What is Melodic Metalcore?

A successor to Melodic Death Metal, Melodic Metalcore was one of the most prevalent metal genres of the 2000s. It may be often overlooked or dismissed, but it has it's place in metal history. I do not own the music. It is for educational and entertainment purposes, as always.

[@whatsinameme5258]

Songs used: Not Alone by All That Remains. Dead Eternity by In Flames. Destroy Everything by Hatebreed. Whispers by All That Remains. Taking Back My Soul by Arch Enemy. Down From the Sky by Trivium. Predator and Prayer by The Agonist. This Calling by All That Remains. Rose of Sharyn by Killswitch Engage. Tears Don't Fall by Bullet For My Valentine. Unholy Confessions, Welcome to the Family, and Easier by Avenged Sevenfold. General of the Dark Army by Unleash the Archers. 10 Miles Wide by Escape the Fate. Disconnect Me by The Agonist. This is the End by Machine Head. Sweet Art Thou by Theatre of Tragedy. Chi by KoRn. Morphogenesis by Scar Symmetry. Walk With Me In Hell by Lamb of God. What I'm Not by Demon Hunter. Under God by For Today. Meaning in Tragedy by As I Lay Dying. Dissentient by Angelmaker. In Dying Days by As Blood Runs Black. The Unwelcome Savior by Light This City.

[@i_want_my_shuggah]

Thaaaankk youuuu!

[@ashen_one_vr]

"Screwing people and killing them, that's cool. But loving them, that's totally gay bro!" 😂😂 Melodic Metalcore goes hard af

[@milkman2266]

Waited 9 long years for Scar symmetry’s newest album and it was well worth the wait. Scar Symmetry was one of the first bands that made me realize how much I love melodic metal. The riffs and clean vocals are sublime

[@Eichro]

My favorite band, these guys still got it

[@antimessiah666]

You should do a mention of “edge metal”, which is tied to the H8000 scene but not exclusive. It’s basically the first wave of melodic metalcore (1997-02) without cleans and is probably 50/50 in terms of metal/hardcore. Lyrical themes usually include straight edge (namesake), veganism, and christianity. Bands include Undying, State Craft, Prayer for Cleansing, Deformity, Day of Suffering, and Liar.

[@lifelearner3067]

You got good taste. In your upcoming video on melodic black metal, you might make a quick mention of the rare melodic metalcore bands who strangely drew inspiration from black metal rather than just the more typical trio of thrash, melodic death metal, and hardcore. Bands like Bleeding Through, Abigail Williams, Becoming the Archetype, and Mindscar. Between the Buried and Me also took huge influence from Emperor and Ulver. I think the frontmen of Trivium and Emperor have collaborated for a while. And it's crazy to remember how Underoath started out as sort of a black metal band lol. Who else? There's not many, so it's really rare and interesting as a subgenre.

[@nastro22]

yeah dude underoath is the most random band to be black metal

[@JackDiamond_FBOW]

Glad that you mentioned BFMV and Escape the Fate. 2 of my faves from that era that you don’t see much talk about these days aside from “Tears don’t fall”, and ETF being “the band that Ronnie radie was kicked out of”.

[@Eichro]

also demon hunter goes HARD, even if i kind of struggle to put them on the metalcore basket, they're more on the alternative side of things id say

[@whatsinameme5258]

They are a bit Alt Metal too, yes

[@VARVIS_]

I wish more bands followed the Unleash The Archers formula. I feel it is has so much potential

[@whatsinameme5258]

I know right? Even Unleash the Archers dropped the Melodic Metalcore now. They're still good, but they had a unique style.

[@stockcomsprite]

Melodic and symphonic deathcore metal is need a video as well, beutiful work dude!

[@christiannielson9416]

You forgot to mention "Destroy the Runner" in your Christian Melodic Metalcore outfits but other than that great video!

[@endgame_real]

LIGHT THIS CITY MENTIONED Such an underrated band from a bygone era, their comeback album semi recently is super good though

[@HeavyMetalWraith]

Glad to see you posting again!

[@CountGremlin]

Love these videos! It's a whirlwind of nostalgia. Your breakdown of the genre is straight to the point 🤟

[@VARVIS_]

Love this series Good shit man. ❤

[@thereverent117]

i love your videos! often i feel myself set back to my youth experiencing these genres for the first time.

[@LilPrezzy36]

God, these videos feel like they were made specifically for me. ^.^ I love you man! Keep it up!!

[@tolyo96]

As a huge As I Lay Dying fan, I feel like they dropped the christian themes in their songs after Shadows Are Security at least to some extent. Also, I recently got into Unearth and noticed that their vocals are more similar to old school metalcore/metallic hardcore (like Hatebreed), while the guitars are more melodic (like the bands in the video). I was wondering if you could give your two cents about them (unless you've already done it in a previous video)

[@Beastlango]

I think As I lay dying was still Christian in theme on every album but awakened. Even shaped by fire seems to have some because of its redemption themes.

[@beyondthegrave852]

This is the kind of metalcore that got me into metal back in the day and it was also the perfect gateway into Melodeath which is my fav genre . Not gonna lie, i miss this kind of sound from recent metalcore bands, i dont like the djent stuff that much.

[@Weaslal]

Finally someone that sheds some light on The Agonist. Old or now!

[@shorebreakcards]

Love the vids! I would love to hear your opinion/history of the Euro metalcore/emo bands of the late 00's-10's like Make Me Famous, Skip the Foreplay, Madison Affair etc. Like, how did the electronic/metal/emo music of that era influence them, touring, recording and stuff like that. I still enjoy listening to that stuff to this day, theres nothing else quite like it!

[@hereticdeth7986]

This is more scenecore metalcore bands

[@candideggplant1575]

I think the main difference between melodic metalcore and metalcore is that metalcore originally was apart of the hardcore scene. Hardcore had been getting heavier ever since it started, discharge were one of the first bands to really make things heavy and almost go metal while still staying punk. Punk is political, and even though metal was and can be, it kind of became a little more goofy, for lack of a better word (power metal is a great example). Punk/hardcore got so heavy that it was metal riffs (sometimes) with political themes or sometimes just aggressive and tough guy bravado. Metalcore is hardcore done slower, with more chugs, more breakdowns, more brooding and more political, melodic metalcore is adjacent to the hardcore scene but breaks off and has more melodeath influence. I think the confusion happens when genres evolve over time, more influences blend and mesh, it happens over time and then it becomes completely unrecognizable. What metalcore or melodic metalcore means now is completely unrecognizable to what it was in the 90s or 00s.

[@Owlr4ider]

I disagree with your notion that the Jekyll and Hyde vocals are what makes melodic metalcore. Oddly enough I actually first got into death metal, melodic death metal to be more precise, Arch Enemy and Children of Bodom specifically, thanks to none other than Symphonic Metal of all things. In fact it was this very Jekyll and Hyde vocals that allowed me to finally appreciate harsh vocals after randomly hearing Arch Enemy's Blood on Your Hands in a records store back in the day(on 1 of those cd players they had in the store) while I was buying some Metallica, Iron Maiden and Megadeth albums, the store clerk offered me to listen to some Rise of the Tyrant to see if I like it and buy it too. At that point in time my ears couldn't yet handle the harsh vocals, I was still very much a metal newbie. It wasn't until listening to Epica's Cry for the Moon and Within Temptation's debut album: Enter, that I begun to appreciate harsh vocals as a whole, and so naturally I remembered that song Blood on Your Hands I heard in the record store, so I figured that would be as good of a starting point as any to begin delving deep into the harsh vocals metal sub-genres. My point being that nobody would accuse Epica, Within Temptation of any other Symphonic/Gothic Metal band, of being melodic metalcore, yet they too make heavy use of the Jekyll and Hyde style vocals. In fact they elaborate on the concept of the Jekyl and Hide vocals of not just combining clean and harsh but having 2 or more vocalists within the same band, sometimes it's 2 or more clean vocals that are simply different(male and female, higher and lower, etc) or in the case of more than 2 than combinations of 2 cleans and 1 harsh are also pretty common in that sub-genre. I'm talking specifically about bands like Visions of Atlantis, Sirenia, Tristania, Theater of Tragegy, etc and of course the grand mommy of them all: Nightwish.

[@ZekeNigma]

I would say that melodic metalcore isn't just romantic, it's hopelessly romantic. It often presents love and pain as two sides of the same coin, and sometimes even blurs the lines between the two as they can often both be present at the same time in the lyrical themes. There's a saying that goes "grief and mourning is just love that has no place to go and nobody to recieve it", and I think melodic metalcore encapsulates that concept rather perfectly.

[@whatsinameme5258]

That is a good point.

[@RibeiroGames12]

i believe that it's also safe to say that Counterparts, Misery Signals, For The Fallen Dreams, PTW, Shai Hulud, etc should also be grouped as melodic metalcore bands. but not necessarily for mixing melodeath, but with melodic and post hardcore. while maintaning the metallic chugging riffs, dissonance and breakdowns into their formula

[@whatsinameme5258]

Those bands are for sure melodic, but I wouldn't lump them in with Melodic Metalcore. Admittedly I have not listened to much of those bands, but I remember one of them and I believe its a different sound altogether.

[@RibeiroGames12]

@@whatsinameme5258 I think that they're sufficiently different to melodic hardcore as well due to those metallic elements. And considering that traditional metalcore can already be very different (converge, kublai khan and arkangel are very different), then I believe that this division is all right

[@hereticdeth7986]

@RibeiroGames12 It's true this bands are mix metalcore, melodic hardcore,emo and post hardcore

[@riptarozone]

Always makes me happy to see The Agonist mentioned. Their first four albums are incredible.

[@psychosis8429]

Yes thank you, I've been waiting for this video because I absolutely love melodic metalcore. It's my favorite genre and Killswitch Engage is my favorite band of all time. Also, as a Christian, I myself have wanted to make a Christian melodic metalcore band or project for some time

[@lebarak69]

I love melocore, picked up the guitar to play those riffs! The baby’s first metal comment is true, but I still listen to it😂

[@Eichro]

It's curious how we have come full circle. After melodic metalcore showed up in the early 2000s, many melodic death metal bands, old and new, embraced many of their tropes. Then others went even further to where some call "modern metal", which is essentially melodic metalcore with a melodeath flavor and don't do breakdowns. That would make for a good video in itself.

[@whatsinameme5258]

Can you give some examples?

[@Eichro]

@@whatsinameme5258 i wrote A LOT before losing it all right before i was gonna reply so im just gonna ask instead... examples for which camp? Modern metal or metalcore-inspired melodeath?

[@whatsinameme5258]

I guess both? You said modern metal is melodic metalcore with melodic death influence with breakdowns. So I'm curious what bands you mean.

[@whatsinameme5258]

Without breakdowns, my bad

[@Eichro]

@@whatsinameme5258 "Modern metal" (i kinda hate that label) would be those bands like Dreamshade, Mekanism, Sympuls-E, Chromium and Overworld. I'm confident enough Amaranthe is in that camp, actually, and I think I can lump Raunchy in there too (even if they're closer to alternative at times). It's mostly an European thing, I think all but one of the bands I just mentioned are. They often hinge closer to pop elements (the band dEMOTIONAL by instance, somehow kind of sounds like The Calling). They're not --core enough to be metalcore but they're not quite melodeath either. As for melodeath with elements from melodic metalcore (most commonly harsh/clean vocal duality, sometimes done by two separate singers, as well as general song structure sans the breakdown), some examples I'd give are Deadlock (most notable Manifesto-era), Rise to Fall, Disarmonia Mundi and Soilwork (tho they've been doing Jekyll-and-Hide since at least 2001). Might drop more examples if i remember them but im out of ideas right now

[@omarfloressalas]

Ur content is amazing, keep going.

[@hereticdeth7986]

There are Melodic Metalcore bands who dosen't use clean vocals, and Melodic Metalcore aka AtTheGatesCore was was invented in the mid-1990s, bands experiment with Melodic Death metal and Metalcore and bands is: Prayer for Cleaning, State Craft, Barrit, Undying and Dead to fall!

[@dekelohayon]

Finally someone that really get it!

[@hereticdeth7986]

@@dekelohayon ofcourse!

[@michaelguernsey1206]

That’s very interesting that you bring up Christian metal and how majority of them are metalcore and sing about loving Jesus. I noticed that as well, and while I have nothing against them making songs about loving God or finding strength from Jesus and all that, I think they are wasting their potential with metal by basically just writing heavy versions of normal church worships songs in the metalcore style. I don’t think Christian’s realize the vast amount of lyrical content they have in the Bible from stories, to Christian philosophy, to interesting character decisions and motivations, that can all be brought to light by other styles of metal. Like Metallica’s creeping death being about the angel of death killing all the first born children. Why don’t Christian’s sing and write songs like that? There is so much wasted potential for that. Instead they want to write lame worship songs in a rather boring metal genre just recycling the same themes and messages. Beast and the harlot by A7X was the first song to open my eyes to this and made me realize I feel more immersed in Christian lore listening to a VERY not Christian band, than actual Christian bands.

[@j.m.1928]

I totally get what you mean bro. That's why I'm not fond of the Christian label in general anymore. Yes, it's rooted in Christianity but at the end of the day it's still just music that the musician felt compelled to sing about. Contemporary Christian Music as a whole isn't even a real genre of music because the label is solely thematic, not a style of music. It just doesn't make sense imo.

[@whatsinameme5258]

This is largely a problem with the message coming before the art. Its why much of Christian media comes off as cringey, because it set out to have a message, rather than be organic art. Its gotta be art for arts sake that happens to have christian themes. Then it'll be good, because then it won't seem to be preaching.

[@michaelguernsey1206]

@@whatsinameme5258 very good point

[@multiplayermadness9315]

Not sure where From Autumn To Ashes would land but they were the shit!

[@Kriegter]

Mall store soundtrack friendly metal

[@whatsinameme5258]

Sure, but I think you are more likely to hear Judas Priest or Metallica in a public setting than any Melodic Metalcore band. Even All That Remains is too intense for normies.

[@HutWeenyJr.]

I always thought the cleans came from the punk influence on warped tour bands

[@blackcrov840]

Great video!

[@bitchsama8181]

I think metalcore is more like a mix of metal and hardcore punk. You can hear quite a lot of punk elements to it especially in August Burns Red and Parkway Drive.

[@chilliam00]

That's basically what it is but with each wave of metalcore there's more influences from different styles of metal or hardcore punk over the years, changing the sound. I'd say nowadays you either have the more modern djent/thall nu-metalcore style thing, or you have the metalcore revival which has bands from the hardcore scene bringing back metallic hardcore/early metalcore. Somewhere in the middle you have the octanecore stuff for maintstream rock radio.

[@Tonbizzle]

I'm just a sucker for cleans, so sue me. Killswitch is always on my rotation somewhere, along with Demon Hunter and I don't even like Jesus like that. Thanks for the music, though!

[@lunacyosrs8459]

Early morning gang.

[@onepersonsomepeoplestumble7067]

I'm pleasantly surprised you mentioned us horribly "cringe" Christians lol. But I wish you threw in Killswitch's "Disarm The Descent" album or the side project of Jesse Leach and Adam Dutkiewicz: Times Of Grace. But I guess you can only put so many of the same people in 1 video lol. Excellent video as always!

[@pvtratkicker]

I like how Metalheads and Christians were united through metalcore. I'm Christian but i do like both old school/new styles of metal also secular bands as well. (Gojira is my favorite band overall.) I do cringe sometimes when a band quotes scripture directly because I feel like the message is more important than creating a good song. An example of the perfect Christian metal band is impending doom.....even though they aren't metalcore they're deathcore.

[@XandieFireman]

Early.. done watching 😊

[@beardandhat]

light this city fucking rocks. where would you slot darkest hour? I always had them in the Melo-death/ metalcore bracket

[@whatsinameme5258]

Yes, Melodic Metalcore for sure. Maybe leaning a bit more Melodeath than most.

[@6balanced9]

Good job 👍

[@colecarstarphen8743]

Please do dsbm soon

[@Jackadiah]

Can I request some genres for future videos? I’d like to see Metalstep and US Power Metal Going over the differences between USPM and EUPM would make a really fun video The Metalstep one would also be fun as a sort of counterpart to the Trap Metal video

[@fallen119]

Your videos are great. I subbed.

[@failuretolaunchdrums]

W upload

[@devondorr8212]

There are some albums among the newer wave of metalcore I would like to consider melodic metalcore. For example: novelists (thier first 3 albums), kadinja's debut album, erra (drift era). They are not really influenced by the usual melodic metalcore influeces you mentioned in the video, but are still very different from the mainstream metal core today. Now that I think about it, it's basically mark holcomb core if you get what I mean🤣

[@chilliam00]

Dying Wish too, they literally sound like Killswitch Engage with melodeath riffs but with slightly more hardcore punk influences.

[@michaeltaaqui]

cool video as always, bro! i wanna ask you, Do you plan to make a video about Nu-metalcore (already seen some people call it Nu-core)? I don't know if I could extract so much content from this topic, but I believe that its existence as a genre really has relevance. bands that embody this nu-metalcore-ish sound that i know would be Attila, Alpha Wolf and Tallah

[@vx9330]

Melodic Metalcore doesn't require clean vocals and isn't defined by 'love song' writing imo (and genres shouldn't be defined by lyrical themes anyway). In particular you can argue that 85% of all songs are 'love songs' in some form, so I don't think the lyrical content of Melodic Metalcore sets it apart from other music. It only highlights that lyrical content of heavier subgenres are typically not love related. Personally I like clean vocals but I don't like 'emo' vocals. My favorite older bands from the 90's are As I Lay Dying, Heaven Shall Burn and Parkway Drive. I consider all of these Melodic Metalcore as their guitar work and a certain amount of their vocal work is melodic and 'hooky'.

[@anishtalpade2231]

Would love to see your take on Djentcore

[@whatsinameme5258]

My old series isn't quite as good, but I think you might like my old Djent video because its mostly about Djentcore.

[@anishtalpade2231]

@@whatsinameme5258 I did watch that one Djent - The Near Death Metal, right? I thought Djentcore would have a separate video. Thank you so much for making these videos. I listen to them while I work on my comics and it's so much fun!

[@JN-xb6pq]

I'm more into hardcore than metal, but I grew up in the melodic metalcore. My 2 cents on the melodic metalcore vs melodic deathcore is that they are both basically hardcore + melodeath, but the ratio of melodeath to hc is greater in melodic deathcore than melodic metalcore.

[@BattleKegGreg]

I absolutely love scar symmetry

[@WRVTHxvi]

Very early!

[@morgothbauglir906]

I have a bit of a hypothesis that Avenged sevenfold has a bit of a running theme of dealing with betrayal. And much in the same vein, I think a lot of melodic metalcore, and really a lot of 2000s metalcore has as much of a theme of betrayal and the insuing hatred and violence that can follow as it is romance. The chorus singing in reminiscence of the time before the betrayal, and the verse screaming in the agony and/or vengeance in retribution.

[@whatsinameme5258]

I'm not 100% sure what to make of it yet, but I have noticed a bit of theme in A7Xs album names. WAKING the Fallen. NIGHTMARE. Life is but a DREAM. It seems like their music feels less and less jaded with each release. Perhaps making peace with said betrayal?

[@morgothbauglir906]

@@whatsinameme5258 If you're understanding of Nightmare being about the stages grief of is correct, and by the end, the album's character has come to terms with themselves, then one could interpret the past three albums as that character attempting to find meaning in a world where vengeance doesn't drive them anymore. With Hail to the King being the attempt to find meaning in the exercise of power, The Stage being a search for meaning in the universe, and finally LIBAD, where they come to grips with the universe's lack of inherent meaning. Waking the Fallen being the most " pure metalcore " of their discography is also kind of on point through this lens, as it could be seen as when the betrayal took place. This idea has plenty of holes in it, such as where all the actual songs would fit, or what the hell Diamonds in the Rough is. One wouldn't be remiss to wonder where the hell Girl I Know or St James would fit, but it's fun to surmise, I suppose.

[@terriblecertainity]

the whole "every chorus is emo" approach turned me off for a long time. Took me years to learn that there ARE good bands in this style. Early KSE is great for example, with Jesse

[@vicentemunoz554]

I really think melodic deathcore could be the sweetspot that some would be looking for in this side of the metal spectrum. Including me

[@tinfoilhat3268]

Christian or not For Today sounds like it goes pretty damn hard

[@gayealisir5661]

Its the best damn genre of music in the world!

[@neonbelly4]

Hating a genre is for insecure teenagers, as i got older, i stopped hating any genre, i just ignore things I don't find interesting. Funny how the same songs and bands i used to hate, i love them now. In metal kids often compete to who listens to a heavier/real/true subgenre, and it's stupid. Enjoy what you enjoy, it's all subjective and up to a person. Anyway, cool videos, i dived into killswitch engage thanks to your first video on metalcore and it's my favorite band now, cheers

[@multiplayermadness9315]

Would 36 crazy fists make the melodic metal core list?

[@jamariusjones690]

Metal elites also believe that metallic hardcore are different than metalcore but in reality they’re the same thing because it’s all about fusion between hardcore and metal.

[@arkabiswas9370]

I think A7X is kinda hybrid between old-school and melodic metalcore. Tbh The Poison is the most melodic metalcore sounding thing...

[@terriblecertainity]

what do you think, is " melodic Thrash" a thing? Bands like Testament, Heathen, Artillery, Xentrix?

[@minigungaming5915]

Considering the two biggest bands of the thrash metal scene, Metallica and Megadeth, are both highly melodic I would say no

[@whatsinameme5258]

Testament sounds like 80s Metallica, andI would say that they are Thrash with Prog Metal influence, which is why they are more melodic than say Slayer. There is Technical Thrash though, which I do intend on making a video on, and if I am not mistaken, Xentrix fits into that category somewhat.

[@terriblecertainity]

@@whatsinameme5258 agree to that, plus there is the category of Death-Thrash ( Morbid Saint, Dmeolition Hammer etc) regarding Testament: I think, their riffage was a big influence on Melodeath and Metalcore. Listen to " Over The Wall" for example...the song is from 1985 ( demo version), and it's intro could easily fit unto " Slaughter Of The Soul". Their style is imho more melodic in riffage than Metallica's. I think, they deserve more credit for their impact. I truly think that we would not have Melodeath without them

[@whatsinameme5258]

I actually think Testament has some Death Metal in their sound too, at least on some albums, that could be why too.

[@terriblecertainity]

@@whatsinameme5258 , yes , in fact, "Demonic" was supposed to be a completely different band and more Death metal, but the label was against it. And Corpsegrinder cites Chuck Billy as one of his main influences

[@nahfamimgood]

man this genre was my childhood

[@peterb4143]

Bfmvs last album had some straight bangers take that boomers 😤

[@alternativerockemo6783]

10:20 Well the albums that you are showing in the picture above are not even "new" anymore, they are from 2010~2014 which is already considered "old" by today's standard (because the music evolved so much just in the last 10 years alone) Also these bands are not only metalcore alone but a mix of *Post-hardcore* (with some metalcore elements), so it's not quite the same genre as the original metalcore The 2010-2014 Post-hardcore scene was a very young movement of teens creating bands, it was overall much more melodic and more emotional than the original metalcore style Also including *Electronicore* which was a new sytele of Post-hardcore and Metalcore

[@whatsinameme5258]

True I was just being lazy with the meme I chose.

[@SirJaguar]

Not ironicaly, White Metal is an interesting genre within the Metal Sub-genres, having some acts in Thrash, Glam and even Death. Maybe White Metal can be the next topic of this series.

[@maksymkharchenko248]

I love this melodic death metal and core and many experimental bands. What is this movement? Melodeather?🤣

[@zrinkomaloseja2615]

Morning coffee with emo singing.

[@gergoretvari6373]

what is melodic hardcore tho?

[@74katong]

you can be beauty and the beast without having a woman in it you know, thy will be done

[@whatsinameme5258]

True

[@nonesense1672]

What is... Glam Metal even? How is it different from Hard Rock and Heavy Metal or NWOBHM.

[@whatsinameme5258]

I will to a video on it at some point. A proper one, since my old one isn't great. Its adjacent to NWOBHM for sure, but its not quite the same.

[@maryfreegirl2029]

Ew love

[@newkeysi6261]

What’s the songs 4:45?

[@whatsinameme5258]

Disconnect Me by The Agonist

[@Grisu.]

isnt metalcore melodic by default?

[@whatsinameme5258]

If you listen to Metallic Hardcore its more rythym based than melody based. Has more in common with Groove Metal than Melodic Metal. Listen to Hatebreed and you will see what I mean.

[@sillycatmeow1]

"melodic deathcore also exists" :(

[@sillycatmeow1]

myspace.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb]

what is metallic hardcore 😡

[@whatsinameme5258]

I'll get to it! :p

[@RibeiroGames12]

other name for metalcore which hc kids started adopting in the early 2000s after melodic metalcore became sucesseful using the same name

[@andydee1304]

Metalcore is emo for gym-bros. It's really shitty music for men who can't articulate their emotions.

[@Dieafreak]

Emoish? Emo doesn’t have really clean vocals and they aren’t sung like that. Rites of spring is a good example Your Gen Z.