What is Pakistan & Pakistani society? Idea of a nation ft Dr Nadeem Omar Tarar

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@subodhsingh9533 2 ай бұрын

Humble salute to Tarar Saab for his humble approach to understanding of Pakistan.

@RakeshSharma-bs2kd 4 ай бұрын

Please don’t blame 5 different languages a reason for the failure of Pakistan. The real reasons are its people and too much importance to religion.

@nikhildeshmukh6221 4 ай бұрын

Hope you are not typical north indian hindutva guy teaching pakistani to stay away from religion.

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

Unless diversity is embraced, nationalism is very shallow. What makes a nation is the comfort and ownership of each of it components, by their natives. Nationalism is definitely an imagined construct. Tagore warned of it way ahead of time. But no one has paid attention to demerits of its imposition in the subcontinent.

@manzar42 4 ай бұрын

What an interesting talk, Dr Tarar speaks well, I agree with almost everything he says. In my view making a country in the name of religion was an unwise thing. But now that pakistan exists, in order for it to flourish we need to accept and value difference. It is a very serious question that Mr Gurmani asks but watching his facial expressions makes it interesting to watch the videos. The screen lights up when he smiles. Mr Gurmani please smile more!

@TimesGlo 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Manzar!

@vinaydhopeshwarkar4567 4 ай бұрын

He is totally confused on Culture topic, he was not able to talk firmly on the topic

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

I think he has a wider picture. It's travel that makes us realise our misdirected narratives, especially in the subcontinent.

@hotfun07 4 ай бұрын

It is effect of Pakistan Studies Indoctrination.

@vijaysontyal2788 4 ай бұрын

i think the guest has so less knowledge about india, he only see india through social media or media only. india is way more complex than he thinks. indian society is so diverse that one ideology (hindutva as he said) cant dectate it. hinduism itself is so diverse and i think thats what makes india a plural society though the ruling party follows a pearticular ideology doesnt mean all the people of india are the followers of that ideology. as the guest seeing India. the main difference between india and pakistan is there was not real pushback for the dictatorship in pakistan and in india whenever one ideology or person tries to dictate india, the society fight backs to it. in case of Indira gandhi in emegency or in 2024 elections of india. so please sir dont say india is same as pakistan. the foundation of pakistan is based on relegion, singularity, wheres the foundation of india is based on pluralism no mater what kind of party is in power the essence of pluralism will always be there. unless the foundation of india is changed. and the fact is no one can change it. and the guest think cultural nationalism is separatist movement in india. the movements were about cultural representation and identification not about separation except Kashmir (it has another angles like pakistan, relegion only in kashmir valley not in entire kashmir state). Faisal Gurmani bhai please bring indian rational scholar to your podcast to know more about indian society and please open an india specific institute to study and learn about indian society, culture, traditions, geography, languages, different parts of india. so far only mujeeb afzal sir came close to understand india but he is more focussed on BJP, RSS there is more than a political ideology of a particular party in india.

@mozaffarahmad4846 4 ай бұрын

You are right. .

@randeepjasrotia2262 4 ай бұрын

Islamic nation theory was totally demolished with the separation of Bangladesh.

@snathan3198 4 ай бұрын

Waited until 13:41, hindu hatred started coming out of Tarar and I stopped watching. This is solely the reason this pkstn will never reform. Mr Tarar is NO different from any jihadi, shame on such munafique people!

@TimesGlo 4 ай бұрын

There was nothing like hindu hatred in whole discussion and we are strictly against any form and manifestation of hatred. This platform’s moto is to bridge the gap between intellectuals and common people across borders. Actually, your own prejudice has stopped you watching this video. At the end of the podcast we even discussed how state couldn’t protect their non Muslims.

@subhadippaul4494 4 ай бұрын

problem is they dont even understand it is Hindu hatred !

@commonman7730 4 ай бұрын

😂😂 Bhai Y disturbing them Let them be as they're

@uz7098 Ай бұрын

It is not hindu hatred but I think they are just misinformed about India. Pakistanis have been constantly indoctrinated by their media about the "Evil Hindu Nationalistic BJP" They don't realize that Hindus have no problem with any religion. Hindus are not fanatics. But radical Islamists have been causing disharmony in every part of the world. And when these radical islamists are handled strictly as per the law, they start playing their minority victim card.

@viking7769 4 ай бұрын

After a few points about Pak automatically starts looking and crying about India

@vinaydhopeshwarkar4567 4 ай бұрын

Pak KALME pur Bana Mulk hai. Pak is custodian of Islam. Pak must focus only on Quran, it is full of science. Pakistani are deviating from Quran

@syedumairshahgillani546 4 ай бұрын

😂

@sandipbhattacharyya7540 4 ай бұрын

😅

@1525boy 4 ай бұрын

😂🤣

@mozaffarahmad4846 4 ай бұрын

Very true.

@rakadus 4 ай бұрын

This oft repeated quote of "moth eaten Pakistan" needs to be stopped. Pakistan had and has even today the largest contiguous stretch of fertile arable land in Asia. Enough to have become a "food superpower". If a tiny place like Netherlands can have such a large food processing industry, just imagine how much Pakistan can do.

@ukhyarbunere1698 4 ай бұрын

If, but, if, but is not the answer

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

Not moth eaten, definitely not, mismanaged by a stunted vision for sure.

@cassinova5070 4 ай бұрын

Jis Punjab me Punjabi language ban ho waha k logo ka culture pr discussesion karna jaayaj nahi.

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

That is a disgrace!

@akshayyadav10008 4 ай бұрын

tarar surname is a hindu jaat

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

Jatts are an ethnic group spanning religions.

@AsifZ-m1l 3 ай бұрын

Problem is much deeper than 50 or 60 lakh have left the country, crores living there also think when and how they can leave. In such an enviornment no good development can happen.

@theknowledge6112 4 ай бұрын

Are Tarar sahab aap jarur Jatt ho, yaha India me bahut Hindu Jatt hai with Tarar surname

@wasifmumtaz9661 4 ай бұрын

Nadeem Omer is an under rated public intellectual. He is always on the mark in cultural and anthropological issues.

@subodhsingh9533 2 ай бұрын

Set of rules for people to facilitate social integration at a homogenous patch of land may be called religion.Patch of land indicates and is dependent on climatic conditions and decides fooding habit.The moment any word is missed, it starts to loose its implications and if left unaddressed,for a long time it is misimplicated by not one but many.

@hotfun07 4 ай бұрын

For Mr. Tarar, being Jatt, Jatt culture shall suffice 😂

@youknow6968 19 күн бұрын

This was one single long randi rona session, it's so tragic that this is the quality of discussion we get from Pakistani intellectuals, it's truly sad.

@hotfun07 4 ай бұрын

Btw, which Turkish, Iranian or Central Asian cuisine is popular in Pakistan? Kuchh bhi Bakwaas karni hai bas 😅 Tarar saab, kes rakho aur Amrit shakho. Jatt ka Islam se kya lena dena? Sikhi mein laut aayo. Bole so nihaal, Sat Sri Akal 🙏🏻

@babarchatha8200 4 ай бұрын

Insightful discussion.

@subodhsingh9533 2 ай бұрын

Think of a culture,which developed at aplace,where there was no cultivation.

@SouthindianNarendra Ай бұрын

If the topic is. Pakistan then the answer is India, why do u always bring india in every topic. Why u all cant just come up with real problems😊

@akshayyadav10008 4 ай бұрын

why pakistani always speak wrong trust and facts

@subodhsingh9533 2 ай бұрын

Jinhone inhe bhaga ke pakistan banaya ,unhe kya farq padta hai jo ye bhaag hi jaye?

@youknow6968 19 күн бұрын

What a boring discussion, what's Pakistan, a simple answer transformed into 10 plus minutes of self loathing childish attempt at sounding intellectual. Both of you are sadly lacking in understanding of issues being discussed, all the more shocking because the guest is apparently a doctor in something. Pakistan is the land and nation of the Indus. Pakistan is one part of the wider Muslim identity of South Asia. Pakistan is a nation that gained independence in post British governance solution, a solution for this region of India, India was never a country in history, so the term partition is incorrect. There are various nuances involved, but what he presented is grossly wrong. Just self loathing.

@indrajeetbhagat9400 4 ай бұрын

Pakistani. England. America .Canada mein. Bhi .. imran khan ki party. Nawaz sharif ke party ...Ke. Slogan. Lagate mil jaayenge. . .

@MDVaashir 4 ай бұрын

Pakistan was formed for muslims. We are muslims because we follow Islam. So our culture needs to follow the tenets of Islam. Islam makes clear distinction between kufar and Muslims. Hindu culture like music and dance are discouraged in Islam. So Pakistani culture cannot be the culture of the Hindus.

@TimesGlo 4 ай бұрын

There is a clear distinction between Islam and religious practices. Promoting hate against non Muslims is something Islam never teaches its followers. You are filled with hatred and bigotry!

@rakadus 4 ай бұрын

@@TimesGloGood try!

@asadaziz6429 4 ай бұрын

So funny.

@MDVaashir 4 ай бұрын

@@TimesGlo I have not said anything hateful against other religions. Just said that dance and Music cannot be Pakistani/Muslim culture.

@endeavour1349 4 ай бұрын

@MDVaashir yet it is muslim artists who are in the forefront. Awadh, whose language you adopted as a lingua franca was a hub of art and culture and the much vaunted ganga-jamni tehzeeb.

@subodhsingh9533 2 ай бұрын

Firstly Insaan and then Musalman.If that be so why Mullah is there?😊

@GurvinderSingh-gk3kv Ай бұрын

Pakistanio Urdu shod kar Punjabi, balochi, Sindhi ,kashmeeri ,apnao . Apki 99%problems door ho jayengi

@akshayyadav10008 4 ай бұрын

islam is nothing with dividersity

@itzbeleiver 3 ай бұрын

Wtf is Mohammed bin kasim sindh m tashreef laye😅 ye budhdha hosh m h

@Xxxx-hw7nk 4 ай бұрын

Pakistan is great because pakistan saved hindu from fanatic islam

@hotfun07 4 ай бұрын

No. Pakistan is a Blunder BECAUSE SO MANY CONVERTED MUSLIMS COULD NOT BE BROUGHT BACK TO HINDUISM AND SIKHISM! THEY ARE NOW TRYING THEIR BEST TO APE ARABS, SOMETHIBG THEY HAVENT IMPROVED UPON SINCE LAST 1000 OR SO YEARS.

@ChefbyMistake 4 ай бұрын

We don’t have a culture.

@indrajeetbhagat9400 4 ай бұрын

Kaun. Samjhayega .Gulshan ek phool se nahi banta hai... Lekin. Jis religion mein logic Ka koi space nahi. Ho .. har.... Pakistani muslaman ....Topic. Koi ho . Har. Baat ke. 2 line ke baad..... Religious. Word.