What Is A Side Rabbet Plane

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@mgreene939
@mgreene939 3 жыл бұрын
I found one at a flea market with the depth stop for $5. I was looking for information about it to decide whether or not I should sell the plane. Should have known to check your channel first! I think I’ll keep it. The plane could be useful even for adjusting machine made dados or grooves.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! Nice find!
@donaldbennett3773
@donaldbennett3773 3 жыл бұрын
First-time watcher. you're a very good speaker good presentation. the right tool for the job is all you need to do a good job and the know-how in using it. 1/26/2022
@MakeBrooklyn
@MakeBrooklyn 6 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't love a tool designed to be really good at one specific thing!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
oh ya! the best kind!
@GrinfilledCelt
@GrinfilledCelt 6 жыл бұрын
Alton Brown hates what he calls, "Unitaskers".
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
That is a common mind set. I, on the other hand, would have 10 tools that are great at one task then one tool that is OK at 10 tasks. but that is what makes the sport geat, so many different ways to do things. and why would you get your woodworking advice from a cheff. LOL
@GrinfilledCelt
@GrinfilledCelt 6 жыл бұрын
Well, Alton Brown is a cook. I guess things are different in a kitchen.
@MakeBrooklyn
@MakeBrooklyn 6 жыл бұрын
I personally use both. In my shop I tend to use very purpose built tools whenever possible. Outside the shop however, I alwas carry a multi-tool on my belt and I keep a bunch of multi taskers in the car. I think the multi taskers, for me at least, are best for situations where you don't necessarily know what you might need.
@moisesferreira1812
@moisesferreira1812 2 жыл бұрын
Excelente ferramenta. Consegui uma dessa no sul do país
@frenstcht
@frenstcht 5 жыл бұрын
That thing is brilliant.
@lewkyb
@lewkyb Жыл бұрын
thanks for showing me how to use this!
@MalibuGlassMI
@MalibuGlassMI 5 ай бұрын
Frickin' fantastic video dude!!!
@tonyfinck8024
@tonyfinck8024 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching your tubes on the bench.you always broaden my passion for woodworking
@J.A.Smith2397
@J.A.Smith2397 Ай бұрын
Don't know how i missed this but came across one and figured my buddy had the info I'm looking for
@codybryant8684
@codybryant8684 6 жыл бұрын
I have one of these and have never k own how to use it. Thanks james. Hoping to see you do a total restore on a transitional plane and a wooden jointer
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Cody. I have several wooden planes I want to restore. it is just finding time.
@codybryant8684
@codybryant8684 6 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright i totally get that. Hey i know you wanna do some timber framing i have a bed idea ill post in the hive
@hassanal-mosawi6049
@hassanal-mosawi6049 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing how and sharing that, well done
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks! my pleasure!
@David-fv7zg
@David-fv7zg Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this tool, it is fantastic. If you need it, you need it and it works well.
@vincethomrm
@vincethomrm Жыл бұрын
Oh man I'm in heaven. I would not have expected to find a 79 at a garage sale in Kona, but yessiry James. I got one in immaculate condition... the kind with Japanning.
@user-TobolskyjVolodymyr
@user-TobolskyjVolodymyr 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the translation into Russian. I used to look and guess what it was about, but now everything is clear to the smallest detail. Thank you again for the translation.
@watermain48
@watermain48 6 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration James, thanks for sharing it.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Bill!
@VORONM
@VORONM 5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the useful information!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
my pleasure!
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Would love to see more of your rare or specialty tools
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks. I have a whole play list showing off a pile of them, but I do want to add more as time goes on!
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 6 жыл бұрын
Going to check it out now 😝
@wb_finewoodworking
@wb_finewoodworking 6 жыл бұрын
That’s really a slick plane. Someday I’ll need to add one to my tools. First I’ll need to add a 45 or 65 to my collection.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL yup!
@TheOlsonOutfit
@TheOlsonOutfit 6 жыл бұрын
Cool tool. That sure beats trying to do a second pass with the combination plane.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. that is a pain!
@joelhollingsworth2374
@joelhollingsworth2374 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a 79 at an estate sale & am so happy you've covered it (though I wasn't super surprised you had): it's currently my only rabbet plane, so I am thinking I might press it into service for making normal rabbets. It also occurs to me that a carefully angled fence could allow it to cut sliding dovetails: the sole is narrow enough, and has a bevel on one side, so this seems at least plausible.
@jeffkerr4249
@jeffkerr4249 6 жыл бұрын
Never knew that this Tool even Existed. Now I Have to Have One. Thanks a lot James.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL I know right!
@TheSMEAC
@TheSMEAC 2 жыл бұрын
Also great for tuning sliding dovetails
@pollyvanderbeek8464
@pollyvanderbeek8464 5 жыл бұрын
This Stanley Side Rabbet Plane is indeed a very useful tool which gets me out of trouble sometimes in fine woodworking. Indeed very unknown and uncommon nowadays, but if you're offered one I can definitely advise you to obtain it.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
so true. fun all around!
@OldDungeonMaster
@OldDungeonMaster 6 жыл бұрын
It is my top 5 favorite planes in my tool box. However it is not only a one function tool. My favorite use is for making sliding dovetails! The depth stop is key to making this work for that function I cut a small selection of different slopes for my sliding dovetails and attach it to the fence with double stick tape then I end up with perfectly cut sliding dovetails it will cut both the slot and the dovetails that slides. It even cuts the tapered sliding dovetails as it has a bull nose function on the left and right . I can’t remember where I originally read about this it was on someone’s blog I read about using this for multiple functions if I remember I will add a link to give credit to to where I learned about this from by far my favorite tool to make perfect sliding dovetails by hand with. I found my link where I originally read about this added function for the “79” I’m adding the link not ass to promote Derek but to be respectful and give him credit because it was his idea and where I learned about it I’m just passing on what I learned to help others get more from there shop time and tools. www.inthewoodshop.com/ShopMadeTools/SlidingDovetailsWithTheStanley79.html
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
sorry. I would have mentioned that, but my brain makes them the same thing. a sliding dovetail is just a dado with an angled side wall. I have not seen Derek's page before thanks for shearing.
@rjtumble
@rjtumble 6 жыл бұрын
wow, neat tool, thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks man!
@rick91443
@rick91443 6 жыл бұрын
Super Subject(I agree with Cody,) never seen one but am fasinated by the Stanley Plane Series all of a sudden. Would love to know more too! Always great to find your video after a long day...cheers ..rr Normandy
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard. glad I could help!
@larryk6330
@larryk6330 4 жыл бұрын
Really liked your video. Good Info. I inherited a Stanley No. 79 and it has the depth stop. It's in great shape and wanted to ask your opinion on another use for this plane. I have eight shelves I'm going to edge band and was wondering it this plane would do the job of an edge trimmer for the banding. Thanks.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
it would not be great at trimming the edge banding as nothing would stop it from cutting into the wood behind the banding when it went too far. but if you watched it this could do the job.
@CleanPhilWanted
@CleanPhilWanted 6 жыл бұрын
I do believe I need to get one of these! I need to find my way to the Midwest tool collectors shows you go to.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
you should man. look at the map and see what is around you!
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 6 жыл бұрын
nice side plane , thanks for explanation 😊👍
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
my pleasure!
@ryanallthewiser
@ryanallthewiser 6 жыл бұрын
James you’re killing me - another tool to look for!!! 😳. Cool video.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL I am here to help!
@brentlue9690
@brentlue9690 2 жыл бұрын
can i use wax from a candle wax to lubricate my veirtas router planew just wondering great youtube channel
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. Paraffin wax is used by many for that.
@robb4751
@robb4751 4 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a stanely 71 router plane and a stanely 99 side rabbet plane along with several other tools that were all in a box from an online auction for $29. My 71 is missing the fence attachment. I would be interested in getting one just to make it complete. Would you have any idea where I could find one. Thanks
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
If you go down the list of on line sellers on handtoolfinder.com. one of them will have one for you.
@johnschillo4452
@johnschillo4452 Жыл бұрын
Kunz also makes a side rabbet plane based on the Stanley 79
@FredMcIntyre
@FredMcIntyre 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info James! 👍🏻👊🏻
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
my pleasure Fred!
@ronniburkarl6958
@ronniburkarl6958 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice explanation. You say you don't have the depth stop? I have maybe 3 extra for mine if your interested we could arrange for the shipping cost.
@nailgunnercolbeck
@nailgunnercolbeck 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge of this plane and the robetoe joke😂😂😂. All the best Chris c
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks Chris!
@tylerjenkins91
@tylerjenkins91 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a new old stock one of those! I never have gotten around to figuring it out. Now i know.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet! glad I could help!
@brianfedie8046
@brianfedie8046 6 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering about that plane the other day. :-) Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
glad I could help!
@MrTrapper28
@MrTrapper28 4 жыл бұрын
Just been given one in immaculate condition in a lovely felt lined wooden box.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet.
@MrTrapper28
@MrTrapper28 4 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright what I didn't tell you was I was given a lot of beautiful old tools from a good friend who has just lost her husband. Tools received include, Stanley no7 with rosewood handles, no10 rabbet plane, various other planes and numerous beautiful quality chisels. I have a lot of tools myself and the lady knew they would be in safe hands and well looked after with me. A nice thought. Cheers and thanks for replying.
@vincentgurnari3527
@vincentgurnari3527 6 жыл бұрын
Just when I thought I knew what I was looking for to add to my collection you go and add something to the list.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL I am here to help!
@dormindont1
@dormindont1 3 жыл бұрын
Интересная конструкция рубанка, первый раз такой вижу.👍
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Они доставляют массу удовольствия, когда вам нужно сделать паз шире.
@tylerkimble715
@tylerkimble715 6 жыл бұрын
Just lucked up and found a good user online right before I watched this. Your video convinced me to pick it up.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet Tyler. glad I could help!
@tabhorian
@tabhorian 6 жыл бұрын
OH! I always thought those were for end grain shoulders of tenons. I may have to find one of those.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
you could use it for that, but it is not it's not great at it.
@reforzar
@reforzar 6 жыл бұрын
Great video 🐰🐰🐰
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks Brian!
@jway5580
@jway5580 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love old too3. I just refurbished a Stanley 45 with a patent date of 3-11-83. Only paid $45!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Nice. always good to see one put back into service!
@jway5580
@jway5580 6 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Thanks
@grampytinman3481
@grampytinman3481 6 жыл бұрын
James another great video but I think that the two piece planes are the 98 and 99
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
correct. one goes one way and the other goes the other.
@63DegreesNorth
@63DegreesNorth 6 жыл бұрын
I watched this video and since then I've been caught down the ebay rabbet hole. Did you see what I did there? Anyway, 79 with fence now on the way from a nice seller. Prices are rising for sure now from what I can see. James, thanks for the introduction to a very handy tool to complement my combination planes.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. I am one of the reasons you still can not get a good deal on spoke shave blades. you use to be able to get a bundle of them for nothing!
@ketsub
@ketsub 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James, I just bought a second-hand one, and went to sharpen the blades, but I noticed that the guides where the blades rest are slanted to one side. In other words, although these guides are slanted downwards, so that the blades can slightly protrude the sole of the plane, the blades are not parallel to the sole of the plane, which will not produce parallel cuts. It's strange, because I sharpened it the way Paul Sellers indicated in one of his last blog posts, and when the tip of the blades slightly protrude from the sole, and I rub them on the finest diamond stone, it is perfectly noticeable that the shiny part makes a very sharp angle in relation to the opening through which the blades protrude. Is it a "defect"? Did I get a faulty planer? When observing the guides where the blades rest, it seems that this inclination was originally made when this plane was manufactered, but this way I cannot produce cuts parallel to the sole of the plane. Is this supposed to be like that? How can I overcome this "problem"? Thanks.
@georgegeyer3431
@georgegeyer3431 4 жыл бұрын
Kunz makes an exact copy. Highland woodworking carries them.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. They make a lot of good stuff. I still don't know how they can do it for the price that they offer.
@billmiller9234
@billmiller9234 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, not sure about the jok at the end!!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL. The best kind.
@MrZeroloc1
@MrZeroloc1 6 жыл бұрын
Is the thickness of shavings adjustable on that or is it a fixed thickness?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
yes you can adjust the iron in and out just like a normal plane. and because it is such a low angle the adjustment is very fine and easy to set where ever you want.
@brianweekley5700
@brianweekley5700 6 жыл бұрын
For the same reason you don’t tell everyone where your favorite fishing holes are, you shouldn’t tell everyone where to find all the antique tools! Let people hunt and find tools on their own so the rest of us have a fighting chance! LOL
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL sorry man!
@BKRcustoms
@BKRcustoms 6 жыл бұрын
I just finished the podcast and when you said it was small I thought "it doesn't look small in the thumbnail" and then when I watch the video wow lol
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL yup. and that is the big version!
@BKRcustoms
@BKRcustoms 6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow any smaller and you will need jimmy direstas hands haha
@matthewmiller4996
@matthewmiller4996 6 жыл бұрын
How does it work going cross grain?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
perfectly. with the extreamly low angle it slides right along.
@matthewmiller4996
@matthewmiller4996 6 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Awesome. Thank you!
@idahomike100
@idahomike100 6 жыл бұрын
Cool
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@matthewezell1911
@matthewezell1911 6 жыл бұрын
I've noticed something. Every time you introduce us to a new antique tool, prices on them seem to rise rapidly. Lol. Thanks for the info. Seems like a handy tool to have.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL I have heard a few people mention that.
@GrinfilledCelt
@GrinfilledCelt 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Roberto, what did the fish say when it ran into a cement wall? "Dam!"
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL nice!
@paulocosta4320
@paulocosta4320 6 жыл бұрын
Hi m8 tell me and about the blades hard to find?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
they are hard to find, but now Veritas makes them for there plane. so you can call them up and order new ones from veritas.
@GrinfilledCelt
@GrinfilledCelt 6 жыл бұрын
So, what's wrong with just planing the stick down?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong just a lot more work. especially it is a full shelf.
@GrinfilledCelt
@GrinfilledCelt 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, that makes sense. I was going to say you could just plane near the dado like a raised panel but that could spoil the look you want.
@Kuro-fk7nr
@Kuro-fk7nr 6 жыл бұрын
James, I sent you an email last weekend about two places where you can find some antique tools. Just in case you missed it.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
yup I saw them. they are int he to do to add to the list. thanks man!
@Kuro-fk7nr
@Kuro-fk7nr 6 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@lachemoilagrappe
@lachemoilagrappe 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, what about sharpening the blades? I got one restored, everything ok, but, Daaamn, holding at the right angle that tiny skew blade on water stones!! Not that easy...! :/ I consider making a jig...
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
I pinch it but some people use vice grips. Just let them slide on the stone and they hold it at that angle.
@lachemoilagrappe
@lachemoilagrappe 5 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright I'm not sure i get to put same pressure at the very edge area... and at the end angle tends to get bigger... But i will find a solution. Regards!
@ef2b
@ef2b 5 жыл бұрын
A couple questions. When you cut in one direction, is the other blade dragging and getting dull? In other words, is it worth getting the two separate tools rather than the combination 79? Some of Stanley's specialty planes are insanely fussy to sharpen and set up. The tongue and groove plane with the rotating flip flop fence is an example. Is the 79 or its cousins hard to sharpen and set up? Does it work well across the grain for widening a dado? Excellent video. Thanks!
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. No contrary to popular belief dragging a blade backwards does not dull an iron. Even though some big names scream it. Lol This one is extremely easy to setup. It is only as fussy as you are picky about tolerances. Yes as a very low angle it works well cross grain too. Hope that helps.
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 6 жыл бұрын
Now that is a plane I would like to have :D
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
so much fun in the right situation!
@adrianabshire
@adrianabshire 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Just saw a used set of LN 98/99s for sale for $250... not sure if that’s a good price or not but they sure look pretty! Lol
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 Жыл бұрын
Depends what you mean by a good price. You can pick up a pair of Stanley 98/99 for about £120. They are usually missing a lot of nickel plating, might have short blades and you have to be careful that they have the depth stops. Nevertheless, much cheaper if you want a user tool. If you are after bling then the LN is the best bet.
@EricRoy85
@EricRoy85 4 жыл бұрын
I found your channel because I have one or two of these and a few other planes that I have no idea what they are for, so I searched for the Stanley 79 via Google and found your video. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge on this plane. That seems way easier than setting up a guide and tackling the job with a router. Sub'd Any idea how much these are worth?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I love playing with all the old tools. As to value it depends on condition and the version you have. Anywhere from $5 to $150. The most of them are in the 30 to $40 range.
@EricRoy85
@EricRoy85 4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Thanks for getting back to me so quickly and I appreciate your help
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Rubertoe; I could have used that this morn, now I have a chipped dado. FML.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL sorry should have put the video out earlier
@carbonitegamorrean8368
@carbonitegamorrean8368 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@js8039
@js8039 6 жыл бұрын
I would submit these were developed for wind sash joiners back in the day.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
yup they used them a lot. I have even seen them used to clean out over painted sashes.
@AssafOppenheimer
@AssafOppenheimer 3 жыл бұрын
seems to me you can build a fence block on it to make the female part of a sliding dovetail - am I right?
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. A few have done that
@Sarrienne
@Sarrienne 6 жыл бұрын
That reminds me.... What do you call a man with a spade stuck in his head? Doug* What do you call a man *without* a spade stuck in his head? Douglas! *Usually people have heard this one before, so when they roll their eyes and respond, "Doug"... say, "NO... you call him an *ambulance*, for goodness' sake!!" :-D
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
nice! i like that one!
@summerswoodworking
@summerswoodworking 6 жыл бұрын
hmmm interesting
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
I know right!
@MarioBros-gx7tb
@MarioBros-gx7tb 6 жыл бұрын
😮👍👍
@moonwolf7135
@moonwolf7135 6 жыл бұрын
Is there a set of chisels you can recommend for someone who can't afford the Stanley sweethearts, that are budget friendly. I have to watch what I spend.
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
my go to chisels are the set from Aldi (the grocery store) but they only sell them once a year for $6.99. me second cheap set is the wooden handle chisels from Harbor Freight, the handles are painful but for the price the steel is decent. and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the steel on those and Le Nelson chisels with out a couple years of experience. after that my next choice is the cheaper set of Narex chisels. if you treat those well they will last a lifetime.
@moonwolf7135
@moonwolf7135 6 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright thanks I will check them out
@moonwolf7135
@moonwolf7135 6 жыл бұрын
I dig your plane, I just restored a 78 and 180 that I won on Ebay. And I have 2 number 4 Stanley's and a block plane to restore once I finish building a silverware box for my mom.
@orelygarcia
@orelygarcia 6 жыл бұрын
👍👍💯🖤😎
@johnadamski4012
@johnadamski4012 Жыл бұрын
🌲🍀🐾🎓sweeet🎓🐾🍀🌲.
@pettere8429
@pettere8429 2 жыл бұрын
Kunz makes a clone of the stanley 79.
@larryatha3221
@larryatha3221 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating this. I was not certain how it was used. Don’t forget that KUNZ makes these new.
@tarz9386
@tarz9386 6 жыл бұрын
I HAVE ONE, YOU BETTER STICK TO WOOD , JOKES YOU'LL GO BROKE . LOL
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
LOL thanks man!
@murphymmc
@murphymmc 6 жыл бұрын
dado [dey-doh]
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
depends on where you are from. like rabbet or rabate.
@myrawright282
@myrawright282 6 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! But...thought I'd give the boy a break! 😂🤣
@sritchie1272
@sritchie1272 6 жыл бұрын
It’s called a rebate, a rabbit is what eats the carrots out of your garden
@WoodByWright
@WoodByWright 6 жыл бұрын
Depends on what side of the pond you are from lol.
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