy_8925 He's putting the cosworth in it to learn about the technology but he's stated that the long term plan will be to swap a rotary in
@SPIRIT_BOXX
@SPIRIT_BOXX 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathantaylor2584 isn’t he planning on putting a 6 rotor in? Or was that for the Diablo🤔
@jonathantaylor2584
@jonathantaylor2584 3 жыл бұрын
@@SPIRIT_BOXX I think he's going to keep the engine the same length as the cosworth to preserve the Indy car's length and bodywork. I think that would make it a 2 or 3 rotor
@BigIdds
@BigIdds 3 жыл бұрын
6 rotor will be going in the Indy car, he's just got the cosworth engine to learn it all :) i think the Diablo is staying as it is. Though they have been working on the Vette recently
@sasha-taylor
@sasha-taylor 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a stock Miata 1.6 or some super low horsepower engine in an F1 car, full on momentum car with massive downforce. compare it to the normal car and see how much an ultra light weight high downforce chassis could improve the lap times
@davonmulder8458
@davonmulder8458 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this must happen
@gruggerduggerhoose
@gruggerduggerhoose 3 жыл бұрын
Idea! Mx5 engine into the F1 car and F1 engine into Mx5 and see who dies first lmao
@Giljrg
@Giljrg 3 жыл бұрын
It would be too slow to get downforce 😂 prove me wrong
@sasha-taylor
@sasha-taylor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Giljrg but once you get there (assuming you could) you might not need to hit the brakes for the whole track haha
@joeysgarage7963
@joeysgarage7963 3 жыл бұрын
That would be so cool!!
@EpsilonUnitGaming
@EpsilonUnitGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that the Britcar race winner is making KZbin vids for us!
@mbszd6832
@mbszd6832 3 жыл бұрын
Britcar double race winner*
@gamethogic3751
@gamethogic3751 2 жыл бұрын
youtuber that won brit car *
@jazzy_jake
@jazzy_jake 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this game is definitely RFactor, definitely not Assetto Corsa Well done Youlube
@17Uhr23
@17Uhr23 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, given that this track was converted from rF1 (or maybe even F1C)... :P
@DanLMH
@DanLMH 3 жыл бұрын
tbf the uploader (jimmy or his editor) have to set that
@Danofcanada
@Danofcanada 3 жыл бұрын
And the praga rookie of the year award
@jordandonald5734
@jordandonald5734 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanLMH Nah it's automatic
@rul3s1232
@rul3s1232 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordandonald5734 you can either select or it detects auto as far as i know
@petergriffin2513
@petergriffin2513 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see F1 try a 5-cylinder engine before they just go right to a 4 banger. The 5’s sound really good…not quite as good as a V10, but, they still sound very good!
@StarkRaven59
@StarkRaven59 3 жыл бұрын
MotoGP used to have V5s, and they were right screamers.
@emmanouilk9991
@emmanouilk9991 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarkRaven59 mate you two cant seem to understand that the V6's can be screamers at 15K rpm, but the turbos and hybrid systems reduce the sound, and the teams never use that 15K rpm rev limiter as the power of the engine is between 11-13K RPM depending on the manufacturer. a V5/I5 with the same RPM would sound just as "rumbly" and low-pitch as these current engines. they just need more RPM and less MGU-H and turbos.
@user-wy5uq7oq8q
@user-wy5uq7oq8q 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmanouilk9991 fuel flow limit is the cap if they had higher or unlimited fuel flow they could rev the engines to 15k+ and make peak power at redline
@weedfreer
@weedfreer 3 жыл бұрын
@@emmanouilk9991 the FIA mandate that the engines rev no more than 15k RPM. I believe that this RPM cap is also due to be reduced in the comig season too. The current engines can, likely, quite easily, rev to 18k RPM or more if they were to remove the limitations put in place by the FIA. In fact, Danny Ric's old Renault accidentally rev'd beyond the 15k limit for a fraction of a second in his final season with them a few years back for which he received a reprimand and grid penalty following one of his best qualifying achievements with the team. Simply put, it is not the case that these engines are running out of revs, moreover, it's that they are artificially limited to that level of RPM by 'the man'
@katrinapaton5283
@katrinapaton5283 2 жыл бұрын
@John Smith Yep, a claimed 1500hp @11000 rpm from a 1.5lt inline 4. Not too shabby.
@paceryeung4529
@paceryeung4529 3 жыл бұрын
Dom Toretto: “It doesn’t matter what’s under the hood. The only thing that matters is who’s behind the wheel” Jimmy: “Where as the rotary engine produces 500 Newton meters of torque.”
@Gu1tarZer0
@Gu1tarZer0 3 жыл бұрын
"there's a reason it hasn't happened yet" Formula Mazda was pretty quick, the response and rev range are crazy although they make less than 300hp
@chrishuyler3580
@chrishuyler3580 2 жыл бұрын
Came here for this, would have been interesting if they made a higher hp Formula Mazda program with the 13b turbo.
@spokez.1729
@spokez.1729 3 жыл бұрын
The German part at the beginning was pretty damn Good ma Britcar-Winner boi haha
@buksedyrert
@buksedyrert 3 жыл бұрын
Theese intros get better everytime
@joerith00
@joerith00 3 жыл бұрын
Last 5 seconds were pure gold
@Fred_the_1996
@Fred_the_1996 3 жыл бұрын
ROCK
@Fred_the_1996
@Fred_the_1996 3 жыл бұрын
ROCK
@tomlapisto2840
@tomlapisto2840 3 жыл бұрын
ROCK. OH
@TheFelix1703
@TheFelix1703 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, a german Jimmy.
@mcfireballs3491
@mcfireballs3491 3 жыл бұрын
Heinrich Jimler
@RealThore
@RealThore 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcfireballs3491 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@ShadowRaptor42
@ShadowRaptor42 3 жыл бұрын
E
@TheFelix1703
@TheFelix1703 3 жыл бұрын
@@mcfireballs3491 Jesus.
@DogeRAM-no8pj
@DogeRAM-no8pj 3 жыл бұрын
Legend says the 26🅱️ from the 787🅱️ could pump out 900Hp, but was down tuned to only 700hp in order to last 24H. Soooooo I imagine that in a 2h race you should be able to have it at PEAK power, so the legendary 787🅱️ should be able to beat those pesky v12 F1 cars... I think you should try it
@MC-dv9bn
@MC-dv9bn 3 жыл бұрын
If they had rotary engines, bottas would be on engine 15 by now
@worldofthemusic8074
@worldofthemusic8074 3 жыл бұрын
Not if you ask Rob dahm 😂
@samiraperi467
@samiraperi467 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, NA rotaries live just fine, especially in race cars. Rotaries *need* revs and most daily driving lacks that. Hell, Mazda 787 won because it was reliable, not because it was fast.
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim 3 жыл бұрын
@@samiraperi467 wasn’t that the year when the engine regs changed and the company’s weren’t prepared so they had to have loads of ballast then Mazda didn’t have too
@EddoWagt
@EddoWagt 3 жыл бұрын
@@TinyBearTim I'm not sure, but Mazda didn't win by speed anyways. They won because the rest broke down, while the rotary was still in pretty much perfect condition
@DDBmaster
@DDBmaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@EddoWagt 787 was underpowered in that 24h race. Reved less, made 300hp less than normal
@stephenc6955
@stephenc6955 3 жыл бұрын
In a F1 car, the engine is a load bearing member. The rotary housing has to be stiff. Any combustion chamber distortion would mean the engine self-machine itself to death.
@no_name2882
@no_name2882 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmer. The 787b’s engine made it the whole 24 hours of Le man without any damage. It was also in Incredible condition after the race. It was more reliable than the other engines in the race. At least that’s what I’ve heard. Correct me if I’m wrong. 😂
@gabehowe2778
@gabehowe2778 3 жыл бұрын
No, you’re right. Unfortunately that didn’t always transfer to their road cars (coughs in RX-8, fuck you Ford)
@Fred_the_1996
@Fred_the_1996 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabehowe2778 don't forget that rotary engine unreliability is caused by mileage and time, not stress.
@Fred_the_1996
@Fred_the_1996 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabehowe2778 don't forget that rotary engine unreliability is caused by mileage and time, not stress.
@Primal____
@Primal____ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fred_the_1996 and strict emissions requirements
@ThePobreGamer
@ThePobreGamer 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, when it comes to racing, the rotary is more reliable than most piston engines, but when you have to daily drive it, its bad due to the shitty oiling solution mazda came up with
@GoofyChristoffer
@GoofyChristoffer 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the era of Le Mans/WEC when Audi was doing the Diesel/Flywheel, Porsche was the 4 cylinder/li-ion and Toyota was rocking the NA V8+hybrid (don't remember the specific type). It was so interesting!
@katrinapaton5283
@katrinapaton5283 2 жыл бұрын
And Nissan were playing (only playing unfortunately) with a V6/Flywheel mid engined Front wheel drive with 4WD capability. Fun times.
@Lord_Verminaard
@Lord_Verminaard 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed it, Jimmy and I totally agree. I love any kind of racing where manufacturers can have their own engines and you truly have a "mixed" field of cars.
@TheRealSonicBeats
@TheRealSonicBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Wow it's cool to see this pro driver trying out some sim racing!
@AOFforthewin
@AOFforthewin 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well, Marshall. 🙏
@boxy2k8
@boxy2k8 3 жыл бұрын
Tell you what would be cool in a similar way: An 80's F1 like a 98t with the engine from the Porsche 917 turbopanzer. ALL THE BOOST
@wapitivierrides2295
@wapitivierrides2295 3 жыл бұрын
Im German and i was so confused with the Beginning of the Video. 🤣 Good Effort Jimmer, clearly a native Speaker.
@Hammerhead547
@Hammerhead547 3 жыл бұрын
How about doing a "what if" on: what if F1 cars had the huge supercharged big block V8 engines that monster trucks used back in the 80's. The 604 ci ford racing marine V8 in the original Bigfoot monster truck made 1000 bhp running on regular gas, with nos and running on alcohol it could easily make 1600 bhp.
@deaks25
@deaks25 3 жыл бұрын
There is a (Sort of production) motorbike called the MTT Y2k that used a Rolls Royce turbine jet engine that drove a 2 speed gearbox.... hint, hint, nudge, nudge... That season when Minardi/Torro Rosso were allowed to use the detuned V10 because the team couldn't afford the new V8 engines, and there were tracks where the V10's torque was a devastating advantage and others where that missing power hurt it massively is one of my favourite little periods because it was so genuinely interesting, so yes, I am 100% with you Jimmy; different engine formula's do make for interesting racing.
@Hinjima92
@Hinjima92 3 жыл бұрын
They are actually talking about bringing in 2 stroke engines to F1 after 2025! That would be absolutely insane.
@Deadsphere
@Deadsphere 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda makes a return with 4-rotors
@felix-bk7ne
@felix-bk7ne 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically it only takes the average F1 fan 2 strokes to get the job done
@martinfisker7438
@martinfisker7438 3 жыл бұрын
I don't care if they go 2 stroke or Wankel - I would have to watch it either way
@agentv1240
@agentv1240 3 жыл бұрын
@@felix-bk7ne LMAO
@9wowable
@9wowable 3 жыл бұрын
Pat Symonds moment
@ConfusedRaccoon
@ConfusedRaccoon 3 жыл бұрын
This track triggered some memory of the first F1 game I ever played, back in the 90's. It was a demo so only four cars on track at a time and I think it was this Suzuka track. That long left into a long downhill feel so familiar. Because I was a wee child, I tried to play it with the crappy joy stick that came included with the PC. And I got super happy the first time I finished a lap and kept up with one of the other cars.
@Mabix_Racing
@Mabix_Racing 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the german Jimmy :D Greets from german simracing mate :)
@The_Hidden_Shadow
@The_Hidden_Shadow 3 жыл бұрын
There's one thing I know for sure, You've go to fly for your life. -Artis: Gunship, -Album: Gunship, -Track: Fly For Your Life. [Song in first cutseen before into, and they use from 30s in for 10s. Very nice!]
@cutlass8783
@cutlass8783 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy: the spicy triangles Me: the spicy doritos
@allainangcao28
@allainangcao28 3 жыл бұрын
Suzuka 88’ is a bumpy configuration so the parts where you tend to slide off is the car bottoming out and the grip snapping all over the place which is also why the 2022 car was going around better since it has the rake but with 1990 it was flat bottomed and set as low as possible.
@hydrasin
@hydrasin 3 жыл бұрын
Next: What if F1 had 2 strokes ?
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Put a Trabant engine in there
@nothinghere7391
@nothinghere7391 3 жыл бұрын
WITH TONS OF TURBO LAG
@hydrasin
@hydrasin 3 жыл бұрын
@@nothinghere7391 you can't put a turbo on a two stroke I think
@proarmy70
@proarmy70 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydrasin yes you can, there are some snowmobiles with turbos, It's possible but not easy
@hydrasin
@hydrasin 3 жыл бұрын
@@proarmy70 oh ok I didn't knew that
@TwistedTriggerEnduro
@TwistedTriggerEnduro 3 жыл бұрын
I use to own an RX7. Miss the turbo and magical high RPM pull. Thanks for the video, thanks for the memory. 💪🔥
@flashpeter625
@flashpeter625 3 жыл бұрын
Please put the supercharged V16 from 1937 Auto Union Type C in various F1 cars. It has something like 520hp and 870Nm, revs just about 5000rpm. Should be interesting to put it in a lighter vehicle. Candidates: Lotus 49, anything from late 80's or very early 90's
@kerimca98
@kerimca98 2 жыл бұрын
Torque doesn't say much though except how strongly it wears the gearbox
@flashpeter625
@flashpeter625 2 жыл бұрын
@@kerimca98 Torque, especially paired with its distribution in the rev range, says a lot about the character of the engine. If I say that an engine has 500 hp and 870 Nm, you immediately know that it is a very different engine than one with 500 hp and 400 Nm, and you also know that you will have to drive the car completely differently.
@BryceWomeldurf
@BryceWomeldurf 3 жыл бұрын
One would think it hadn't happened because of reliability, but I've heard Tommy Kendall (who used to race in an early RX-7) say that one of the things he was really impressed by with the rotary was its reliability. If I remember right, everyone in the room laughed and then he was like "no, seriously" and explained that in race scenarios it actually held together pretty well.
@tt533_8
@tt533_8 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, I just wanted to say how much you’ve inspired me to keep going with sim racing. I started watching you when I was racing on a £50 set of wheel and pedals. I wasn’t enjoying sim racing on a less prestigious wheel. Over 3 years later, I have upgraded my sim setup with a 8020 rig, DD wheel, and LC pedals. I am now really enjoying sim racing more than ever. You are the origins of my sim racing hobbies and I guess you are responsible for my £3000+ sim setup. 🤣
@franskamstra2728
@franskamstra2728 3 жыл бұрын
for F1 i am walking around with an ideas for years now. 1000hp/1000nm and green fuel. how you do it is your own choice, FIA will only do dyno tests to keep power in check. all manufacterers can use their own concepts they use on their road cars so when they make advancemenst in F1 they can do the same on the road cars. do you want to be faster in the race? improve fuel effeciency. plus morde manufacturers and types so we will know what car is coming because of the sound.
@kraftwels
@kraftwels 3 жыл бұрын
correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't rotaries absolute tanks if there in a racecar? i think it's temperature changes that road cars go through that ruin them
@thatangrygerman2076
@thatangrygerman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Fuel consumption is probably why no one races rotaries anymore nowadays
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 3 жыл бұрын
Rotaries die because their apex seals wear out, which probably wont happen in a few hundred miles even at redline.
@Power5
@Power5 2 жыл бұрын
24hr of LeMans is not a few hundred miles. And a 787B won that.
@riflelover21
@riflelover21 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well Marshall, you are doing a great job not touching anything and just observing
@davonmulder8458
@davonmulder8458 3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these meme edits. "What do you mean naahhh."
@mmatthews61687
@mmatthews61687 3 жыл бұрын
3:22 Love that the AGIP sponsor decal says "AGILE" LOL
@rocketplane
@rocketplane 3 жыл бұрын
You know what engine is next. You know it in your heart. That is. The turbine. I love Mazda Rotaries, I am likewise sad that it never made it to F1.
@ManWithBeard1990
@ManWithBeard1990 3 жыл бұрын
There was a turbine-powered lotus once. IIRC it had 4wd too. Not sure if it was in F1 but I think it was.
@shrapnut7612
@shrapnut7612 2 жыл бұрын
My fav. car to drive is (due to slow PC,)" GT Legends. I like the rotaray RX 7'S they way they rev is great. Also the power is so smooth. and the sound. I grew up on GPL. Great vid. again, thanks.
@BRESE22
@BRESE22 3 жыл бұрын
Think Jimmy needs to do a f1 turbo hybrid v6 powerd nascar and nascar v8 powered f1 car
@suttscraig
@suttscraig 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a regs where rotaries V’s and straight configurations were allowed to spice things up
@DDBmaster
@DDBmaster 3 жыл бұрын
3:45 unreliable? F1 engines failed in an hour race, while 787B engine came out of 24 hours endurance race in pristine condition. What the hell Jimmer?
@semiedgv
@semiedgv 3 жыл бұрын
That 787B was vastly underpowered. Mazda's goal was never to win Le Mans, and it was quite literally on the same performance levels as Group C2 cars. The 787B was just a marketing tool. And when all the top dogs such as Mercedes, Jaguars, and Porsche began to broke down the Mazda still went on. And you can guarantee they told the drivers to drive as cautiously as possible when they realized they could win. The best Le Mans engine is probably the Flat 6 turbos of the 956 and 962 since they could produce a ton of power whilst being reliable. So I doubt a 1000 horsepower probably 10k+ rpm rotary engine would survive very long.
@KitKitChanIsaac
@KitKitChanIsaac 3 жыл бұрын
it was a joke ok
@chcustoms2369
@chcustoms2369 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up down the road fro rob dahm, we had the same high school education, it’s no wonder I’ve gone the direction I did… our high school was epic when it came to trades and fabrication
@jpccpcavs
@jpccpcavs 3 жыл бұрын
Привет, Джимми, если твой канал на самых разных языках, то привет из России🤙
@Vadjong
@Vadjong 3 жыл бұрын
Wat ik zeggen wou...
@MootingInsanity
@MootingInsanity 3 жыл бұрын
Привет из США
@jpccpcavs
@jpccpcavs 3 жыл бұрын
@@MootingInsanity 🤙🤝
@daviddavies3637
@daviddavies3637 3 жыл бұрын
Remember wanting a Mazda RX-8 for a long time. Problem is that they're the biggest fuel guzzlers on the planet for a car with such a small engine. Was slightly pissed off to go past one of the houses I grew up in a few years ago to find an RX-8 parked on the drive.
@_AaronT
@_AaronT 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well, marshall. 🙏🏻 (Also F1 + rotary = a happy me)
@Hatake_Kakashi13_
@Hatake_Kakashi13_ 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty fun to see this engine in action. Rotary engines are a concept with many flaws, but there is also liquid piston rotary engine which may be actually useful. Can't wait to see it being used irl
@adamstilldrives
@adamstilldrives 3 жыл бұрын
Dorito baby
@gilesjackson8085
@gilesjackson8085 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video from Jimmer. The main reason Formula One cars don’t have Rotary engines is their absurdly heavy fuel consumption. You can add to that their pollution from burnt oil. Racing rotary motorcycles like the Norton used to trail a blue haze behind them, worse even than the average two stroke. Back in the day, the patents surrounding the Wankel engine were pretty all-inclusive and it took a hefty fee to buy membership in the club. This benefitted no one but the Wankel family. I’m amazed Mazda persevered as long as they did. Lot of power for the weight though.
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 3 жыл бұрын
13:25 That's all of motorsport! The same reason F1 isn't as much fun to watch as it used to be is the same reason a series like NASCAR is garbage. We don't see the same trials and tribulations and just plain wild happenings because of these changing regulatory ideologies. I would have loved NASCAR in the 1950s, watching the manufacturers wage their technological war: slant vs. pent. vs. hemi. designs, experimenting with aero (Superbird/Daytona needs a bigger wang) and the like. Or in the '60s, watching -Chevy's- Chaparral's skunkworks build the most outrageous racing machines the world has ever seen. Or- my god- the '80s, watching the birth of the Group B monsters, watching the first AWD Skylines' utter domination of the JTCC and damned-near every other series they entered. They must have been heady days... Post Script: Hover well, marshal.
@CarguyRS
@CarguyRS 3 жыл бұрын
For the polar opposite, an F1 car with a nascar V8 would be hilarious to see
@willemzuidersma4357
@willemzuidersma4357 3 жыл бұрын
We have not had straight 5 turbo engines in F1 cars. Make it happen Please!!!
@h4mmersbald
@h4mmersbald 3 жыл бұрын
10:06 I love it!
@tntfreddan3138
@tntfreddan3138 3 жыл бұрын
FIA be like: "All cars need to be rotaries" Mazda: "Our phone bill is gonna be expensive this month..."
@KitKitChanIsaac
@KitKitChanIsaac 3 жыл бұрын
nah maFIA wont let rotaries happen
@miguelsanchez6465
@miguelsanchez6465 3 жыл бұрын
the cinematiic cam was nice cool video jimmy!!
@samhill88
@samhill88 3 жыл бұрын
Brap
@no_name2882
@no_name2882 3 жыл бұрын
U beat me…
@pedroteixeira7405
@pedroteixeira7405 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jimmy, I would really like if you did a video about the Maserati mc12 gt1 I think it's a car that everyone forgot about, despite the achievements they had
@Adarisa
@Adarisa 3 жыл бұрын
5:57 I mean, who would have expected 130R to actually be a corner with a constant radius of 130m? Madness.
@halofreak1990
@halofreak1990 2 жыл бұрын
You mean, 130 degrees?
@SelfReflexivity
@SelfReflexivity 2 жыл бұрын
The Hover Marshall gives his blessing. Big send, Jimmy!
@TexRobNC
@TexRobNC 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Rob will pop in and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the "rotaries don't have torque" thing comes from the fact that most people are familiar with the 2 rotors from Mazda, but the 3 and 4 rotors seem to produce a ton of torque. Also, the displacement on those V12s was crazy small, so they were always known for very low torque as well.
@_gaszy_8925
@_gaszy_8925 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's also because when most people thing torque they think lower rpm, where as rotaries are only top end torque
@griffinfaulkner3514
@griffinfaulkner3514 3 жыл бұрын
NA rotaries really don't produce that much torque. Turbo rotaries, on the other hand, can build massive amounts of boost very low in the rev range, and as such can produce so much torque that it threatens to damage the eccentric shaft.
@Sf_Mason
@Sf_Mason 3 жыл бұрын
That engine with a few more RPM for more power, this would be a epic engine setup.
@woolfyX3
@woolfyX3 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Sweden and I never knew you were Deutch I could understand the text in the beginning epic!
@LR_84
@LR_84 3 жыл бұрын
More the reason to get excited for the Hypercar series!!
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 жыл бұрын
And the thing with that 4 rotor was that it was a 24H endurance racing motor.
@slow330xi3
@slow330xi3 3 жыл бұрын
This should definitely be a series’s
@LilScrewmatic
@LilScrewmatic 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well, marshal. may you be blessed with good luck for eternity.
@Kris_T_
@Kris_T_ 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmer I wanna see you drive a double decker, in reality. Contact your local HGV driving school, or a big bus company like Arriva, a school will do it for about £250, Arriva might just do it for the PR.
@Kris_T_
@Kris_T_ 3 жыл бұрын
Plus... Arriva buses are Minty, their driving school buses are usually white but I'm sure they'd put L plates on a Minty Double decker.
@pedrocaseiro95
@pedrocaseiro95 3 жыл бұрын
There's a Kenworth diesel truck mod for AC. It would be interesting to see how it turns out in an F1 car. Another cool swap would also be a 900hp 2JZ or RB26 in an F1
@JoshTT2
@JoshTT2 3 жыл бұрын
Certified "GP2 engine, GP2... Arghhhh" moment down the straight.
@nekozabuza
@nekozabuza 3 жыл бұрын
So I actually tried this a while ago. I dropped a 26b in a 1991 Jordan F1 car. I upped the power to around 1k I think, and the rev limit to around 12.5K. I ended up having to make my own tires in order to handle the power because the tires would spin in every gear. Edit: I looked it up before I made my engine swap and the 26b is actually heavier. It's actually6 double the weight at 400kg vs 200 for the V12.
@ManWithBeard1990
@ManWithBeard1990 3 жыл бұрын
The rotary engine would be more compact but probably quite a bit heavier: As far as I know, all rotary engines produced by Mazda themselves use cast iron side housings. Aluminium ones do exist but they're not made by Mazda.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 3 жыл бұрын
There's no reason you couldnt make the housing out of whatever. The problem is the apex seals.
@ManWithBeard1990
@ManWithBeard1990 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 That's true. And yes the apex seals do eventually wear out, and occasionally they break prematurely too. Apparently though, the root cause of that isn't the seals themselves. If you check Rob Dahm's channel, he has a video on how and why rotary engines break, and how to make them last.
@testkanal2mille
@testkanal2mille 3 жыл бұрын
There was a Mazda RX7 Group B car, but with a fairly modest 300bhp
@N3gativeChill
@N3gativeChill 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve gotta check out Mazzei Formula if you haven’t already, that guy has a crazy air shifted 4 rotor if i remember right
@PinotNoir_
@PinotNoir_ 2 ай бұрын
F1 should allow multiple engine config as long as there's a displacement, power, and weight limit. they can keep the mandatory turbo hybrid stuff to please those save the environtment people, but just let manufacturer to compete with different kind of engine :D
@verrirt3211
@verrirt3211 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing those 2 trophies at the back thinking how far jimmy has gone. Our shedboi is a pro race winner!
@Mercman1010
@Mercman1010 3 жыл бұрын
That 787B engine could make over 1k HP. All they did was increase the Rev limit. It was limited to 9k for the race for durability reasons. It was dynoed at 10.5k rpm during testing
@froggothedoggo5997
@froggothedoggo5997 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the Donnington win! great video as always!
@littlestan6625
@littlestan6625 3 жыл бұрын
Hover well, Marshall 🙏🙏
@jedcooper4205
@jedcooper4205 3 жыл бұрын
i’m enjoying beardless jimmy hope he sticks around
@samacw
@samacw 3 жыл бұрын
15:14 is a great post credits surprise
@StevenQ74
@StevenQ74 3 жыл бұрын
There was also the Coloni-Subaru with the 12 cilinder boxer engine
@TheWildSlayer
@TheWildSlayer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow it sounds like Red Bulls' RB6 and it's amazing
@P.L.J.V.
@P.L.J.V. 3 жыл бұрын
I think about an old Fiat 500 with a Rotary,can be brilliant! :D
@scotthecarnerd1995
@scotthecarnerd1995 3 жыл бұрын
Always makes you wonder when these questions start rolling around 🤔 Great video as always man ❤️👍
@derpherbert3199
@derpherbert3199 3 жыл бұрын
Hover-Marshall and Drincc-Well Oilman have movienights each thursday.
@GokuTheHusky
@GokuTheHusky 3 жыл бұрын
Now that would be the true challenge to see who builds the best rotary in F1
@Stuntman175
@Stuntman175 2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly, Mazda engineers tore the engine apart from the 787B after its win in 1991 and after inspection, they discovered that the engine could be put back together as is and run another 24h without fear of failure. Rotaries hate low revs, lugging and running cold, what they need is to be run like a race engine.
@superphonixlp4152
@superphonixlp4152 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t watch the video (don’t cry I will) but just imagining that sound omg It would be so incredible.... 20 to the limit developed rotarys omg 😍
@jamescampbell1070
@jamescampbell1070 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, we even had a boxer engined F1 car, the disastrous Subaru powered Coloni from 1990
@Xiploc3991
@Xiploc3991 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the win last weekend jimmer!
@alexwright6038
@alexwright6038 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason there have been no rotary engines in F1 is the engine specifications have been too restrictive. I was told it is a bit too difficult to calculate the displacement so it easier to stipulate reciprocating engines. It is a same because if the amount of work that had been poured into reciprocating engines had been out into rotary they would be better.
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