What is Dr. Eggman's REAL Origin Story? | Origin Oracle

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TheMentok

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@ИванГанев-к4н
@ИванГанев-к4н 3 жыл бұрын
So... ALL MOBIANS WERE ANIMALS , MUTATED BY GENE BOMB FROM ALIENS AND THISE ANIMALS GETTING A LOT OF HUMAN DNA MUTATED INTO ANTROPOMORPHIC CREATURES, MOBIANS. And the all Sonic Heroes and Mobians are in that Bunch , now when the war is over coexisting with the newcreated species/race Mobians which goes in Sonic X . Am I correctly understood that.
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
You’d be correct 🤣 Not sure about the Sonic X part but you’ve definitely summed it up nicely
@dolnyslazak4721
@dolnyslazak4721 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, more or less. Also, from what I remember, the bombs destroyed all life on Earth, including plants, so theoretically, there could have been some plant-animal or plant-human Mobians... However, this happened thousands of years before the events of the comics, so there is a possibility that they just went extinct at some point and that's why we never saw them. Maybe their reproduction systems didn't work or smth. Nah, it would make too much sense lore wise. In reality, the authors may have just not thought about that
@inkchariot6147
@inkchariot6147 2 жыл бұрын
Mobius and anything from Archie doesn't exist, that's all americanized bullshit. It was always Earth, an Earth with many islands where the animal people live, and the continents where mostly humans live. Sonic was created in Japan, so the Japanese continuity is the true continuity. America threw away everything Yuji Naka and Iizuka gave them in terms of Sonic's real origin. They not only messed with his design, but gave him Bart Simpson's personality.
@teodoragradinaru8572
@teodoragradinaru8572 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok I really want the real origin of Blaze the cat.
@zephyr8072
@zephyr8072 2 жыл бұрын
@@inkchariot6147 Though to be specific Sonic's Earth isn't our Earth, just an Earth with anthropomorphic animals, different nations (the United Federation instead of the United States) and a far better space program. But yes Mobius is completely irrelevant to canon.
@ThatRandomGuyYoutube
@ThatRandomGuyYoutube 3 жыл бұрын
Robotnik in satam: I'm gonna start a war! Robotnik in aosth: I'll have to give myself a *PRRRRRROMOTION*
@Cr4z3d
@Cr4z3d 3 жыл бұрын
*PINGAS*
@zadock6370
@zadock6370 2 жыл бұрын
PINGAS
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur Жыл бұрын
Dictators actually do that, declaring themselves president for life
@theredroad1
@theredroad1 Ай бұрын
*PINGAS*
@conanedogawa4798
@conanedogawa4798 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, Jim Carry seems far better in a villain role than a protagonist role. His Dr. Robotnic was absolutely fantastic! He just does eccentric mad scientist so well. I especially liked his transformation at the end. He really managed to sell the idea that Robotnic had seriously gone crazy in his isolation with that whole weird rock throwing scene.
@helpfulbitsandentertainment
@helpfulbitsandentertainment 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! I think he totally NAILED it!
@theextremeanimator4721
@theextremeanimator4721 2 жыл бұрын
@@helpfulbitsandentertainment Yeah, me too!
@sypoth
@sypoth Жыл бұрын
Jim Carrey took allot if his inspiration for the character from Jim Cummings Robotnik, also known as the SatAm Robotnik. You can hear it in how he talks, punctuates his statements, and what he says. "Hello Hedgehog, Miss Me?" from the second movie is as direct a reference to SatAm as one can get and Lt. Stone is obviously modeled after early Snively. Much like his orb robots being a direct reference to the surveillance drones in SatAm. The vehicle he uses at the end of the first movie is modeled after the ship he arrives in during the pilot of SatAm with hints of the Shriek Bot. Sonic in the movies even jokes about an uncle Chuck.
@afatchimp
@afatchimp Жыл бұрын
Huh, interesting. I thought Jim Carrey was terrible in the role. Felt like he was over-acting the entire movie, attempting to emulate his 90s characters without thinking about what made them unique or enjoyable to watch.
@conanedogawa4798
@conanedogawa4798 Жыл бұрын
@@afatchimp I don't think you watched all that many Sonic cartoons as a kid then. Yes, his Robotnik was a bit different in character, but the ridiculous over-acting really does fit right in with the theme of those old 90s cartoons.
@superomegaprimemk2
@superomegaprimemk2 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Satam Robotnik as well as the Underground one because he is evil without any redeeming quailties and presented as a cold caluating villian, while Sonic X and the games are presenting him more or less a rival to Sonic than a threat to the whole planet
@mrsmith570
@mrsmith570 2 жыл бұрын
Planet stability through not shooting the moon may indicate otherwise....
@coilledragon279
@coilledragon279 2 жыл бұрын
90s Robotnik was fantastic, in (almost) any version! The game over laugh was so creepy, and many of the books had him as competent + evil + scary. You know.... a VILLAIN!!!
@ゼロシン
@ゼロシン 2 жыл бұрын
And games eggman is sonics friend now as shown in frontiers
@TheBuckweat33
@TheBuckweat33 Жыл бұрын
I agree, i think evil arrogant genius is the best characterization.
@melidacisneros6504
@melidacisneros6504 Жыл бұрын
T You meam doctor PINGUS
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 3 жыл бұрын
Ian Flynn's Archie Eggman is the very best incarnation imo, balancing the Japanese and darker American interpretations brilliantly.
@coilledragon279
@coilledragon279 2 жыл бұрын
It is pretty eggcellent, but so is Satam. And there was that novel where he built a haunted house and packed it fell of real vampires, werewolves, etc that had sooo many egg puns....
@Rexy_THE_T-REX
@Rexy_THE_T-REX Жыл бұрын
@@coilledragon279 i see watcha did there
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 Жыл бұрын
It’s a very good thing I’m not the only person who stands by the fact that Flynn is a much better writer if Sonic comics than Penders ever will be by assassinating the characters and letting cringy illustrators (re: Jon H. Gray) run amok.
@daseal1479
@daseal1479 Жыл бұрын
@@kieranstark7213 What? I seriously can't tell what you're trying to say here...
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 Жыл бұрын
Late 2000s - mid 2010s Archie Sonic good (because of Ian Flynn), late 1990s - mid 2000s Archie bad (because of Ken Penders)
@WakoDoodle
@WakoDoodle 2 жыл бұрын
If only we had eggman clone himself in a tv series and his clones were the other eggman. A stupid one from aosth, a heartless one from satam, a simple one from the classic games and a less confident one from sonic boom. All of them working off each other for the episode.
@thesurvivalist1996
@thesurvivalist1996 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the narcissistic one from the films.
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 2 жыл бұрын
sorta happened in sonic prime
@cooltaylor1015
@cooltaylor1015 Жыл бұрын
This is similar, but not quite, what happened in the aftermath of Sonic #75 Multiple versions of Eobotnik bodies were available for Robo-Robotnik to download himself into, and they all looked different
@HIPHOPHER
@HIPHOPHER 3 жыл бұрын
I always love to hear what makes a villain. Awesome video!
@chasethemaster3440
@chasethemaster3440 3 жыл бұрын
I think everyone does
@zackanderson7440
@zackanderson7440 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever his origin, one thing is for certain... He’s got the master plan!
@EternalRoman
@EternalRoman 2 жыл бұрын
One thing to point out on Eggman/Ivo Robotnik's name is that the name IVO is backwards of OVI wich is a term of Egg, so the essence of the character's original name is still there. The Ivo Robotnik origin and creation of Sonic story version apparently inspired the Shadow The Hedgehog and Gerald Robotnik origin story.
@Dr.Mlieko
@Dr.Mlieko 3 ай бұрын
and then SatAM removed even that reference by changing his first name to Julian
@EternalRoman
@EternalRoman 3 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Mlieko Yup, some cartoons show runners had really odd choices when the product was not really from the USA originally.
@alarmlessRifleman
@alarmlessRifleman 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Dr.Mliekothey didn't, actually! Although the reference is hella obscure and you have to be a real geek to figure this one out, but it's still there. Y'see, Julian is the name of John Lennon's son, and The Beatles wrote the song "I am the Walrus", that has a line "I am the eggman" in it. Our good doctor's full name is thus Julian Ivo Robotnik (the "Ivo" part became his middle name, AFAIK) so it has two subtle references to eggs now!
@mediamuncher6982
@mediamuncher6982 3 жыл бұрын
Eggman full and canon name is Dr. Ivo Eggman Robotnik. They reason why robotnik is a last name. Is because 1.) Embraced the name. Heck he liked the name in Sonic 2 you can see it in wing fortress zone. And 2.) And he made robotnik his last name just like Maria robotnik and gerald robotnik.
@feshpince7181
@feshpince7181 3 жыл бұрын
No, this is not the case. Dr. Ivo Robotnik is is full name, and Eggman is a nickname or a title that he uses. This was confirmed in Sonic Adventure.
@mediamuncher6982
@mediamuncher6982 3 жыл бұрын
@@feshpince7181 oh I saw some where else were that was his full name my bad.
@gabbpolicarpio1236
@gabbpolicarpio1236 3 жыл бұрын
@@feshpince7181 true dat!
@Sage-H26
@Sage-H26 2 жыл бұрын
@@feshpince7181 Dr Robotnik sounds way better and they should've stayed with the name I have no idea why they changed it to Eggman it's ridiculous
@mediamuncher6982
@mediamuncher6982 2 жыл бұрын
@@feshpince7181 what about Gerald robotnik. Also your right about that I completely forgot
@robotnikcentric64
@robotnikcentric64 2 жыл бұрын
11:08 Almost every reviewer keeps forgetting that the episode "Best Hedgehog" LITERALLY explains what the reason was for why he became a villain. Jealousy after being rejected by his love interest Lucinda. I'm very glad at 11:26 , someone like TheMentok FINALLY gets it!
@robotnikcentric64
@robotnikcentric64 2 жыл бұрын
11:01 Also, I'd also mention how there are some minor Yosemite Sam vibes and some major Wile E. Coyote vibes in this cartoon as well
@jessefinnegan1719
@jessefinnegan1719 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Robotnik being his main moniker. Dr. Robotnik is a name that I feel makes for a much more enticing and threatening villian. I will say combining the two names is a good way about it though. I just wish he could have stayed intimidating and not become a joke.
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem Жыл бұрын
What do you mean "Stayed" intimidating? In the games he had a goofy grin on his face whenever he thought he had sonic cornered and sonic once took him out with a rock. Game Robotnik was always a mix of silly and serious, and that's never really changed, he's still evolving his schemes.
@Tarquin23
@Tarquin23 Жыл бұрын
@@Fanatic_Foremem​he is serious and intimidating in his original game appearances, with the fact that he is comically round and always grinning only adding to the unease of his sudden appearances. The music is always militaristic or urgent in tone, and his bases usually dark and foreboding. Eggman hasn’t really felt that intimidating since Sonic Colours onward. An example of the tone that the games set is seen at 7:51 in this video. Comical yet intimidating.
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem Жыл бұрын
@@Tarquin23 Are you talking about the American soundtrack in CD? Cause if so that's a bad chunk of evidence considering that's the game that plays eggman as the MOST silly, to the point that sonic beat him with a rock. His robots are cute cartoon critters painted bright colors, half his boss fights have him doing goofy faces and end with him running away in fear. He has an eerieness to him when you fail, but he STILL has THAT. Just look at any time a villain trys to one up him, THAT'S where it comes up.
@Tarquin23
@Tarquin23 Жыл бұрын
@@Fanatic_Foremem no I’m talking about the stock Mega Drive titles
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem Жыл бұрын
@@Tarquin23 i'm not rewatching the video for context. I'm not interested in changing your mind and you aren't convincing the guy who's the go to sonic lore expert in his friend group that he's wrong about his favorite sonic villian.
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 3 жыл бұрын
These different origins of Eggman is really interesting
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
Making this made me excited to see if they can take the character further in future games
@nazishhussain2712
@nazishhussain2712 3 жыл бұрын
I know that
@OwOKrieger
@OwOKrieger Жыл бұрын
Always loved hearing Eggman say, "Yosh," when petting the Chaos in their gardens.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Sonic The Comic origin as it presents a good reason on why Sonic just won’t put him down due to him having been his best friend as Ovi Kintobor, feeling some hidden guilt over the whole thing and it’s got a nice symmetrical element to it where they both created each other into the characters we know them together. Neither can exist without one of the other.
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi Жыл бұрын
Also, this one explains why he had the tornado, of was Kintobor's air ship or as his frieend he learns from him and Crafts it
@Gaming_Nerd1993
@Gaming_Nerd1993 Жыл бұрын
I love Carrey's version of Robotnik fun but threatening.
@ShinGoji1987Official
@ShinGoji1987Official 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! My favorite is definitely the original one from the saga days. But all these other versions are very interesting too. Looking forward to what the live action film has to bring as well
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
I hope Jim Carrey ups the ante this time around. Looking forward to their live-action vision as well :D
@masteredultrainstinctlucar1239
@masteredultrainstinctlucar1239 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok you forgot one origin story of eggman, the one of the Sonic the comic. More specifically the Sonic comic that gave birth, to Fleetway Super Sonic.
@CheshireCatNY
@CheshireCatNY 9 ай бұрын
It’s worth mentioning that Eggman was originally designed to be the hero in an entirely different launch title game that got scrapped. When they were working on sonic they decided to reuse the character design but make him into the villain.
@Morgil27
@Morgil27 Жыл бұрын
"Or if he's even met his grandfather or Maria" Now Sonic Frontiers has finally cleared that up.
@taputrainer8463
@taputrainer8463 3 жыл бұрын
Eggman being after Sonic himself for his powers was also mentioned in the Japanese manuals
@ORLY911
@ORLY911 Жыл бұрын
Which lines up considering all the original badniks (and later E series) are powered by animals. Imagine how suped up a badnik would be powered by sonic? We kinda see that in early archie when Sonic is transformed into a Mecha Sonic, and is quite a force to be reckoned with, requiring Knuckles to be roboticized to stop him (with an inhibitor to prevent him from losing his free will). Yeah year late just figured to share.
@CarouselKatt
@CarouselKatt 3 жыл бұрын
The origin of egg man is "Consume this delicious banana DNDKANFKWKDHFHSKDJRHENEN"
@Velossitee
@Velossitee Жыл бұрын
I can't stop thinking about snapcube's version of eggman. That is the ultimate origin story of the robotnik man.
@ixaldorran7867
@ixaldorran7867 Жыл бұрын
2:52 In Sonic Frontiers there's an eggmemo that has Robotnick expressing frustration that Maria got all the attention. So we can now confirm they knew each other.
@SisterRose
@SisterRose 2 жыл бұрын
Archie also had the Super Genesis Wave which reset the continuity, that resets Eggman's backstory to be closer to SatAM with stronger influence from the games.
@Champp1000
@Champp1000 9 ай бұрын
Bro can't resist that eggman "Cake" 💀
@ORLY911
@ORLY911 Жыл бұрын
Just as a note the archie comics were hard rebooted at issue 252. The timeline is all new but with redesigned freedom fighters and changed up, simplified, more game friendly plot elements of the old archie timeline, and fits more nicely with the games continuity (retelling Unleashed at that point). The Eggman in that timeline is more or less the same as video game eggman but has more territory and mobian commanders known as egg bosses.
@cooltaylor1015
@cooltaylor1015 Жыл бұрын
Stuff after Sonic Adventure barely counts. After the reboot, nothing counts at all. The Ken Lenders version is the true timeline. Everything else is an illusion, or a retcon
@michaeljamessegura2518
@michaeljamessegura2518 2 ай бұрын
2:31 I can’t look at that shot of him walking without thinking of “YOU DONE DID IT NOW!”
@ParodyAccount_
@ParodyAccount_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always prefer the classic slapstick one. He played the piano while twerking...
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
That scene never fails to make me laugh
@jeremyrossi2716
@jeremyrossi2716 2 жыл бұрын
While complete fan fiction, MugiMikey’s Eggman Biography is a wonderful in depth video on a fictional Eggman backstory.
@dreamsprayanimation
@dreamsprayanimation 26 күн бұрын
I like the idea of Eggman being from a different reality which explains his technological capabilities.
@Gen10civic
@Gen10civic 12 күн бұрын
Sonic 3 goated greatest 3rd movie ever
@thesquisheee
@thesquisheee Жыл бұрын
Your quick cover of the sonic the comic story was different to the original. After testing how fast sonic can run they decide to have lunch but all Kintobor has In his fridge is a rotten egg. He trips on a cable whilst carrying the egg and breaks the rocc causing the chaos emeralds to interact with the rotten egg and turning him into Robotnik.
@FordFalcon1962nBlue
@FordFalcon1962nBlue 2 жыл бұрын
the dr. robotnik from' the 1993 adventures of sonic the hedgehog ' is the best..he's funny, looks demented, and for some reason the designer felt his ' ass' should of been revealing , guy is literally a giant egg
@johnnycasteel7
@johnnycasteel7 2 күн бұрын
The Sonic cartoon show STUNK
@Morgil27
@Morgil27 Жыл бұрын
Something I never see anyone mention: in a single episode of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (I forget which one), Tails _does_ actually call Robotnik "Eggman".
@Sci-Fi-Mike
@Sci-Fi-Mike 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for catching me up on all the Robotnik (Eggman) history I missed over the years. The Sat AM Sonic's Robotnik was amazing. I watched it every Saturday when it aired. I was 14 or 15 at the time, but I loved the video games on Genesis and enjoyed the darker nature of this animated series. I was crushed when it didn't get picked up for another season...but at least I own this series on DVD. Now that I'm thinking of it, I think I'll go watch it again tonight.
@spindalis79
@spindalis79 Жыл бұрын
The origins of his overall aesthetic design may stem back to a 1980 Tatsunoko animated series called "Muteking." The antagonists, an alien group of octopus-like beings named the Kurodako Brothers can morph into human form to blend in with the population. When they do, they bear an uncanny resemblance to Eggman. (Except for Takomi who morphs into a young blonde woman).
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 6 ай бұрын
0:04 what is doc robotnik doing?
@immyopic3319
@immyopic3319 Жыл бұрын
I used to watch the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon back in the day all the time. I even still have the VHS tapes of it too.
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 Жыл бұрын
1:19 Nah, I don't think people are really debating it given that "Eggman" is a nickname Sonic gave Ivo and he basically (over)embraced it ever since then.
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs Жыл бұрын
My favourite version of Doctor Robotnik is the version who pissed on the moon, after Shadow the Hedgehog slept with his wife... but you didn't list that version... so going with uh... I might need some time to choose a favourite
@superaustin6383
@superaustin6383 3 жыл бұрын
The Archie comics aren't as confusing as people like to make them sound there actually really good especially the Ian Flynn issues. I really enjoyed them
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
The more I do these videos, the more I’m appreciating the Archie comics. And while I prefer Ian Flynn being able to start from scratch in the IDW, I have a huge appreciation for them creating this massive expanded universe in the Archie comics
@superaustin6383
@superaustin6383 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok Yeah he did a good job of mixing the game stuff with Archie stuff which is what I loved. especially when they had to reboot I loved how he had the events of Sonic 1 be what inspired the Freedom Fighters it's a really cool way to mix the versions together
@Ebonyleopard
@Ebonyleopard 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The Archie comics are incredibly linear up to the Genesis Wave aka The Penderggedan.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 Жыл бұрын
@@Ebonyleopard wouldn't exactly say their linear considering the different spin offs and mini series.
@LordMetalSonic1987
@LordMetalSonic1987 Күн бұрын
Apparently the (early) Archie Sonic comics adapted a LOT of material that was left on the SatAM cutting room floor, including the fact that Mobius is actually Earth, but thousands of years in the future after the results of an alien attack. (Yes, SatAM came before the Archie Sonic comics, but the finalized comics hit the newsstands before SatAM hit the airwaves.)
@meat1939
@meat1939 3 жыл бұрын
The Archie comics give me weird vibes especially the early one's i think the final years were a lot better Sonic Mega Drive was pretty sweet
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
I think all the weird stuff happened at the very beginning when they based most of the lore on the SatAM cartoon but I can see how they tightened things up later. I'm starting to get a much better understanding of that world the more I do these videos.
@meat1939
@meat1939 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok yeah totally early Sonic lore didn't really figured itself out yet especially on the American side tbh the satam characters don't fit well with the sonic aesthetic maybe I just like sonic to have a Japanese influence you know.
@Sage-H26
@Sage-H26 2 жыл бұрын
@@meat1939 The other Satam characters I agree don't fit in the main series but one thing I will give the American side of Sonic that beats the Japanese side by a long shot was that Robotnik was a legitimate threat
@horseblack6342
@horseblack6342 3 жыл бұрын
Jajaja, recuerdo que cuando veía el anime con mis hermanos siempre nos reíamos cuando todos decían Dr. Huevo
@7evenseas975
@7evenseas975 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy eggman when He's funny but fucking terrifying His enemy is a hedgehog that breaks the laws of physics. He has a knack to show off, theatrics, an ego as big as his brain A mad scientist and engineer who was neglected from his cousin dieing on some space colony while he wanted to be known for his creations. A Villain you laugh at/with while knowing he is a dangerous man who doesn't stop
@ClownFromGotham
@ClownFromGotham 2 күн бұрын
Watching this after seeing Sonic 3, my god your description of Jim’s Robotnik really played out, the next movie we had Eggman
@kramer1916
@kramer1916 2 жыл бұрын
I always call him Robotnik no matter what.
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 6 ай бұрын
12:19 i guess he did it, he stopped the prophecy
@Bombers57
@Bombers57 3 жыл бұрын
"War, war never changes"
@Bombers57
@Bombers57 3 жыл бұрын
Had to reference Fallout
@AarturoSc
@AarturoSc 2 жыл бұрын
“War has changed”
@dragondust5023
@dragondust5023 3 жыл бұрын
alfred coleman will always be my favorite egghead
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
Alfred does amazing work 😂
@jblue88hoodgamer54
@jblue88hoodgamer54 Жыл бұрын
Dr.Robotnick aka Egg Man is one of my all time favorite Video Game Villian s I'm glad that they made one of my favorite Comedian/Actor Jim Carry play him in the Movies.
@mrsmith570
@mrsmith570 2 жыл бұрын
You should had seen Jim Carrey is riddler, now that was him playing a convincing villain
@NaruhodoPhoenix
@NaruhodoPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't this have more likes? This is amazing!
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
We’re getting there! Lol Lot of new subs this week :)
@NaruhodoPhoenix
@NaruhodoPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok Hell yea Homie thats the grind for it on this platform lmao
@thatbear72
@thatbear72 3 жыл бұрын
my favorite would probably be snapcube's take on him
@f1lm0r37
@f1lm0r37 2 жыл бұрын
“I PISSED ON THE MOON YOu IDIOT!!!” Eggman said calmly
@Booker.Z.Watching-tons
@Booker.Z.Watching-tons Жыл бұрын
if he is the eggman then who is the walrus? Coo Coo Catchoo?
@coilledragon279
@coilledragon279 2 жыл бұрын
I remember there were some cool kids books in the 90s that touched on this topic. The one I remember most clearly posited that Robotnik had been a kindly scientist, and Sonic some sort of lab assistant. Robotnik (Kintobor?) was doing experiments on the Rings! One day he gave Sonic a special pair of shoes he'd made (yes, THE shoes!), and Sonic uses them to test out his speed without burning through the soles, but an accident with his speed interferes with the Doctor's experiment. The power of the rings goes haywire, and the resulting explosion transforms thin, kindly (Kintobor?) into the rotund Robotnik we love & hate! (Hey, it was a kids book in the 90s. Don't judge!) I always liked the idea of him experimenting with the rings, but not so much him and Sonic knowing each other before he turns evil. As a side note, the Archie comics introduced the idea of a "mirror" universe where everyone was opposite of their usual selves. That universe's Robitnik was a tall, thin, kind man named Kintobor who made robots whose job it was to clean up trash and sweep the streets clean! Love that so much! 😁
@williamrogers4917
@williamrogers4917 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the time they were in the Sonic the Hedgehog The Movie from the late 90s. I grew up watching that, the Sat cartoon, and reading the Archie comics of Sonic.
@cChristShine
@cChristShine 3 жыл бұрын
Jim is dr egg man I can’t unsee it
@devenirdelostiempos
@devenirdelostiempos 2 жыл бұрын
Eggman just wants to conquer Earth out of ego and narcissism, Gerald wanted to kill everyone out of vengeance.
@zephon6745
@zephon6745 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of Sonic The Comic it's Robotnik sick of losing to Sonic even as a god decided to stop trying to conquer Mobius again and to try and kill everyone too.
@jasimawwad9612
@jasimawwad9612 11 ай бұрын
Here's how I imagine the origins of Mobius. So, it's explained why Mobius has anthromorphic animals. It's because the Ancients used their powers to create Mobians to live among the humans of Mobius. But the two sides didn't get along and the Mobians had 3 islands. The Hedgehogs had Westside Island, the Acorns had South Island, and the Echidnas had Angel Island. The 3 islands had a plan to conquer the human territories, so the Echidnas teamed up with the Chao to recreate the power of the original Chaos Emeralds with Chao Technology and ancient Echidna magic to create the Master Emerald. A Emerald that can give anyone ultimate power and become gods. As they went to war with the humans, the 3 Islands conquered the human territory but the leader, Chaos saw what they were using the power for and was threatened. So, Chaos took back the Master Emerald and the 3 islands attacked him and his Chao to steal it back. But the daughter of the chief, Tikal, stopped the violence and used the forbidden power to defeat everyone and secure her and Chaos in the Emerald. As most of the Echidnas were killed with some survivors escaping to start better lives for their families, the Hedgehogs and Acorns made peace with the Humans and promised to make sure nobody would use the power of the Master Emerald ever again. And the rings would have been created by Hedgehogs and Acorns, in order to harness the power of the Master Emerald and gives it's power to others who uses the Power Rings, giving them invincibility, speed, power, and strength. What does anyone think of this idea? Also, great video. I've always Robotnik a.k.a Eggman being a mixture of the Satam version and the game version. Being funny and ridiculous but also threatening and evil. 😉👍
@metarex000
@metarex000 2 жыл бұрын
So the Eggman we know is basically the spirit of Robo Robotnik from that other multiverse?
@bakedbeans5494
@bakedbeans5494 2 жыл бұрын
Not canon.
@jasperfox6821
@jasperfox6821 3 жыл бұрын
I find that mobius in satam being earth thousands of yours in the future to be very interesting.
@jet4697
@jet4697 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of Sonic Generation Eggman said he was once a teacher
@kingdjack6
@kingdjack6 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Adventure Of Sonic The Hedgehog did have a few Origins or background stories and was more heavily based of the video games.
@bblanks9726
@bblanks9726 2 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite origin for Ovi Eggman was done in the 1990 Virgin Comics 16 page comic where he was a skinny Doctor called Kintobor. The UK comics contributed that origin as well. To me, even after all these years I personally consider that his true origin (until Sega says otherwise).
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi
@CarlosSilva-bh4bi Жыл бұрын
In reality its his canon one, like, its made by the creator if I got it right
@supermaximglitchy1
@supermaximglitchy1 2 жыл бұрын
what about sonic boom that is the time where sonic and eggman are close to retirement
@Chernobog2
@Chernobog2 Жыл бұрын
As a kid I had an early reader chapter book loosely based on SATAM Sonic where Julian Robotnik was an orphan raised by Uncle Chuck alongside Sonic. He was always a nasty kid and frequently stolenthings from Chuck's workshop to build his robots. One day Robotnik stole some parts from a tractor which resulted in Chick losing control of it and almost ran Robotnik over. Initially Chuck thought itbwas his own fault but one of Robotnik's robots ratted him out, and the ensuing argument caused Robotnik to run away
@Fanatic_Foremem
@Fanatic_Foremem Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like it was based on an early archie sonic story. Or the archie story was based on it, either way it can't have been based on SatAM since that story appeared in Archie far too early. SatAM would have only just started airing.
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 Жыл бұрын
Eggman most likely never met Gerald or Maria, considering that they were both pretty much living in space. Heck he didn't even knew the Ark itself existed until he discovered his grandfather's dairy.
@MetalFalcon99
@MetalFalcon99 2 ай бұрын
Boom Eggman looks like he could throw the Death Egg into orbit
@joelwarren6005
@joelwarren6005 5 ай бұрын
Regarding SatAM Robotnik, the lead writer and original showrunner, Len Carlson, drew heavily from David Lynch's 1984 adaptation of Dune (apparently) for a lot of the background elements of Robotropolis - such as the building designs and the flying vehicles. Robotnik's visual design is based heavily upon Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, the main villain of the original series. The suit that Robotnik wears is almost analogous to the flying mobility suit that the Baron wears due to his hyper-obesity. This connection is more readily visible when referenced against the 2000 Sci-Fi adaptation of Dune, especially in regards to similarities between Robotnik's and the Baron's demeanor towards the planets they rule and those who fight against their rule.
@dolnyslazak4721
@dolnyslazak4721 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how this video turned out. Keep up the good work 😎👍
@dolnyslazak4721
@dolnyslazak4721 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I don't understand is why you avoid Archie Comics and treat them like they are weird and complicated. I read them all until around chapter 170, when the Sonic/Megaman crossover takes place, cause I don't treat it as canon. Other than that, I feel like Archie Comics are great and present a cool new perspective on Sonic Universe.
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
@@dolnyslazak4721 The more I cover them, the more I realize how much I DON'T know about them. Trust me, I'm not hating on them. It's just a lot of material to sift through but with each origin videos I'm becoming more familiar with that Sonic Universe and a lot of it is well-thought out. So I agree with you
@dolnyslazak4721
@dolnyslazak4721 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMentok I mean, yeah, I get it. They're like a couple hundred of issues if you count spin-offs, but I would really like to see you covering them more. They have some great stories in them, and I feel like you should give them a chance 😉
@BigrookieMER
@BigrookieMER Жыл бұрын
My favorite Dr. Robotnic is Jim Carry's version. I'm still hoping in the third movie we'll have Metal Sonic.
@XDM_Studios
@XDM_Studios Жыл бұрын
I also side with sonic underground and satAM as best robotnick's, he was a ACTUAL THREAT and has already WON. plus the VA's for them was REALLY convincing
@stordeurmatt
@stordeurmatt 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow Robotnik returned
@kiedranFan2035
@kiedranFan2035 Жыл бұрын
Basically dr.ivo was in our present time and then shit happened to start this scifi journey over thousands of years. He is literally older then dirt and jo supprose on the craziness.
@superkoopaproductions7489
@superkoopaproductions7489 3 жыл бұрын
Pingas -Dr robotnic "eggman"
@keykosolitaire6277
@keykosolitaire6277 2 жыл бұрын
Now , Eggman is pissing on the Moon.
@trueRocc
@trueRocc 2 жыл бұрын
That manga kinda relays what the new movies kinda worth with
@Kariu
@Kariu 8 ай бұрын
I remember reading that in the early stages of production for Sonic the hedgehog 4 for the Sega Genesis Mega drive, the game was going to take place on Robotniks home world because he was an alien to Sonic’s world. It made sense to me since he was never an inhabitant of sonics world. only animals existed in the in game stories of the games from Sonic the hedgehog from 1-3.
@burner555
@burner555 7 ай бұрын
Sonic 4 for Megadrive? What?
@Kariu
@Kariu 7 ай бұрын
@@burner555 the sequel never came to be because Sega was moving into Saturn territory after the 32X debacle which meant resources were being poured into What would’ve been Sonic X-Treme. Be that as it may they did discuss concepts for what would’ve been a continuation of the story. It never went anywhere tho as Sega abandoned any notion of moving forward with it
@superscourgeepicness
@superscourgeepicness 7 ай бұрын
In the Sonic X comics Eggman himself says that Gerald is the reason he was on Sonics world.
@andrewevtushenko8306
@andrewevtushenko8306 Сағат бұрын
I always thought that Dr. Robotnik was in Adventures Sonic, Sonic satam and Sonic Underground, and in the rest - Dr. Eggman.
@chasethemaster3440
@chasethemaster3440 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always pal😊🥰👍💯💕💞💖
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for always watching :D
@SecureInMyHead
@SecureInMyHead 3 жыл бұрын
What if the SonicX version of Shadow accidently used Chaos control on eggman by mistake?
@alscoolstories3
@alscoolstories3 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic movie 2 has Knuckles in it in case you didn't know.
@heathj7794
@heathj7794 2 жыл бұрын
i hope jim carry comes back for sonic 3
@nazishhussain2712
@nazishhussain2712 3 жыл бұрын
he is the king of memes
@cirnosnumberfan6449
@cirnosnumberfan6449 Жыл бұрын
In the Twitter Takeover for Sonic Frontiers, we now know that Eggman used to have a full head of hair once with a man bun.
@cheesifying
@cheesifying 2 жыл бұрын
okay i might be just remembering wrong here, but i remember in one of the comic books (idk which, it was a while ago) it showed Robitnik created different bodies to use, one of which being what became known as dr eggman. i could be wrong, if anyone knows anything abt it pls tell me
@spiritsavage
@spiritsavage 6 ай бұрын
I think it would be interesting to convince all these different stories
@Krirak
@Krirak Жыл бұрын
DR. HUEVO
@nazishhussain2712
@nazishhussain2712 3 жыл бұрын
archie eggman remind me of dr doom
@Yeeticus31
@Yeeticus31 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite version of the doctor? Hard choice between Boom and the Mr. Tinker ark
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 2 жыл бұрын
Great picks!
@jennym286
@jennym286 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 🙂
@drswag0076
@drswag0076 2 жыл бұрын
the Chaos in Sonic X was based on Adventure 1 and the Shadow arc was based on Adventure 2.
@Aidenmueller-z7i
@Aidenmueller-z7i 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, Alfred Coleman is my personal favorite Eggman. I mean, a hedgehog stole how wife, so he pee'd on the moon in response to it.
@pugman9672
@pugman9672 3 жыл бұрын
I’m always curious how the Spanish dubs of shows sound but for some reason I hadn’t thought to do that for sonic x lol
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
I was quite pleased when I watched that Dr. Huevo clip
@cooltaylor1015
@cooltaylor1015 Жыл бұрын
An Overlander named Julian Kintobor, from the house of Ivo, betrayed his people during The Great War. He ran away, and found refuge with the Mobians, the nemeses of the Overlanders. His scientific and war knowledge seemed very valuable to the Mobians, as well as his knowledge of his own kind's nature. They appointed him War Lord, and gave him extreme powers. Before long, he exiled the King and the other military higher ups, and began Robotocizing Mobians. He eventually converted roughly half of the Mobians on Mobius. He was killed by his own invention during a battle with Sonic the Hedgehog. His nephew, Snively, had betrayed him and sabotaged the device. About 2 years later, another Eobotnik from an alternate dimension arrived. He downloaded every essence of the original into his being. He was, himself, Robotocizes. The Mobians destroyed his body, but he had dozens of replacements to download into. He started calling himself "Eggman" about this time. Sonic used this as an insult prior, and he "re-owned" it. Didn't watch the video. All from memory.
@cooltaylor1015
@cooltaylor1015 Жыл бұрын
Also, I don't care what SEGA says, or any of the retcons. Always Mobius, never Earth. Overlanders and Humans are different, but related, species (the most notable difference is 8 fingers vs 10) Everything after Sonic Adventure barely counts, and is very much overwritten by anything established prior. Sonic's middle name is Maurice
@mallardduckjrh8048
@mallardduckjrh8048 2 ай бұрын
I always thought that Robotnik was his first name and Eggman was his last name
@-darkstar-x
@-darkstar-x Жыл бұрын
That was not the comic that came with the original game though on the Sega Genesis. After I got the comic I found the series in Japanese when I was a kid. The comics had the original story in it and none of what was in this video was the original story. Just random mixed stories added later to be filler. The original story was Robotnik was a genius scientist that was working on a machine to help the animals become smarter. Sonic was his lab assistant with some modifications to make him smarter. Sonic when bringing Robotnik his lunch (hard boiled egg and coke) he accidentally spills it onto Robotnik's computer. Causing a massive explosion that mutated Robotnik with the egg and coke making his body shaped as an egg and the coke and computer mix made him more intelligent. He blames the deformity on sonic and attacks him. Swearing vengeance against Sonic he captures all the animals of the forest the destroy Sonic. The core story was focused on the story of dr.jekell and mr.hyde.
@NoCollid
@NoCollid 3 жыл бұрын
You know… I was just about to consume this delicious banana 🍌
@TheMentok
@TheMentok 3 жыл бұрын
Quality
@NoCollid
@NoCollid 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed
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