What Is A Domestique? How Do Teams Use Their Riders?

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@dansawyer1199
@dansawyer1199 8 жыл бұрын
I love that the section about domestiques keeping the leader's morale up and having a close relationship with him shows lots of pictures of Froome and Wiggins at the 2012 Tour!
@geuros
@geuros 3 жыл бұрын
It worked didn't it haha
@MagliaNera
@MagliaNera 10 жыл бұрын
In Japan, Domestique called “Assist”. Leader is “Ace”. I think that is derived from tactical word of airplane fight.
@veganbonnie
@veganbonnie 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Domestiques deserve more credit than they get from the cycling media.
@ClockCutter
@ClockCutter 11 жыл бұрын
GCN at its best. Vids that explain the sport to newbies, but are also interesting for more experienced fans/am racers. At one time or another, I've heard of or seen on TV all of these myself. I've even done of few of these things in races. But, it was enjoyable to see them all identified at one time. Gives the fan a bit richer appreciation of all the things the domestique does. Thanks.
@BreakthroughPM
@BreakthroughPM 11 жыл бұрын
Every video you guys put together is excellent! As a relatively newbie in the sport of cycling I have learned a TON of stuff from your videos. Keep it up!
@gcn
@gcn 11 жыл бұрын
... you'll have to wait and see!
@gcn
@gcn 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we're blushing! :)
@cyka4075
@cyka4075 3 жыл бұрын
Gold
@MoreKevinLiang
@MoreKevinLiang 10 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Dan is the super domestique of all super domestiques
@georgegilles9008
@georgegilles9008 9 жыл бұрын
Domestique - servant.
@saucy05
@saucy05 11 жыл бұрын
Gloabl cycling might be the best channel on youtube. They are informative, entertaining and very professional. Are they sponsored by uci or something? cause this looks way to professional for just a random you tube channel.
@fpcrsrbe
@fpcrsrbe 11 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Could you Guy's make a video of the top 10 best climbers, puncheurs,... in the peleton ?
@MichaelScott261
@MichaelScott261 9 жыл бұрын
sky 2012 had many super domestiques in frome,porte,Rodgers,boassan hagan and cav all of them are champions
@ronanmccloskey7639
@ronanmccloskey7639 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the early break away domestique? How can they set the pace when the other riders know that he/she is not the rider to be concerned about ?
@dude2106
@dude2106 11 жыл бұрын
They actually do go uphill at quite frightening speeds. Of cause it depends on how steep the climb is, but I am certain that the draft also helps them uphill.
@daphnegrass9579
@daphnegrass9579 4 жыл бұрын
They are all kinds of Awesome !
@Webgkil
@Webgkil 11 жыл бұрын
Photo at 3:57 is priceless !!
@tinglydingle
@tinglydingle 11 жыл бұрын
This video is going to be invaluable for explaining cycling to the British public.
@Adoniram1986
@Adoniram1986 11 жыл бұрын
Fabian Cacellara is a monster.
@Raglandguy
@Raglandguy 11 жыл бұрын
I love these videos.
@samanthaoaklandcd
@samanthaoaklandcd 10 жыл бұрын
Well done. Excellent video. Cycling is a team sport. The stars get all the attention, but in order to win a major race, they need all sorts of help during the race. And before and after each stage or race, they have help from their seigneurs, team chefs and team managers. Mike Neel, originally from California (El Cerrito, also the origin of Creedence Clearwater Revival) was a major factor in the first Americans' successes in European racing. Look up the stories behind George Mount, Andy Hampsten, Tangential issue: It's a doggone shame that Lance Armstrong represents the face of American professional cycling. However, many riders, Europeans among them, did a lot of doping before, during and after Armstrong's career, and they are not accused of wrongdoing. Does not sound equitable to me.
@Joeypouls
@Joeypouls 11 жыл бұрын
Should have used HTC Columbia back in the day to demonstrate sprinting domestiques but other than that, good vid
@jarediannudalo6074
@jarediannudalo6074 4 жыл бұрын
fascinating .. great video I'm a begginer, I don't think I'll ever be a pro but man, I'd love to bike with a team
@superpogs
@superpogs 11 жыл бұрын
So many roles for a domestique. I would like to see how all of these falls into place in a successful stage win.
@Isaillasers173114
@Isaillasers173114 11 жыл бұрын
great video, chapeau
@rafamarch102
@rafamarch102 11 жыл бұрын
"Jens Voigt in all the races." hahaha. so true.
@tymbrimi0
@tymbrimi0 11 жыл бұрын
What physical benefits, aside from a mechanical, is provided to a GC contender when a domestique is helping on a serious climb? I can understand the psychological benefits of encouragement and perhaps even pacemaking. In short, are pros going uphill so quickly that they can still get the benefits of a draft, or is it something else I'm missing entirely?
@DiegoTelmo
@DiegoTelmo 11 жыл бұрын
The pros ride 6 or 7% climbs at more than 20 kph, and at these speeds there is significant drag. Even at 15kph there is drag. There's not many climbs where being on the wheel is no advantage. There's the Andgliru and some others at the Vuelta where Horner used that to his advantage
@gracci01
@gracci01 9 жыл бұрын
great video but the audio is over modulated.... the boss is too powerful for the mic!
@TenTegens
@TenTegens 11 жыл бұрын
Jens " the fucking soldier" Voigt :)..........his a legend
@Spekka
@Spekka 11 жыл бұрын
More videos like this! :)
@TheBluesLlama
@TheBluesLlama 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah Jensie :D
@StealthElectronVIP
@StealthElectronVIP 7 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at hiring some domestiques to follow me on my weekend rides. Any takers?
@Luffy-fw8id
@Luffy-fw8id 7 жыл бұрын
StealthElectronVIP meeeee
@fjoa123
@fjoa123 7 жыл бұрын
you got it wrong, it is you who follows the domestiques! (Up until the last 150 meters when they die of exhaustion and you take all the glory)
@EvanChristenson080
@EvanChristenson080 11 жыл бұрын
Is it fair to classify Richie Porte as a super domestique?
@devilgloom
@devilgloom 8 жыл бұрын
So, only the leader can get the glory of wearing the yellow shirt while a lot of the sacrifices came from the domestiques. I don't think this is the best way to find the best rider in the world. let them ride individually not in a team.
@nessie6219
@nessie6219 5 ай бұрын
There is sprinter,climber and ace according to Yowamushi pedal anime
@perwiratempur
@perwiratempur 11 жыл бұрын
In my language, domestique = brother!
@TheBluesLlama
@TheBluesLlama 11 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@TheCanadianroots
@TheCanadianroots 11 жыл бұрын
Do many big names ever really try to get into a break early on, e.g. not on climbs? I would have thought they know they will be reeled in by other teams and tire themselves in the process so don't waste energy.
@wardieleppan8443
@wardieleppan8443 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is how they control the peloton and who gets into the breakaway.
@jacksonwilliams5024
@jacksonwilliams5024 10 жыл бұрын
I'm a lead out man time trail person and a domestique to I do a lot for my team and I'm one of the younger I'm 13
@banglevision8207
@banglevision8207 4 жыл бұрын
How does riding with people save energy??
@steevcook
@steevcook 8 жыл бұрын
Love your videos GCN!I do think, however, that it is a bit of a double standard the way you tend to glorify Pantani and completely ignore Armstrong & Hincapie. Hincapie was one of the best domestiques of his era. Not mentioning him is a great disservice. Yes he was doping and so was the rest of the peloton. The only difference was he was winning.
@KandiKlover
@KandiKlover 4 жыл бұрын
Also bullying and ruining others. No mention necessary. Good ole American excuse makers.
@Thekidisalright
@Thekidisalright 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck Lance Armstrong and everything he represents, he can’t win shit without doping.
@JoeBakerUK
@JoeBakerUK 11 жыл бұрын
Many cyclists have one leg stronger than the other. Each of Jens Voigt's legs is stronger than the other.
@luclemmer6868
@luclemmer6868 11 жыл бұрын
Daniel Loyd??
@ciclismoJames
@ciclismoJames 11 жыл бұрын
Richie Porte?
@RooseveltTruong
@RooseveltTruong 10 жыл бұрын
You forgot Richie Porte "super domestique" .
@krischapornreianthipayasak2582
@krischapornreianthipayasak2582 10 жыл бұрын
yeh yeh Thai CC thanks GCN & Ducking tiger
@Quickdraw811
@Quickdraw811 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah we can include Danny boy. He does well
@chefjonsf
@chefjonsf 4 жыл бұрын
Who is the greatest domestique of all time
@daniellopez9622
@daniellopez9622 9 жыл бұрын
Gregarios in Spanish :)
@djdom121
@djdom121 8 жыл бұрын
How exactly can a cycler make sure that opposition cyclers can't gain a lead? By cutting them up?
@TheCanadianCyclist
@TheCanadianCyclist 11 жыл бұрын
Go bike racers go!
@isimpforaerith1069
@isimpforaerith1069 4 жыл бұрын
yowamushi pedal brought me here
@shanecollins3911
@shanecollins3911 11 жыл бұрын
What. Does the fox
@UnlimitedXII
@UnlimitedXII 10 жыл бұрын
Good Thai CC :)
@gcn
@gcn 10 жыл бұрын
We have our friends over at www.duckingtiger.com/ to thanks for those :-)
@wenyong1902
@wenyong1902 8 жыл бұрын
+Global Cycling Network are you guys going to do a video on puncheurs?
@soundninja99
@soundninja99 8 жыл бұрын
Another example of a superdomestiqe. Every dometique at team sky.
@dura112
@dura112 11 жыл бұрын
LOL... aaand, Jens Voigt at almost every other race of the season...
@tatterdemalio
@tatterdemalio 11 жыл бұрын
you will be always second to jens voigt
@badgersmasher13
@badgersmasher13 11 жыл бұрын
THE god
@jtuds
@jtuds 6 жыл бұрын
What a shitty job....they better pay these guys very, very well. Kind of lame that you’re in a race and aren’t trying to win it. I’d rather be the main guy on a lesser tour than be expected to bust my ass so someone else can get the credit, glory, and salary...
@MrPeperoni79
@MrPeperoni79 4 жыл бұрын
The most close most will ever to come to a domestique is being a domestic abuser.
@9cookie2monster
@9cookie2monster 4 жыл бұрын
wow this whole time I thought every person was doing it on there own but they have a whole team to do the work for them and win :/ ......what!?
@Max_Mustermann_
@Max_Mustermann_ 10 жыл бұрын
They should prohibit domestique's. Every rider should do their own shit.
@lucamenna8208
@lucamenna8208 10 жыл бұрын
How can someone sprint after 250 km without any domestique to take him to the last kilometer ? the last sprint shows if a domestique has done a good job. I don't know if you are a rider or not, but i urge you to ride more than 100km and sprint or to see if you have still energy to sprint or make enything else, without someone to "help" you as a domestique.
@Max_Mustermann_
@Max_Mustermann_ 10 жыл бұрын
Luca Menna After 250km without domestiques they sprint slower, BUT that counts for everyone (no rider should get a benefit = equal fairness). And yes I was in some (c-class) road races. There were no domestiques. The rider with the best overall performance wins.
@lucamenna8208
@lucamenna8208 10 жыл бұрын
Max Mustermann So if on 200 riders there is 1 which is better than anyone will always win. Nice equality. Cycling is both an idividial and squad sport, and i think it's beautiful how it is, but i respect your point of view even if i don't support it.
@daviddang82
@daviddang82 10 жыл бұрын
Max Mustermann they have that, it's called time trials
@MexicanBambinos
@MexicanBambinos 10 жыл бұрын
Max Mustermann Key word, C-Class.
@jasonfjordlund2338
@jasonfjordlund2338 2 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to understand what you are saying because your enunciation is poor. The video was surprisingly uninformative overall because of how often the 'what' was not followed up with the 'how'.
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