What If Goku & Gohan TRAINED FIRST?

[@JaxBlade]

ALRIGHTY Guys, The OG is back today and hes here to tell you about how Cell would be folded like a lawn chair even worse

[@QaamansLand]

LOL at this point we are both OG's bro

[@DenniDownBad]

@@QaamansLand I agree with both you and Jax's statements

[@insanemakaioshin]

@@QaamansLand What if Goku, Piccolo & Gohan trained on Yardrat to face the Androids? Chi-Chi goes along to make sure Gohan studies & those 2 stumbles upon Ki based medicine, which is something Gohan created on Earth in DB Online.

[@tayveondavis2962]

@@QaamansLand what if gohan and goten was twin at the start of dbz

[@mostcreativename1]

1. Love the use of dokkan's assets all over the video. Always nice to see 2. Love the Ultimate Battle 22 music, that's my childhood right there 3. Love that you included GT in the discussion Thanks for the vid Qaaman

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

To me goku and gohan would be the exact same power level as they were originally and would probably kill cell instead of letting him run and the cell saga ends with the androids fate undecided and goku lives.Also first

[@QaamansLand]

Curious to see your comment after watching. Thanks for the support.

[@tayveondavis2962]

@@QaamansLand what if gohan and trunks went in the time chamber

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

Piccolo and tien would've died to semi perfect cell

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

@@구독자500명되면이같은 your probably right since vegeta and trunks wouldn’t be able to get there in time.they could always just revive them anyways.

[@구독자500명되면이같은]

@@extremelegendsupreme4596 :( they were already revived before unfortunately

[@kelandraplays7374]

I have been following your channel for nearly ten years, dating back to your Yugioh stuff as well as Dragon Ball :D Great to see you continuing to put out great content!

[@cuiveirwin]

Great video as always. I love how you also look into Dragon Ball GT in your what-ifs (which not many creators do for some reason).

[@ziongamer6905]

Most take the “non canon so I won’t discuss it” route sadly

[@richborn6700]

I prefer them going over GT than 50 different takes of how Super would go. But I hate Super so that's probably a me thing

[@cuiveirwin]

@@richborn6700 I feel the same way bro

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

Btw really glad your back you a legend

[@Wuking93]

That thought of Roshi sealing Freiza with the Mafuba is fucking hilarious 😂

[@dtay8913]

So glad you're still posting. A massive void in my heart formed when Laughing stock media announced his departure from KZbin. I'm hoping and praying you don't leave any time soon.

[@MirBlackwell]

I was just telling my homies THIS MORNING that goku should've went in first. Also ya voice sounds deeper than b4 lol Welcome back King 👑👑

[@jimistergaming873]

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[@Eric-gp3hi]

Nice it’s good to see you back Qaaman. I hope to see more what ifs and Dragonball discussions in the future such as explaining relationships in Dragonball like the one you did for Gohan and Krillin.

[@AwijoshSun]

Beerus still would've had the vision/dream about the Super Saiyan God, right? If he does, then they would still ask Shenlong about it, and Goku would still achieve the transformation via ritual. Whis and Beerus would still train Goku/Vegeta because of this observed potential, and Resurrection F goes nearly the same as it did in canon.

[@LastGREATEST0]

Agreed Beerus would also step in too I presume

[@greenightponydragon5127]

Still Goku still would’ve been weaker since his base form much weaker without after life training so either way Goku would’ve lost to Frieza

[@DemonSaine]

@@greenightponydragon5127 While that's true that Goku would likely lose to Frieza, Beerus wouldn't let him destroy the Earth and probably would've destroyed him for trying to. Its another way everyone could survive without Goku having to steal the win all the time

[@ILrukiamaxim55]

@@DemonSaine you then have to consider that the only reason why Frieza nearly won was because Goku and Vegeta were THAT powerful where they could go 1v1 and still win despite frieza being slightly stronger but had imperfect golden form which means that even if Frieza came to earth then Goku and Vegeta could just jump his ass together and outlast him which would lead to same ending -earth blowing up and Whis reversing time.

[@PAP888]

goku didn’t beat frieza in RF he got shot 😭. vegeta would’ve beat him tho knowing frieza is stronger. i think vegeta would realize how much stronger frieza is and would try to kill him instantly this time or it will be literally the same with whis rewinding time and goku stealing the win. and yea i agree beerus and whis would still train goku and vegeta because they are the strongest mortals in the universe and i don’t think a goku that didn’t spend 7yrs dead would be that much weaker.

[@C_long]

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[@TerryB01]

Welcome back Qaaman!

[@tobygarton9494]

Hoping for the Great Qaaman return u promised us. I get so hyped when u upload.

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A new top quality Qaaman video as usual this is an amazing surprise keep up the amazing content and hope your doing well been here since your first few videos.

[@Joukuya]

Ahh qaaman, I’ve been watching u since 5th grade , I’m graduating high school this year . I just wanted to say Thanks for keeping me entertained wit your interesting db videos over the years.

[@philosopher9672]

If Goku never died, he would have trained w Gohan for sure. Ik u mentioned, shortly before Gokus death, Chichi accepted that Gohan needed to be trained plus we see w Goten that she even trained him herself.

[@LRBowas]

With how strong A17 has become in super, could it be possible that he could take on ROF Frieza alongside a potentially just as strong 16? (Though that honestly just comes the question of why he wasn't in the RoF or BoG arcs in the first place tho...)

[@reptilian_geneticist]

The first appearance of SSB Goku in ROF is easily dozens of times weaker than the SSB Goku in the TOP... #17 should be more than enough to handle ROF Golden Frieza... and #17 wasn't there because nobody knew where he was lol remember? Goku had to ask Dende to find #17

[@cuiveirwin]

I assume you mean 17 by the time of the RoF Arc and I’d say it’s very realistic. If he has the same mary suish writing as he did in the ToP, I could see him being relatively close to the Super Saiyan Blues but not quite as strong for plot convenience.

[@ziongamer6905]

The only argument I can have for RoF is that 17 can’t sense ki so he wouldn’t have known about anything happening across the planet But that still doesn’t explain why Dende couldn’t telepathically ask for assistance

[@cuiveirwin]

@@secoTheSonicFan that’s what I meant by it. No need to write some drawn out comment over nothing.

[@lxxdccvii3740]

16 cant get stronger by training because his literally a machine and is made of only metal

[@rjavon136]

That’s a GOOD QUESTION Dawg. Keep up the great vids 👍🏾👍🏾

[@marcus7984]

Return of the "What if?" King. Happy seeing another video

[@gamerdude612]

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[@wait.whereami5140]

I didn’t even know this man was still around, respect.

[@gerrellbynum3876]

Great to see you back!

[@fizzyfuzz5878]

You always make my favorite what if videos

[@Trap5656]

Oh wow this turns bad fast. I was thinking maybe there would be change, but as soon as you hit DBS it became a car crash fasted. Anyways another really good video man, and looking forward to the next one. What if suggestion: What if Gohan trained after the Cell Games?

[@ajplays3679]

Thank you! You're what ifs really hit different. Nice job. 👍🏾

[@extremelegendsupreme4596]

Damn although I’m not surprised it was a negative outcome as most what if’s are this one takes a interesting shift.

[@dumnbuger]

What if Dende healed Goku during frieza arc? Krillin sneaks dende to goku in the healing chamber to instantly heal him

[@cephas5053]

Nothing would change. Goku would still have the same Zenkai booth

[@Eric-py8yy]

Maybe Krilin wouldn't die

[@mattyice12]

I miss these what ifs by qaaman nobody elses compare. These vids were my life growing up

[@jessb8585]

Another scenario: Cell gives Goku the same speech he gave Vegeta about absorbing android 18 and Goku being the moron he is let’s him.

[@adog1882939]

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The legend returns with another great video

[@malcolmroache3854]

Oh snap Qaaman with the upload. Definitely check out later today. Hey Qaaman question. Are you interested in the movie at all? The movie looks ok but the CGI is really a buzz kill. Keep up the good work.

[@jordandavilabrown294]

Qaaman, could you do a "what if Vegito never unfused" video?

[@DenniDownBad]

Qaaman What If's are always good videos

[@cambam94spriggs76]

I'm glad you back I'm a long time fan

[@metal87power]

I don't think Vegeta would stay so anti-social. He would warm up eventually during 7 years.

[@lookas.j]

“The reason or one of the factors as for why 18 fell for Krillin is because he stayed by her side after Cell puked her out” What a sentence, welcome back Q

[@dthrust9037]

3:25 I feel like trunks and vegeta would’ve trained different because they would’ve saw what a pure ssj grade 4 was

[@QaamansLand]

How would they know? Neither group revealed their abilities. They went straight over to fight cell

[@codemonkeyslikeme]

This is why i and lsmike likes ur what-ifs over masokoX “fan-fict” what ifs

[@DarkestAndBlackest]

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[@tristanchriesmon1056]

Awesome theory my brotha I really enjoyed this video and hope to see more like this

[@hangeishot7919]

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[@brandonfrye2000]

The legend returns 🙌

[@DragonSkyNija]

I think when it comes to Goku if he was still alive in the 7 years before the Buu Saga, he would mostly spend his time on King Kais planet and train there, so I think sure Goku wouldn't have SSJ3 but would highly probably unlocked SSJ2 and also maybe mastered it, because he would know how to use it effectively in his training like he did with his SSJ1. Goku realized it was a big difference to use his SSJ forms in living and dead boddy especially with the SSJ3 that it drained his energy super fast, so he would probably realised that SSJ2 would drain energy a bit faster than SSJ and would probably train so he could maintain the transformation longer and maybe also making it stronger. So I think that Goku's base strength gonna be a bit weaker, but his SSJ 2 gonna be stronger maybe as strong as SSJ3 from the orginal story. Gohan can maybe be stronger if he When it Comes to Gohan he could be stronger if he chooses to join Goku sometimes on his Training on King Kais planet but maybe only the days he have Finished his home works and if his mom lets him. He could have maybe 2-3 days of training with Goku and I dont mean 2-3 24hours, but maybe 4-6h where Goku would probably be 12H+ in every 6-7days. Goten I agree with Vegeta could be the same and also stronger, because if he and Goku would join the 24th World Martial Arts Tournament and if would lose against Goku than he would probably trained even harder until the 25th Tournament where the Main story take place in. Kid Trunks I think would be stronger if Goten is stronger because they would press each other in their friendly battles. When it comes to Future Trunks he would be weaker because he and and Vegeta wouldn't need to go into the hyperbolic time chamber a secound time but the first time would still make them stronger than Android 17 and 18, but I think he gonna realise the weakness of Grade 3 probably against Imperfect Cell in his future, he sure would heavily damage Cell, but Cell would in his last resort use Solar flare and escape and go to hiding until he maybe tries to asorb Goku Black in the future where he fails and gets destroyed by him. Battle of Gods saga would be the same minus SSJ3, but I think the a the SSJG Ritual and everything else gonna be the same. Same answer with RoF saga Universe 7 vs 6 Gonna be kinda the same bu Buu would probably been replaced with Krillin. But the battle probably gonna be this Goku vs Botamo: Goku Wins Goku vs Frost: Frost Wins Krillin vs Frost: Frost Wins Piccolo vs Frost: Frost Wins Vegeta vs Frost they realise that Frost was cheating but Vegeta still wins and only Goku chose to make a comeback and rest is the same as the main story. Future Trunks Saga would almost be the same, sure Goku Black would be a bit weaker, but when he and Goku Black would fuse, I think that Gowasu would tell them that they can also fuse but probably it just gonna be Goku and Future Trunks because Vegeta would probably to be to proud to fuse. And the Fused form maybe called Trunkto would beat fused Zamasu where he still becomes a universal virus where they still gonna use zeno button to stop him with. When it comes to the Universal Tournament saga I think that if Gohan trains with Piccolo before the Tournament he would maybe be the only one who has Unlocked SSJ3 but he still would still be softer to his enemies because Piccolo wouldn't told him about his weaknesses to be over confidently about himself. When it cones the Roster for Universe 7 it gonna be 1. Goku 2.Vegeta 3.Gohan 4.Piccolo 5.Master Roshi 6.Krillin 7.Tien 8-10 could be Android 16-18 if they could be found and his still alive and if they willing choose to join, but if not than the 8.Frieza 9.Yamcha 10.Chiaotzu How the Tornament gonna go I can't tell it based wich characters chose to join and what the strategy most of them ginna use minus Goku,Vegeta and Frieza because they gonna do what they did the orginal story.

[@phenixgoku11]

Tldr

[@johnnycage112]

Hey Qaaman, what if Roshi successfully sealed King Piccolo?

[@QaamansLand]

Old video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGSskomXq9p-mNU Comment and let me know what you think

[@filipposveliadis7407]

Well the main reason Frieza trained is because he heard about goku beating buu and fighting on par with beerus. Its safe to assume if he didnt know this he would not have trained as hard if at all

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

He likely doesn't even get revived in the first place since Goku and Vegeta would still be on Earth in this timeline.

[@mayojar5264]

The king has returned

[@Zion122]

The legend is back

[@l33r99]

Damn welcome back Homie

[@maleekpate6770]

Great Video Quaman ✊🏾 OG fan

[@jamallhayden2512]

Welcome back ✊🏽

[@mr.patriotjol]

Ohhh yeah our OG Dogg is back!!!!

[@FearfulDivine]

The Return Of A Legend

[@sebastiandragonsin1423]

I feel like vegeta would of told him that grade 2 super sayian trunks is a useless form against cell

[@winterburden]

Qaaman here today!! 🤩

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Probably what should've happened, since even by that point Vegeta was a fuck up incarnate.

[@rzsdranb3789]

Damn. Guess it was for the best that vegeta and trunks want in the hyper sonic line chamber first. Anyway, that was a fun what if.

[@stevelucky7579]

Pretty sure Goku and chichi would have had 1 more kid.

[@Maraki-san]

Love the video

[@emilandrepienaar741]

Hey at Qaaman, I always wondered why did Trunks not go in with Piccolo when Trunks went in for his second time. I think for both trunks and piccolo it would've been a more effective training if they went in together. This could've even been played out that Piccolo still goes in first, his power level increases, then Vegeta goes in, When he comes out Trunks goes back in and asks piccolo to join him. This would mean that trunks has someone to battle against and work on staying in super saiyan. Then he might be able to achieve grade 4 as Goku and Gohan did and push past by getting Piccolo to shoot actual deadly moves against him. I also think he would ask Goku tips on their training while Vegeta is inside and then know how to be most effective

[@huhh2k]

Beg to differ when it comes to the end they would of asked sheron about the sayain god and things would of similarly played out the same as in regular dragon ball world

[@timothyfrasier8218]

What if Yamcha and Tien shinhan learned the Fusion Dance and Kaioken and taught everybody when they got revived and going the buu arc they managed to increase Kaioken to 400 and 17 and 18 survived and turned good and good buu survived and turned good too

[@markstriker925]

The green goat is back

[@wills8878]

Phenomenal breakdown

[@vampfics8384]

Very interesting video, I've been addicted to dragon ball what's as of late so thanks for my fix

[@Jay-ob9np]

Another great theory video!

[@LastGREATEST0]

Love the content even if its rare

[@OmegaMagnus11DA]

Was not expecting this lol

[@Selvokaz]

short answer, Vegeta would have been devastated, because, by the halfway point in the room of time of space, he'd realize his method wasn't getting him the gains he wants. Though if he did go second he probably would have estimated what Goku did and copied him, leaving him and Trunks to be more stronger possibly.

[@majinsole8554]

Staying cool and staying safe, my friend. Always nice to hear from you. ~_~

[@Number1Stowie]

Re: Frieza’s return, Frieza might not have trained as much as Goku wouldn’t have had the infamy of beating Majin Buu and fighting with Beerus.

[@dantemitsoyu977]

One thing I think vegeta would have been stronger than normally since at the end of the cell saga he said he is done fighting so he Proab didn’t train that hard compared to if goku was alive he would have trained much harder, He also wouldn’t have been depressed cause he didn’t see gohan atain that level

[@QaamansLand]

But he attained SSJ2 and wasn't impressed with SSJ2 Gohan so he was clearly stronger than Gohan was

[@dantemitsoyu977]

@@QaamansLand yeah but I’m talking about like how at the end of the cell saga he flies away and he’s like I’m never going to fight again (Cause goku is dead and seeing gohan) But I feel like since neither of those things really happened He would continue to train harder then he did originally and would have had many battles with goku through the 7 years And omg I’ve been watching u since 2012 big fan glad to see you back king of dbz theories

[@jimmymagic7686]

Vegeta trained non stop for 7 years straight

[@dantemitsoyu977]

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[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

Great video. Please do what if Vegeta got his wish for immortality

[@ziongamer6905]

I’m a bit curious, why exactly would Beerus have no interest in the crew? Maybe it’s my misunderstanding but I’d figure that even without SSJ3, we still have an equal power level SSJ3 Goku and Vegeta. Vegetas rage knocked Beerus around a bit, so i assumed that between that small display of strength, the decent mood Beerus would be in and the ability to wish for the god ritual information, leading to the new form- things would’ve been okay. Although if that form wasn’t enough and Beerus left, we’d at least have SSJ Gods

[@schakiarligonde1736]

Goku would still be weaker though with a weaker bade

[@sebastianc5155]

So weird how nobody has done a video on this

[@michaelbias8988]

Yep that's the massive butterfly effect you change one minor thing and it becomes a very big problem

[@Eric-py8yy]

Great video also what's the music 7:08

[@QaamansLand]

Trunks' Mind Ki Power theme

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@QaamansLand thanks also great video

[@SGSensei]

This what if comes down to these situations 1. Does Gohan train 2. Even if Vegeta is less likely to want to fight Goku is he completely pure? 3. Even if Goku and the gang don't impress Beerus would they still do the ritual. Gohan training can be inconsequential but it could matter for if he has to fight Buu because of question 2 because if he ends up on Supreme Kais world in this timeline Goku will not find him and would most likely die or just barely survive because Super Buu will likely happen Gohan would then have to kill Buu or help Goku kill him using the Spirit Bomb if Goku survives. I think it's still possible for Majin Vegeta too happen depending on how bad Vegeta wants to beat Goku even if they fight during the 7 years no guarantee Vegeta changes or even becomes less self-centered. Which leads to Gohan or Goku or both Killing Buu. Lastly Beerus in the end is looking for the Ssj God so even if Goku doesn't initially impress Beerus if Beerus gives them the ultimatum to bring out the super saiyan God it can still happen. At the end this is me playing devil's advocate for why something can happen

[@cryptomon86]

I love alternate timelines, multiverse and what ifs. Hope we see another saga involving time again

[@MojaveKnight17]

Goku lets Cell escape to another planet just like vegeta frezza

[@antyoung24]

Imo this story should've been abt Trunks just as much as Gohan. It would've been cool of they both went ssj2 and destroyed cell with a 2 sided attack

[@jamesmontgomery2611]

The what if king 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Jadoniah]

To me some of these events would still stay consistent to the main timeline being that beerus would want to fight the SSG and would be alot more patient being thay buu didn't upset him

[@yisus4681]

But Beerus and whis would still train the saiyans tho, because he would've still wanted to see the super saiyan God, asking shenron and making Goku the first ssg, seeing his potential then and take them to train, also the food. Meaning DBS wouldn't be affected at all up until Moro, because Uub would not be there to give goku the last push to defeat moro, meaning Moro explodes and destroys the galaxy.

[@Zandral36]

Frieza wouldn‘t be an issue because he only trained after hearing that Goku defeated Majin Boo. It would be Frieza who gets squashed if his people decided to resurrect him.

[@deanstarks4736]

Where have you been bro

[@NuII-v8n]

More like what if Gohan and Gohan fought as a Team or.. What if Goku and Vegeta trained in the HBTC.

[@mikelogan3547]

The whole situation actually depend on vegeta and Trunks, if they realized how much Goku had got ahead of him, they might try Goku's methods of training. The difference would be Vegeta and Trunks go inside time chamber together this time, so they gonna have more disgussion compare to the second time they went in in canon, which could end up with both Vegeta and Trunks mastered ssj. And the consequence could be Goku and Vegeta fight and train together in Gravity room together in that 7 years gap, so their power wouldn't be a lot different compare to their canon counterpart.

[@derogagaming4459]

if Mr Satan never "beat" cell what would the name of the city be?

[@Light_VIP]

For Dragon Ball Super, the ability of going SSJ3 didn't seem to be the deciding factor for Beerus' curiosity. It's very possible that the events in Battle of Gods play out the same way. Goku and the others find out about the SSJ God and still conduct the same ritual and because of DBS power scaling (other people in the comments brought up Android 17) It's very possible that power wise we can end up in the same scenario we are now except for Gohan not unlocking his ultimate form and the fusion dance (there are likely ways Potara fusion could still be discovered, obv not via the elder Kai).

[@mugiwara-no-lucy7802]

What's the music used in the What-If Killers #3-6 part as well as the music in the last part of the vid? XD

[@QaamansLand]

Give me exact timestamps and I'll tell you all

[@ZenRyoku]

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO FOOD LEFT FOR ANYONE THAT WENT IN AFTER HIM....💯 LOL

[@lokylock2287]

That's a good what if 💯

[@robertoramos9330]

Beating cell early wouldn't effect DBS cause goku could still turn God and make everything that happened, happen....even future trunks's arc with Supreme Kai training trunks....

[@QaamansLand]

How would Future Trunks' arc stay the same?

[@robertoramos9330]

@@QaamansLand well the buu part of the future was always Supreme kai's saga and he contacted trunks and trained him just like he did Gohan in the dbz buu saga....the goku black part continues just like the others since like I said, goku would still go ssg and go on to train with whis...

[@timothyfrasier8218]

What if after you do the Fusion dance to immediately put on the potara earrings increasing the amount of time you stay fused

[@WGPhil-uw5cs]

I think goku training first wouldn't be a good idea since he's just recovering from a heart virus.

[@MurkN]

What if Semi Perfect Cell absorbed Goku or Gohan during their fight?

[@literallycantcomeupwithaname20]

he cant really absorb absorb them i also dont see him getting the chance because he tried it on grade 2 vegeta and failed

[@MurkN]

True but Goku is more likely to let his guard down

[@ShaunInce123]

They would have mopped the floor with Semi Perfect Cell.