What If VEGETA unlocked SUPER SAIYAN BLUE EVOLUTION against GOKU BLACK? | Dragon Ball Super

What If Vegeta unlocked Super Saiyan Blue Evolution against Goku Black in the Future Trunks Arc?
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The Dragon Ball Super anime had backed itself into a corner before the Tournament of Power in terms of narrative and relative character power. While most of Dragon Ball Super tries to be about Goku and Vegeta being true rivals for the first time in the series - both at each other’s level of power after the Battle of Gods Arc - the anime writing staff decided to remove that nuance from the series by giving Goku the ability to stack Kaioken on top of his Super Saiyan Blue form. As if that wasn’t enough, they allowed him to multiply it up to 10 times - making the power gap between Goku and Vegeta a seemingly permanent one. To rectify this, they first made Goku seem idiotic by not using Kaioken at all in the Future Trunks Arc except for once against Merged Zamasu - when they realized that was equally poor writing quality they decided to power up Vegeta instead by giving him Super Saiyan Blue Evolution in the Tournament of Power and later confirmed it to be equal to Goku’s Kaioken times 20 Super Saiyan Blue. This leaves me with an interesting question. What if this fix came in earlier? What If Vegeta unlocked Super Saiyan Blue Evolution in the Future Trunks Arc?
After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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[@SuperSaiyan2Ethan]

Actually The Initial Normal Kaioken multiplier when Goku doesn't say times it's actually a times 1.5 multiplier power boost or 50% power boost increase both of them are the same so Goku's normal Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken power increase is by 1.5 times.

[@gleeflame9479]

You're so good at making what if

[@jesuscalzada2440]

Tylearn made this video

[@stainesplays8603]

Wouldn't Friday be revived after top since goku told him he would

[@mahir1874]

Carthu’s Dojo you got a new subscriber

[@Sword_Man_YT]

Vegeta is about to pummel Goku black even more than he already did lol

[@ssjsal2159]

Sword Man except he’s going to be punching holes into him lol

[@kaiserjahan3356]

Yea cause he turns over 20xstronger in ssjbe phase 2

[@watisyourfavblocinminecraf7422]

He is even going to pummel merged zamasu

[@mr.g6168]

Goku black confused me I didn’t know if he got stronger by taking damage or by learning how to use goku’s body and adapt

[@princegokukakarot4449]

ssj sal 215 yeah vegeta is about to “ get in that ass”

[@arnotric]

Vegeta turns ssjbe Goku black: *chuckles* I’m in danger.

[@nightmarecrimson9121]

Goku Black: I need an adult Vegeta: *I AM A ADULT!*

[@DanielMoulson]

Imagine goku goes ultra instinct doe 😂 Goku: turns ssjMUI Also goku: I’m about to end this whole mans career Goku black: ah shi

[@SleepingSoulK]

Goku: *Turn Mui* Vegeta: *Goes Evolution* Goku Black: "Hehe time to get a *REAL* Zenkai boost"

[@AndrewFlameiing]

tHATS how it goes usually

[@thetruesquad5059]

@@SleepingSoulK lol

[@Tylearn]

This what if is definitely one of my favorite Vegeta what if’s! Good shit man

[@jotarokujo_starplatinum5492]

👌👌👌

[@CarthusDojo]

Thanks king 👑

[@dairenoh693]

Ay, Tylearn!

[@azimwatts9808]

Tylearn my boi

[@bootybandit9245]

Tylearn a carthu fan??

[@superkamiguru6856]

He's blue daaaa baaa di daba die. Dende, sing it with me! He's blue da- naaaaaaaillll...

[@cereal9879]

Huh?

[@brandondman7128]

Rosé Black shut up mortal the gods are talking purple and blue are superior to pink

[@cereal9879]

@@brandondman7128 WTH

[@littledio9082]

@@brandondman7128 Shush Mortal.

[@littledio9082]

@@cereal9879 We are Divine.

[@jamainegardner4193]

4:40 - 4:50 its explicitly stated in the series that Merged Zamasu was in another league from Black. Goku only did so well in the beam clash because he used his own life energy to bolster his attack like Tien did vs Cell, and it cost him the use of his arms.

[@Yuki-qh9kg]

Statements in DB are very important (they explain power without base Goku accidentally destroying universe 7 for instance) however, if contradicted, feats> statements. So X2 blue being able to injure merged Zamasu pretty bad should mean blue evolution could definitely destroy him

[@shwingcrimson8202]

Yeah, although it makes zero sense for a x2 or even x20 being enough to beat a potara fusion, but feats are always greater than statements. Like if i say i can run 20 mph, but then i show my max is only 10 mph, then my max is 10 mph, not 20 like i said.

[@BKBK-yo1zz]

@@shwingcrimson8202 what is your max mph tho

[@bootybandit9245]

@@BKBK-yo1zz lmao

[@Naokarma]

@@BKBK-yo1zz My guess is 15

[@Midnight_Master-1]

What if the second Zamasu was Vegeta Black?

[@imrelobtw]

that'd be cool

[@robo-raven2157]

What if Zamasu got all of the other Zamasus from the other timelines to join him?

[@jotarokujo_starplatinum5492]

@@robo-raven2157 game over

[@tylernash8522]

Vegito black?

[@ashyxx14]

@@tylernash8522 aw man i though of saying this too but seems i'm not the only

[@kingkurok3149]

You know what I actually like ssbe, even more than I like ssb itself, maybe because I reminds me of Super Vegeta from the Cell saga, or that it just looks better than ssb as a whole, but yeah ssbe for the win

[@paulconstantine1311]

King Kurok I thought of that as well where he went grade 1 or something in the hyperbolic time chamber with further trunks

[@kingkurok3149]

@@paulconstantine1311 ssbe is the best for Vegeta could of gotten and I'm sad it wasn't utilized properly, seriously it's basically a stronger more stable ssb, that shit should've at least dented Jiren

[@UnexpectedWonder]

True. That's what it reminded me of.

[@theopulentone1573]

The pupils makes the form unique.

[@UnderZenith967]

@@UnexpectedWonder Same here

[@gangsterspongebob6020]

*Oh, Vegeta (SSGSS) Is evolving! *Congratulations! You're Vegeta (SSGSS) Evolved into Vegeta Blue Evolution!

[@obinoscopekenobi9450]

Its your

[@theepicgoosedude]

Or (SSGSSE)

[@islands_dragon]

imagine super saiyan god super saiyan evolution kaioken times twenty💀💀💀

[@Lyxis]

I love how whenever Vegeta gets a new transformation it's way more stronger than when Goku got it.

[@Persac7]

Goku never got ssbe

[@jamesheuer79]

​@@Persac7episode 132 lol

[@furiousgamerxz5141]

@@Persac7your right he didn’t

[@halfbreed1426]

I like that Broly made Goku much creative and even intelligent, while technically putting Vegeta on an even playing field. Given that SSBE is a transformation; it can be accessed voluntarily. Again, neither use their comparable transformations or techniques in the film itself.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

"Vegeta rinses Toppo with ease." 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣

[@shahirnewaz3661]

Bulma isnt happy about this

[@KaijuForceNeo]

I’ll be Rinsing my hands from the filth of that joke, now.

[@reitheinsolvable7380]

Why haven’t this aired yet, it’s already 12(when it’s airing in my country)

[@espresso387]

It’s done

[@reitheinsolvable7380]

I honestly only commented this because l had nothing to do while waiting lol

[@SaucZer]

Do a “What if Vegeta/Z-Fighters took android 19’s hands to Bulma after breaking them off” or “What if Whis went into the hyperbolic Time Chamber with Vegeta and Goku for a couple hours each before the T.O.P” 👀👀👀👀

[@Speedyhs]

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[@jamesheuer79]

He's almost at 1 Million now!

[@kaijusteven2081]

No one absolutely no one : Carthu: MAN HANDLE

[@legendarysuperkaiju7986]

Ye, why Not emphasize something so spectacular? XD

[@SB-xj8xj]

A good what if. It compliments Vegeta without compromising any of the other characters.

[@The800429]

"Super saiyan blue is evolving" *gets master ball* y e e s .

[@TreyisHeavyMetal]

Once again you’ve made a great what if💯

[@JustADemon2023]

Goku didn’t use Blue Kaio-ken because of what happened to him after his battle with Hit. King Kai explained that due to that battle, Goku couldn’t control his Ki simply because he tried something extremely risky he didn’t train with much with or master at that point in a battle of little consequences. After the ZMP Saga ended, Goku properly trained with Blue Kaio-ken and his body didn’t have to suffer any life threatening effects from it.

[@unsaidrumble1790]

Short answer: Make him as strong as the plot needs him ;D

[@anxofernandez3344]

Pretty cool. I think Jiren would leave kinda beat up most of the universe 7 warriors, but so long as the most powerful ones managed not to be thrown out, when Goku lost his UI state someone could give him some energy while the others fought Jiren. Even if he managed to eliminate every non Saiyan, I believe Goku would be able to turn Super Saiyan and keep the form, maybe Gohan and Vegeta too. Judging by how Frieza and Goku in his base form did against Jiren, Super Saiyan Goku should be enough, but perhaps Jiren could manage to hang in there and it'd take Gokiu and either Gohan or Vegeta together to throw him out even if they fell too. If the last man standing was Vegeta he'd ask for universe 6 to be revived, but that would not be enough and both universes would be erssed. If it was Gohan he'd ask for all universes to be revived. That would be a great outcome, all universes back, Gohan saved the situation eventually and Goku and Vegeta had to work together to win, which was one of Whis's goals.

[@idkman8849]

New Vid idea: What if Frieza becomes good after Tornament of Power?

[@The-Singularity-X01]

Lets take it a step further. What if Frieza was good from the start?

[@_4shy]

@@The-Singularity-X01 a lot of things would never happen

[@idkman8849]

@@The-Singularity-X01 whoa

[@BardockSkywalker]

No, Just, No

[@ZRE_EDITZ]

Then dbs broly wouldn’t happen

[@salamanderstudios5894]

The best amazes us again at what he does best, great job once more my brother.

[@astolfo2305]

what if super happen after gt about 4 month-year after goku leaves shenron

[@chancedudley1606]

Vegeta, Gohan, and Uub would be Earth's greatest defenders

[@raumlu]

Isn’t gt set like 5 years after z though and super is like right after

[@aintiwrong5201]

Raumlu nope Gt is 5 years after ending of z Super is right after buu which is 10y prior to the ending of z (cannonicaly)

[@raumlu]

Aint i Wrong? I assume you meant prior as in ten years after not 10 years before the ending of Z. I didn’t know that hmm I wonder why everyone looks so much younger 10 years later instead of 5 years hmm 🐉

[@aintiwrong5201]

Raumlu The ending of z is 10y after kid buus death Super is betwen those 10y and gt is 5y after the ending of z

[@ahmedmohammedjayantimochi6904]

Is there going to be a second Arc for this WHAT IF?? It was really interesting.

[@julien417]

Actually, Vegeta did send energy to the Genkidama. Between the two episode there was a small intermission on the japanese tv where you see that vegeta actually sent some of his energy

[@aurav4643]

Great vid ! I'd like to know what would happened if Gogeta came out against Zamasu instead of Vegeto ? How would that affect Vegeta during the following events ?

[@anothertrunks78]

WOW IT'S SO GOOD. I CAN TELL EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T AIRED

[@d5o1001]

May I say that SSB Evolved might be one of the coolest looking and has a great color pallet?

[@bisforberries7930]

I don't think Goku's character would allow him to lie. I believe he would do everything in his power to allow frieza to live again.

[@calvinkopp1735]

In the Anime, Goku did lie to Frieza when he told him he could revive him with Earth Dragon Balls when really, it can’t because Shenron can’t resurrect the same person twice. While the Manga makes it Goku just forgot the wish’s limitations.

[@calvinkopp1735]

So yeah, Frieza would be sent back to Hell since he was crucial at the end. It’s best that he stays dead so that Universe 7 would stay safe from his dangerous ambition.

[@peterstafford26]

0:51 I thought goku scarely used the kaioken in the goku black arc because after his fight with hit he had ki trouble and couldn't even fly , so he didn't want to risk that

[@peterstafford26]

And that his big secret he was gonna show off in the zen exhibition was that he had semi mastered using kaioken with ssb and with no affects other than stamina drain ?

[@memo1043]

5:25 I just love to imagine how it would go

[@tin_tamale]

It’s funny how vegeta still transforming while black just leave and has a small chat with zamasu and then they fuse

[@predatorlr5078]

What if bardock use the healing pod before he fought frieza or what if bardock convice the saiyans wait got some more what if cell was revied in the t.o.p. instead of frieza. what if android 16 was revived

[@manuturgoose1716]

Noor Abdi bruh what if they had afrieza as well as cell and 16 their team would be so sick there wouldn’t be tien, krillin, Roshi

[@Rqket]

@@manuturgoose1716 The team would contain 9 members. So you're missing 1 member. Think about something before you comment it. Frieza was already in the team, so nobody would have to leave for that, so if Cell and 16 come in the team, then only 2 people have to leave. 10-2=8, 8+2=10. 10-3=7, 7+2=9. Where's the tenth member, huh?

[@Rqket]

And before you ask "Why did you have to be a dick about it?" Because I have the right to be a dick about it.

[@manuturgoose1716]

Rocket buu I forgot to type it

[@orion6397]

16 cant be revived. He is a complete artificial being

[@ryanhd354]

So excited for this ur vids are the best

[@RakuraiNetwork]

AHHH, you're so close to 100K!!! Keep it up!

[@CarthusDojo]

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[@RakuraiNetwork]

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[@CarthusDojo]

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[@RakuraiNetwork]

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[@CarthusDojo]

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[@bluemew22]

>Goku refusing to use the Kaioken My brother in Christ, did you skip the episode he spent recovering from spraining his ki under the orders of Dr. Kaio after that first SSBKx10?

[@calvinkopp1735]

He did and still couldn’t used at least Blue Kaioken X3 to kill Goku Black.

[@bluemew22]

@@calvinkopp1735 point being, that entire episode established that using Kaioken Blue is dangerous and not something to be done lightly, just saying "nah fam he can spam that shit at ×20 now with no problem whatsoever" and giving him no hesitation in the ToP is a lesser standard of writing than his hesitance in the Black arc.

[@taijumasta]

friezas soldiers would still wish him back, they didnt know he returned during the tourn

[@calvinkopp1735]

Earth’s Dragon Balls can’t revive the same person twice and the Namekian Dragon Ball can only be used by the Namekians. So it’s ultimately up to Beerus.

[@bulidtool]

You need more subscribers

[@elomento9980]

I'm so early it didnt even come out yet.

[@nathanchao-lam8849]

Nice video

[@lloydnorval1989]

Dude, as much as vegito is my favourite fusion character in the whole thing (purely due to his badass vegeta side mixed with gokus playful side), gogeta black would be an interesting twist. Maybe in the far reaches of my crazy imagination, a version that time travels to the buu saga, tries to recruit Babidi and Buu, maybe becoming Majin Gogeta Black. Idk haha :P

[@Joe-h2l7l]

Everyone get ready for 100k subs for carthu

[@espresso387]

What if when goku faced beerus with his god form he transformed into blue mid fight due to his rage?

[@ibrahimnote2]

Beerus still destroys

[@espresso387]

@@ibrahimnote2 that's against the point

[@ibrahimnote2]

@@espresso387 whats the point then

[@espresso387]

@@ibrahimnote2 I suggested a what-if that's the point Goku doesn't have to beat beerus but he gets blue in a way that makes sense

[@ibrahimnote2]

@@espresso387 ohh that works

[@Sybry605]

Maybe vegeta could have gotten a version of kaioken from u6 that is orange?

[@KD-mh8kj]

Why use kaioken against Goku black when he would have just used it too and mastered it to a greater extent than goku

[@mr.g6168]

Yes

[@sheluvv_instant]

But at the same time they have the same body so there would still be that same strain

[@KD-mh8kj]

Goku black was able to evolve with gokus body and gain strength faster though. It took for Vegeta to go into the room of spirit and time to pass Goku black even though ss2 Goku and base Goku black were fighting equally

[@kaijikhristicus8123]

I think goku didn’t want to use kaioken because he didn’t know if it would truly end the fight. He didn’t want to risk all his power just in case something happens where he loses all his power and can’t fight anymore

[@mitchelwebb4631]

Hey carthu keep up the good work

[@ultravegito9497]

Instead of going SSBE what happens if he goes UE then what will be the gap between Goku black and UE Vegeta power

[@ashyxx14]

i don't know why but it feels like in your what-ifs you're realistic af.i don't mean it's a bad thing, but you just don't go even a little bit on the crazy side. Anyways you great content and i hope you continue .

[@nlc2566]

Nice video but I highly doubt vegeta alone could beat zamasu, zamasu was beating both goku and vegeta at the same time with ease and I’m pretty sure the only reason goku managed to damage zamasu was because he was surprised by what happened. And even if that wasn’t the case, zamasu managed to fight vegito for 10min that’s an incredible feat and it took 50 people including goku and vegeta to creat a spirit bomb that destroyed zamasus body. I doubt a 20x boost would be enough

[@sev9258]

I'm so ready for this

[@glennbriggs6490]

It's only just hit me that although many of gokus forms look cool, none of them capture the ferocity of when he went super Saiyan for the first time. Ultra instinct is the first form since that day where gokus gotten a chilling vibe About him, but he manages not just to display a whole different playing field of power, but this power shows ultimate control. With this form, goku's not just kicking ass, but he's running the show, completely in his element, & at peace with the powers at his fingertips. See, the reason I say this,vis because UI isn't just ebpower upgrade. Ehis basically ststes your body must be able to move and react of its own volition. Even in real life, it's been said that by training themselves to become of body, mind, and spirit whole, monks can do this too, & manipulate their energies and clear their minds of all distraction to perform feats of incredible strengths l, speed, reaction timing, and durability. Clarity would mean gpku is freebof all burdens, thus allowing for his sylu conscious to focus primarily on specific tasks instead of anything else goku would have on his mind. He'd be unhindered and his mind unclouded by distractions. Less processes in his mind would mean complete attention to the task at hand. Blue evolution doesn't really accomplish this, it's just another raw power upgrade, but if its name is to be taken literally, this should just basically replace normal ssjb for vegeta, as it's basically doing something akin to what super Saiyan grade 4 acvomplishes, only anything with god ki at this point is a major power drain, so he won't achieve this entirely, though stamina drain would still be about the same as ssjb, or slightly less.

[@malakyeblair6551]

I can't wait for this series

[@GreekBrothers.]

Dragonball super but vegeta is the main character

[@solaryoart685]

Good job 👍

[@BruhDale]

What if you were allowed to kill in the tournament of power

[@dripkuz]

Plus Jiren would probably kill everyone

[@astolfo2305]

and zeno no allowed 17 wish universes back this would make top much darker and better saga

[@Omega-jg4oq]

Well, It's will be death all over the place and Zeno won't be able to enjoy watching if the fights ends fast just by killing each other and he would even decide to destroy the universes

[@carcar7995]

I think you can imagine that perfectly.

[@hi__x]

Toppo Would Hakai alot of people

[@dankerbell]

i don't know if you remember but goku's body gets destroyed by doing blue kaio-ken the first time, to the point where he can't even fly in his base form, and after doing it he even says that he's going to put it back on the bench for a while, which is why he doesn't use it until fused zamasu makes him break his arms

[@tskaso]

Can you do a “What if Goku was in My Hero Academia”?

[@saltysnowboi]

That depends on which version lol, some versions can completely wash the MHAverse no difficulty. While other versions would make for an actually pretty interesting story. *Cough cough* _Teen Goku_ *cough cough*

[@tskaso]

SaltySnowboi if I’m honest goku would destroy everyone in the mha verse lol

[@duck3515]

The youtuber salad sayain did that

[@Romaneatschickenparm]

Everyone dies there you go

[@altafybrickbester]

Please do part 2 if you have time

[@S_Apologist]

So, basically, every arc going forward will be easier?

[@courtneyward7149]

Yep basically OP as usual smh

[@S_Apologist]

It wasn’t really ‘OP as usual’ but I digress

[@courtneyward7149]

@@S_Apologist not completely op, but less interesting or exciting which takes away from a good what if for me.

[@buckassnerd1906]

Not when Moro can absorb that energy!

[@S_Apologist]

True..

[@Androidrevv]

What's the name of carthus second channel? I'm trynna binge every video

[@valiensr1037]

I feel like the remnants of the Frieza Force would still be out there gathering new members and eventually come across Broly. Even if that doesn’t mean they’ll go right to Earth, he’d still be running around in space. Just my take though

[@overssb_tr5305]

Carthu pls Can you make the 'What ifs' similar to main timelines (at least do important things like technics, powers, transformations or movies) of course, if you can. İ love your videos

[@whydoesnoirehavenofriends600]

Well you see, when you said Beerus can’t kill immortals, it is true but people that are immortal but is weaker than Beerus can be destroyed by Hakai.

[@SeptimusNavyaHoran]

No. Anyone that has physical immortality granted by someone higher than Beerus can't be destroyed.

[@mohammadmahdi8580]

If kioken I know it’s not pronounced properly but if kiokken is a 2x multiplier is kiokken x2 a four times multiplier?

[@wess442]

What if Hit defeats Monako in the tournament between universe 6 and 7, therefore giving Champa the final Super Dragon Ball, and allowing him to wish for Universe 7's Earth to replace Universe 6's one. Would lead to a few changes in the story, Trunks returning to the past only to see the destroyed universe 6 earth (since it would've been swapped with universe 7) and would definitely be interesting to see what universe 6's team would look like in the ToP with the addition of all the Z warriors.

[@magentapurpleyap5566]

The thumbnail sums Black's reaction perfectly.

[@zisischartampilas6601]

if dragon balls didnt exist goku would be like jiren

[@arora105]

1st of all he will die in a fight against raditz

[@Steve-x6z7g]

bro would have died before super

[@rossbaker7400]

Here's a great idea for a what if that could or changed the cell games, what if during vegeta's 2nd year inside the time chamber he to a capsule that had a gravity chamber so he could train at 500 times gravity or more for a full year while he focuses on getting grade 4 super saiyan he can spend more time on the master of super saiyan as well as gain a higher power than in cannon with him training in tougher gravity.

[@chiahappiness231]

I think vegeta had his blue evolution in canon because of his secretly 6 months training if Goku discovered that vegeta was leaving he would have also blue evolution like vegeta

[@Omega-jg4oq]

No, vegeta achieved with the training and extreme rage, he cares about others and keep his promise , Goku does about his family but not as much as vegeta but he can't go to Blue Evolution if he didn't get that rage and the reason to fight

[@superpixelknight4706]

Blue evolution was a combination of pride, promise, and power

[@chiahappiness231]

@@Omega-jg4oq don't you know blue evolution is the same power level with goku's blue kaioken x 20 vegeta hadvblue evolution because he train with whis secretly for 6 months

[@Omega-jg4oq]

@@chiahappiness231 Blue Evolution is stronger than Blue Kaioken, Vegeta defeat Toppo God of destruction but goku blue kaioken didn't finish off Toppo at his base form, BE is kinda like Super Vegeta it's increase the strength and Ki blast, Goku can fight for long time but in the end even if he mastred, its just drains his health

[@MsMRkv]

+Will Buster Goku does have blue evolution in the manga, and in fact he unlocked that form before vegeta did in the top arc

[@cheeseracs4477]

Cool I missed the stream anyway cool video very epic gamer strats also I think blue kaioken is a good idea because why would beerus be so weak if he had been training with whis

[@kokujin-k8v]

What lf suggestion: Supreme Kai not holding back Gohan!

[@hassanbhatti2586]

no buu saga

[@hassanbhatti2586]

cuz Gohan would destroy them and they wouldn't of got the energy

[@kokujin-k8v]

Vegito not deactivating the barrier in buu many have done a topic similar to this but I want to see carthu's view on it

[@FinneyGames_BBG]

I subbed for a great vegeta concept

[@Nabbercus]

If SSB is a super Saiyan with God ki then SSBE is just a super Saiyan grade 2 with God ki🤔

[@kingcold7281]

More like ssj2 mssjb from manga is like full power ssj from cell saga

[@hunter-js9zc]

@@kingcold7281 nah it looks just like ssj grade 2 with blue hair

[@julianaoliphant5970]

No it's none of those

[@julianaoliphant5970]

The multiplier is much higher

[@16Demons]

I saw you on a live stream I was watching last week. Of philip defranco and that you sent a super chat xD

[@trapz7099]

Akira toriyama needs to focus on Vegeta.More people like his character

[@DaikhanYT]

200 subs left dude :)

[@LunarLux.0]

I am triggered by you saying “zamas” instead of “zamasu”

[@jakeolan1958]

Same

[@Thuazabi]

Yeah. It's technically correct based on how English vs Japanese works, but Zamasu sounds better to me than Zamas.

[@wildgun95]

@@Thuazabi no it's not, afterall it's Goku not Gok

[@N23_N]

​@@wildgun95Goku is Goku and Zamasu is Zamas

[@Relax_Rombey]

What is the 100k special gonna be

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Vegeta would've probably beaten Beerus, Frieza, Hit and Goku Black early

[@fizzyg9850]

He would probably have ultra instinct

[@lucasvalle5160]

Oh u dum dum

[@namekiangod7750]

3:42 are those characters from dokkan battle? The evolving vegeta and transforming goku black?

[@kaushaljaiswal6745]

6:45 I don't think goku after seeing the vegeta in blue evaluation form he will try using blue kaioken he will too try to achieve blue evaluation since it will put less strain in goku body this make sense since goku has not achieved ultra instinct yet in top of because of the energy gap between goku and jiren he might try putting kaioken in blue evaluation then he will achieve ultra instinct at top this is just my guess

[@aminemeskini9192]

well goku will actually revive frieza in this what if reasons: -frieza didn't dropped out -he supported goku well so i guess he will be revived and you know goku's personnality

[@calvinkopp1735]

No he won’t. True reasons: Frieza didn’t interfere in the Tournament that much. Frieza didn’t play his part of Jiren’s defeat. Earth’s Dragon Balls can’t revive the same person twice, that’s one of Shenron’s limitations. Since Frieza wasn’t the one to beat Jiren alongside Goku to win the Tournament, Beerus won’t order Whis to resurrect the Emperor and will go back to Hell.

[@aminemeskini9192]

@@calvinkopp1735 whis and beerus might revive him since he gave goku some of his energy, and then he might be killed by vegeta in the broly movie don't respond, i am very busy

[@calvinkopp1735]

@@aminemeskini9192 Let’s be realistic and pay attention to the end of Super. Whis specifically says that the only reason Beerus revives Frieza is because he teamed up with Goku to defeat Jiren at the end. Whis says and I quote; “You did a fine job at the end.” And so when think about it realistically and logically Frieza goes back to Hell.

[@sedtornado1178]

they didn't show him idiotic, Goku was having major side-effects because of stacking kaioken over blue, he couldn't have fought long enough with it

[@mikesayssike7020]

I honestly think that maybe Goku didn´t use the Kaoiken against Black because he knew that he could've also learned how to use it. A SSR Kaiokenx10 Black would have been very troublesome.

[@prestongarvey2599]

0:33 give it til the T.O.P, that number will go up by another 10

[@jojoplayz3008]

Bruh I'm sorry but I dont care what anyone says about Super Saiyan Blue Evolution, I love it.The darker blue hair and the way it makes his clothes darker looks so dope. Also the fact that it's literally his pride in others as well as himself and will to keep his word in a personified form is so cool to me.

[@LuffyWantsMeat01]

Uhh who you talking to?

[@jojoplayz3008]

@@LuffyWantsMeat01 bruh you’re two years late💀😭

[@jojoplayz3008]

@@LuffyWantsMeat01 also at the time of its release, I saw people saying the form wasn’t good, so all those people.

[@jojoplayz3008]

@@LuffyWantsMeat01 also at the time of its release, I saw people saying the form wasn’t good, so all those people.

[@anidiot4992]

Just realized, the god language used to speak to Super Shenron is just speaking backwards.

[@namure1504]

carthu i think this might be the first what if that is realistic

[@austingomez9630]

Find new channel look pretty cool so I subscribe can you do a golden oozaru please

[@austingomez9630]

Like the original Super Saiyan golden oozaru or Goku Vegeta golden oozaru, but please not do baby Vegeta going gold oozaru, I don't like those are wearing a vest and having an Elvis Presley hair it looks so horrible

[@davidrobinson2104]

I wonder what would happen if Vegeta went back in time to just before planet Vegeta was destroyed, killed Frieza and his army and took the throne.

[@DomInARK]

This is what I like to call “An ass whooping!” 😂 this is very interesting In terms of probability, this could have happened and I think that you were correct, ssb kk was the issue

[@ChristophelusPulps]

"What if the writing was consistent in the series?" and "What if characters didn't act like idiots for the plot to happen?" Akira Toriyama: We don't do that here.

[@zisischartampilas6601]

This is my favourite scenario

[@Pr0digyZRX]

Wonder if Goku will end up going blue evolution at any point. I doubt it... but it would be interesting to see where Vegeta ends up going to

[@sephlock4767]

What do you think about how that worked out?

[@CaptainJonathan]

I have the suspicion, Vegeta already unlocked Evolution in the Time Chamber. At the very least, I think he got a glimpse of it.

[@timlit9051]

I just imagine roshi saying this will be my final kamehahahaha wave and hitting jiren just for jiren to slap it way like it’s dust

[@zachstovall9774]

Goku didn't go kaioken cause he didn't want to fuck up his ki again

[@mohaden2601]

Can you make a video of what if goku was sent to beerus planet part 7