WHAT IF SONIC NEVER LOST THE WEREHOG FORM? PART 5 | Sonic: What If?

[@ConsueloHigdon]

Silver offering to return with Future Medicine sounds SO IN CHARACTER for Silver

[@RamielEdits]

And awfully similar to another time traveling hero.. No I'm not angry I love dragon ball and somic combined

[@LycanMOON]

Honestly it does

[@icouldntthinkofaname155]

"Maybe we can fix this with *F U T U R E A D V I L* "- Silver, probably.

[@segascourge]

@@RamielEdits dammit, someone's noticing my deliberate+unintentional Dragonball inspiration 😆

[@segascourge]

I'm really glad someone liked that, haha!

[@karenbonds264]

The ending in a nutshell: *The problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in Darkness...*

[@viciosgamer6930]

Super lol That was a good reference to that meme

[@ultima1033]

Duuuude, XD

[@NightmaredPie]

@@r0v3n1xx no its a reference to the meme What are you 14?

[@NightmaredPie]

@@r0v3n1xx i didnt read all of it it was f-ing long Im 10

[@jjj9640]

11:45 And that's how Sega Scourge made the Sonic fan-base WET THEIR PANTS!

[@makaylafloyd8156]

Aw, Classic Sonic over here being a pure optimist. He's adorable.

[@Pēm̐cā]

Yes

[@segascourge]

Fully agree ✨

[@reedtimbers2748]

I’m loving this a lot I love the werehog I wished they implemented this story through the actual games or an actual comic series made by IDW Comics

[@Starcat5]

@@segascourge Plus, his dose of Dark Gaia energy probably wasn't even sentient. No voice in the back of his head telling him to run wild. Where as Modern Sonic, in his desperation and loneliness, has embraced the parasite within. ...oh snap. If Classic Sonic was from between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2, we might have just created a sub-What If! Granted, it might only be a one-shot leading up to Mania, but the effects this has on Sonic CD alone might make it worth it.

[@Code_Null]

@@Starcat5 oh shit yeah that’d change a lot

[@goldninjagaming9505]

Here's my theory on why Sonic is now Werehog in the day. As he was trying to escape White Space, he found himself comforted by Dark Gaia, embracing it. Basically accepting the darkness, to use Kingdom Hearts talk. This allowed Dark Gaia to gain more influence over Sonic, and grow stronger. I don't think anything in Lost World would be able to help him, but there's always unexpected twists when it comes to these. Great job, Scourge.

[@randomadventurer2452]

The life draining machine could possible drain the dark life force in sonic and Zavok’s uses dark Gaia for himself or for his crew the even more Deadlier Six

[@victoramaral3453]

@@randomadventurer2452 Yeah and maybe sonic get rid off the dark gaia but zavok get's the energy and became a monstrous creature and sonic needs to accept his burden to protect everyone

[@sebay4654]

"Kingdoms hearts lead me into everlasting Darkness." Hehehe

[@sebay4654]

I started with three than played 1 followed by watching days (for the bonus cards in re:com) currently working on getting through re:com also did a proud mode playthrough of 0.2 and a playthrough on beginner of 3 (because I was struggling with data org but was able to complete it on the lower difficulty shockingly also beat yozora (I am still surprised myself that I was able to do it)

[@segascourge]

Thanks, Gold! Really great theory btw, you might be onto something 👍

[@metaldragon9935]

My personal theory: Sonic subconsciously tapped into Dark Gaia's energy to reach the necessary speed to escape. However, he's been embracing Dark Gaia's power more and more, and that has lead to this more permanent transformation.

[@doomdude1019]

Mine is similar to yours but when sonic tapped in to more dark gaia energy the transformation was a perfect fusion of base and werehog, speed of base form and strength of the were boi.

[@SuperGamefreak18]

I want to add that chip left because chip is being blocked by the dark gaia energy

[@0utlaw2048]

I'd like to add on to your theory. maybe in that Split second when Sonic was trying to reach the necessary speed to go faster maybe instead of thinking about how comforting it is to have dark giya's presence with him maybe he should have said thought of chips presence causing him to turn back into his base form by tapping into Chip's power instead. Adding on to this what if he thought about both chip and dark giya's presence at the same time. Maybe he would have created a perfect Unison between werehog and normal Sonic, being just as fast as normal Sonic while being just as powerful as werehog.

[@LuckiSir]

That’s what I was thinking, perhaps when Sonic felt comforted by Dark Gaia’s presence it grew stronger from within his body but not in a bad way. It’s kinda like darkness from Kingdom Hearts. Although in Sonic’s case it’s definitely bad, cause Chip is gone and he’s still stuck in the Werehog state.

[@isaiahwashington9782]

That could've been it

[@callumsparrow4379]

Hang up a sec, I've just noticed a correlating theme throughout the "Sonic Never Lost The Werehog Form" series so far: Part 1 (Black Knight) was about Sonic trying to deny the Werehog Part 2 (Colours DS) was about Sonic's anger over the Werehog form Part 3 (Generations HD) is about Sonic bargaining for a chance to fully rid himself of the Werehog form Recognising what pattern this is turning into, I'm betting on Part 4 (Lost World) focusing on Sonic's depression of having to deal with the Werehog form 24/7 and the hurdles that come with such a scenario, and Part 5 (Forces) focusing on his inevitable acceptance of it.

[@Nev1812]

Like the stages of grief?

[@crossfire34]

Wow, that's actually really cool if it was intentional.

[@AceTrainerSquirtle]

Oh my god

[@liamschermer7901]

I think that would be an amazing character arc. The blue blur losing something he always had for good. In forces, Sonic would see how even with the handicap, his friends will still be with him to the end. I could see him getting cured but who knows

[@gozenfrost1012]

Oh my god, I never even noticed this pattern until now!

[@themidnightotaku22]

When Erazor Djinn fuses with the Time Eater I believe that would warrant an “OH F***” moment.

[@LittleLexi24]

The Midnight Otaku Definitely

[@ultima1033]

An Evil genie merges with a mechanized time monster... Ladies and gentlemen, Shit has indeed just hit the fan

[@bradycicchini6994]

Hit from DBS fusing with Time Eater would look SICK!

[@joshuahecht6866]

The Midnight Otaku Erazor Djinn using Time Rater will create: The End Of The Entire World and The Universe. Erazor almost won as a result. If it weren’t For Sonic and his friends. Everyone would have died as a result and Erazor Djinn could have been the Ruler Of Literally Everything.

[@themidnightotaku22]

Thank you Josh, you can delete that last comment in peace now.

[@karenbonds264]

Sega Scourge about Darkspine Werehog: "I pulled a little sneaky on ya!"

[@wolfspidervers1150]

The sonic team trying to come up with something positive to say: "well... At least you have chest fur!"

[@RamielEdits]

Shadow in the corner:"...mine looks cooler..."

[@elisabethsun7059]

69 likes no one ruin it people!

[@egglord2029]

@@elisabethsun7059 THOSE SON OF A HOGHEADS!

[@merchantziro4285]

Honestly I'm calling it now, by the end of this What If, Sonic is gonna be in a form that is the best of both worlds, with the speed of his base form and the power of his Werehog form when he accepts the Dark Gaia in him, perhaps that's what this form you teased is.

[@Peaceful_Seon]

That's my guess due the giant foreshadowing image in this part

[@bobbob1876]

My theory: in Whitespace, when Sonic had just about given up, Chip sacrificed his power to boost Sonic's speed, which is why the bracelet's jewel is broken. The Dark Gia energy didn't gain more power; it simply isn't hindered by Light Gia anymore.

[@nak8490]

That is good. We will have to see what happens.

[@radicalhedgehog_]

if that ending was official..... Imagine how many Sonic fans would felt about this back then.

[@andresmarrero8666]

Rage and concern are my guesses.

[@joshuahecht6866]

RadicalHedgehog Feeling hollow and feeling Blue. Like El Camino: Jesse Pinkman Breaking Bad Movie and The View From Halfway Down Episode from Bojack Horseman.

[@averytubestudios]

PISSED.

[@joshuahecht6866]

If it’s the end of the What If. Then everyone feels Blue.

[@joshuahecht6866]

AveryTubeHD How are you pissed buddy, what have you got problems with this ending of this Amazing What If Series?

[@mileshk8083]

Alright, a couple of things here: - the new transformations you presented were amazing. I absolutely love the combination of Alf-Layla-Wa-Layla with the Time Eater and the design is marvelous. - the changes you made lead to a finale I wasn't expecting. Time Eater out of control, Erazor Djinn trapped forever in the White Space Zone, Classic Sonic with the Werehog curse, and the permanent transformation of Werehog. Will Sonic ever recover from this adventure? I feel kinda sad for the outcome of this What If; keep in mind, this adventure you imagined is amazing (you have an incredible imagination for telling stories), and so are the other scenarios you presented, but since Part 2 Sonic has had some pretty bad luck: - in the story of Black Knight, while the idea was good, the magic of Merlina was somehow corrupted giving Sonic a worst form than the Werehog, and not even Excalibur Shadow was able to cure him; - in Colors, the Super transformation wasn't enough to purify the Nega Mother Wisp, and thanks to Dark Gaia energy, Sonic saw a hellish form of the Werehog, the beast from his nightmares. If it wasn't for his friends Sonic would've have lost his hedgehogity to the darkness - and now here, while I would've loved a confrontation of Sonic against his darkness, he made incredibly risky moves just to try to get rid of his curse, resulting in Classic Werehog, his permanent transformation and an incredible loss in his usual speed. So, next time we will soar to the mythical Lost Hex, where his residents are not pleased with visitors. However, ever since Part 2, I've always wondered how his cursed powers could lead him to different strategies against the Deadly Six. PS: Could you please present the name of the fusion monster you created?

[@ruccsacc]

Miles Hk it was Alf WaMaritan, meaning, one thousand times over, a play on Alf Laylat al walayla, meaning one thousand and one nights, since he fused with the time eater

[@joshuahecht6866]

Mujib Ali 1001 Nights A Thousand Times Over

[@joshuahecht6866]

One Thousand And One Nights, A Thousand Times Over

[@Lordmetalic0101]

Is not Shadow, the name in The black knight world is Excalibur Lancelot.

[@sebay4654]

Welcome to another episode of Darkness? the hit game show where you can win big and lose nothing except your body and free will. Our host tonight is dark gaia, the Darkness within planet and our guest tonight is sonic the hedgehog from planet Mobius. Let's begin with the show Darkness? Your options are A. Darkness, B. Darkness, C. Darkness and D. Darkness

[@shard7549]

What if Scourge the hedgehog was in a Sonic game? His backstory included and adjusted to match the games continuity.

[@stg4theglitchog768]

We never know who are the parents of Sonic and the great war did not existed in the games, so they will have to make him a new backstory.

[@katelynnjones8836]

Yes please

[@uszerntlm9567]

Created by Eggman as the second ultimate lifeform after shadow by researching the genetic DNA of hedgehog Gerald Robotnik has!

[@shard7549]

uszerntlm I feel like he should still be an alternate Sonic. As we have established a multiverse in Sonic Forces Id imagine Eggman stumbles upon his universe as a result of the phantom ruby exploding at the end of Forces.

[@fangirldreamer748]

@@shard7549 I wish this would happen!

[@DarthMolgy]

Sonic basically just told Erazor: "Sing a song of sorrow, in a world where time has vanished."

[@perrypro1263]

I just noticed that this saga is following a pattern similar to the stages of grief. 1. Negation (part 1 Black Knight) Sonic can't accept the fact that he is no longer fully hedgehog during all periods of day, fearing that the new part which he deems as dangerous and harmful could pose a threat to his friends outside of his control, expressed in the Excalibur Lancelot vs. Perfect Werehog fight in his dream. 2. Anger (Colors) Sonic has developed a fear towards his werehog part, expressed both in anger towards Eggman when he remarks his new issues and disgust when his friends act towards him in a surprisive way. This is expressed in his fight against Mother Wisp, where his anger and dark energy prevents him from dealing with her on his own and almost bring him to his death. 3. Bargaining (Generations) Sonic has accepted the Werehog to a certain degree, but stills regards it as a danger. He is willing to involve himself in possibly dangerous missions (such as fighting a mytological legend without being able to ensure a win) just to see some hope of him turning back to his original shape. Classic transformation may represent his fears of having the Werehog form forever affect his perception. From now on we have sadness (Lost World, maybe something related to his inability to help Tails and use his flexibility to his full extent) and acceptance (Forces, where through the Avatar he may learn how not being able to use his speed at all times doesn't neccessarily have to be negative and can full rely on his friends again). Edit: an asshat called Callum Sparrow stole my comment. Mine is older as I posted it two hours before his.

[@perrypro1263]

Post video analysis: well that ending was a really interesting change of pace, but still fits with my theory. Sonic's original DarkSpine Werehog transformation and the posterior Super Werehog would be representative of the instances he takes against his issues: one in which he can only rely on himself and turns to the ring's anger, or one were he can trust his friends to regain positive energy. His permanent transformation but Classic's return represent his emotions: a dark desesperation, where even the hopes that could provide light are still poisoned by his desesperation (dark energy in Classic still remaining.) The next stage being somehow related to depression makes sense, as people who go through this period are faced with accepting a loss now as part of their current situation, feeling that they may have lost a part of them. Good job Scourge!

[@joshuahecht6866]

1. Denial(Sonic Unleashed Finale and Black Knight) 2. Anger(Sonic Colors) 3. Bargaining/Desperation(Sonic Generations and The Secret Rings) 4. Depression(Sonic Lost World) 5. Acceptance(Sonic Forces) Nothing will ever be the same ever again because the fusion is permanent, any trying to remove the Werehog form equals fatal. Any wish also is fatal. Sonic accepted that his speed is gone. This is a character development that is rare in Sonic games and development for everyone else.

[@perrypro1263]

@@joshuahecht6866 Totally agree!

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

@@perrypro1263 How about Sonic somehow getting his normal form back, with the help of Avatar, but still transforming into the Werehog?

[@toainsully]

@@joshuahecht6866 What about Sonic Frontiers?

[@classicspeeder]

I wonder how this would effect Mania and Classic Sonic's timeline after Generations

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

It technichley means thet a entire new Timline has bein written, in wher Sonic has the Werhog form for MUCH longer. Now im intrestet how that Sonic develops and how the events of Unleashed go by. Its also possible that Eggman in thise timline isnt even going to try this, seeing as he KNOWS the results.

[@cauaplays1331]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 Imagine Werehog in the night stages and times on the Adventure games and Heroes... (not counting the stages of the classic games)

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@cauaplays1331 Acually Sega Scourge said Classic Sonic is from past Sonic 1! Meaning Sonic 2-3 and Knuckles havent happend yet. So yes he probably is gonna rip apart the Death Egg Robot in ther next encounter. But this also makes me wonder...is Eggman gonna build a Metal Sonic AND a Metal Werehog?

[@cauaplays1331]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 But the Death Egg battle tecnically happens at daytime, right? Since when Sonic is saved by Tails when he falls, it's day. (I don't know how it works on Unleashed...) Also, I think Classic Sonic on Generations is from post Sonic 2, since he knows Tails, but I don't know....

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@cauaplays1331 Huh? No it dosnt. Its in Space. As long as the Sun dosnt shine trough to hit Sonic he will be the Werehog in Space as we saw in the part 3. It may be day on earth but the fight itself happens in Space. Also Sega Scourge clearley said that Classic has no idea how to youse the Chaos Emereld ore what Super Sonic is. So that means this plays Pre Sonic 2

[@crossfire34]

I've been thinking about this for a while now. What if when Tails is kidnapped in Lost World Sonic ends up killing Zor in a blacked out rage? I think this could be used as a wake up call to Eggman that he should probably do something to cure Sonic from the Werehog.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

That could be intresting. That even Eggman says "Okay no this cant continue" but more out of self preservertion. Maybe the 6 months he has Sonic as a prisoner in forces are yoused to find a cure to the Werhog instead of just...having him prisoner.

[@modelomegatyler]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 it'd be like the dark sonic incident from sonic X only it needs more than a peptalk

[@cryerboys4849]

Wasn't it daytime when sonic met zor?

[@modelomegatyler]

@@cryerboys4849 it doesn't matter anymore

[@crossfire34]

@@cryerboys4849 No, Zor's first boss was at night.

[@comicfan1324]

*Video premieres in 23 hours* Me: “I can wait.”

[@bluemario3429]

Can or can’t?

[@omnisystem6030]

@@bluemario3429 can

[@viciosgamer6930]

My prediction of the next parts is gonna be that: The form sonic transformed but was not revealed will eventually become his new real form with the price of accepting dark gaia's essence inside of him

[@GreenSigmaTH]

You know what..... I can totally see this spinning off into "What if Classic Sonic had the Werehog form" and we'd see how Classic would fare with having it in the Classic Series of games: Sonic 2, CD, 3, 3D Blast and Mania. Would be interesting for sure.

[@ultima1033]

Curse you, SegaScourge! Curse you and your horrid ability to craft cliffhangers that leave me wanting the next episode immediately! XD. That tease at a new form especially got under my skin. Lol The designs of the villan and dark spine werehog sonic are amazing. Most notably the eye of dark gaia giving red flags. If chip wasn't there, I don't even want to think how he may have turned out. Also loved how you brought back Sonic's friends. Referencing back to the earlier wish he made. Can't wait to see how the story continues, but for now, I suppose we'll have to put this book away

[@aetherialbeing4223]

I just wanna know what the black silhouette looks like

[@OZZYALY]

It probably looks like the half-and-half except that it’s a sleeker werehog that has both the powers it’s like 200% sonic 100% percent werehog 100% normal

[@gozenfrost1012]

It's seems to possibly be a hybrid form of Sonic and the Werehog, but unlike the mish mashed one from the White Space, it's more stable, my theory is that Sonic was able to achieve this because while in the White Space, neither Chip (no offense to Chip) nor Dark Gaia were able to interfere, as the White Space is beyond their reach, because of this, Sonic was able to properly focus and when he embraced the part of Dark Gaia within him rather than reject it like in the past, he was able to more properly utilize it and even combine it with his own powers. So it seems like by the time this what if catches up with the original story, rather than ridding himself of Dark Gaia's essence like he originally intended, he will gain independence from Dark Gaia, and the essence within will fully become a part of him, and Chip's Bracelet dimming out seems to be a sign that soon Chip won't need to watch over him anymore and that he knows that Sonic will be fine on his own. But hey, that's just a theory. A Sonic Theory! (Lol, I'm sorry)

[@OZZYALY]

Gozen Frost I respect your theory and I’m pretty sure that both our theory’s are correct but imagine how powerful it would be if sonic inbraced dark gaias power and use chips power he would litterally be gaia

[@segascourge]

*the mystery builds* 👀

[@aetherialbeing4223]

@@segascourge holy shit you responded

[@mushroomfusion245]

21:20 Eventually, Erazor Djinn stopped thinking.

[@RemLasher77]

That’s a JoJo reference.

[@totodile4271]

I can’t wait to see what classic Hyper super darkspine Excalibur ultra solar eco polar sonic looks like

[@rosanirodrigues557]

TOTODILE TAILS! GET INSIDE OF MY BODY!

[@rosanirodrigues557]

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[@segascourge]

DAMMIT, you figured out the form for Part 6!

[@joshuahecht6866]

@@segascourge Are you being serious? Or are you joking?

[@segascourge]

@@joshuahecht6866 yes

[@cofagrigusfan24]

i am more curious how Werehog vs The Deadly Six is gonna go since the Lost Hex is like 80% daylight also, when modern Eggman flew off, i imagened him saying "by guys, i am gonna search for the Lost Hex"

[@LittleLexi24]

nathan prins He’s stuck in his werehog form in daytime tho

[@reakirk7624]

I can't wait to see how Classic deals with his werehog form in Mania, or how Mighty, Ray, Classic Amy, and Classic Knuckles would react to it

[@_devitryi_]

I got to tell you, these stories are honestly some of the best I've heard in recent years; Keep it up! btw, when I saw my old artwork at 5:40, I did a double take and was quite surprised. It made my day, thank you.

[@Mindgame-ij4yu]

Can we give werehog a break in Forces, such as being able to resist the phantom ruby's energy through dark gaia's.

[@DarthMolgy]

I think they are going to pull a Hulk-Banner split on him - separating the werehog from Sonic (who just returns to the regular switching due to Classic) using the Phantom Ruby. The werehog might slowly grow more powerful as time goes on, until it becomes Neo Dark Gaia.

[@Mask_of_Vice]

Ooooo that was awesome! Two final bosses encountering each other (And bloody fusing) was a great treat! Can't wait to see where all this goes!

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

23:05 dark Gaia just wanted a friend

[@jonathanhowells7864]

Just saw some comments and I recommend continuing with Sonic's grief over his werehog form each chapter (game) with Lost World being depression and Forces being acceptance (but maybe figure out a way to switch from both forms at will by the ending of Forces)

[@davidalicea6705]

I love that videos of fake nose date because he is getting like the void music and after you feel like one alfalfa show me Sonic but we don't have the avatar I can't tell him Sonic. Namenda

[@Leekodot15]

@@davidalicea6705 How many drinks did you have when you made that?

[@kinglynerd]

My head cannon: Sonic never lost his werehog form. The stretchy arms stayed with him in his normal form. That's why in Smash Bros, Sonic's forward smash is long

[@olakeaseuzteht7128]

Theory: dark gaia is from the end dimention of Minecraft, is that the reason of why sonic's punchs send you to Minecraft...

[@bloosnoc]

@@olakeaseuzteht7128 lol

[@Le-Boyfriend]

I miss this What If, I really need to see it all.

[@koberegaspi4015]

You don't know how badly I wish that they would make these "What If" scenarios into real games... Sega Scourge, you have a gift...

[@chestermcall8095]

sega should make this series into 1 big game

[@212thtrooper2]

I just watched all 5 parts today and I have to say you've officially made me more excited for Sonic content than anything else has in a long time. You are extremely good at this!

[@segascourge]

Thanks a huge compliment, I really appreciate that! Glad my wacky stories are getting you hyped!

[@NiffirgkcaJ]

@@segascourge same thing here! I just binge watch all of the episodes, I hope I see more in the near future!

[@simple_spud7613]

What if Mighty and Ray appeared in Generations? It could start off like how Generations plays out normally, but with the Knuckleses (I don't know how it's written) When they encounter two zones from Knuckles Chaotix, with Mighty and Ray in a petrified state, but whichever one was found first would stay with the group until the other was found

[@cauaplays1331]

I'm not "The Sega Scourge", but I think I could do a guess anwser on this question... If you meant that they would be frozen on two Knuckles' Chaotix stages and then were saved by Classic and Modern Sonic, then they would encourage the Sonics with the other friends in the fight against the Time Eater. If they were the Classic Counterparts, they would simply return to the past with Classic Sonic and Classic Tails(making the events of Mania Plus proceed as normally, or they could additionaly help them on the events of 3 & Knuckles) Now If they were Modern, then they would introduce themselves to everyone on Sonic's Birthday Party and they would problably join the cast.(They could even become part of the Chaotix!)

[@guyonyoutube3850]

The 'I was too slow to save my buddy' line will be so much better now that Sonic has lost his speed.

[@silverluigi9792]

I do wonder. Will this be the final part, second to last, not even close to finishing? This part has me really anticipated.

[@hackerninjaexe5791]

I doubt it

[@hackerninjaexe5791]

I mean theres still Lost world

[@megamanfan52]

No forces

[@joshuasauceda7246]

Plus mania if he wants more classic werehog

[@maddogreaper3454]

No it’s not the last part.

[@AmateurAnimations65]

Personally I would've liked to see this what-if scenario reach into Sonic '06's story, I think that could make for some interesting turns. It could help explain Mephiles' reasoning for targeting Sonic specifically, as maybe he'd see the essence of Dark Gaia as a rival to combine with Iblis or something. It would also be a good reason for Silver to be so easily convinced that Sonic's the Iblis Trigger, as Mephiles could show "A monster that passes for a normal hedgehog in daylight" rather than just Sonic in a fiery background. There could be a misunderstanding, with Silver calling Sonic the one that destroys the world, so when he's thrown into the apocalyptic future, Sonic thinks this is the result of him losing control of Dark Gaia's energy. Perhaps it could even improve the most infamous part of '06's story, the relationship between Sonic and Elise. Elise could be an eye opener to Sonic that maybe the werehog isn't the worst thing that can happen to a person. Maybe seeing Sonic's predicament, Elise would sympathise that she also has a darkness she struggles to contain, and if she ever so much as cries that monster will come out and wreak havoc, and this news hits Sonic like a ton of bricks. As much as he hates the Werehog, at least he's more or less allowed to feel his emotions without going on a rampage, he couldn't imagine having to deal with this without being allowed to feel a certain way, and at least the werehog comes with a couple perks while there is absolutely nothing even remotely good about being stuck with Iblis. Elise on the other hand, would also feel bad for Sonic, who has to face his curse every single night, and this mutual understanding would lead to a shared respect between the two. Of course, the biggest problem with this suggestion is that 06 came out before unleashed so it technically isn't possible unless we bend the timeline a bit. To be fair, Sonic 06 has always had a wonky place in the timeline and is just weird enough about its continuity that it could be put after Unleashed without too much trouble, but still, it's easy to see why this suggestion would be problematic

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

This story seems hard but rewarding. So how does the story of lost world and forces going to play out when sonic being werehog 24/7? Is he going to find the cure or is he going to be stuck being werehog for all time? I can’t wait to find out.

[@reesecates8620]

I get the feeling that Sonic and Tails might finish up their research and back up half of it but then Eggman comes and ruins their research in some way before the story of Lost World happens so they need to redo the half of the research that was ruined DURING their adventure in the Lost Hex. I don't know if this might be the scenario that actually does happen though, this is just me guessing. But I would like to see something like this happen in the next video.

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

@@reesecates8620 That’s totally up to Scourge.

[@reesecates8620]

@@MDWolfe-ks5fu Indeed.

[@jariatubangura100]

Do what if sonic never lost is werehog form part 6

[@chestermcall8095]

@@jariatubangura100 that's what i cant wait for!!

[@SCrafter1234]

He did a double boost with dark Gaia. Also with the next game being lost World, parkour is just gonna be any spider man game and I love that idea

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

Its Dark Gaia

[@SCrafter1234]

Neptune Planeptune fixed

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 You can also spell it Dark Gaea, like I do.

[@alextalbain9269]

I really hope you continue this story at some point again. I enjoyed it so much and I really want to see how sonic handles being a werehog 24/7 in both forces and in frontiers, especially after revealing that new form.

[@segascourge]

Part 6 will come! And it'll be _Lost World_ before we get to Forces!

[@alextalbain9269]

@@segascourge I'm so happy to hear that! I love your videos, stories, and ideas, this one in particular and with you being gone for so long, I'm so happy werehog sonic is what your coming back with ^^

[@Aqua_Sol]

the idea of sonic staying in wearing regardless of time is rather interesting, I'm excited to see how sonic forces will play out because of this.

[@danieloberfelder9908]

What if Tikal was the last of her kind instead of Knuckles?

[@bluemario3429]

Yes but it would be weird because it would have to start at Sonic 3 and I'm not sure if she would trust Eggman

[@danieloberfelder9908]

@@bluemario3429 Sonc 3 is where the changes start to become apparent. I can see her not trusting either Eggman or Sonic as they are strangers to her.

[@coleminer8847]

Blue Mario but isn’t that the whole point of these what ifs

[@Supersonicblue1027]

@@danieloberfelder9908 well she might trust sonic because he looks like the person from the prophecy so she might make that connection between sonic and the prophecy and plus he doesn't seem like a bad guy you know so she'd probably at least trust him but definitely not Eggman because he just seems evil and she isn't stupid.

[@PlanetaKitare]

I Actually created this AU a while ago! :D :D It's called "THE LAST OF HER KIND", you can see the art on my Deviantart "Kitarehamakura" or my Twitter "KitareArtist". In my AU, Tikal doesn't trust Eggman but it's still suspicious about Sonic, after Tikal and Sonic defeat Eggman, she has a huge respect for Sonic because of his connection with the Chaos Emeralds and Sonic has a huge respect for Tikal since she is the guardian and does her duty very well. Tikal and Amy in this AU also are BFFs and she controls Magic instead of Chaos energy just like in SA2 and SA1.

[@enll6246]

Imagine how much trouble sonic will have in lost world, forces, team sonic racing, and Sonic FRONTIERS

[@castroedgar316]

I'm calling it, Sonic learns how to switch from normal to werehog form (and vice versa) at will some point in the future.

[@LittleLexi24]

Edgar Castro Maybe 🤔

[@liamschermer7901]

as I see it, there are 3 outcomes 1. Sonic is cured and loses the Werehog form 2. Sonic stays as the Werehog for the rest of his life but he comes to terms with it 3. like you said: he becomes master of day and night

[@joshuahecht6866]

Edgar Castro I am betting the second choice

[@joshuahecht6866]

liam schermer I am betting the second choice

[@nak8490]

@@liamschermer7901 Maybe the first outcome. As much as I like Werehog, it's driven by Dark Gaia's essence and Sonic wants to get rid of it for good.

[@Flashguy4826]

A bit of a bittersweet ending, but a wholesome one just the same. Very well done, mate!

[@rebeccahoneybone1447]

PLEASE CONTINUE THIS WHAT IF I LOVE IT

[@segascourge]

Soooon..

[@HollowHylian]

Time Eater and Alf-Wayla-la-Layla fusion? Well that's something I never thought I'd see. Darkspines Werehog though? Woo! Now that something I've always wanted to see!

[@splatterkingx6974]

Werehog Sonic in Sonic lost world has to be next! I can't wait to see what happens next in the part 6! I so want to see color powers again!

[@randomspider725]

I just binged on this What If story and it’s so good! A perfect balance of adventure and angst, just like the balance of day and night. Stupendous!

[@kevinsalmassy2323]

This is really good. I've literally watched almost all your What If videos in the last three days. All of them are fantastic to watch, even if I think for some of them pacing can be a minor issue. I know others have probably done the same and you might not see it, but here are a few suggestions for future theories: 1) I know a lot of people have been asking for a "What If Maria Lived Theory?" I understand the issue with this is that, even if Maria lived, she'd probably have died anyway due to her condition (even if the unrealistic cryogenic solution was used, the illness still would be an issue). That lead me to this theory: "What If Shadow Ended Up In Secret Rings In Place Of Sonic?" The differences would largely come in the form of altered character dynamics...until the ending. Shadow is a different character from Sonic, and would not take kindly to Shara betraying him. And with the power of an extra all-powerful wish...I have a feeling instead of bringing back Shara, Shadow wishes for Maria to come back to life instead. Therefore, moving forward, Maria would be alive post Secret Rings (potentially saved by the magical energies surrounding her revival and giving her a way to maybe assist the main cast). 2) This one might be more ambitious, but it's the idea of adding characters from spin-offs such as the comics or television shows. What If theories such as "What If Sonic Was A Prince or Had Siblings?" based on Underground, "What If The Freedom Fighters Existed In Main Continuity?" based on SATAM and Archie, and "What If Chris Was In The Games?" from Sonic X. Hopefully this gives you some good ideas, and if anyone else here reads this when scrolling through the comments, I'd be curious to see what directions you think any of these theories would go in.

[@C.Johnson9714]

OMG and here's me thinking that part 5 would mark the end of the Werehog what if, but once again you've surprised me. Really excited for Werehog Part 6 and the next what if video. Huge respect 👍🏻

[@segascourge]

Respect to you too 👊 Thanks for the heartfelt support

[@chestermcall8095]

@@segascourge your series is awesome and imagine if sega watched it and turned it into actual games!!!!!

[@silverluigi9792]

Love the twist at the end. I wonder how this will affect Lost World and Forces. Spoiler: (Also imagine if the Mario and Sonic Olympics were cannon and Sonic went into as the Werehog)

[@toainsully]

Don't forget Sonic Frontiers

[@eslemuel6962]

All of this what if storys are amazing and really interesting and entertaining. My favorite ones by far are the werehog what ifs. This would make a pretty intersting sonic tv show if u ask me tbh.

[@chestermcall8095]

it would make a good game series

[@bluemario3429]

Questions I know will not be answered (semi joke): 1. If Shadow (or Sliver) used Chaos Control with Sonic in white space would they turn into a werehog as well? 2. If Sonic didn't have Chip's ring would his other arm be Werehog or would he be full Werehog because Chip wouldn't have a way to influence him.

[@joshuahecht6866]

Blue Mario 1. No because they didn’t have Dark Gaia energy within them 2. The answer is either. Base on what you think. What I think is the full Werehog form forming.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@joshuahecht6866 Classic Sonic also did not have Dark Gaia Energie in him so yeah they would have bein infectet as well. Well...MAYBE. Shadow could be a diffrent case.

[@perrypro1263]

@@neptuneplaneptune3367 Shadow doesn't have black energy either. He answers to Emo Gaia, not the dark one.

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

@@perrypro1263 ....I think you completley misunderstand what wher talking about. The Dark Gaia Energie went into Classic when both Sonics yoused Chaos Controul. So regarldess who Sonic would have done the Chaos Controul with they would have bein effectet as well.

[@bluemario3429]

Yeah abit of dark Gaia’s energy was transferred to Classic Sonic. So Shadow or Sliver would mostly turn into Werehogs as well but they would not be on the same level as Sonic since it was only a small bit.

[@icedragon517]

This has got to be my favorite what if to come from Sega Scourge and I can’t wait for the continuation! Im also surprised you don’t have 10 times the amount of subscribers!

[@tcurtis345]

I’m excited to see how this story continues.

[@tcurtis345]

I'd be hyped to see the werehog in Sonic Lost World & Sonic Forces! I'd be happy to help make a story for part six & seven if they're not in the works yet.

[@wanderingshadow1372]

I hope you continue this particular What If? It's by far your best one, and I can't wait to see how the Werehog will tie into the battle on the Lost Hex, and the Resistance's struggle to take back the planet from the Eggman Empire.

[@BradyThorley]

Wow I can not wait for the next part of What If Sonic Never Lost The Werehog Form, all I can imagine is that Sonic being in his Werehog Form at day and night being all sad (which I saw other people's comments) and still being at Tail's house still trying to get back to normal and his friends comforting him as well. I can't wait for the next part where Sonic the Werehog versus The Deadly Six, where Sonic takes them on being in his Werehog Form and especially Zavok since he uses brute strength and especially Sonic The Werehog, all I can imagine is Sonic and Zavok are going to beat each down hardly with their brute strength. And at 23:47 I guessing this unknown form could possibly be a fusion form like Sonic's Hedgehog and Werehog have fused up together and he would still have his Hedgehog's and Werehog's powers or probably been combined together as well, I guessing this form will appeared again at the end in Sonic Lost World or Sonic Forces where Sonic would be no longer be Sonic The Hedgehog and Sonic The Werehog, he would become Sonic The Fusehog or most likely Sonic The Gaiahog.

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

Ha! Hedge Fast and Were Strong? What a wonderful idea. We could also call that Gaeanic (a portmanteau of Sonic and Gaea) or Gaea Sonic, a fusion of Mother Earth and Sonic the Hedgehog, or Infinity-Mr. Monster Guy as the coin stays at Were; it cannot go back to Hedge, even when the sun is out. Know what I'm saying?

[@sopersmosh5296]

THIS. IS. WAY. TOO. COOL! These concepts are really god tier keep up the good work.

[@imabratzgirl]

Thank you so much for creating this! This story is awesome! :)

[@segascourge]

Thank *you* for watching, bratz!

[@imabratzgirl]

@@segascourge You're welcome! :)

[@Iam_TG1]

This guys story telling is amazing I almost cried at the end

[@Tylerisawesome2]

Yes, continue the what if sonic never lost the werehog form series please

[@totallyhumanproductions1349]

15:05 Black Doom is sweating

[@hattoripool1533]

By the end of this what if series I bet sonic will be able to switch from his werehog form to his normal form at will

[@comicfan1324]

I’ve been re-watching these Werehog videos and I think I’ve noticed a running theme. It seems and each of these cases sonics friends seem to save him or at the very least being essential part to sonic saving the day. Whether it be Chip in the Unleashed story, Marlene and the Knights of the Roundtable in the Black Knight story, and all of sonic’s friends in both the Colors and Generations adaptions.

[@ElectricSparx]

Boy, that was a good second half to the Generations arc... I'm curious to see how things go from here noe

[@BlustreakG]

Throughout this whole journey of what if werehog, it all comes down to being a very sad story of Sonic finding ways to not lose himself against the werehog form. Classic Sonic is very charming, keeping his head up about the situation. No big deal to him, just something exciting and new, poor young bean.

[@segascourge]

Ikr! He's blissfully oblivious to the weight of Dark Gaia's curse-for now. This whole _"What If?"_ is one big snowballing mess of sad hedgehog hours.

[@primrosevale1995]

Honestly I'm just curious on if Scourge is gonna include Mania in this timeline, since post-Generations, Classic Sonic is in a separate timeline that connects with Modern's again through the Phantom Ruby. Also, since the IDW comics seem to be a continuation of Forces, will that be included as well? It would be interesting to see the Weredog to deal with the Metal Virus.

[@LittleLexi24]

Spike Dicholtomate I hope to get a Sonic Mania episode where Classic Sonic’s werehog changes something for the better or worse before he travels to Sonic Forces

[@segascourge]

Mania is being discussed! And IDW is actually on the table too, but nothing's concrete yet! 🔥

[@darksoultrey167]

Soooo Sonic is turning into a werewolf like creature and turning into a zombie like creature

[@YusufYusuf-ie_245]

@@segascourge imagine mephiles merged with infinite

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

*Werehog

[@tjzero0008]

That was awesome! I loved secret rings, and the climactic battle was certainly a highlight. I absolutely loved the darkspine werehog

[@segascourge]

Just cause I saw a few people asking, it's spelled "Alf Wamaratan" ✌

[@bradycicchini6994]

They fought Jafar

[@lisah147]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!! Also I love YOIR videos, they are so amazing! You can tell they have been given lots of love and dedication! So congrats to you! (I needed this information for my au of this video so I really am grateful! This one comment was needed more than you know!)

[@deontemayes4336]

I love this series sonics character arc is amazing having to deal with himself and life as a werehog

[@segascourge]

Thank you! I'm so glad you like the writing!

[@kagutohagate2079]

It Been two years and Still No part 6

[@TronicSSJ07]

I would love it if in the future, Werehog Sonic becomes evil either by using the phantom ruby in forces or something else. Knowing he can’t ever return to his original self, he accept the fact that he is a monster of pure evil. Quite a poetic to end this entire series.

[@jaycee65hithere65]

IT'S TIME... to save all of time... The gamble worked... but also failed. He's stuck.

[@crossfire34]

I think it's teasing a Darkspine Werehog.

[@jaycee65hithere65]

@@crossfire34 We'll see what happens, I suppose Personally, I think it's Dark Beast Werehog coming back since we don't know where the Seven Rings are, which could also depend on whether this takes place before, during or after Sonic's adventure in the game.

[@matthewwhite8202]

Will he become a super sonic 4 Basically Super Saiyan four

[@joshuahecht6866]

Jaycee65 HiThere Sonic shouldn’t have used the wish to seal Time Eater Erazor Djinn in the lamp forever because the magic lamp exploded, destroyed the second wish and the third wish remained nothing because he lamp is gone. If Sonic kept the lamp away Erazor and stopped himself from making the idiot wish, he would have still had the lamp with him in White Null Space.

[@jaycee65hithere65]

@@joshuahecht6866 I thought Erazor Djinn just destroyed the lamp with his almighty power

[@daltondakin5967]

Modern Sonic"No darkspine this time.". Later "Time for darkspine werehog!"

[@julioflores5433]

I know what Scourge would've wished for had he had the lamp: Forbid anyone to say Gemerl with a hard G pronunciation. x D

[@goldenboybenny7511]

He would wish he was not sonic or that all other sonics do not exist.

[@segascourge]

Welp, you're not wrong.

[@robensmonteau161]

@@segascourge I tried pronouncing it that way..... It hurt my ears.....

[@YusufYusuf-ie_245]

@@robensmonteau161 OMG it actually does

[@AustinAngelus723]

This was truely amazing and quite the somber ending I can't wait to see where these stories go next.

[@cob_capone1729]

Such a cliffhanger bro can we get a part six and so on because on your KZbin page it’s still says ongoing

[@edwheezer6231]

Yay, I'm actually here early for once! ^-^ Amazing work on this part! You keep throwing curveballs that completely floor me. I cannot wait to see what happens next! :D

[@segascourge]

Glad I can keep you hooked! And thank you! 🙌

[@imakegachaclubvideos6323]

What I'm most worried about for sonic is what he will turn into at night now that he's werehog during the day will he look more like the version of himself that he sees in his nightmares? And if he does will he be more violent. What will everyone else's reaction be?

[@LittleLexi24]

balthazar lee Oh no.... I don’t think of that....

[@segascourge]

It's uncertain at the moment, but it's safe to say that even if he *doesn't* change, his nightmares will probably get a LOT worse!

[@imakegachaclubvideos6323]

@@segascourge Now I really want to see what his monstrosity of a nightmare is gonna look like. I can't wait for the next video and to see where you'll take the story from here. If you have the time can you explore the story of these 2 what-ifs that have been sitting at the back of my mind? The first one is what if the chaos emeralds got bound to sonic when he transformed into super sonic for the first time and now he can't change back. The other what if I had in mind is what if super sonic made sonic go crazy like in the comics?

[@mr.vorrnyvorrn2516]

@@segascourge How about Werehog.exe? Or even The Super Warhog (Shadow as a Werehog), or Hyper Werehog, Hyper Warhog, and whatever you would call Silver's Werehog form. Any ideas?

[@sebastian20499]

Sonic being a werehog for day and night, that’s gonna be tough for him but knowing sonic he won’t let that stop him I’m sure his friends will help him one way or another. Thanks for uploading this video Sega Scourge, this is an amazing video, keep up the great work.

[@TRTMN-vs3ew]

So to sum it up: -Erazor Djinn is trapped in White Space (or Limbo, as I like to call it) forever. -Sonic is now trapped in Werehog form and can no longer sense Chip's presence. -Dark Gaia's powers within Sonic are now more powerful than ever, and the entity may soon use Sonic as a Proxy for its return. -(Update) Shara is dead now?

[@sebay4654]

Alternatively you could call it negitive space or the world that never was (kingdom hearts reference)

[@TRTMN-vs3ew]

@@sebay4654 Nice.

[@ArrowRinehart]

Bloody amazing, though Sonic is working through some serious difficulty. I can't help but feel sorry for him, though like Sonic, he keeps pushing forward!

[@reddwanjahir6364]

So Hyped for this!!!!

[@___8241]

Holy shit I didn't think you'd actually do darkspine werehog!(I was predicting it throughout the episode) That was INSANELY hype to see come to fruition. Amazing storytelling as always, Scourge.

[@segascourge]

Thank you, awesome viewer with a blank name! 💚

[@Enter_the_Toshiverse_1996]

This is freaking awesome! I wonder what'll happen next time, with the next Sonic game being "Sonic Lost World", who knows what'll happen to our blue hero now that he's permanently the werehog. I also wonder if this will carry over to Sonic Forces and even Sonic Boom, can you imagine what might happen? Man, am I hyped for this! 😃😃😃

[@chestermcall8095]

same here dude

[@DreaguiVII]

That's the first time in a long, that i was really into it! It was so well performed, everything was GREAT! for real, it's been a long time i haven't feel... i dont know how to explain it, but its AMAZING. SIMPLY NOTHING TO SAY MORE.

[@yugiohLeila]

I really like how the story is going so far. Having Dark Gaia in Classic Sonic will probably work. That could explain how to put Dark Super Sonic in the game world. Also it will be interesting if Classic Sonic becomes Modern Sonic in Sonic Forces but his story was played like the original game. How did that work? Maybe when Sonic escaped white space. I don't know? Plus I don't know where or when you will end this story so it's up to you.

[@mysteriousmask8847]

Your the only thing that gets me exited through the day when a video is up. Thank you.

[@segascourge]

Extremely kind of you, thank you 🥺

[@acergy9734]

Just gonna put down a what if I want to sort of see What if Dark Sonic and/or Fleetway Sonic was canon? I've seen some people comment about it and I feel like I would want to definitely see that what if.

[@Marbilou]

oh come on we need a part 6, its Been 2 years!

[@cryerboys4849]

You know you'd think shadow or silver would try to help m and c sonic when they arrived

[@mechagamer9744]

This was a amazing video, can’t wait for the next episode. I’m kinda curious about sonic forces, with the phantom ruby, would sonic or maybe dark Gia taking over actually try ripping the phantom ruby shard out of infinite’s chest to use it for himself. But anyways, I had a what if Kinda. What if sonic gained the dark super form in actual cannon, like maybe he got it after a event in Sonic adventure 2? Idk

[@rossjones8656]

now i wonder if the deadly six will try to bring sonic to there side after all sonic is a demon hedgehog now (i know werehog but it is a corruption of his normal from with what could be amounted as the devil himself)

[@zero_glitches6895]

10:28 “That looks like a homing shot!”

[@PlusUltraMan]

A comment to fuel the algorithm friend 👍🏿

[@segascourge]

Oh you 💚

[@AnonyBoiii]

I reckon that in White Space, sonic transformed into a pure fusion of the hedgehog and werehog forms when trying to break through time to get back to the present Not the half-and-half that negates his modern speed but keeps it above werehog, and negates his werehog strength but keeps it above modern. But a true fusion of the two forms, mixing the full speed of modern with the overwhelming strength of the werehog Why? It’s likely that the dark Gaia essence within modern sonic realised that they’d be trapped in White Space if sonic didn’t speed out, so it “cooperated” with sonic by giving him his modern speed while retaining the werehog strength and durability to make it through the time breaking and back into the present.