What if Yugoslavia Never Unified

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Italian Mapper 2

Italian Mapper 2

Күн бұрын

What if Serbia never unified the Slavic countries into Yugoslavia but instead they remained divided after World War 1 and throughout the 20th century
This video explores possible divisons and borders that could have been plausible in another timeline.
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@YugoslavForever
@YugoslavForever 2 ай бұрын
Romania wouldn't occupy Banat, or any part of Serbia for that matter. they literally stated "We will not take the the lands of our friends"
@Timoteiionescu
@Timoteiionescu Ай бұрын
True.Alternative senario,but the romanians are the same people
@ivankaraula222
@ivankaraula222 Ай бұрын
Jesus is only way to Heaven❤✝️🙂😊
@vickoslavkovic2593
@vickoslavkovic2593 Ай бұрын
​@@ivankaraula222Samo za katastrofalno isprane mozgove nesrećnih vernika.
@Constantine123k
@Constantine123k Ай бұрын
@@ivankaraula222 Real
@free_uyghuristan
@free_uyghuristan Ай бұрын
They would. They’d rather theirselves be given to romanians, their brothers away from tyranny done from the germans.
@jZi5523
@jZi5523 Ай бұрын
Totally unrealistic interpretation of key historical events: 1. Check the situation at the end of World War I (the territories controlled by the Serbian army and the demographic picture of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia at that time - the king was an idiot for accepting Yugoslavia, and they deserved the way their reign ended). 2. Bosnia didn't exist and certainly wouldn't have received any form of self-government, let alone a state at that time. 3. If it weren't for the communists, Serbia wouldn't have received autonomous provinces, there wouldn't have been forced migrations or confiscation of property in Kosovo, nor the prevention of the return of displaced persons (thus, secession and separation would never have happened). Watch the Czech documentary film that has beautifully documented all the evidence on this topic - " Uloupené Kosovo" by director Václav Dvořák and producer Aleš Bednář
@KardioIzletmetovic
@KardioIzletmetovic Ай бұрын
Bosnia didn't exist in 1918, it was a part of the state of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs just like Slovenia and Croatia
@dzeno2688
@dzeno2688 Ай бұрын
Existed before it
@KardioIzletmetovic
@KardioIzletmetovic Ай бұрын
@@dzeno2688 until the Ottomans maybe, but even that was shortlived since Croatia ruled over Bosnia until the ottomans arrived
@Vdst5244
@Vdst5244 Ай бұрын
Bosnia and Herz. was part of AustroHungary until 1918. Croatia didn' ruled with Bosnia before Ottomans. Croatia didn't existed since 1097. Croatia was part of Kingdom Hungary with hungarian kings rule
@medmiks6895
@medmiks6895 Ай бұрын
Jašta, a u 14 stoljeću. Za vrijeme kralja tvrtka pola dalmacije pod bosnom
@anasanja1214
@anasanja1214 Ай бұрын
​@@Vdst5244 Bro wth Nah Kingdoms of Croat Slavonia and Dalmatia were created in 857 and also one of most popular Crpatian kings ruled ower Croatia in that time also Bosnia and Serbia were created later
@manofarmageddon92
@manofarmageddon92 2 ай бұрын
If Yugoslavia didn't come into existence, then Greater Serbia would've been formed incorporating all Serbian lands (Bosnia, Montenegro and Krajina) which honestly is even better than Yugoslavia for everyone as Croatians wouldn't be crying for independence / federalization, Bosniac and Macedonian nationalities wouldn't have become widespread and the breakup of the 90s would've been avoided.
@br4te
@br4te 2 ай бұрын
cope
@RicoBanani
@RicoBanani 2 ай бұрын
Serbia would still have internal issues with albanians and croats... terrorism and guerilla warfare
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg 2 ай бұрын
On the contrary. If Serbia had rejected Yugoslavia, Serbia would have remained within the pre-war borders, and Yugoslavia would have been formed only without pre-war Serbia and Montenegro. Without Russian support, there is no Greater Serbia, and in 1918, Russia does not exist.
@manofarmageddon92
@manofarmageddon92 2 ай бұрын
@@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg Serbian declaration in 1916 set Serbia's war goal to be unification of all Serbian lands. Serbia would not have let Krajina and Bosnia go away (especially Bosnia) Edit: forgot to say, right before the end of the war, Croats really didn't want to unify into Yugoslavia until Krajina Serbs threatened that if they didn't they will simply break off and unify with Serbia.
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg
@NikolaIvanovic-pu7hg 2 ай бұрын
@@manofarmageddon92There was not any declaration in 1916. Unfortunately, when it comes to territorial expansion, small states do not have the right to vote. If America and Britain are against Greater Serbia (and they were), Greater Serbia can only be created if the Serbs have at least 2 great powers on their side. France would support Serbia. And Russia would do the same. But there is no Russia. Without Russia, there is no Greater Serbia. Simple.
@Shotgunner01
@Shotgunner01 Ай бұрын
If Yugoslavia wasn't created in 1918 there are several possible scenarios. 1. If we presume that Serbia and Montenegro continued to exist as separate states, and if both Serbia and Montenegro were awarded per London treaty, then Montenegro would gain Dubrovnik and parts of Herzegovina, perhaps Skadar (that's a big if) while Serbia would get the rest of Herzegovina, Bosnia, part of Dalmatia and Slavonia. Macedonia, Kosovo and Vojvodina would be recognized as territories of Serbia as well. 2. If Serbia and Montenegro decided to unite into single Serbian state and if we presume that Allies would allow to incorporate Montenegrin post war territorial rights then we have different picture. In that case Serbia would gain large part of Dalmatia, entire Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slavonia, Macedonia, Kosovo, Montenegro and Vojvodina would be considered Serbian territories. Now the big question is what would happen to Slovenes and Croats? Would they form separate states or some sort of united states between them? Would Slovenia and Croatia even exist or would their territories be incorporated into Austria and Hungary? Would Slovenia go to Austria (for historic reason) and Croatia to Hungary (for historic reason). What about other nationalities? Would there be a thing called Bosnian, Macedonian or Montenegrin or would they all be Serbs of three faiths - Orthodox, Catholics and Muslims - and all based on Shtokavian language which is basically Serbian. Those are all speculations and what if's. On my personal opinion I think Yugoslavia was the biggest mistake for Serbs after WW1 because that state didn't survive. It doesn't exist anymore therefore all the sacrifice of our ancestors is for nothing. Even Serbia without any gains is better than Yugoslavia.
@Skye_thegolden
@Skye_thegolden Ай бұрын
Bro no one cares, I ain’t reading that. Ur wasting time by typing that.
@Shotgunner01
@Shotgunner01 Ай бұрын
@@Skye_thegolden Ahahaha, you just wasted your time by replying. I don’t give a damn if you care or not.
@Skye_thegolden
@Skye_thegolden Ай бұрын
@@Shotgunner01 wasted* oh iwasted by time again
@lazarobrenic6829
@lazarobrenic6829 2 ай бұрын
What a stupod video, if there was no yugoslavia then entire bosnia and large parts of croatia would be Serbia plus Itali would gain much land in dalmacia. Google what was promised to Serbia in london 1915
@chemcheps
@chemcheps 2 ай бұрын
Then the Croats, bosniak will against it. And Serbia dream will fall...
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
That is correct!
@sikret4601
@sikret4601 22 күн бұрын
serbs wouldn't even have a pasaluk left because you didn't have the strength to defend your "country" either
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh 22 күн бұрын
@@sikret4601 We are all ( Croatia, Serbia, ect. ) small states, who doesn't got any strength to defend own countries. I know that! Problem is today that world belong just to huge giants, like the USA, Russia, China, India, ect. And, if you are not from these giants states, your country can't defend our self either. Because, even Germany, Italy, UK, France, ect. are too small European countries for that giants. Europa and EU doesn't got resources and one united politics about the most important staffs for European people and EU today. So, you probably are in trouble too. Except you are not from these powerful giants who today create European destiny, like the USA and Donald Trump. Be saluted!
@jonahshevtchenko7356
@jonahshevtchenko7356 2 ай бұрын
The video was good. I recommend you to read about the 1956 Budapest uprising to be more realistic in your alternative reality videos
@Romanball5677
@Romanball5677 2 ай бұрын
When is bro gonna upload a new video on his main channel
@Brandon-c6f
@Brandon-c6f 2 ай бұрын
Never
@tb_3172
@tb_3172 2 ай бұрын
Never he forgot ww2 ever happened 😨
@Skye_thegolden
@Skye_thegolden 2 ай бұрын
Never
@jayehenderson4186
@jayehenderson4186 2 ай бұрын
Never
@heligolandmapping
@heligolandmapping 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry he will soon... he says that whatever it is, is a surprise, just be patient man
@Glazay-5603
@Glazay-5603 2 ай бұрын
Mom: Hey son what are you listening to? Me: AUUUGHHHHH 🗣️ Hoi4.mp3
@dendul
@dendul Ай бұрын
Hey can you tell me the background music in the video
@Glazay-5603
@Glazay-5603 Ай бұрын
@@dendul I have no idea, sorry.
@LetnanBanjo
@LetnanBanjo 15 күн бұрын
​@@dendul The first music is, "The American Conquest : Rubilovka"
@dendul
@dendul 15 күн бұрын
@@LetnanBanjo thanks
@NotFresco
@NotFresco 2 ай бұрын
Good, i wanna see video about Danubian workers federation (Hungarian soviet rep.)
@nyx4592
@nyx4592 2 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about the Soviet Union fighting better in the civil war and not having the purges? Like managing to hold the front in Poland and help communist Hungary
@Vojkan796
@Vojkan796 2 ай бұрын
What an irony of fate... then our ancestors fought with their lives not to be part of "Europe"... and now they rush like geese in the fog to be part of "Europe".😢😢😢
@ФилипСимић
@ФилипСимић 2 ай бұрын
нека иду само ће најбољи да остану ми ћемо ко преци у планине да бежимо као велики Скендербег што је чинио
@Vojkan796
@Vojkan796 2 ай бұрын
@@ФилипСимић izgleda da će tako i biti... opet u chetovanjè.
@Official-IP
@Official-IP 2 ай бұрын
That sounds quite interesting and changes the corse of the war for example a Italo-Croatian war in 1938 and after the war a Bosnian-Serbian war in 1953.
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga 20 күн бұрын
*Bosnian-Serbian
@Official-IP
@Official-IP 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for my mistake
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga 19 күн бұрын
​@@Official-IPedit the comment then
@Official-IP
@Official-IP 19 күн бұрын
I fixed it.
@comrademayohasacheeseaddiction
@comrademayohasacheeseaddiction Ай бұрын
What is the map that you use and how can I use it?
@Tinola1212
@Tinola1212 Ай бұрын
What if Mussolini didint get elected What if Soviet union wasn't approved to join allies
@Parziti14
@Parziti14 2 ай бұрын
When bro is gonna to upload in the main channel
@Skye_thegolden
@Skye_thegolden 2 ай бұрын
Never h
@Пеђа-ж3ф
@Пеђа-ж3ф 28 күн бұрын
In addition to these borders that you mentioned from 1921, the Kingdom of Serbia, as a victorious power, would also receive Krajina, all of Bosnia, and would share the Adriatic with Italy. Croatia would remain within the borders around Zagreb, which are its natural borders. How lucky we are to have done that.
@sikret4601
@sikret4601 22 күн бұрын
you wouldn't even have a pasaluk left after the war, how weak you were lmao
@赤青白
@赤青白 Ай бұрын
It is impossible to accurately predict what kind of borders Serbia would've had today had Yugoslavia never happened. The country was promised great expansion to the west (Bosnia), already had Macedonia and recently annexed Montenegro. I don't think those borders would've held to this day. People think if Yugoslavia hadn't formed, there wouldn't be a civil war, but I don't think so. A Greater Serbia would still have to deal with revolt, mostly from Muslim minorities in Kosovo, Bosnia and western Macedonia. No one can say how the borders would be changed from that.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
It's easy to predict what territory of the Great Serbia were, if You-go- to Savia never existed. The borders would be like Šešelj and Milošević wanted, on the beginning of the 1990s. Thanks God, that was never happen and the State of SHS, the Kingdom of SHS, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and the NDH were created, in our timeline. If that would never be, than the borders like today will never existed. And, do not forget, that states were made by big powers who wanted to control the South Slavs. Like the Great Britain, France, Russia, the USSR, later USA, Israel, Germany and Italy. Be saluted and think! If that scenario was approved by big 4, after WW1, that borders would exist in our timeline. But, that was not approved. ✍
@ogisha2827
@ogisha2827 14 күн бұрын
Dobra predstava i ideja o alternativi da nije bilo Jugoslavije, s tim što još jednu stvar treba istaći kada je riječ o Srbiji koja je trebala biti formirana da se Kralj Aleksandar nije odlučio za Jugoslaviju. Pored revoltnih sukoba sa muslimanskim stanovništvom u Bosni i na Kosovu, kod Makedonije bi veliki problem pravili naši stari neprijatelji Bugari gotovo isto kao što Albanci danas prave sa Kosovom. Štaviše oni su i napali Srbiju tokom balkanskih ratova baš zbog Makedonije smatrajući da treba njima da pripadne. Veoma je upitno uzimajući u obzir to sve što si naveo šta bi usledilo tokom, a posebno posle drugog svjetskog rata. Ako bi se kao što je bilo kod Jugoslavije pojavio komunistički pokret koji bi vodio otpor protiv okupacije i prevladao nad drugim pokretima (a sigurno bi znajući kakav je uticaj tada imao SSSR u Evropi pa i svijetu i činjenica da svaka zemlja u koju je njihova čizma kročila je imala komunističko uređenje sve do Berlina) da bi njihov pokret pobijedio i da bi uspostavili socijalističku republiku koju bi podjelili kao što su i Rusiju (ne zaboravimo da se Rusija do dolaska boljševika protezala gotovo do mađarske) na socijalističku republiku Bosnu, Makedoniju, Crnu Goru, potom autonomne pokrajine i stvar bi se svela na bukvalno isto kao što je bilo sa Jugom. Tako da ako malo pogledamo stvari ni ta ideja o proširenju granica Srbije kao zemlje pobjednice u 1. svjetskom ratu na kraju opet propada prvenstveno zbog različitih geopolitičkih prilika u svijetu (tu se misli na dominaciju komunizma) kao eksternih faktora a i unutrašnjih pobuna protiv te države. Na ovakav sličan način je prošla i Austrougarska... Jednostavno države različitim etnicitetima i religijama teško da mogu opstati, pogotovo ako su interesi suprotstavljeni (bilo nacionalni ili religijski) što je pogotovo bio slučaj sa Jugoslavijom.
@XZelectro
@XZelectro 21 күн бұрын
Serbia has no chance of taking even part of Bosnia look at the 90s Almost Unarmed Militias vs JNA
@Open__56
@Open__56 2 ай бұрын
Its rlly unlikely for the slavs to not unite into atleast some small Union, but even if they stay disunited the new Slovenian and Croatian, Bosnian states would be very weak militarly and economically so would obviously be in threat of being conquered again so they would have probably strong movements for union and which the Axis might support. But that's just my opinion
@Suharekë_edits
@Suharekë_edits 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think really that Croatia is with economy weaker than Serbia even the richest country during the Yugoslav times was Croatia.In my Opinion Croatia carries Yugo with Economy with Slovenia
@Open__56
@Open__56 2 ай бұрын
@@Suharekë_edits Alr 👍
@piment0_420
@piment0_420 2 ай бұрын
exactly ​@@Suharekë_edits
@Fill39
@Fill39 2 ай бұрын
The way I can see something like this happening is if Croatia and Serbia remain separate. As in, Slovenia and Croatia unite with either half of Bosnia with croat majority or the entirety of it. And Serbia uniting with Montenegro and (assuming Croatia doesn’t get all of Bosnia) the Serbs would get Bosnian and Serbian majority areas with some corrections to the border. This way there are now 3 south Slavic states, the Slovenian Croat union, Serbia Montenegro and Bulgaria.
@makiendzoua8390
@makiendzoua8390 2 ай бұрын
​@@Suharekë_edits Depends which period of Yugoslavia you're talking about. Parts of Serbia and Macedonia were far more developed under Kingdom than under Communism. Croatia got rich mainly because of tourism. Dalmatia (the richest part of Croatia today) was the poorest because the land there is not good for agriculture and it had many famines historically.
@ognjenkuzeljevic1989
@ognjenkuzeljevic1989 2 ай бұрын
Quality is awesome but sadly this has no historical or ethnical accuracy , most yugoslav movements , if you look at the rebel map, align with the areas where serbs lived under the puppet state of croatia. Idk why but people decided these modern communist borders decide who lives where. Those were made so serbs dont have major power in yugoslavia, so making a no yugoslavia alt scenario would either result in those going to serbia, or the ww2 axis win scenario where croatia keeps the puppet borders. Only scenario in which bosnia looks like a dorito and is a stew of different ethnicities is the yugoslav partisan victory and formation of yugoslavia.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
And, you telling me that Croats today doesn't live in modern puppet state of Serbia? Serbia is so huge puppet state of Russia. It was ever been and would ever be. You just want our territories, in Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Sandžak and Metohija, East Srijem, ect. That territories, except Sandžak and Metohija were never been parts of Serbian Kingdom and Empire, during the Middle ages. That is just a bullshit and lies. PS: Last 3 You-go-to Savia were just a big Serbia. Not an international free states united under Serbia+Belgrade=Hungarian the Middle age fort on river Danube. Belgrade become a capital of Serbia no before 1878. It was never be before in any past since that timeline. Be saluted from Independent Croatia!
@RonaldGrant-l7n
@RonaldGrant-l7n Ай бұрын
Next do what if Weimar Republic survived
@bocci103
@bocci103 2 ай бұрын
STEP ONE: do not go to the balkans
@NPC_Leader72
@NPC_Leader72 2 ай бұрын
I live there, it's not dangerous as people think it is.
@chemcheps
@chemcheps 2 ай бұрын
STEP TWO: stop playing heart of iron and delete it
@赤青白
@赤青白 Ай бұрын
yeah, don't. Don't come here, we're fine without you.
@Markuse82
@Markuse82 2 ай бұрын
Great music
@minusclub1
@minusclub1 2 ай бұрын
how do you make the provinces 🙏🙏
@Open__56
@Open__56 2 ай бұрын
Using the province maps of the time as reference I think
@drazenborsi4283
@drazenborsi4283 Ай бұрын
Union between Croatia and Bosnia is more realistic, while Serbia gets partitioned between Hungary and Bulgaria leaving Serbia in borders before 1st bslkan war.
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 Ай бұрын
SHOULD SHOW THE ENTIRE HUNGARIES TERRITORY AS STARTED IN 1000 AC . Etc...
@Therealgigachad785
@Therealgigachad785 16 сағат бұрын
Apparently no one here understands the meaning of "WHAT IF"
@UkiticaEdit
@UkiticaEdit Ай бұрын
Name app???
@XZelectro
@XZelectro 21 күн бұрын
Inaccurate
@ivankaraula222
@ivankaraula222 Ай бұрын
Jesus is only way to Heaven❤✝️🙂
@bananamanduh3171
@bananamanduh3171 11 күн бұрын
what
@ivankaraula222
@ivankaraula222 11 күн бұрын
@@bananamanduh3171 We can be saved only through Jesus God bless you✝️❤️🫡
@The123adis
@The123adis 10 күн бұрын
Kamala Harris: "oh you guys are at the wrong rally"
@Singularpoint_Godzillafd
@Singularpoint_Godzillafd 2 ай бұрын
Name app
@gentreshtani826
@gentreshtani826 26 күн бұрын
If there was no Yugoslavia, Kosova would've become independent and joined Albania back in the 40's. Albanian partisans were foolish enough to believe politics, they died in faraway battles in Serbia, Croatia and even Slovenia. Anyhow, peace and liberty to all. F* war!
@nenadkrstic6087
@nenadkrstic6087 Ай бұрын
The whole premise is wrong, the map implies that somehow Slovenia, Bosnia and Croatia had defined borders prior to 1918, and that they joined Serbia and Montenegro who were in fact independent countries at the time. Loss of world war one led to break up off Austria Hungary, and Serbia got to create Kingdom of Serbs Croats as Slovenes as a reward for being one of the winning sides. The kingdom was later renamed to Kingdom of Yugoslavia again with Serbian monarchy at the helm.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
That is all correct, Nenad Krstić. Somebody don't know history of Yugoslavia and the Slavic nations, during last more than 200 years. Be saluted! 👌👍🤝✍
@janpetrucci9106
@janpetrucci9106 Ай бұрын
What game is that?
@ivanpralija9004
@ivanpralija9004 Ай бұрын
We would then been demokracy for 80years , more.advanced 2x then now and it would be small but great state.now we are doing good but history for was tough for us Croats😁
@Miculjka
@Miculjka 19 күн бұрын
Damn you people are delusional, both the Serbs and the Italians in the comments
@crosby817
@crosby817 17 күн бұрын
Bosnia would probably too be Serbian or split between Croats and Serbs
@TheMacedonianMappers
@TheMacedonianMappers 28 күн бұрын
I love the part where Macedonia was there 😐
@andreytsyganov7321
@andreytsyganov7321 2 ай бұрын
3:40 Firstly, the Republika Srpska only emerged in 1992. Secondly, the Republika Srpska cannot have any other parts except Serbian ones.
@roblogez
@roblogez Ай бұрын
republika srpska at its peak occupied more that serb majority lands
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
That is so fuc....ing correct! Be saluted! You got brain, my friend! 👏👌👍✍
@LukkiSkywalker
@LukkiSkywalker Ай бұрын
Strong spaghetti influence on worlds history😂😂😂
@vickvickson4273
@vickvickson4273 Ай бұрын
You who made this totally unnecessary and wrong science fiction, should have educated yourself. First of all and most important - about Treaty of London (from 1915). According to it, the territorial promises to Serbia and Italy at the expense of Austria Hungary were big and very clear.
@LauraCarree-n8p
@LauraCarree-n8p 2 ай бұрын
Next can you do what if napoleon france won the 7 days war or usa joined the central powers
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
You mean Napoleon win 100 days war? And the USA and the Zionists join to Germany and Austria-Hungary, in WW1? It never happen! That is a bullshit!
@LaserKiwi25
@LaserKiwi25 2 ай бұрын
What if albainia formed yugoslavia
@SerbGeo2024EDITS
@SerbGeo2024EDITS 2 ай бұрын
That was not aible to happend
@Weeboslav
@Weeboslav 2 ай бұрын
Few things to note: Serbia would definitely fight Croatia over Bosnia due to Serbs being relative majority of pre WW2 population of Bosnia,and Croats having minority population there,at best case,splitting it in half. Also parts of Croatia where Serbs use to be relative majority. Bay of Kotor and Sremiya is another parts where Serbia and Croatia would fight over... Italy would get Dalmatia,maybe... Croatia will definitely be on side of Axis in WW2,but probably not as it was in our reality,a genocidal puppet state that only wishes to annex territory it lost to Serbia(Bosnia and Sremiya). Serbia would fall under the Iron Curtain due to being too weak to resist the Red Army,unlike in our reality,where Yugoslavia was strong enough to oppose USSR(even the west). Meaning that Serbia would end up even weaker and more economically rect than it is in our reality. One thing is for sure,it would be strongly against Russia in this reality,similarly to other former Iron Curtain countries. From this reality,Albania would not end up isolated and with godzillion bunkers due to USSR having access to the country,unlike in our reality,Albania was "shielded" by the Yugoslavia... Croatia and Slovenia will become western allies but a bit shorter than they are today(Slovenia may be landlocked and Croatia will not have Istria,Rijeka and Dalmatia) As for Slovenia,it may enter union with Croatia(as it did in our reality)if so,they probably would never split up due to Croatia having coastline. Also,in this case Croatian language would definitely be way different than Serbian,similarly how Slovenian is different to both Serbian and Croatian today. Wars of 90's would never happen(which is actually really good)
@Canadzija
@Canadzija Ай бұрын
Croatia wouldn't be in Axis since there won't be Ustase. Main reason why Ustase existed is Yugoslavia since they wanted Independent state of Croatia which was already granted in the video. Maybe they would exist and hold meetinings in Hungary (just like they did in real life Italy) working against Italians and then take control over Croatia.
@RicoBanani
@RicoBanani 2 ай бұрын
Bosnia turning fascist is highly unlikely
@chemcheps
@chemcheps 2 ай бұрын
some fact: Ante Pavelic, the leader of NDH and Ustasa was born in Bosnia. :)
@dole7959
@dole7959 Ай бұрын
​​@@chemchepsby chance, his parents came to live there to work from a village called Krivi put near Senj, Croatia
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
Bosnia is real Croatian land. Not Serbian! Name come from river Bosnia and that land was before the Ottoman invasion, in 1463, a Catholic part of Europa. Not Orthodox one! And, there were lived Croats before the Turks. The Bosniac ethnicity not exist. It's never been real! That is a bullshit! Bosnia was founded from migrated Croats to Bosnian hills and mountains, in 12th century, after Croatian defeat of Hungarians on Petrova gora, in 1097. They made Bosnian Kingdom, because they doesn't wanted the Union with Hungary, in 1102. Technically, that was the newest Croatian Kingdom, after the fall of the Kingdom of Croats, under the Hungarian Dynasty Arpadović. All other history of Bosnia today is false or just a bullshit. Today Bosnian Muslims are really converted Croats to Islam, in 15th and 16th century. And, Bosnian Serbs are just Croats who lost own identity, after they converted on Orthodox Christianity, under the Turks, in 16th and 17th century. With help of corrupt Serbian Orthodox Church and the Turks! Simple as that! Be saluted and people, you doesn't believe in some huge bullshits, and lies. It is all obvious there. If people, one day, take that, than it would be no wars between Croats and Serbs in Bosnia. Nevermore!
@SerbGeo2024EDITS
@SerbGeo2024EDITS 2 ай бұрын
Perfect Serbia for me
@weplaygames1836
@weplaygames1836 2 ай бұрын
The 1:30 Serbia is awesome. I love it too. In fact, that is how Serbia should look like, because the rest is Kosovo and Vojvodina
@aurelije
@aurelije 2 ай бұрын
​@@weplaygames1836but also Slavonia and Dalmatia are not Croatia
@chemcheps
@chemcheps Ай бұрын
If Vojvodina & Kosovo ceded from Serbia, then Slavonija, Dubrovnik & Croatian Dalmatia Secessed too
@JustaHappyMouse69
@JustaHappyMouse69 Ай бұрын
True
@JustaHappyMouse69
@JustaHappyMouse69 Ай бұрын
​@@weplaygames1836hypocrite
@929W
@929W Ай бұрын
Međimurje has no Slovenians it would end up in Croatia
@ivanbura8659
@ivanbura8659 18 күн бұрын
BS... Just shows total incompetence about Ex-Yugo and Balkans...
@Onaj_Posranac
@Onaj_Posranac Ай бұрын
Wrong, after the break up if austria-hungary, in the south slavic lands was the Country of Slovenes Croats and Serbs(preaty much greater croatia)
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
Da li znaš koja je bila najveća slavenska država, ovih prostora, prije Jugoslavije? Austro-Ugarska! Imala je 51 milijun stanovnika ( 1910. ), 60 % su bili Slaveni ( ne svi nužno Južni ) i imala je površinu, od čak 676 615 kvadratnih kilometara. To je bila zemlja veća i od današnje Ukrajine, Francuske, a kamo li od male i posrane Jugoslavije. Bila je tada šesta industrijska sila svijeta, te peta vojna u Europi i svijetu. Ma kakve Jugoslavije, Kraljevine Hrvata ili Dušanovo Carstvo. Čak niti Bugarsko Carstvo nije nikada naraslo do te veličine. Samo je Rusko Carstvo bilo veće, a i ono nije nikada bilo ni do koljena našoj Monarhiji, čijeg su Prijestolonasljednika ubili Srbi i Rusi, u Sarajevu, 28. Lipnja, 1914. I, izazvali 1. Svjetski rat i svoju vlastitu nesreću. Počivaj u miru, naš ljubljeni Frane Ferdinandu Habsburg - Lotringenu. Bio bi dobar Car da ga banda nije umorila, te nesretne 1914. godine. Sramite se sluge ruskog pan-slavizma i tuđih čizama, koje ste služili, od pada Galipolja i Carigrada pod Turke, pa sve do današnjih dana, onih sila koje žele zagospodariti nad Europom i na Balkanu. Pozdrav!
@attilatasciko4817
@attilatasciko4817 Ай бұрын
FAKE ! WHERE IS THE " YUGOSLAV WAR " MID 90'S ‽
@dekijurko
@dekijurko 2 ай бұрын
Croatia split between Italy, Serbia, and hungary is more realistic just, and Bosnia to Serbia.
@JustaHappyMouse69
@JustaHappyMouse69 Ай бұрын
Agreed
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
Is not realistic! You just want that! It will never to be! What if Serbia would be split, on Split Conference, 2054, between Hungary, Croatia, Monte Negro, Albania and Bulgaria?! It's more realistic than anything on the Balkan.😂
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
@@JustaHappyMouse69 Not agreed! 🤟👎💣
@dekijurko
@dekijurko Ай бұрын
@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Brate, govorim o 1918. Godini.. živim u hrvatskoj i učio sam Hrvatsku povijest i jasno je da je Srbija pobjednica u ratu kao i Italija kojoj je obećana dalmacija, a da pritom Hrvati nisu imali vojsku da uspostave neku svoju nezavisnu državu pa im je Srbija dobro došla kako Talijani i Srbi ne bi uzeli sve ono što im je obećano.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Ай бұрын
@@dekijurko To stoji! Hrvati su, poput Slovenaca, bili na strani poraženih, u 1. Svjetskom ratu. Da nisu ujedinjene, 1. Decembra, 1918., novoproglašena ( 29.10.1918. ) Država SHS i Kraljevina Srbija, sa još Kraljevinom Crnom Gorom, onda bi Talijani uzeli sve ono što im je Londonskim tajnim ugovorom, iz 1915., obećano. Također, Kraljevina Srbija bi uzela po modelu Velike Srbije cijelu BiH, 80% današnje Hrvatske, dok bi Mađari sačuvali više teritorija, poput Baranje, možda i Južne Mađarske ( Vojvodina ), te Međimurje, sa Čakovcem. Stvaranje Kraljevine SHS išlo je na ruku i Slovencima, jer su od Austrijanaca izgubili samo Korušku, te sjeverni dio Štajerske. Ostale su im bivše austrijske pokrajine Kranjska i dio Goriške. Iako su im veći dio ipak uzeli Talijani sa Trstom i sjevernom Istrom. Zbog velike blizine tada već bivše fronte na Soči, u mojoj se Istri nije održala proglašena vlast nove Države SHS. Pa su nas Talijani okupirali već prvih dana Novembra, 1918., nakon Austrijske Kapitulacije ( 03.11.1918. ), te ekspresno anektirali. To im je odmah priznato na Mirovnoj konferenciji, u Parizu, već 1919., skupa sa dijelom zapadnog Kvarnera, Rijekom, te Zadrom i Lastovom. Na kraju, zahvaljujući novoj i ujedinjenoj Kraljevini SHS, Talijani su dobili puno manje, zbog prisustva Srpske vojske u Dalmaciji, Lici i u Crnoj Gori, te kod Dubrovnika. Danas, hrvatski nacionalisti to nerado priznaju, no to su povijesne činjenice. Jer, to je riješeni misterij zašto Talijani nisu 1919. dobili sve obećano na Jadranu, a onda su zbog te frustracije izabrali podržati Benita Mussolinija, koji je onda čak prešao na stranu Hitlera i Njemačke. Pozdrav i mislim da se oko ovoga obojica slažemo!
@jankramar6727
@jankramar6727 Ай бұрын
why is Međimurje slovenian 4:16
@ILikeHistory1444
@ILikeHistory1444 Ай бұрын
Qhat would nake slovenian psrtisans able to reach trieste
@grandma77.
@grandma77. Ай бұрын
Slovenia wouldnt give Istria to Croatia
@MiljenkoStarac
@MiljenkoStarac 18 күн бұрын
You fucking idiot, Slowenia is the last shit hole in this region, it's not Europe and it's not Balkan, its just nothing : who do you think you are to "give" something to someone? Croatia is at least 10 times more powerful than you, lstra je bila nasa I bit ce uvijek nasa !! Ne zajebavajte se s Hrvatskom!
@blueguns15000
@blueguns15000 2 ай бұрын
i require this map
@OropherIsilra
@OropherIsilra Ай бұрын
Fak yugoslavia. Finaly Serbia without all those who would not have states without Serbia.
@kampovanje
@kampovanje 12 күн бұрын
So amareur
@Plovdiv.Mapper
@Plovdiv.Mapper 2 ай бұрын
Not first
@Iter_fire_guy
@Iter_fire_guy 23 күн бұрын
lor
Ай бұрын
What a load of bullshit...
@tarikmehmedika2754
@tarikmehmedika2754 Ай бұрын
Gorss
@CopikaCopovic
@CopikaCopovic 2 ай бұрын
Wrong
@AleksandarJovanovic-on6cj
@AleksandarJovanovic-on6cj Ай бұрын
They killed the best country in Europe😡
@DamirB-jo1pz
@DamirB-jo1pz 28 күн бұрын
Why are making a video,how do you want it to be,are you miserable.Who will make your dreams come true Stevice?
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga 20 күн бұрын
If it was so great why did it collapse?
@МилошВекић
@МилошВекић Ай бұрын
😂 лупост невиђена😂
@ZorobelusRex
@ZorobelusRex Ай бұрын
Bla bla bla 😂😂😂
@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъ
@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъ Ай бұрын
Croatia is not exist in this time dude.
@jonomobono3223
@jonomobono3223 Ай бұрын
Croatia is much older then serbia
@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъ
@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъ Ай бұрын
@@jonomobono3223 But not exist in this time whatever.
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga
@RepublicOfDixionconderoga 20 күн бұрын
This is althist
@DamirB-jo1pz
@DamirB-jo1pz 20 күн бұрын
@@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъ Od kad vi obožavate pisati engleski?Što ne pišeš ruski?
@MiljenkoStarac
@MiljenkoStarac 18 күн бұрын
​@@ИлијаЈовановић-з7ъAko vec pises na engleskom bar ga nauci propisno! Pises ko nepismena seljacina!
@historybalkans-dq5ig
@historybalkans-dq5ig Ай бұрын
Bla bla bla. Srijem je 1922 bio HRVATSKI
@oremikalacki8971
@oremikalacki8971 2 ай бұрын
Wrong
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