WHAT IS GOING ON WITH T1??? - T1 VS FOX - LCK SUMMER 2024 - CAEDREL

[@LoLmister9]

"Look how they massacre my boy" -Poby the greatest of sometime after his disciple Faker lost against FOX

[@sleepyheartss]

Underrated comment

[@banggu0222]

funny bc clozer is fakers past disciple

[@DameionDismuke]

im still convinced T1 draws straws on who's playing carry for the game

[@HypercopeEmia]

Damm kdf changed to fearx just before the champ select

[@GinkgoPete]

Trojan League Team :(

[@escaper2244]

imagine putting anti spoilers plants and now put spoiler in the video title

[@spectacledbear]

yeaaaa, kinda ironic

[@migsant17]

Yea so weird to spoil that outcomes of games at the title (which seems to be at least 4-5 vids recently), even though Caedral’s commentary is great why bother watching if you know who wins

[@HeinzHOnken]

What is going on with T1 could mean: Crazy good / inventive picks, makro, whatever... hardcore comeback in game 3... even being out of their style like with this Ivern and still push it through somehow with some chokes .... how does this spoiler exactly?

[@spectacledbear]

@@HeinzHOnken More based on context than anything else. T1 has been playing very bad recently, and so with that in mind, the title "What is going on with T1???" implies that they are going to continue to play bad in this series, so you go into the video a bit apprehensive. Then the video itself confirms the spoiler nature of the title, because T1 did in fact play bad.

[@anbuhd9479]

@@HeinzHOnken thumbnail also has a spoiler

[@Arahan96]

Im having dejavus of T1 having troubles at summer split and then proceed to win worlds. Surely not his time right? EDIT : They are in the finals. No way right? BLG is gonna bring a new hope for LPL by bringing them down right? EDIT 2 : THEY DID IT. THEY ACTUALLY DID IT

[@meane590]

The meta would have to change quite a bit. If it becomes a non carry jg ad mid meta its possible but t1 also just looks sus early game

[@elrashomakween]

they wont go to worlds this time

[@pyaephyohein7895]

@@meane590thing is meta would change quite a bit because Riot likes to change meta around internationals

[@taoris603]

they have so much schedule, of course t1 players are tired

[@lollol-hi9db]

I think the meta affect them a lot. Faker relies a lot in mages with good damage in abilities and good range but right now you need ad carries. Zeus was force to stay away from his comfort picks, such as yone and aatrox and finally Keria don´t know what happen to him, his creativity isn´t there as the past season.

[@nikolasdohrmann170]

Kdf? Editor finally exhausted

[@Jeihira]

As far as Faker’s performance at EWC, he looked his best when he wasn’t playing Corki/Trist. Difference was literally like watching two entirely different ppl play the game

[@serk3386]

True

[@BestMomentsHD]

leave old man alone

[@Jeihira]

@@BestMomentsHD I’m not digging on him, I wanna see him at his best, and that’s not on Corki/Trist

[@manuelbonelli3690]

It's crazy how he played better with yasuo in a final when he didn't pick the champ in 2 years than with tristana (who basically spams every time). His corki overall is not bad, before rework he had a really long winstreak and now he just doesn't play very oftern . (but the few times he did he was pretty good)

[@JF098]

His Tristana is unreliable because of his disrespect to the opposing team

[@AyakaAkira31]

T1 really tripled down on the Ivern, Tristana, Ezreal

[@JF098]

Guma's Ezreal feels so weak compared to others

[@julianlezamafarfan4963]

I guess they're just trying to improve on those champs. Guma's Ezreal is average at best compared to other LCK and LPL adc's. Same with Faker's Tristana, and I'd say Faker's Tristana is quite bad. You can tell how much Oner needs to improve with Ivern.

[@thekiller989]

Ivern is understandable. He's a good pick and if Oner can do well on it, then it pinches other teams champ select. Tristana is getting dumpster nerfed next patch so I don't understand why Faker needs to get good on it. He's not good and its too late. Tristana won't be prio next patch.

[@Lalaaw]

If you guys have been following T1 long enough, you would know that Summer has always been rough for them. One thing that ticks me is how stubborn they are to admit it. Lmao

[@MikAIsWashed4108]

Strong in Spring, play a bit worse in MSI, fumbled in Summer till playoffs, crazy good at Worlds is T1’s form for the last 4-5 years

[@taoris603]

they have so much schedule, of course t1 players are tired

[@bloodyzayne]

If the game doesn't necessarily matter, they barely try. They play basic and even troll a bit, so that upcoming enemies have the wrong expectations. People start thinking they're bearable, then they try and stomp everyone. At least in the past

[@Ahwleung.]

Classic T1 6-6 Summer Split -> Win Worlds strat

[@MikAIsWashed4108]

@@taoris603 nah, it’s a pattern now, there’s a joke about the demon only wakes up in playoffs about t1

[@sempuu_]

T1 out here limit testing when they're barely in 4th place right now haha. Saturday gonna be tough

[@mashinom]

Well they should’ve made lots of money from betting this series 🤑

[@Akynam]

losing to bottom tier team = limit testing 🤡

[@sempuu_]

@@Akynam guess rat king is a 🤡 for stating it himself. You do you bro 😂

[@Akynam]

@@sempuu_ weakest t1 excuse card

[@sempuu_]

@@Akynam terminal brain rot response

[@maekoh]

T1, they've always trolled in summer, it's nothing new. Fox played so insanely well though. Maybe there's actually a brink of hope for them in the future, which I'm excited for.

[@YuroChi-ux4kb]

maybe they`re just doing that to avoid the other strong teams to gain information to counter T1

[@victortran2962]

since they got shit on by ivern on the enemy team, they try to test out Oner Ivern to see if they can deny pick it, clearly not working lol

[@purplekey9330]

It's probably some fatigue They just came back from EWC, where they seemed pretty solid. It's like the MSI debuff I'd say. I'm not too worried. I'm sure they'll get some rest and shape up by finals... And place 2nd again but still

[@daniloescobar1443]

amén, que así sea hermano

[@elrashomakween]

its been ages since the ewc lol, trash1 glazers' excuses low IQ as ever

[@lollol-hi9db]

I think the meta afect them a lot. Faker relies a lot in mages with good damage in abilities and good range but right now you need ad carries. Zeus was force to stay away from his comfort picks, such as yone and aatrox and finally Keria don´t know what happen to him, his creativity isn´t there as the past season.

[@elrashomakween]

@@lollol-hi9db cuz that keria phony cant abuse adc supports anymore, literally exposed

[@AhmadIzzJ]

Again with the fatigue excuse...

[@Luxcfer]

Ah yes ,truly the T1 vs KDFox fight.

[@wolfroarxx6055]

Ah classic T1 summer split mixed with a meta that sucks for them... Im not surprised

[@aymaneha8219]

Watching this after worlds is Crazy 😲

[@ajcannQn]

With the supporting mid lane strat around 24:00, what if we soon see a meta where ADC sup shifts mid more permanently, we're already halfway there with the adc mid meta. Throw characters that can solo in the bot lane and basically have a second top lane. My gut tells me it's troll, but if teams find a way to make it work I wouldn't be suprised.

[@alex2005z]

Only after 5 minutes at best, the tower resistances make it not viable otherwise

[@BlackDeathBlade]

Did T1 seriously just pick Ivern Tristana Ezreal 3 games in a row? I have no idea what they're trying to do but it's disturbing. Considering the reception on what T1's problems are, this is just peak stubbornness T1.

[@mashinom]

They must’ve bet on fox winning and made lots of money 🤑

[@Goldeneye3336]

Little did you know you're clueless at drafting and an amateur.

[@onihae9063]

this is like faker picking naut mid every match last year its painful to watch

[@zezanje1]

idk they juts randomly fixate on some picks and just randomly dump others. zeus completely abandoned yone/jayce/ksante/aatrox and just played tf blind every single game last split for no reason. tf's winrate was 85% and zeus's was ~60%, why did they keep on blinding that shit? faker also just dropped all his champs and blinds tristana every game, like they are so weird

[@dominiclewis6522]

This is kkoma fault, he will make t1 downfall like he did with dk, both times joined after those team won worlds and it just bring them to lose, he still won 2 lck with that dk line up just because it was the best team in the world but now he has not khan canyon showmaker carrying his ass

[@jonnyboyh2102]

Ryu the coach of Fearx be getting some long term revenge

[@sudhaunshuhardikar3933]

Yo I'm just starting the vid but Guma looks like he's ready to end it all, the rest of the team looks pretty stressed / tired as well. Also, who was the coach here???

[@roof-.-2910]

Guma wasn’t doing good this match at all his ez is just the worst thing why didn’t he learn yet? Still pick it after all game 1,2 although they win game 2 only Zeus Keria carried the game and gave some kills to faker oner was doing pretty well at game 2 but game 1,3 are the worst all of them look so freaking lost meta is cooking them rn no map control neither ban picks

[@nirvash241]

@@roof-.-2910 not Zeus but Oner... Oner and Keria are everywhere and one step ahead with what FOX is trying to do

[@roof-.-2910]

@@nirvash241 yep Zeus was good to deal the top but yep oner and Keria we’re gapping them everywhere at game 2 still really surprised they gave pog to faker I guess they only care about kills and damage not controlling the map and assists

[@Luque7]

Pretty sure T1 is experimenting to try to make a few different ban/picks and gamestyles work. There's been too many times in the last few years where the T1 circus comes to a halt in an important final because the opposing team out ban/picks them. They seem dead-set to add AD-mid & Utility-Jungle to their arsenal so it's harder for teams to ban against them when it actually matters eherm Gen.G

[@nathanbuenaventura4134]

,\😅_😮😮😮😮😊gr exe

[@Everdistance]

hey caedrel i just wanted to say i really like that your style is a little bit calmer now. you still get hype when stuffs going on but you arent constantly yelling or trying to force bits. i greatly enjoy your analysis and feel like its helped me improve at the game by understanding things like positioning and map rotations, so im glad you're emphasizing that a bit more.

[@conzoisag]

t1's draft was weird, are they testing limit for the next patch and it didn't work? if they continue to play like this, they'll not make it to worlds. top 5 teams from lck now are stronger, i hope they bounce back from this and win the sat match.

[@fr0ster0p]

if they are testing why pick tristana she is getting nerfed

[@kiyonobu2833]

@@fr0ster0p Cause she'll still be meta. They didn't nerf a big part of what makes her so op in pro play. Same goes to corki. It's just that Faker doesn't play it as well as the top mids in lck. So, he needs significant practice on it.

[@Adp32306]

Classic overreaction when t1 turns on only geng beats them they can get 6th place and still stomp until finals

[@fr0ster0p]

@@kiyonobu2833 why Practice when she is nerfed next patch and as caedrel said they are 5-3 not 7-1 for testing the chams

[@mashinom]

@@terrapin5616they should’ve made lots of money if they bet fox would win. What do u think?

[@timw682]

Why do we spoil the videos in the titles now?

[@styrfry]

So wholesome hearing the FearX fans go ballistic as T1's nexus towers fall down, and then just crying hysterically afterwards as the camera pans around showing FearX fan section.

[@jorgelenny47]

Happy for hena tho finally the team playing up to the level he deserves

[@AyakaAkira31]

T1 with the mind games making other teams think they can only play Ivern, Tristana, and Ezreal

[@iRyder007x]

"If you can't support us when we are losing, don't you fking dare support us when we win" - T1 Poby aka the man that walked so Faker can run.

[@beantow7592]

seems like they're trying to prepare for the hle game on saturday, expecting that peanut will play sejuani or maokai

[@chriswho12345]

faker's tristana is kryptonite, both in his hands or enemy hands

[@veggispeggis]

Without watching the vid, I hope the title doesnt mean t1 lost, but I wouldnt be surprised

[@mootsy93]

I feel like the meta really really doesn't suit T1 right now apart from Zeus. Oner usually plays tanks/AD, Faker is a god at mages (Azir, Orianna), Guma usually plays more hypercarry ADs like Varus Jinx and Aphelios and Keria usually plays range supports. Almost none of the T1 members are in their comfort zone at the moment.

[@gorkemefekes1977]

1:16 forshadowing :D

[@pallpksp9142]

Despite losing, I still think it's a good move to try meta champs rather than avoiding them. People keep saying "Oh, if they can't play it well then why pick it?". Those champs are gonna be a big deal if they keep avoiding them in PO.

[@Katreat4000]

Everybody please. Riot usually introduces changes during summer period, new champs, new mechanics, this usually happens towards the summer holidays which is june, juli. This is a period where teams should try and change their playstyle to fit the new "meta" which is what T1 is doing every split for the past few years This is also why T1 is stuggeling during summer splits because they are trying out new things. TLDR: Summer = Changes = T1 trying new things to get better = Stuggeling early summer cause new meta but good late when good on meta

[@Adp32306]

Its a regular season game for a 18 long series. They can drop series if they want they still easily make playoffs when they draft right. Why would they bring out their ewc drafts when they smoked ted of it cuz no one had expected them to draft like that

[@mastersplinter1950]

"You would never play Ivern + ranged support".. game 3 oof

[@durantf4207]

Editor why do you keep giving the outcomes of the series???

[@CasualAF691]

Guma on Ezreal, Oner on Ivern that shit was over before it began.

[@RicktaScale89x]

I sincerely hope T1 is just slow cooking something in drafting so that when the big games happen they really show off whatever the hell it is. Im desperate in thinking that cause if not something is really wrong with T1 rn.

[@reynoldslangstaff]

Can we not spoil the series with the video title? Cool thanks

[@LevAnsgar]

Honestly, the best thing about Caedrel videos is the surprise pop-up reminding me to like the video every time. Thanks, man. I make sure to like every vid.

[@darkumineru1681]

2:23 love the career WR edit :D

[@raymondandsweetheart7150]

The fact that the pick ivern all three games tells me they wanted to practice. T1 can be very stubborn and we see if they try and make it work.

[@StatisticAnomaly]

FOX definitely look really good, I’m excited to see how they continue to develop. Playoff race may end up being surprisingly close this year (or should, if KT manage to fix themselves….)

[@Nokae453]

T1 coach needs to remember that the roads lead to them and make em pick outlandish shit bc it works

[@VienHoang-fm3kw]

At this point I don't even feel mad about T1 draft, this have happened too many times. T1 coaching is very adamant on what they've practiced on scrims. If scrims had good results, they'll stay on that draft until it'll fail hard after a series like this. It's okay, our boys are burnt out from way too many events from last year until now, they barely get any good breaks. I hope they take a step back, reset their physical and mental form and maintain a strong performance. T1 fighting!

[@johansit7347]

T1 just picks before the games even start and follow through for fun. They are trolling us lol

[@eidamgouda0609]

I don´t get it, Zeus just could build eclipse instead of opportunity and he would be much stronger in this situation.. he was literally against two sidelaners with tabbies and almost everyone was building a lot of hp. Opportunity first is like maybe good against Ashe and kinda against Zyra, but it just have to be troll in this game overall

[@Smellslikewine]

21:29 Caster going rap god wtf

[@sasugamegami5113]

Hella good in Spring, start of the downfall in MSI, downfall in Summer, the final boss in Worlds. Idk man T1 been doing this for years now and they still wont fix it smh

[@hdeluxe8848]

T1 cant play with oner playing fullclear jgl. The laners just run it down before he even can get a fullclear of. It just dont work for them

[@cdcidsid9228]

Anyone comparing this to last year is coping hard. Last year they did poorly and then won worlds because their mid was Poby most of the split and Faker came back. This year they get Faker the whole split and seem like they won’t even make worlds- they are not getting a boost by Faker coming back like last year. T1 is not playing well in the LCK.

[@cronoafios13]

2019 SKT was at a way worse state in LCK Summer being at 9th with Khan/Clid/Faker/Teddy/Mata at one point, still made playoffs and won it lol. Feels like every single time T1 stops stomping, people freak out.

[@cdcidsid9228]

@@cronoafios13 Never said it was over for them. Said people who claimed this was going to be just like last year are just coping. This isn’t like last year.

[@abigairey9543]

not really... we all thought so but... no Last year when Faker was out, the entire team was playing bad in their lanes, heck even their micro was bad, tell me how a mid laner affects your micro...

[@Maesan90]

T1 main roster is absolutely exhausted and it shows

[@baygeebob7536]

Lol the players just won 400k plus for their org yet the org can't afford to give them breaks, the org doesn't deserve to win shit.

[@ypsiloneksugarek4157]

Another spoiler in the title. You know some people want to watch it before knowing the score?

[@cdcidsid9228]

Just sub Poby in, even he wouldn’t lose to FOX with Guma and Oner on his team.

[@upshiftedd]

really likin showin win rates on champ select. thank you papa caedrel

[@valdoozz8221]

Damn 0 kills against fox in game 3 is mental

[@TheRagheb95]

That's what happens to a team when they didn't get a moment of rest since Worlds 2023. The org is milking the players in their year as reining champs, which is something they said themselves in the 20th anniversary documentary, which doesn't leave any room for rest, solo queue, and scrims. I do feel for ZOFGK.

[@SwayNoir]

Lol what a cope. Scraping the barrel for excuses

[@TheRagheb95]

@@SwayNoir It’s okay, you can believe that. That’s always what haters do, and those who lack information. So you can bark all you want 👍🏻

[@wandalsavage7763]

god you kids cope so hard like how much do yall love the taste of t1 nutsacks?

[@turtlebean8145]

@@SwayNoirriiiight he’s making excuses for the world champs and ewc champs. like dam bro do ppl get tired of hating/trolling lmao

[@sidradeave]

​@@turtlebean8145they're just teenagers on their edgy phase.

[@RevanLegend]

Ok. I'm worried. T1 looks like when they had Poby tech but there is no Poby now...

[@manuelbonelli3690]

I think at this point T1 should just throw in everything. Make a lot of different picks everytime to find a way to break this meta that clearly doesn't suit them at all

[@ghostlii]

Why spoil the game with a title like that?????????

[@izushi3615]

as a FOX enjoyer, i knew this day would come eventually

[@__Kupa__]

Our Caedrel needs a raise so he can get a new job that doesn't require him to be under the desk 🙂 SO SUBSCRIBE TO HIM OR ELSE

[@undeniableoriginals4168]

I refuse to watch because of the title. Spoiled it without having to watch it.

[@GinkgoPete]

Its nice of T1 to give this rookie playtime over Poby, even if it costs them some games.

[@RizampGaming]

still loving this editor.

[@HostileAtHeart]

Thanks for spoiling the entire series in the title... League has been out for over 10 years and we still haven't learned the most basic etiquette for content surrounding the game.

[@Scarlet_moon.]

Come on Riot,can we remove adc from midlane,this is ridiculous.

[@posmotri7722]

wait until you hear that marksmen are picked bot literally almost every single game since years now...

[@GallicNine]

@@posmotri7722 most delusional shit ive ever heard

[@nirvash241]

not gonna happen anytime soon with Pro even trying to pick Zeri, Draven now after getting a glimpse of Ziggs and Lucian

[@posmotri7722]

@@GallicNine Why? Who gives a shit if more champs can be played mid? The problem isn't that adcs are being played mid, but that app junglers have made mages mid borderline troll picks. Variety is good, and I've never heard people complain about ziggs or seraphine bot like tristana mid

[@mustard9933]

T1 play calling falls apart when oner is on ivern for some reason.

[@hikenos7273]

PEDRO UNLOCK THE BASEMENT, WE'RE COMING FOR YOUR EDITOR

[@yoonsoohong]

hopefully t1 can learn from losses and fix draft.... stronger for worlds surely

[@cfwtalks]

T1 are not SKT T1 anymore, they are T1 Entertainment with too many distractions outside the game, I really believe this is why they are inconsistent. Its quite clear they are not focused on this meta, they are just trying what other people think are meta. But we all know the script, come playoffs time they go into that hyberbolic time chamber so they can peak at the right time. Its like doing you're homework at the last minute and still getting an A. The problem with this is it catches up to you in the end. I would not be surprised if they fail to make Worlds and if that happens I think that would be hugely beneficial to them in the long run as they will have to re-assess the team, no Worlds equals less revenue (more trucks), so they have to change.

[@abigairey9543]

i mean, if that happens, a few of them are leaving the team

[@carljtorres6]

Bro they go undefeated spring and choke Msi, they barely make worlds cutoff then win worlds. Regular season doesn’t mean much they’re just meta testing

[@nickpompeo1848]

"drop ivern" "Nah i dont think so"

[@igorfan23]

At this point t1 should just make zeus play tristana and put faker on k'sante

[@deadsh0tx523]

They will bounce back. Believe in T1

[@Tenz220]

Guma's Ezreal missing skill shots left and right bruh.

[@Shsj272]

Well T1 always stumbled in summer. we are used to it

[@kaminoyami30]

even their drafts are so fckng burnt out lmao.

[@johnbenedictmerlin15]

I think they are practicing champs that is included on the meta 🤔

[@TuckerTheKobold]

what's with the random twitch emote popups? who is out here putting xdd on during casting

[@aloneinthetop]

Ivern lost in camps creating a obligation to gank and give vantage to laners. If this doesn't happen, is chover.

[@aprill14207]

Its FearX 😭 mah buddy, you have 1 typo

[@watsumoto]

please no more spoilers :(

[@lazysean5418]

I thought FOX rebranded into BNK but it was KDF , thank you rat

[@elkaidred0512]

Ego draft is the placebo crash

[@JLCBubba]

So many possible factors: DDoS may still be affecting T1 Fatigue/Faker injury Sandbagging Poor meta for them (AD mid meta sucks, when you can see teams draft all AD and still win you know you have serious balance issues) I just hope the meta changes wildly before Worlds, ideally with a nerf to both ADC items and Lethality items (and an Azir nerf), so we can get the AP Mids back properly. I want to see Syndra, Orianna, Viktor, Malzahar, etc. Oh, and remove K'Sante and rework him into a Jungler.

[@에비랑]

Actually can’t tell if this guy’s being sarcastic here

[@cellgoondude]

I think T1 needs a break. They’ve literally been going nonstop

[@chrischeng5123]

Thumbnail kinda spoiled it :/

[@JF098]

If they keep playing like this, T1's not gonna make it into Worlds. Rather embarrassing esp after winning Worlds and Faker being the first to be admitted to the Hall of Legends

[@tonyngo4694]

Unfortunately this meta ain’t it for T1. If the meta remains the same all the way up to internationals they ain’t winning. Meta probably has to change quite drastically for them to win.. no tristana mid carry top would be ideal

[@rdmz234]

Come on you can do better title than this...

[@BlowUrMind-xp4fj]

STOP THE SPOIL PLEASE I CANT WATCH

[@karlmoresco642]

For the last 5 years of LCK Summer except for Summer 22, at the end of group stage they always placed 4th. T1 classic?

[@hawaiilacrosse44]

Guma Ezreal really just doesn't get it done. Same shit when T1 locks in Jhin.

[@johnlau6749]

actually the root problem is the meta itself. T1 never should've follow meta in the first place

[@hawaiilacrosse44]

@@johnlau6749 Yea they are forcing the meta. I just don't get how the coach and tea don't see it.

[@joeybrez1]

Ryu finally taking some revenge on faker 😂

[@leon5472]

Why are they experimenting comp when their placement is so low? Ugh, this is so frustrating. This AD mid meta is really taxing on the team. Last time it was lane swap, now AD mid.

[@elrashomakween]

@@leon5472 so you're saying they won worlds because the worlds patch then suited t1's playstyle?

[@mwbwyatt]

because theyre guaranteed worlds through championship points anyways arent they? as long as they make playoffs.

[@cronoafios13]

I wouldn't even call this low, for example SKT 2019 were 9th place at one point while having players like Khan/Clid/Faker/Teddy/Mata. Then they woke up and went on a 13 game win streak which brought them to no.1 at week 8 but they finished regular season at 4th. In the end they still won LCK Summer Playoffs lol. I am not too worried right now but at the same time not surprised if they do not make worlds (it's an SKT/T1 thing). It's been 3 years straight they qualified worlds, about time they drop the ball for 1 year XD Prime SKT was at worlds finals from 2015-2017, then 2018 they did not even make it so yeah.

[@johnmartinjmart2370]

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH T1??? Wow i wonder who won before watching lmfao

[@badpeanut1892]

It's time for Guwon prayge