What Is Birth Control Doing To Women’s Brains? - Dr Peter Attia

Chris and Dr Peter Attia discuss the impacts of hormonal birth control on women. Why is Dr Peter Attia concerned with hormonal birth control? What are the side effects of hormonal broth control according to Dr Peter Attia? Why does Dr Peter Attia think hormonal birth control is such a tricky subject?
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[@ChrisWillx]

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[@dwc511]

Sorry Chris. There have been multiple studies showing no statistical difference between hormonal and non hormonal methods such as copper IUDs with respect to their psychological effects. I’m a gynecologist for more than 30 years and have prescribed, discontinued multiple contraceptive options and prescribed anti depressants and made referrals to behavioral health and haven’t seen any factor more important for psychological impact than social media, social isolation from Covid and modern society. Males also have similar increases in anxiety and depression in this era we live in.

[@parkers969]

My sister was on birth control from 16-32. She just got off recently and we had a several hours long conversation about all the wild shit associated with being a woman that she just didn’t know. “I can smell everything.” “I have days where I feel shit about myself for no real reason.” “Eggs for breakfast are disgusting for a few days out of the month.” It’s wild to see her, a grown ass woman, experiencing the full spectrum of womanhood for the first time in her entire life. Because of hormonal birth control.

[@anneshirley9560]

That's so sad

[@azurephoenix9546]

Wow...that's wild. I'm one 5 girls I. My family. One of our sisters was on the pill and the rest of us noticed how her moods were all over the place and suddenly she absolutely coukd not stand dark chocolate, which used to be her favorite, so we're all sort of just observing this personality shift in her. She stared to detach from all of her relationships, and started forming relationships that definitely had some unhealthy aspects, like if it wasn't an absolute shit show, then it wasn't something she could feel anything in. It was super odd. She quit and got married and everything and is doing great, but I think the women don't necessarily observe these changes within themselves bc they're perhaps too close to see the day-to-day differences, but those around them can see those shifts. It's sad, but also why it's really important to have people you trust around you, looking out for you.

[@James.w.a]

I experienced this recently, my girlfriend of 3 years broke up with me soon after stopping birth control. No real problems in our relationship, she just said that now she realises what she really wants in a partner. Weird sad stuff - feels very unfair

[@SlashinDRITA]

Did you offer to wear protection?

[@derekrodrigues6890]

Did she tell you what it was she suddenly wanted that you aren’t providing?

[@Njliving22]

I’m sure they’re more to the story bud. Lol

[@James.w.a]

@@Njliving22 For sure

[@James.w.a]

@@derekrodrigues6890to be more bold and action oriented, less careful and considered. I think

[@HeyUncleJack]

"interesting, totally unaware of that side of things" My favorite line here. Perfect model of humility in a person of science.

[@scott1127]

It's a nice way of saying it's all BS but he doesn't want to get into it with Chris. He feels the same about biohacking.

[@antonfriberg881]

@@scott1127it is not BS though? Have you even listened to Sarah Hill?

[@Merdle]

​@@antonfriberg881if one book persuades you about something you have no physical experience of...you should take a refresher on scientific methodology.

[@Avery-wy1xh]

Someone should do a study on the long term effects of birth control and if it effects subsequent children. What long-term birth control use over decades and generations can do to thier offspring.

[@pipkin5287]

I mean, it would also just be nice to know exactly what it does to the person on birth control?

[@sunfish4095]

Higher selectivity for more feminine men as mates. I'm sure this would cause a change in males over time, perhaps birth to more feminine sons.

[@Harvesterain]

I haven't been on any form of birth control since 2016. I was on the depo shot for almost two years and it messed up my body so bad. I gained 50lbs in that time period. It took two years to get my body back to normal. I have lost 110lbs in the past three years and use chasteberry to regulate irregular cycles. No hormonal birth control for me, ever. Never again.

[@lynncrf]

Depo causes an insane amount of weight gain. Most women I know who have taken it gain at least 30 lbs. Toxic stuff!

[@ClaireGreen-wd2gm]

After I had my one and only child I got a copper non hormonal IUD and I used that one for 9 yesr and had it removed and then another put in. Of course those have a bad rep too BUT if they work for you they are really great. Bc no hormones that you can't forget to take and it lasts so long.

[@tophat2115]

what does the toxic soup in which we live, eat, drink, walk on, breath, do to our health in general?

[@brkbtjunkie]

Maybe where you live. Where I live is green, lush, and beautiful.

[@SettieSpaghetti]

I’m ultra sensitive to pretty much anything I ingest. From caffeine to birth control. I tried different hormonal contraceptions in my 20s in the form or the ring, the patch, and 2 different pills. Every single one made me so sick so I just decided I would never take them again. What’s crazy though is the amount of pressure and shame I get from doctors since I’ve elected to not take any birth control. Even in my 30s after having my 1st child the doctor was so rude and basically told me I was going to end up pregnant by accident if I don’t get on birth control. I think the monetary incentive to prescribe birth control is very high and the shame of unplanned pregnancy is too, so it’s literally changing women.

[@HeartWorkURelationalSoulCoach]

Same here. I tried birth control in my early 20’s and lasted a few months. Too sensitive. My whole life, while married even, I used the rhythm method. I knew when I ovulated. When I tried to get pregnant, I was lucky enough to get pregnant immediately. As I said in an earlier text, the feminist movement brought equality, but we women abandoned our femininity to become masculinized in a masculine world. Our feminine bodies were not cut out for this type of stress. Women need a massive over haul. Finally when I hit big perimenopause symptoms, I changed my lifestyle. Vegan, cook my own food, worked less, took a nap, chased the sunrise in the morning, meditated…and I have tremendous energy everyday. My body still aches and pains and I have challenges, but I abused it for a long time acting like a man. No more. We deserve more!

[@KJxxoo]

I was suicidal on depo provera. The no periods was nice, but I also know that’s not physically healthy either.

[@rcmunro22]

Sarah Hill's work on this subject is enlightening. As a male it's hard to fully get a grasp on the subject but I know from anecdote growing up Birth Control was viewed the families of girls I dated as a somewhat Risky but perhaps beneficial drug. Now it's just accepted as standard for Women and I think we should step back as a Society and really re-examine the effects of Birth Control because it's most likely far more impactful than simply a magic don't get pregnant pill, there are consequences that come with messing with people's hormones, especially when it's 50% of the population.

[@raumograeywolf5477]

Yeah, condom culture is by far superior.

[@danthadon87]

Birth control is prescribed for a lot o reasons, two others being acne and pcos.

[@rcmunro22]

@@danthadon87 Never claimed it didn't have positive aspects, my point was.. Birth Control is has become a drug that is viewed only as a positive by all of Society and standard for pretty much all adult Women.. without us really understanding the full health and societal impacts of that. We used to at least have a skepticism, at least when I was growing up the families did, now that's just gone and I'm not so sure that's a good thing.

[@tstatus1206]

It's clearly making em crazy!

[@tomcrocs8721]

@@tstatus1206😂😂 valid

[@marquitomerkkks2033]

I really do think there’s a psychological effect. My ex gf of 3 years was on it and she would have a lot of mood swings and would see a therapist (apart from her personal family problems she was dealing with) cuz she also realized it wasn’t normal. Also one of my coworkers explained to me and my other fellow coworkers about her experience with hormonal birth control (specifically the pill) and admitted that she felt like she was going insane when she was on it and had broken up with her bf due to how bad she was feeling. And after while she was off it, she felt completely better

[@michaelhennessy5672]

Hey Chris, did I just see you at the salt lake airport? If so, didn’t want to bug you but wanted to say that you are killing it and your podcast is now my number 1. Keep it up!

[@daramccluskey]

Looks great with the aspect ratio and whatever you're shooting on!

[@hanswoast7]

21:9 it is

[@CptFlinnstone13]

My wife of 11 years stopped BC about a year ago... she left me.. JK, it was the best thing we decided to do, she feels so much better, balanced and happy. And her sexy drive is over the moon again. 10/10 would recommend 😂

[@noahkurtz4769]

Chris, I really like your podcast and have started listening to it more often recently. The video title is a little bit misleading for this one. Topic indicates the discussion would be about birth control but almost 80% of the video wasn’t related to the title. Didn’t like that.

[@Padronfan]

Straight up love the new ultrawide format!

[@Maybe-cg2tn]

Women are affected differently with BC or HRT. Don't think it's a one size fits all. My experience completely different from what some are reporting.

[@GrubWarp]

The experiences I’ve had with women on vs. off the pills are wildly different

[@tigger4011]

20 years on birth control, 20 on HRT and they will be prizing my HRT out of my cold, dead hands. Without it i can't sleep, my joints hurt, severe heart palpitations. I have to fight my GP every couple of years to stay on it. BUT - you can't just say "birth control" or "HRT" without saying which type, brand or dosage - all of which vary from country to country. This video, to me, is scare mongering (and I love your stuff). It's like the now debunked study that said HRT increased cancer risk and now it's admitted that it was combined HRT (not oestrogen only) and the study contained too many women who were obese, smoked and drank - all of which increase cancer risk. I suspect (anecdotally, of course) it's more likely that any effect is being magnified by sedentary lifestyles, poor diet, smoking/vaping and alcohol.

[@absurdpixie]

THIS!👆Very well said. I had a horrible experience with birth control, but I also know women for whom forms of HRT massively improved their quality of life and even may have saved them. I think the distinction to make here is that these therapies can help women who actually have existing problems and imbalances, whereas OB/GYNs will indiscriminately prescribe birth control to any and all women/girls who walk through their doors regardless of the existence of any observable problem with their hormones. They don’t even do bloodwork first! Thus, while the overprescription situation is certainly out of hand, I agree that it’s important to be specific about this and not make blanket statements that demonize the use of these medications for all women.

[@tigger4011]

@@absurdpixie Thank you 🙂 It bothers me that women with horrific perimeno / meno symptoms are being put off from trying HRT. Especially now there are so many different delivery methods. One size doesn't fit all and we need to make informed choices and mine is that taking HRT is less of a risk than not (with my health background). 2 hours sleep a night with a racing / irregular heartbeat is not good for anyone - and I'm otherwise slim, eat healthily, don't drink or smoke and exercise daily.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes5903]

I don't think this has anything to do with fear mongering. Birth control is like any other drug. Can be extremely useful, though you need to be aware of potential side effects.

[@tigger4011]

@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 Forgive me - but this sounds like a man's perspective. Do you have any idea how much we hear this from GPs who don't have current information? Just saying "birth control" is like talking about safety features and just saying "cars". Which ones? I just don't like unspecific language like this.

[@gilgameshkingofheroes5903]

@@tigger4011 Well, it would certainly be useful to be more specific. Doesn't mean you can't make some general statements. "Put your Seatbelt on" stands true regardless of your car. "Drugs have sideeffects" stands true regardless of drug. Though you do have a point. Edit: All is fine, no reason to apologize.

[@cgrass4035]

Peter is more precise and exact…Chris likes to conjecture a lot 😊

[@CommunistGangsterComputerGod]

Its sad my mom put me on this growing up instead of kicking my ass for having premarital sex. That shit made me insane off the bat and when i stopped i didnt get my period for like 2 years.

[@JoseCruz-ce2vp]

That is interesting. Do you mind explaining further what you mean when you said that it made you crazy?

[@theprodigalson4003]

@@JoseCruz-ce2vpyeah do h feel as though u returned to normal after that or was something altered?

[@agricolaregs]

@@JoseCruz-ce2vpin my 20s I was put on BC. Went into dark depression and my moods were erratic. My brother actually physically brought me to the doctor and was like “fix this.” I lived with him at the time. I went off BC and I was normal. And they refused to acknowledge it was BC. My doctor says that it’s coincidence and exaggeration. Nope. My brother saved me.

[@CommunistGangsterComputerGod]

@@JoseCruz-ce2vp i remember day one i was on it and i cried because i dropped my pencil in school….so i noticed the craziness day one. Crying spells all the time. Infact now, i cant cry at all years later after stopping. It definitely fucks you up ur whole system. Ur health, ur emotions. All messed up. I was on it maybe 2-3 years i think . So bad. Wish my mom didn’t encourage that i go on it when i told her…stupid degen culture we r in. Also my heartrate was very irregular on it since hormones effect heart

[@JoseCruz-ce2vp]

@@CommunistGangsterComputerGod Wow that's crazy. Thanks for the response, I hope you recover from all the effects.

[@Gymtoshi]

I stopped taking bc back in about 2022. I realised that for a lot of girls who were taking it for long periods of time, namely starting in high school, when they got into adulthood, they were experiencing infertility issues. I hadn’t been taking it very long to begin with, but reading up on the side affects did make me want to stop

[@Sky10811]

i took birth control for 6 months. worst 6 months of my life.

[@Avery-wy1xh]

I only took it for a few days in college. After dry heaving for a few hrs each day I threw it away. I was told it would help with the monthly, but the estrogen or whatever the chemicals were too much for me. Surprised no one would study possible side effects of kids born to women who've been on them for 5-10 years.

[@sistahsunshine]

Thank you for this discussion. Inately, I knew birth control was a bad thing and never took it. Looking around me, I know I'm better off for listening to my instinct.

[@SlashinDRITA]

Agreed.

[@Threnodist1]

Is there anyone other than Sarah Hill that is studying this? I have seen many podcasts on this topic but all of them are quoting Sarah Hill. Not saying she is wrong, but verification would be good.

[@pipkin5287]

It would be great to have more people studying it, but sadly, it feels like birth control was invented and then people just stopped studying it. Probably for monetary reasons.

[@bkb04g]

So how exactly do preferences change while on, and then off, birth control?

[@robzombie5928]

On it women basically go into they seek a safe provider mate. Off it they go back to default masculine male mate. That's a rough explanation.

[@aussiewanderer6304]

It tricks their body into thinking she's already pregnant, leading women to pursuing different types of men they'd be interested in otherwise. Once they stop the birth control, quite often they'll change their mind about the guy they're with (no longer attracted to).

[@KanyeT1306]

Off birth control, they prefer for masculine men. On birth control, they prefer more "feminine" men. I've heard stories of women who met their partner on birth control, and after they came off it they could not stand the natural musk of their partner. People have theorised that the change in women's mate preferences over the last few decades is (partly) responsible for the decline in male testosterone. As in, men's testosterone levels have naturally dropped in a response to women's preference for low testosterone men. There are other factors too, such as birth control in the sewage and water men drink, leading to all men (and all women) effectively taking a suppressed but still viable form of birth control unknowingly and by accident.

[@linnstensson3808]

I found Chris' interview with Sarah Hill very enlightening. She has done research and explains the feminine mate preferences off and on birth control very well.

[@user-hr3cz2ym4y]

Chris, I feel you’re genuinely concerned about the affects of birth control on women and how that can turn a hetero relationship upside down. I’m completely impressed you’re interested. For my background, I was told BC would stop my acne so I took it one month and felt very fat on it. What would’ve helped my acne would’ve been DIM. It’s basically greens-salad, cucumber, kale-in a pill and decreases estrogen. What is hard for some guys and girls is to know our genetics we are born with have everything to do with how or why a guy will need to increase or decrease test. or whether a girl will need increased (BC) or decreased (DIM) for her hormone health. I am genetically high in estrogen…I did not know but it would’ve helped to know and then eat daily salads or take DIM-the green salads and DIM help the body eliminate the buildup of estrogen left over from the period cycles. Other women who are flat chested (not me) will have lower estrogen and will be greatly affected by BC-it will make them feel excited for sex until they are off BC and then be way less interested in their guy partner. A natural mid to big bust woman has higher amounts of estrogen (that’s how boobs are naturally made-estrogen) and will be more depressed from even higher amounts if put on BC. Of course watch out for fake boobs, know what the mom of the girl looks like-that’s a good indicator, and fairly muscular girls have a tendency to hide their boob amount with all the muscle going on so that’s tougher to know BUT girls with strong muscles are well balanced in general with the hormones because they enjoy some test. Both males and females benefit in many many ways from having a healthy muscle to fat ratio that lends to great hormone balance and great sex life-hopefully monogamous in each relationship until they find their life partner for better or worse.

[@JimmyHeight]

I think he's just trying to get views

[@drauglynn]

Thank you I haven’t heard of DIM and am actually taking BC because my uterus keeps trying to grow fibroids and my dr and I are trying this BC or the next step would be Lupron which would force me into a menopause for like a couple of months :(

[@Youttubeuser20932]

Not saying that it’s bs, but this whole being on bc and then getting off mid relationship makes women dump guys sure smells like some manosphere broscience. Let’s get some non Sarah hill sources yea?

[@Mili-bedili]

💯💯

[@pierrex3226]

I live in a European country where girls typically don't take birth control, because common knowledge is that it fucks you up really bad. I have an ex who tried to take it to feel civilized like a western girl, she said she had wild mood swings, would start crying for no reason, it freaked her out and she stopped immediately. I'm not a woman and it's clear they're way more complicated than men, but it's not hard to imagine how taking exogenous hormones for long periods of time would mess you up, or at the very least, be extremely unnatural. Pull out, people :)

[@DewTime]

Where’s the full video?

[@Brunettte-Barbie]

Back in the late 70’s my grandmother was given birth control and she smoked cigarettes- they didn’t know at the time how damaging smoking and the pill was. She had 1 CVA, then 3 heart attacks within 6 months and died at 54 after taking the pill for only 9 months. I wasn’t alive then but my mum told me all of this and I’m glad my parents were hippies that always touted a healthy diet and more naturopathic remedies. Birth control really messes you up. I tried it for 3 months in my early 20’s against my mums advice and it was AWFUL. I got a deep vein thrombosis after 3 weeks on Alesse and ended up in the ER, and put on blood thinners at 22. Of course you won’t get pregnant- it removes any sexual desire and makes you feel like an asexual zombie, lol. No thank you!

[@agricolaregs]

It’s amazing how doctors gaslight us into putting money into the hands of big pharma. If avoiding pregnancy is the goal, then all you have to do is track cycles. I didn’t really understand this until my late 30s. It’s actually not hard to not get pregnant. Track cycles and abstain during ovulation. I feel like people don’t want women to understand their own biology.

[@rudymurillo1693]

how much of that hormonal birth contol epiphany after stopping treatment or what ever comes with years of declining intrest

[@Aelfrith1]

How do xenoestrogens impact on this?

[@fridabinaev]

Great topic! Really agree with Chris on the impacts of birth control. Always been against these pills.

[@Jules-Is-a-Guy]

Wow how'd I miss this episode. It's different for women to use hormonal birth control, once they're already in 20's (maybe late adolescence) for a limited time, while fully aware of, and watching out for side effects, vs. just being put on it early adolescence and staying on it continuously for 20+ yrs, that's much more insane. Ppl must pay attention to this.

[@plokijuh5830]

I feel clickbaited

[@jozefwoo8079]

Absolutely... Chris is edging his integrity pretty frequently. The drug of success is sucking him in.

[@tstatus1206]

4minutes in...suncream!

[@jamesonsmitty4953]

Love that Attia stays away from something that isn't in his lane. Good way to stay safe.

[@xelaklement3367]

I wish it wasn't controversial to discuss covid mrna vaccines on podcasts. I'd be super interested to have these biohackers/lifespan experts' opinion on it

[@lucys.4695]

What Red Pill is doing to men's brain ? - this should be the question.

[@daytrippera]

I was never a fan of hormonal birth control. I had to take it for about 8 months because I was having my period twice a month, which made me extremely anemic. During that time, my libido dissappeared, and I felt quite down in my mood, not depressed but sad. I stopped about 3 months ago, after reading in the prospect of the pill that it had risks of breast cancer and ovarian and uterus cancer. I already had cancer, thyroid cancer, and I won't risk it having that crap again. Luckily, for now, I'm on a regular normal period. But yeah, I don't think the risks outweigh the "confort" of taking that crap.

[@bsd1158]

Hey chris can you do an interview with a specialist on unnecessary c sections? It's a massive global issues that is contributing to a declining birthrates because it's hard to have pregnancies afterwards.

[@lindseyclifford2477]

Yes, I had to fight for my right to have a vback in this country even though I had no risks! It is an industry that is putting women at risk for profit and convenience.

[@amorfati4927]

It is pretty crazy that the ideal being pushed is completely controlled and planned delivery.

[@cosmictreason2242]

It's anti life

[@betsybarnicle8016]

To touch a live wire topic, abortion, there is a similar politically-dismissed physical impact on a woman's body after an abortion. During pregnancy, a woman's body is prepping for breast feeding and for supplying the fetus with what it needs. An abortion cuts this off, and the immediate termination affects the body in many negative ways. Few are willing to acknowledge this or study it for the sake of women being fully informed. An abortion is a sudden termination that isn't the same as a body initiating it's own miscarriage. Women deserve to know.

[@enclave6285]

Sure, and they deserve to make their own decisions once they’ve been informed without corrupt politicians telling them what healthcare decision to make.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Just my own experience. All the girls I dated that were off the rails all were on BC, the one girl who is logical and pragmatic is not on BC. Just my own experience.

[@mountain85]

You don't name drop continuously about another doctors work and how great they are when you are talking to another about topics they have researched. He is saying a lot of things other doctors disagree with.

[@antonyshadowbanned]

Guests: "Let's have the podcast in person so we don't have to look at screens for 3 hours." Chris:

[@MA-gu2up]

Recent research has some evidence for a casual relationship of hormonal birth control with depression. And a strong relationship with suicide after controlling for some things.

[@NateNY23]

While discussing health issues, a responsible podcaster should double check their statements so they don’t misinform their listeners. Squamous Cell Cancer on the skin especially on the face and head CAN metastasize. Even Basal Cell Cancer EXTREMELY rarely but also can metastasize.

[@tyd8077]

Never been on birth control and never plan to. Cycle tracking has worked just fine for me but where there's Pharma profits to be made, that's exactly where the science will go.

[@Dylan-ko2gj]

Well you know what they call women who track their cycles for birth control: mothers

[@tyd8077]

@@Dylan-ko2gj I dunno, it has worked for me. It does take discipline and consistency which is in short supply these days I guess, but small price to pay for me. No birth control method is 100%.

[@yahuahsgirl]

​@@Dylan-ko2gj You could just swallow 😁

[@yahuahsgirl]

​@tyd8077 I used to feel that way, until my friend who was tracking had a surprise pregnancy, and it was twins. Then I said, "Yeah, after I have all the babies my husband and I want, I'm getting my tubes burned." Not just tied....but burned. 😊

[@clementwoods7177]

As to the second question on suncream, Ivor Williams did an interesting video fairly recently on this on his Imagine That channel, which got me thinking as never heard anything stating it might actually be detrimental, so I am definitely looking forward to Dr Attia’s conclusions. I mean I wouldn’t worry too much about the points raised here, it’s not as if there’s nefarious organisations that have openly stated they wish to compromise nations populations by differing means is it. Oh.

[@craigrobinson7013]

The answer is nothing significant.

[@OscarakaBigO]

This video is ridiculous. Geez Chris you really made a masterpiece in the image.

[@pwelsh6501]

Then add social media and caffeine and sugar they’re consuming on a daily basis

[@petergonzalez1719]

Basically they're saying "It makes them crazy" in a polite way. BTW not a bigot. It is what it is and that's okay until it isn't.

[@jasonhutchins9239]

I always bring up t shirt test if dating. Shes gotta get off that poison before i take it seriously. T shirt test is an interesting study

[@Royster931]

Some men ask, What happened to woman's view of relationships and marriage, back in the 60's? Dr Sarah Hill explains it on Spotify "How the Pill changes Everything: Your brain on birth control." Very profound.

[@donnieronald3641]

I don’t understand it all but I will say that after my wife got off birth control, about 7 years into our marriage, I could not keep up with her sex drive. It is pretty crazy and it didn’t let up after a year or two. Obviously the birth control is doing something.

[@funkediscofreak]

It's hard to get behind vilifying BC considering it has been responsible for allowing women to have freedoms unimaginable to them even 100 years ago. It's also rather tone deaf for this conversation to be happening in the current political climate around abortion in the US. Does it BC change women's health? Absolutely! But to those who suggest that it should be done away with all together is similar to saying opioids should no longer be used due to the addiction crisis. You cannot speak on this without weighing in on the societal impacts these drugs have.

[@tessbcritica]

You bring up some excellent points. "Birth control" is not a monolith, and there are so many different types and brands that will impact people differently. Not everyone will experience side effects while using BC. Indeed, a lot of people take hormonal birth control as a medicine too, and it is a tool that allows people to live better, fuller lives. There are also plenty of great non-hormonal forms of birth control (the IUD, vaginal gel, diaphragm/cervical cap, sponge, male/female condoms, etc.). Ultimately, like you've so nicely said, allowing access to BC is such a crucial way for us to have freedom, and part of that involves having a wide variety of choices so each of us can choose what works most effectively for us and our lifestyles.

[@mattanderson6672]

Defund the government, stop paying tax Thank you

[@sinew1000]

The selfishness of the men in the comments is unbelievable

[@funkediscofreak]

💯

[@swedishpagan2150]

Go kings dont lower your standards

[@sinew1000]

@@swedishpagan2150 has nothing to do with standards or dating

[@swedishpagan2150]

@@sinew1000 I saw a few negative comments, seems they're gone now. Yes we men have to be selfish because at the end of the day the only one who thinks of us is ourselves.

[@ge9367]

Algorithm

[@Ja50nkAt]

It's crazy how it can change a woman's attraction towards her partner, imagine getting married, she comes off of it to have kids and she's like "I feel nothing for you", insane!

[@liannapfister8255]

If I had any plan to date/marry/have children, I (25F) probably would’ve tried to quick birth control a year+ ago. But the side effects of only menstruating every few months gives me no incentive to stop.

[@hansblitz7770]

There's a theory that vvomen prefer more masculine, fun, and aggressive guys when not on BC. When on, it switches to a much more transactional relationship. They look for safe provisioners. That's why guys that get with single moms often realize in very harsh ways they are just a human ATM, and baby daddy is a lot of times a criminal, former athlete, and generally a lot more masculine than they are. They find a lot of ways to cope. A lot of phrases to cope. Sad, really.

[@parzival1176]

Hormonal birth control should be immediately outlawed especially with the absolute abundance of Alternative forms of birth control available on the market.

[@anneN0221]

Stop letting the LAW decide what we can and cannot do without HEALTH CARE. If your parent is going down hill mentally should they not be allowed to take a medication that might help slow this decline down.?..Think about what you are wanting FROM YOUR government.

[@parzival1176]

@@anneN0221 you and I and all of the rest of us are the law that is why it is so important for people to be politically active and vote appropriately.

[@Nope-gw7kc]

Why are men talking about this?

[@margueritezoe]

Uh... because, last time I checked, medical science is not a "gendered" discipline? Perhaps you'd feel more comfortable if all the men commenting on this podcast put on dresses and changed their pronouns to she/her prior to talking about it (at which point any continued objection on your part would promptly get you labeled as a bigot)? In all seriousness, my answer would be: because men and women are two halves of the same species, and anything that severely impacts or alters the health and behavior of one sex impacts the other sex -- not to mention society as a whole, which _both_ sexes have to live and, ideally, flourish in. Why are you talking about men talking about this?

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

It only affects 20% of women on birth control

[@tessbcritica]

You bring up a good point, as not all people will experience these types of side effects from taking hormonal birth control. Plenty of folks have great experiences using hormonal BC, which is also used by a medicine by some. Additionally, for anyone concerned about hormones there are also numerous non-hormonal options available (like the copper IUD, vaginal gel, diaphragm, etc.).

[@PS-zt7di]

I had 2 breaks from reality when I stopped birth control. I thought the CIA was following me.

[@RGatGala]

Chris, stop. Please. You have no business talking about this. You don’t have to jump on every recent trend in heterodox online world.

[@marilynbauman7186]

What else can you use beside alcohol to make vanilla

[@Lifelessons101-23]

Women need to do research on what is being prescribed. The best method is the pill. Everything else is a NO GO. I’ve done the pill since I was 18 and now I’m 43. I am fine. I’ve never flipped the switch and I don’t have babies from random dudes, don’t have babies at all by choice. I don’t take advantage of men. Let not give women excuses for poor behavior. Hormones are something that is always changing and we will never master them as women. We just have to keep ourselves grateful and in a positive mindset.

[@pipkin5287]

What a strange and blame-y way of addressing people. It's pretty hard to research birth control because there really isn't all that much research *done* on the various effects BC have on the body psychologically.

[@user-beepbopbeep]

For some it's increasing aggression and hampering critical thinking. It's already been observed that some brands of birth control can render women increasingly irritable and prone to outbursts. In regards to their organs, it is highly likely to increase organ failure due to the upsurge of hormones induced by certain birth control. This is similar to the long term usage of hormonal blockers and meds used by transgender individuals due to the artificial and foreign hormones/chemicals being introduced to the body. In regards to children, they have an increased rate of birth defects, including mental disorders, increased likelihood of disabilities and immunodeficiency and hormonal imbalance. The usage of birth control for extensive periods of time alter children generation to generation, causing genetic mutations including the increased likelihood of cancers, lower muscle/bone density, depression, ADHD, aggressions, mental retardations, gender dysphoria, and autoimmune disorders. Here's another thing, of your girlfriend/wife is attracted to you while being on the birth control, the moment she stops using birth control, her hormones are shifted back to her normal "standards", meaning she will most likely lose interest in you, because you no longer match her standards set by the birth control as opposed to her own predetermined "type".

[@_taxman_]

Hormonal birth control has been around for over 50 years,and multiple generations.

[@johnw9038]

Oh look, that's right around when women started to become unbearable. What a coincidence.

[@primalvalor]

That doesn’t mean it isn’t impacting women or that it’s safe. Talc was used for decades before we realized the health and cancer risks

[@alphacause]

Cigarettes were around for a lot longer than birth control before it was acknowledged to be highly addictive and carcinogenic. Additionally, you had advertisements , back in the 1950s, where medical doctors would *ENDORSE* cigarettes. So just because something has been around for a while, doesn't mean we can dismiss the potential dangers of that substance. Additionally, birth control is being prescribed at earlier and earlier ages. In past generations, it was only when a young woman became sexual active that it was prescribed - the age in which women became sexually active was far older than many girls today. Now it is being prescribed for a whole host of things that have nothing to do with preventing an unplanned pregnancy.

[@inquisitor4635]

Yes. Perfect to have enough data to conduct significant studies.

[@johnw9038]

KZbin deleted my comment saying that was when women started being un bearable (split word to avoid censorship)

[@lunarteswisewoman]

❤❤❤

[@raumograeywolf5477]

That's how deeply hormones effect thoughts, how subtly and biologically manipulable that they are. And this is why I am a proponent of condom culture; that is condoms as the main form of birth control and protection against STDs

[@michaelhyland7166]

Brave new world shit

[@TimBitts649]

Does this comment make me look fat?

[@SamLonczar-wc3jp]

What brains 😂

[@AvyScottandFlower]

Blame birth control Sure Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess 😂

[@db6881]

He's such a cute guy shame he runs such an incelly channel. I guess it's a hustle.

[@lupinsredjacket3191]

Right. Blaming birth control for how modern western women behave is totally nuts!

[@Mili-bedili]

I'm with you on this. While I agree that hormonal birth control can certainly have very negative side effects, it's being treated as the boogie man in the manosphere. In reality, social problems are usually caused by a multitude of factors and not just one. The manosphere also tends to blame women (the very gender it obsesses over) a lot for its own problems. The manosphere is basically adjacent to radical feminism - two extremes that sensible people want to steer clear of. Wonder what the next boogie man will be...

[@lolachloelauxx]

ummmmmmmmmmm

[@paulhayes3413]

Two dudes talking about birth control. Ahhahahhahahabhahahababhahababbabababababababbabahahahahhahahahahhahahah

[@lupinsredjacket3191]

Did you just assume their gender? Not very inclusive of you! 🤨