What If... S3 Was Disappointing (even with low expectations)?

[@ELECTRICSHEEP94]

Also thanks watcher you saved one woman and one kid from their fucked up fate, now lets just ignore the zombie universe where people are being cannibalized and killed daily, if only there was a cosmic being with great power who could have saved that universe.....if only......"what if"

[@guywholikesanimations1018]

You do know the events of the zombie episode happen before he starts to break his oath yes? Also That same timeline is literally getting its own spin off show we’re we see what happens After

[@AtesSu2006.]

​@@guywholikesanimations1018 it is multiverse so universe with zombies never ends

[@vlhruaiatochhawng3076]

Exactly. The Watcher breaking his oath randomly was out of character. It's nothing but a lazy writing.

[@ElfireII]

@@guywholikesanimations1018 bro. He decides to break his path AFTER all of this happened. The stupidity comes from him favouring his favourite characters over entire timelines he could have saved by intervening.

[@pepsiman7453]

At this point I would enjoy if there was a blinged-out Watcher called The Playah that actually interferes

[@Soviet_frog51]

What if….. what if got a season 4 Season 4, episode 1: What if a cat became Ironman Season 4, episode 2: what if Thor learned the floss Season 4, episode 3: What if Spider-Man did a meaningful backflip Season 4, episode 4: What if tony meant to hug Spider-Man

[@dzigayu4944]

Season 4, episode 5: What if Hulk joined Master Chef

[@DeezalimNuts]

Season four ep six, what if my dad loved me

[@La_cabine_de_Cabine]

Alright the first 3 episodes I did not care about, but I burst out laughing at episode 4, I need that one in my life

[@MarcusNcc17]

I’d watch that season.

[@roberteospeedwagon8178]

Season 4 episode 6: What if Captain Carter became Jesus oh wait

[@memeboyr6177]

It's very obvious to me that the writers would have been better off writing an Elseworlds series instead of a what-if series, especially due to the complete lack of their homework being done as mentioned countless times in this video. On top of that, if they did an Elseworlds series instead of a what-if series, the excuse of "oh its an alternate universe" would actually be valid instead of a misconception around the differences between Elseworlds and what-if stories.

[@ELECTRICSHEEP94]

I find it funny how people are trying to say Ultron redeemed himself this season, did everybody forget he basically genocide an entire universe, hell if every tyrant or genocidal Maniac could be forgiven for their past sins then let's just forgive Hitler.

[@guywholikesanimations1018]

He didn’t redeem himself tho? He knew he was beyond any redemption but he did try to do the right thing He didn’t redeem himself he just saw he could at the very least do something good before he would die

[@Theendman42]

⁠@@guywholikesanimations1018Did he try to do the right thing though? He could have brought back all life in the universe after releasing his mistake. But the writers weren’t thinking.

[@andelepolak2666]

There're also people saying we should do that.

[@ryukyle5913]

What if.... it wasn't all just about Captain Carter

[@puggietaur]

I would be fine if it was about Captain Carter but she was well written, like she was for part of last season

[@Bred-vz2py]

​@@puggietaur No it wouldn't because the show would not be "what if" if they want to make a show about captain carter then call it that. I mean a number of the characters we see in the intros are not even used.

[@serotoninlight7269]

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[@miracles4219]

Very glad I dropped this show after S1. It sounds like a show you watch while high on acid

[@puggietaur]

unfortunately you still watched the worst season 😆

[@eliasisaev7060]

more like high on hopium

[@Cam_Can_Play]

It's genuinely impressive that this show can make characters that THEY CREATED act out-of-character.

[@Operation_Bagel]

This is Missed Potential: The Show, even under the restrictions they had with who they could use I can’t believe this is the best they came up with. And it’s over? You’d think this would benefit the most as the MCU continues and the possibilities of what if stories grows. Then again, if this is the quality we can expect, I guess it’s good that it’s over. It was immensely satisfying hearing you question things I was screaming at my tv over when watching lol good shit Puggie

[@sigsqrl]

YES OMD I was worried I was crazy about how horrible this season was- why was EVERY episode a “I know you’re in there, this isn’t you 🥺” episode??? 😭

[@sigsqrl]

I know episode four wasn’t much of an “I know you’re in there” episode, BUT I still found it really bad because, everything kind of happens just to happen. So many things make no sense and so many characters act stupidly just for convenience’s sake.

[@lasercraft32]

You know its bad when SOMEHOW the episode where a human woman lays an egg is the best in the season...

[@puggietaur]

and maybe even the entire show...

[@artemis2027]

For the "if the emergence destroyed Earth" episode they could've made it a plot with someone like Thor and other characters that typically aren't on Earth and how they react to the destruction of Earth.

[@Cam_Can_Play]

That's 100% what I thought it would be about. A story about all the heroes off-world trying to avenge the entire Earth and fight Tiamut would've been awesome.

[@kaior1]

the fact they show us cool veriants at the end is a big f you

[@Zzzzt792]

Starting off the year on the best note possible with this one. Happy new year puggie

[@walnutyuh6456]

Man you are so good at this, like damn most people say "show sucks" but you actually go into detail on why it sucks and all the continuity errors, even about the episodes with characters from the movies and shows most people (including me) didn't watch cause they were practically slop. I hope you get more views and stuff cause you deserve it

[@itskarthik]

Honestly this is a very detailed review on this Season ive seen on KZbin. Keep it up dude. Cant wait for the Infinity Ultron episode 😂

[@puggietaur]

that one's up next, it's quite an episode...

[@darklink6863]

What If...Peggy Carter was the most glazed character of all media?

[@Choompar]

When i first watched a video summary of this i thought i found an april fools prank in December for some reason, i honestly still have trouble believing this is ACTUALLY REALL

[@andresomerville4896]

Sharon Carter isn't really character assassinated because her character was already destroyed when she became the power broker in Falcoln and the winter soldier.

[@puggietaur]

this is faster and more drastic than that though, that happened over 5+ years

[@andresomerville4896]

@puggietaur good point. How long was it in the show?

[@puggietaur]

@@andresomerville4896iirc we don't see her between civil war (2016) and FATWS (2024) which is actually 8 years. FATWS establishes that she didn't get snapped even though the Avengers think she did in EG, so i guess they thought she'd become villainous due to that. it's still quite badly written but not as bad as here

[@TheAnnyParker]

This video was the first time I realized that mysterio's name isn't Quinton Beck and that that's just a fake name.

[@puggietaur]

it's definitely a missable detail

[@mubs2685]

Nah immediately I saw them fight a celestial and win I just knew this shit was over

[@axelnilsson5124]

Makes more sense with Agatha with those powers along with the eternals than someone who barely mastered the power for a day and their 6 mortal friends

[@kaior1]

this show cant be canon it makes no sense if the watchers can erase people from time lines why didnt they destroy kang saving everyone

[@guywholikesanimations1018]

they all had an oath we’re they can’t interfere The watcher from the show is the first one who broke it And Loki already did that way beforehand when he became the god of stories in loki season 2

[@NoBody-oe3bf]

@@guywholikesanimations1018except they let him break his oath for 2 seasons straight so is the oath really that important

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

08:45 How can you have SIX singularities? Doesnt the name imply there can be only one all encompassing one? In the MCU, Hulk was a result of Banner trying to use Gamma radiation to 'unlock Erskine's formula' and it went wrong FUN FACT: in the Starlord Black Panther episode, they tell you he stopped thanos by arguing, the reason they dont show it because the writers are incapable of writing

[@slimer37]

That usage of singularity is fine. The “singular” in there is referring to a single point of concentration and implies nothing else besides its definition. The movies have used this word for the infinity stones as well.

[@kaior1]

these writers dont read comics so am not suprised

[@ahmed4363]

I don't think they've even seen the movies

[@lavender317]

I actually really appreciate you giving Captain Carter a fair assessment as a character instead of just labeling her as a "generic mary-sue" or whatever like a lot of people do She's not the best character or anything, but a lot of opinions I've heard of her usually have some misogynistic rhetoric mixed in

[@puggietaur]

i had to after what they did with her in s2 really impressed me (until they botched it in the finale). one of the few things the show does that's really good, shame that they write her poorly after that

[@vaggos2003]

You described that What if...? was once upon a time your second most hated piece of fictional media ever. As of now, does this apply to the entirety of the show or just season 1? Also, gotta love that one of the most hated episodes ended up being your favourite of the entire show with a decent 4/10 no less. You just implied at the end of the video that you consider 1/2 of Arcane as worse than 2/3 of What if...?. Let us all take a moment to think of the implications of that statement. 😏

[@puggietaur]

I dislike Season 1 far more than the other 2. There are parts of S2 I really really like even if they get ruined later in the season

[@vaggos2003]

In terms of the exact details of my question, I pressume that the title of your #2 worst thing ever goes only to S1.​@@puggietaur

[@MarcusNcc17]

I enjoyed What If in a No thoughts only vibes kinda way. But that’s also why I like your content showing how interconnected this world is… is amazing.

[@sheriffjester8473]

2:25 average spidey encounter with a healer.

[@vaggos2003]

My first youtube video of the new year! Happy New Year from lovely Greece!!!

[@KitsuneRokaku]

23:50 *technically* Sharon would work with them considering she became the Power Broker and is selling weapons to the highest bidder. She became disillusioned with working for SHIELD and decided to rebel against the system that didn't care about her

[@puggietaur]

that's over the course of 5+ years though (and i'd still consider it out of character for her). this was instant

[@KitsuneRokaku]

@puggietaur Fair enough. I thought it was out of character when they did it in Falcon and the Winter Soldier too. And we haven't seen Sharon since then... Almost like it was pointless 🤣

[@vaggos2003]

Fibally finished watching aaaaaaand first like under a YT video of the year! That was quite a decent start.

[@KayronTheFifth]

What if... The Watcher sneezed, wiping the board clean and making way for a good story?

[@axelnilsson5124]

It doesn’t really matter since the show is (supposedly) an anthology

[@eruick047]

I found you channel recently and fell in love with your analysis on marvel media, I disagree here and there but overall I live you takes a lot. I *adored* Arcane, even tho it undoubtedly fell off at the last 3 episodes (imo), seeing that little nod there at the end makes me very excited for the possibility you do a video covering it, I understand these videos take a lot of time to make but I would love to see how Arcane could be worse than What If S3, still, great video, keep up the good work!

[@plantgang8738]

Bro got jumped by iron fist and bucky

[@kaya8447]

26:00 the what if episode doesn't explain this, but the shattered Earth kept atmosphere in AoS season 5 because of chunks of Gravitonium that was in the core of the earth which also kept the chunks of earth close together. Doesnt make that what if episode any less stupid, but yeah

[@MemewaveKillfeed]

i honestly like the mech designs

[@puggietaur]

fair enough. i don't like how they look but that's pretty subjective

[@Tevin-MK]

he sent those shards there on purpose ngl

[@Tevin-MK]

the watcher can watch you take a shit, he can probably send shards through space with coordinates

[@puggietaur]

he didn't, he just got hit against a wall and that wall broke

[@legocommandercody212]

The first 2 episodes of the new animated Spider-Man series is better than the whole of what if season 3

[@axelnilsson5124]

Actually Thanos wouldn’t have been killed by Hela because Thor was the one who discovered that Loki pretended to be Odin so Odin would still have died on earth without Loki going for him

[@slayerairsoft]

To explain the gama rays making a new beast. In the comics for what they're going off of the hulk is able to "hulk out" like many other people and that hulk is the titan hulk. It's a good story and much better

[@meh3277]

Don't know whether to be surprised or exasperated that the crackfix writing of episode 4 is better than all the rest.

[@N.o.r.m]

I think it's so damn weird that the writers of Howard the duck wanna have him get with a human so damn bad. fuckin gross Those mfs need to be mentally evaluated.

[@ThePoisonSteel]

48:01 It pains me so much that this is accurate.

[@justsomeguyonhisphone709]

FNIFNWGNUDWHATT!?!?!?! How is the DUCK FANFICTION episode the highest!?!?

[@lordnoob404]

"What if we made a season to advertise the most recent phase's characters because no one cares about them?" - Execs, probably. Also, I absolutely HATE birdie, 0 depth character.

[@changvasejarik62]

4:23 alternatively the beeper was destroyed with him, though that wouldn’t explain why he didn’t activate the beeper. Regardless at least season two gave me the 1980’s avengers which for its flaws I still consider “good”, this gave me NOTHING!

[@miau_the_cat]

The Emergence episode is just Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 5 executed very badly.

[@Abkimb]

Infinity ultron would be good friends with the high evolutionary from gotg3 until they betray each other

[@rasatherasa]

The fact you have been making these types of videos for years, yet they still fail to correctly make a What If... episode.

[@puggietaur]

They got close... I'm thinking maybe I'll revisit 2x05 and think "Perhaps I treated you too harshly" and consider it average instead of bad

[@spookyisdead3449]

Nice video. I stopped watching What If at the point of season 2 and I prefer Miraculous for example more. It was said in your video that X-Men 97' was good, but taking the original 1992 show into consideration it did have major continuity issues such as Bastion simply being born and I might being willingly to argue that Apocalypse kind of got character assassinated.

[@puggietaur]

There are continuity issues with the original show but the ones I know of aren't that severe, I'm unsure why Bastion being born is a continuity issue, and I don't think Apocalypse is assassinated at all. It for sure isn't a perfect show but the character work is very strong and the plot mostly holds up save for a bit of plot armor and a few continuity errors

[@spookyisdead3449]

The parts from Nimrod teleported from 1959 to 2055. The parts being in 1959 led to the birth and existence of Bastion, but the parts weren't in 1959 meaning the massacre in Genosha for example couldn't have happened logistically. Apocalypse in X-Men 97' claimed Genosha victims were his "children" which was a character assassination for the particular version used. Apocalypse in the original 1992 show claimed out loud he wasn't a mutant and he was visually and audibly more mechanical than human. "Mutants are human." to quote Master Mold in season 1 episode 13.

[@puggietaur]

i don't think apocalypse is referring to mutants when he says "my children." he's just addressing whoever his children are, which i think means his horsemen are there and he's talking to them the bastion thing idk about i didn't finish the original show, but my guess could be that bastion could be born before the pieces traveled to the future

[@spookyisdead3449]

Kind of a stretch, but I am unsure how I could refute that currently. The pieces teleported to 2055 like seconds after Nimrod got shot by Bishop last time I checked making it physically impossible for Bastion to be born the way he was meaning no massacre at Genosha meaning no Gambit death cutting like half of season 1 of X-Men 97'. I don't recall Bastion's exact birth date being stated, but it seems to have been after May 11, 1959 which is when the Nimrod parts teleported to 2055.

[@TomAvital]

Tbh I liked episode 3. It made sense for the character motives, it explored some fun scenarios, and it had great character development.

[@puggietaur]

it didn't make sense for bucky. he shouldn't be unbrainwashed that easily just because he made a friend

[@axelnilsson5124]

It’s obvious that the first episode of the season is supposed to be inspired by Pacific Rim and Power Rangers like how what if… zombies? is supposed to be inspired by Marvel Zombies as the comics did reenact other movies like John Carpenters The Thing

[@simbadas1234]

about the emergence episode it's kinda funny how agents of shield did this better the world was quaked apart, the only bits of humanity left were either on a space station where some aliens were treating them like slaves, or a small pocket of surivors on a chunk of the planet, that's a complete wasteland.

[@Concrete_Glazer]

W Marvel Rivals gameplay

[@The_Profanity_Professor]

So the X Men are allowed to exist in what if but not the MCU?

[@holvingar4375]

4:45 this gameplay is diabolical (im no better)

[@shivanshukantprasad]

How is it that a weird fetish episode is the best episode of the show?

[@Operation_Bagel]

Seated for peak

[@Ginko_Sakata]

@@Operation_Bagel What a loser😷

[@sarveshtalekar9070]

9:54 you have never seen Bollywood 😂

[@dudewithaname525]

might be me being dumb, but didnt the dr strange bad guys have the ability to use mirror world shenanigans in the real one because of dormamu/dark magics?

[@puggietaur]

no. the dark magic is what allowed them to do that WITHIN the mirror dimension (which is also why The Ancient One doing it reveals that she has been drawing power from the dark dimension as well), outside of it all they can do is make their glass weapon thingies and other small stuff like that

[@dudewithaname525]

Ahhhh okay thanks, somereason brain has the memory of them doing the mirror stuff in the real sanctum with the like, moving the floor and changing gravity etc

[@bechill2174]

Of course your a spiderman main in marval Rivals can you do a complete break on why you don't get heals 😂

[@plumbussmith]

This season was so disappointing.

[@neptunestarprime]

Hey, you forgot how the combining sequence Sucked ass

[@GuviG-h9n]

8:23 the cake was a lie

[@Dark-Navy-DVman]

They killed my goat though 😭🙏

[@puggietaur]

who?

[@Dark-Navy-DVman]

@ ultron

[@puggietaur]

infinity ultron ain't my goat... i'll be making vids on his episodes eventually

[@freedeoxide]

What if is cool if you know nothing and Just watch The silly show Then if you think about it (which the writers didnt) basically nothing made sense

[@virgurilla4084]

Good thing you comment just on the story and worldbuilding and not on the plain writting because GOD DAMN the lines are BAD.

[@lyinlion7q419]

Bruh if dc can have branches ripple flint h forward and back so can marvel as a mater of fact that’s literally happened a lot in the comics. So the disclaimer is kind of nonsense

[@ethanhong5466]

So season 3 ep 1 is j pacific rim but worse

[@puggietaur]

haven't seen pacific rim but as far as i can tell yeah it's a worse version of pacific rim + voltron + godzilla + other things + bruce becoming Luke from TLJ

[@ZenTea]

Really should have waited to do a proper video. Having rivals b roll play is beyond lazy. Sorry dude, can’t watch this.

[@puggietaur]

i don't care enough about s3 to do a proper video, it's not worth the time

[@MrNhawkes]

The video game in the background is ruining the show. Good Arguments, nothing good to visually see. That was Lazy Writing.

[@puggietaur]

sorry, was trying to get this out ASAP so i was only showing clips when necessary to explain my point

[@the_gay_bandit]

At 20:25 we have actually seen him in Doctor Strange 1 bend matter outside the mirror dimension and the ancient one even acknowledges it and sounds worried he’s doing it