What is RNG? Gamers' Love-Hate Relationship with Luck in Esports

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5 жыл бұрын

We talk a lot about player skill in esports, and for good reason: most of your favourite games give stars plenty of opportunity to show their supremacy.
But games usually also include a certain degree of the unexpected, the uncontrollable - what we all know as RNG.
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@jakehaseker9188
@jakehaseker9188 5 жыл бұрын
"I went into Journalism cause I can't do this shit." I have never felt something so relatable in my entire life.
@benjaminpryer8215
@benjaminpryer8215 4 жыл бұрын
I want to like this post, but it's at 666, and I'm not fucking that up.
@Circurose
@Circurose 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God I have only one math class in Journalism.
@khongbiettuc7445
@khongbiettuc7445 5 жыл бұрын
"random crits is fair and balance"
@toinougrondin1061
@toinougrondin1061 5 жыл бұрын
tf2 here ?
@motori8088
@motori8088 5 жыл бұрын
RANDOM BURST OF SKILL
@hermanshade
@hermanshade 5 жыл бұрын
random multicast is balance XD
@khongbiettuc7445
@khongbiettuc7445 5 жыл бұрын
@@toinougrondin1061 yeah , i was expecting it here , even tho tf2 rank don,t have random crit
@never-2174
@never-2174 5 жыл бұрын
Surely they haven't seen random crits on a skill 1 by phantom assasin which is capable of 1 shotting to death low hp supports
@lplwin7539
@lplwin7539 5 жыл бұрын
rng. A team that underestimate and disrespect g2. Ended up losing :
@ThePikeOfDestiny
@ThePikeOfDestiny 5 жыл бұрын
lmao i love how renegades calls themselves that
@user-gy2nq2im5k
@user-gy2nq2im5k 5 жыл бұрын
简灯笼
@petrichor04_
@petrichor04_ 5 жыл бұрын
Momokuma profile pic
@flashorb2707
@flashorb2707 5 жыл бұрын
Still, won both Lpl splits and Msi. They had a dam good year.
@franky9868
@franky9868 5 жыл бұрын
Rng was quite arrogant, but I didnt see any proof shows they disrespect g2 players. Actually G2 Perkz publicly blamed RNG for cheating in the game without solid proof
@CaptainRedbeard.
@CaptainRedbeard. 5 жыл бұрын
"What would you do with the money if you won?" "Hookers and Cocaine!" That man speaks for all of us! What a fookin legend!
@sekuraya8146
@sekuraya8146 5 жыл бұрын
Doodoo head
@jjd4555
@jjd4555 5 жыл бұрын
GoldfishOrgasm he speaks the language of the gods, doesn’t he?
@roza4805
@roza4805 4 жыл бұрын
If yoi actually win lottery, I'm sure you won't do that.
@simpsbelongtothegulags3702
@simpsbelongtothegulags3702 4 жыл бұрын
@@sekuraya8146 thats a huge waste of money
@robertli3600
@robertli3600 3 жыл бұрын
If you listen closely, he was just about to say "I'm kidding" before getting cut off by the lady lol
@altan4403
@altan4403 5 жыл бұрын
RNG is most important in Tinder
@MrKarateHandlesYou
@MrKarateHandlesYou 3 жыл бұрын
That's more probability then RNG
@xCookys
@xCookys 5 жыл бұрын
“Overwatch stays away from RNG” *flashbacks to literal coin flips*
@tterminitte2704
@tterminitte2704 4 жыл бұрын
Also what i thought
@The_Ajna
@The_Ajna 4 жыл бұрын
Holy ptsd
@martensokk6731
@martensokk6731 3 жыл бұрын
*cough*loot boxes*cough*
@tobiasbehnke939
@tobiasbehnke939 3 жыл бұрын
The random matchmaking...
@kio9906
@kio9906 3 жыл бұрын
Bloom is rng what does he mean?
@antimitsu
@antimitsu 5 жыл бұрын
I already know what RNG is and yet I keep finding myself watching your videos.Well done
@davidmiller8009
@davidmiller8009 5 жыл бұрын
I was actually just trying to explain to my girlfriend some gamer terms. RNG being one of them. This was just yesterday lol. This vid is perfect, I'm going to show her. Thanks.
@dayzo3024
@dayzo3024 5 жыл бұрын
So why are you teaching her? For like just letting her know, or is she getting into gaming too?
@harisahmed1
@harisahmed1 5 жыл бұрын
MaxLevel How is that your business ?
@CERTAIND00M
@CERTAIND00M 4 жыл бұрын
Damn it, David! For the last time, you can't refer to your mom as your "girlfriend", even to strangers online. It's just... not healthy.
@KartikayKaul
@KartikayKaul 4 жыл бұрын
She must be a mathematician and humouring you.
@johnnymcthunderbolt6670
@johnnymcthunderbolt6670 4 жыл бұрын
"Spying intensifies"
@destructor6426
@destructor6426 5 жыл бұрын
Me, a CSGO player : "Wait where do you have RNG is this game?" theScore esports : *shows Cold's jump* Me : "oh yeah, how did I forgot x)" Great job on the video guys, always doing a great job with that format
@superexcel5550
@superexcel5550 5 жыл бұрын
Same xD
@yujiakweh
@yujiakweh 5 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that the spray is also affected by rng.
@MHNoobie
@MHNoobie 5 жыл бұрын
100% cold was cheating, for someone of his caliber to make a stupid play like jumping with an awp is unthinkable. First off, you gets a kill and sees that they are rushing him, the first person has yet to clear apps and he has more than enough time to reposition and play off his teammate on short. Instead, he goes for the 1 in a million chance of getting a jumping no scope at that distance and he gets 2 kills out of that. NO pro player will sensibly make the choice of jumping for a no scope AT THAT DISTANCE. Then you look at the score, liquid was on match point with nobody on B site except for cold, they trade and get good afterplant spots. I'm just surprised that there wasn't a community uproar about this incident Jumping from CT onto A on Dust 2 is bad enough and its already so close, imagine doing that at B apps on mirage
@1M4C1999
@1M4C1999 5 жыл бұрын
@@MHNoobie its called desperation. even if he was cheating, no hack could line that double up for him. LG had nothing left to lose and they played like it
@Dab_east
@Dab_east 5 жыл бұрын
MHNoobie lmao
@Techer111
@Techer111 5 жыл бұрын
This is basically the whole problem with Fortnite when it comes to esports, the game is almost half RNG.
@AGnar0k
@AGnar0k 5 жыл бұрын
The only skill in Fortnite is effective building, the rest is almost completely up to RNG which inherently isn't a bad thing but one of the big reasons most hardcore players don't play Fortnite, like Shroud etc. Personally, I also don't prefer RNG so I'm leaning more towards hardcore First Person Shooters.
@AGnar0k
@AGnar0k 5 жыл бұрын
@@D00000T I'm pretty sure building in Fortnite is also something that takes skill and practice, but the gunplay is almost entirely RNG...
@itsmxrk.9469
@itsmxrk.9469 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the idea of fortnite is to adapt and survive to every situation. That's why the esports scene is even a thing. Players have learned uncountable chances, rotations, everything about the game itself
@krasavits6508
@krasavits6508 5 жыл бұрын
Ok RNG is the whole point of the game and if you wanna be good you have to work with what you got
@jonathanmarquez7631
@jonathanmarquez7631 5 жыл бұрын
@Jayden Ou if it dies so what. If anything, blackout is doing a better job at the battle royal genre
@Derpy-qg9hn
@Derpy-qg9hn 4 жыл бұрын
"without rng, some of our favourite moments in games would never happen" *shows footage that could VERY easily happen without rng*
@yaboi821
@yaboi821 4 жыл бұрын
Daigo moment is straight skill no rng
@kingly456
@kingly456 5 жыл бұрын
7:11 You forgot TF2s random crits Looking at you ubersaw
@violetchan6402
@violetchan6402 4 жыл бұрын
*-nO rAnDoM cRiTs* A stat that shouldn’t have to be noted for any weapon at all, but instead should be the default.
@crabhm5537
@crabhm5537 4 жыл бұрын
@@violetchan6402 random crits are fair and balanced
@jester6819
@jester6819 4 жыл бұрын
Melee weapons have innately higher random crit chance than guns (30% if I remember correctly), but yeah. Some weapons, like the ubersaw and the skullcutter for me recently get way too many 'random' crits that it feels almost guaranteed.
@Doc_of_derp
@Doc_of_derp 4 жыл бұрын
what about the vitasaw. 75%of my hits with it crit
@krenzzie7290
@krenzzie7290 5 жыл бұрын
When you aim DEAD on your opponent in CS:GO with -3gap crosshair, yet you somehow manage to miss...
@vitalnutrients744
@vitalnutrients744 5 жыл бұрын
Why I quit csgo along with crouch walking at 34% movement speed 100% accuracy while moving and worst of all ADAD SPAMMING
@mataskieza
@mataskieza 5 жыл бұрын
Please next about one trick pony story... asking 100times
@StonedSpagooter
@StonedSpagooter 5 жыл бұрын
Is this a person or just about people who pick one character?
@mohammadbilal4860
@mohammadbilal4860 5 жыл бұрын
Kole Tokar Yes, OTP refers to a player who only plays one character...
@jobinjose3976
@jobinjose3976 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mohammad!!
@StonedSpagooter
@StonedSpagooter 5 жыл бұрын
@@mohammadbilal4860 But wouldn't that be kind of silly? "there are players that play one character and nobody likes it" the end. Maybe im missing something :(
@noname-ss8pr
@noname-ss8pr 5 жыл бұрын
@@StonedSpagooter It's not really silly when you thing about it, many players decide to learn only one character but then get to know all of its strengths and weaknesses and all of its even smallest micromechanics. I guess it just comes to a players preference whether they want to learn many characters on a decent level or just one on an amazing level. From what I see usually the one trick ponies actually end up at the top of the ladder due to their amazing champion and matchup knowledge, but if a player is aiming to play for any Esport team they will most likely need to know many champions at such amazing level because it would be so easy to ban or counter only one character
@thesteadfastduelist6258
@thesteadfastduelist6258 5 жыл бұрын
*Is RNG the reason why it takes me ten shots to do forty damage but my opponent can one shot me with 200 health in Fortnite?*
@MajorMlgNoob
@MajorMlgNoob 5 жыл бұрын
Yep it's definitely not that you can't aim and your movement sucks
@tuiskuaanismaa9504
@tuiskuaanismaa9504 5 жыл бұрын
@@MajorMlgNoob you know that aim is rng in fortnite right?
@tuiskuaanismaa9504
@tuiskuaanismaa9504 5 жыл бұрын
@@MajorMlgNoob im a semi pro csgo player, i think my aim is good enough
@xuan.1611
@xuan.1611 4 жыл бұрын
MajorMlgNoob i mean he could have been using a pistol and the enemy is using a sniper rifle
@royalvarez24
@royalvarez24 4 жыл бұрын
@@xuan.1611 or he was on controller
@everettlogan2433
@everettlogan2433 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen videos on KZbin about stuff I didn't know about, that was filled to the brim with stuff I did know... This video about something I DO know about (RNG) is filled to the brim with stuff I didn't know... Well done, great video
@madongcrippen1088
@madongcrippen1088 5 жыл бұрын
The content is getting better and better XD. Love this channel ☺.
@vonzentzo5133
@vonzentzo5133 5 жыл бұрын
Eks de
@nasnas
@nasnas 5 жыл бұрын
Fortnite = RNG
@Rowojon
@Rowojon 5 жыл бұрын
Yes? Opening Chests
@SoeZ-M4
@SoeZ-M4 5 жыл бұрын
"Aim" has a little of RNG
@didacticcrane2757
@didacticcrane2757 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i lost a ton of match because of this Bullshit
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT
@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT 5 жыл бұрын
RNJesus
@didacticcrane2757
@didacticcrane2757 5 жыл бұрын
@@ALLAHwithdaughterALLAT RNGeez, i lost
@nathanmena2973
@nathanmena2973 5 жыл бұрын
The only luck i had was subscribing to your channel and getting more of these awsome videos. Keep it up Guys.
@remy8708
@remy8708 5 жыл бұрын
I thought this video was about the esports team RNG
@dustdt
@dustdt 5 жыл бұрын
What about the second part of the title?
@georgeappentsen7021
@georgeappentsen7021 5 жыл бұрын
Saltine Salad NRG?
@NeoSwitch
@NeoSwitch 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgeappentsen7021 I think he talk about RNG, Royal Never Give Up
@Enrage_
@Enrage_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@NeoSwitch it must be Renegades, btw Royal never- who ??
@VV-sb2ez
@VV-sb2ez 5 жыл бұрын
@@Enrage_ It's a League team. The one that was hyped to be on "The Golden Road"
@mrbilter83
@mrbilter83 5 жыл бұрын
this is the best thumbnail EVER
@chepemasacuata1
@chepemasacuata1 5 жыл бұрын
8:57 comedy gold
@Asdf-wf6en
@Asdf-wf6en 3 жыл бұрын
If there was no rng that would have happened more often. Lol
@loreee2001
@loreee2001 5 жыл бұрын
I really like watching every videos that has this amazing journalist! xD
@fussel676
@fussel676 4 жыл бұрын
"The player might blame the rng for losing" well duh. If one card can destroy every card on my side by choosing a random spell well sgit yea its not my fault. Wtf
@juklo4868
@juklo4868 5 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a vid on C9 bracket run in rocket league
@rogmcc23
@rogmcc23 5 жыл бұрын
Juklo22 ridiculous upset, idk how dignitas lost still in shock
@lucasolivieri1443
@lucasolivieri1443 5 жыл бұрын
@@rogmcc23 c9 just was a better team that day
@Ghostkiller__166
@Ghostkiller__166 5 жыл бұрын
Fact of life is all card games are 100% RNG, you play the hand you're dealt. A solution could be something like, Yu-Gi-Oh for example. Instead of 5 randomly drawn cards there's a "players choice" factor. A player can choose to have 2-4 guaranteed cards pre hand, a player choosing 2 would draw 2 guaranteed card of choice with the exception of one guaranteed card of choice on the top deck. A player choosing 3 cards draws only 3 guaranteed cards of choice, no exceptions. And a player choosing 4 draws 4 guaranteed cards of choice, but they can't draw a card on their first turn. That's a example I think would work well in skill based card games to make it slightly less RNG.
@G0GeTAm0n
@G0GeTAm0n 5 жыл бұрын
I love how your content is increasing in both quality and quantity, but that being said. That weird voice recording sound quality dump at 9:58 to 10:08 tho
@rashadbassam
@rashadbassam 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual.
@gr4yf0x8
@gr4yf0x8 5 жыл бұрын
hey guys could you do 'the story of Cloud9 (Rocket League)' ? love the videos keep it up
@estebanchapa606
@estebanchapa606 5 жыл бұрын
You guys do such a great job
@Zmargo702
@Zmargo702 5 жыл бұрын
6:08 tbh i was just waiting for this clip i KNEW you guys would put it in here shout out to my boy synapse
@smam7667
@smam7667 5 жыл бұрын
I fucking love this guy, keep this up. Amazing stuff!!!!
@sleepy_from_wc7609
@sleepy_from_wc7609 4 жыл бұрын
Overwatch RNG: Hanzo arrows coming out of nowhere and popping u in the head
@somewabalan231
@somewabalan231 5 жыл бұрын
RNG is the worst in roblox simulators when it comes to pets. Your friend gets a legendaries and the best you get is an uncommon
@seeker7702
@seeker7702 3 жыл бұрын
Your video is appreciated.
@PrinnyMi
@PrinnyMi 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised and disappointed you didn't talk about simpler RNG stuff like the game deciding who goes first or what side they start on. Terrorists vs CT, blue vs purple, etc. I know for first tournament matches that can be decided through non-rng elements but in solo queue and casual play it's definitely a thing. Still a great and entertaining video though! ❤️
@johncharlesgarcia4088
@johncharlesgarcia4088 5 жыл бұрын
"what is meta" next please!
@GreenArrow916
@GreenArrow916 5 жыл бұрын
Most efficient tactic applicable
@stevenmonserrate308
@stevenmonserrate308 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest I thought this video was about the esports org... Good vid though! XD
@user-rd5in4ik5p
@user-rd5in4ik5p 5 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up: Twisted Fate's RNG is based on E calculations of extra gold per minion kill, W's card sequence is based upon the in-game clock and seasoned mains can keep track of it for quick surprise casts.
@Hayds126
@Hayds126 5 жыл бұрын
I like it when there is enough rng that generates hype but not to the point of taking away from actual skill. For example Pokémon (with crit chance) or smash bros (Luigi misfire, peach turnip)
@AGnar0k
@AGnar0k 5 жыл бұрын
Rainbow Six Siege shield operator's hipfire, literally the most hated RNG in the game...
@AGnar0k
@AGnar0k 5 жыл бұрын
@@D00000T lol but I was talking about Siege not CS:GO
@Linux_MissingNo
@Linux_MissingNo 5 жыл бұрын
What hipfire spread? The true game is alpha pack opening. Alpha pack charm #1, fite me
@AGnar0k
@AGnar0k 5 жыл бұрын
@@Linux_MissingNo lmao, I don't have a problem with Alpha Packs, but those Premium event paid-only packs are fucken' stupid.
@romajimamulo
@romajimamulo 5 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, but where would Tetris fall on the RNG scale? The pieces you get are RNG, but the same ones go to both players.
@lillyie
@lillyie 5 жыл бұрын
some RNG. the pieces can be controlled to match the player's desire
@genoblue7996
@genoblue7996 3 жыл бұрын
With the Tetris league, the CTWC, there are hundreds of predetermined piece sets, and the only RNG is which one is selected for the match
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc
@GustavoSilva-ny8jc 7 ай бұрын
Great video
@benpenny3005
@benpenny3005 4 жыл бұрын
Thought they weren’t going to add the coldzera awp clip but they managed to sneak it in a the end
@isreallearsi6349
@isreallearsi6349 5 жыл бұрын
1:20 lol
@xyon9090
@xyon9090 5 жыл бұрын
*Combat sports doesn't have RNG* Pure skill but its still fun to watch.
@MajorMlgNoob
@MajorMlgNoob 5 жыл бұрын
Idk man the matt could get slick in a certain spot
@JDragon272
@JDragon272 2 жыл бұрын
Outside this - there’s also RNG in Pokémon, that’s ok for me, not really in online play (I moved on from that) but for Shiny Hunting. With interesting cases on how to manipulate or just let it happen in finding a Shiny Pokémon. Or methods like Chaining like Poke’Radar or Chain Fishing. Or famously the Masuda Method (breeding). Or even utilizing a Pokémon’s Ability (if first in the party) to make a Wild Pokémon have the Opposite Gender (Cute Charm) or Same Ability as the one in your team (Syncronize). While previous games to have the normal odds of “1 - 8,192” … while more modern games reduced it in half to now be the new chances of finding a Shiny in the wild being “1 - 4,096”.
@GalaxyHap
@GalaxyHap 4 жыл бұрын
RNG can also be found in other card games like MTG Arena and surprisingly Duel Links, because of the intensity of the game, and randomness of each card you draw; even everything in Pokemon has a tiny level of RNG from the TCG to the Video Game Championships, to the recent Pokemon Go Championships.
@jacedamon9431
@jacedamon9431 5 жыл бұрын
WAIT! You didn’t talk about Kleptomancy the king of all LoL RNG!
@jetpackerpaul28
@jetpackerpaul28 5 жыл бұрын
Jace Damon Zoe w?
@ethan24343
@ethan24343 5 жыл бұрын
The Smash Bros Series and Luigi's misfire even more annoying then peach item pulls
@5688gamble
@5688gamble 3 жыл бұрын
Games with RNG can be very competitive. I don't know how Puyo Puyo (my favourite competitive puzzle game) would work without it. The entire premise is to order the chaos generated by the RNG as best you can and it is a very skill oriented game, yet no matter how good you are and how many options you try to cover, if you get a flood or drought of the wrong colours at the wrong moment, you just lose, and it is very frustrating, especially if you lose a whole match through heavy bad luck.
@jhonnycastlejr.9424
@jhonnycastlejr.9424 5 жыл бұрын
The mustache was just a tease!? Colin, you're too good ;)
@ralphso5567
@ralphso5567 5 жыл бұрын
It's not that I like RNG in esports but they make the loudest cheers from the viewers even on stream. Love it or hate it RNG is the wild card that wakes people up
@Asdf-wf6en
@Asdf-wf6en 3 жыл бұрын
People don’t need rng to make them excited. Astralis vs fnatic would be exciting to watch.
@itzFinn_
@itzFinn_ 5 жыл бұрын
Fate/ Grand Order = WORST TO BEST RNG just saying X(
@bluefable3416
@bluefable3416 5 жыл бұрын
Fgo be like 90%crit chance=no crit,30=crit.
@xuanathan
@xuanathan 5 жыл бұрын
You do not know pain until you try and run an arts crit team.
@ralphso5567
@ralphso5567 5 жыл бұрын
@@xuanathan bring caster gil
@minami9710
@minami9710 5 жыл бұрын
Yes the worst
@MrTigracho
@MrTigracho 4 жыл бұрын
"Yorokobe Shonen"
@r.c.beringuela2426
@r.c.beringuela2426 5 жыл бұрын
As an old school D&D player and boardgamer who has a love & hate relationship with dice, I love this video!
@icecreamcake5381
@icecreamcake5381 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when you get a crit from that 1% crit chance rune from the older version of League? Feelsgoodman
@eonnagima2633
@eonnagima2633 5 жыл бұрын
TFW a video about RNG, but not a single mention of Pokemon. Even if it's eSports scene is a JOKE, the game is popular enough for it to have warranted a reference.
@alex-ander-13
@alex-ander-13 5 жыл бұрын
esports*
@wavedash-
@wavedash- 5 жыл бұрын
Overall this video was really lacking in concrete examples of RNG. CSGO is the only game adequately represented. It missed crits in pro League and early-game RNG in HS. Could've mentioned spawns in SC, characters like Faust or Platinum in anime fighters, basically everything in Pokemon, or colors in Puyo Puyo Tetris, a true gentlemen's game.
@greedisbad9890
@greedisbad9890 5 жыл бұрын
@@wavedash- if they cover that they have to explain lots of stuff about dota (there is lots of skill with %) Because the video is about rng and i think its good enough
@pantherviii7255
@pantherviii7255 5 жыл бұрын
EonBen No one cares about pokemon, it's a childrens cartoon made to sell merchandise and the entire franchise has lost all of it's relevancy.
@KC-bg1th
@KC-bg1th 5 жыл бұрын
PantherVIII Ask a kid if he knows what chain breeding is and what he’s supposed to do with a destiny knot and everstone.
@brettow5177
@brettow5177 5 жыл бұрын
Overwatch has RNG on map designs for example Hollywood has elevators that can start at any time and Busan’s Meka Base also has moving walls.
@alexliu101
@alexliu101 5 жыл бұрын
That's not actually the case. Both the walls and the Hollywood platform operate on a timer which means you can time them if you're planning on making a play with them (something around 13 seconds in Meka Base). The Hollywood platform is the same but it's not always visible, so most pros acknowledge that while it's not RNG, it feels like RNG which is enough to merit it's removal, which I can kinda agree with. But as far as moving platforms are concerned there's no true RNG in Overwatch.
@rkiwtir1146
@rkiwtir1146 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexliu101 also most shotgun spread is random. You sometimes get enough random crits from the pellets of the shot to one shot someone (reaper or hog's left click)
@blackwood4734
@blackwood4734 5 жыл бұрын
They fix the "Shotgun spread" a while ago to "Prevent affection of RNG" The only true RNG left is S76 rife but they just gave him a big buff to reduce the RNG affect: First 9 shots will not spread (straight up in 1 line)
@Tribi
@Tribi 5 жыл бұрын
the score is so wholesome
@mustang8206
@mustang8206 3 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair even in regular sports there is always a level of unpredictability. You could go to kick a field a goal and the ball gets hit by the end wind, you could catch the flu the night before a game etc
@wilfulbuckle13
@wilfulbuckle13 5 жыл бұрын
Why do you guys never talk about Smite?
@MellorineKnight
@MellorineKnight 5 жыл бұрын
heartstone is rng heavy no shit, it's a card game
@paradigme7516
@paradigme7516 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you mentioned Rocket league in a video. Even if it was only for 10 seconds. The esport is growing. And it's nice that more attention is still being brought to it
@TryHardCentral
@TryHardCentral 4 жыл бұрын
TF2 is also RNG as hell. Critical rockets coming at u doing 3 times more damage than normal and no damage falloff
@violetchan6402
@violetchan6402 4 жыл бұрын
TryHardCentral “b-BuT iT’s CaSuAl! It WoUlD rUiN tHe SiLlInEsS iF tHeY wErE rEmOvEd!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!11” No. Just.. just no.
@BlueLightningSky
@BlueLightningSky 5 жыл бұрын
RNG like Yog Sarron or crits or even first bullet RNG are absolute garbage. It's basically let's reward a player for playing incorrectly or not lining up their shots. RNG can test decision making but more often than not it is just a dice roll. Cards like Yog Sarron are the prime example of bad RNG. There is zero decision making required and instead you are being asked to math out how likely it is that you will get the cards you need in that order. It's basically a gamble but unlike something like a 50/50 in a fighting game, you are gambling against the game not the player. And even Valve knows how bullshit it is because they build RNG protection into Dota 2. Good RNG is spawns, drops in Warcraft 3, and maybe weird fighting game character who get random moves or whatever. Even card shuffling is good RNG. All of these force you to make a decision after the game has rolled a dice. First bullet inaccuracy, crit chances all require you to make a decision then have the computer roll a dice.
@mapotofu1841
@mapotofu1841 5 жыл бұрын
I actually thought this video was about Royal Never Give Up. kill me
@getbeaned3602
@getbeaned3602 5 жыл бұрын
Bloom is just something people need to get use to, it takes skill to control it, don't just hold shoot when in action with weapons that have bloom, feather it don't hold
@kintsuki99
@kintsuki99 5 жыл бұрын
The number sequence repeating is part of the random number generation... some "random" generators are programmed to not repeat the result and by itself means that it is not random.
@LSSTmusic
@LSSTmusic 5 жыл бұрын
RNG has nothing to do with an interesting viewing experience. Look at how hype tekken is. You can just appreciate how good a player is at playing a game. I'm not saying there's no place for RNG in Esports, but the argument made here is really strange to me
@nurrohmatadiputra5378
@nurrohmatadiputra5378 4 жыл бұрын
Simply put, RNG makes it so skill aren't the only important trait, requering other such as the ability to judge and make a quick decision out of some scenerio. Thanks to that when there are difference in player skill the match would become exciting as it would even out thanks to RNG. Imagine in Tekken there are a fight between a pro and a noob surely it would become a stomp that isn't even worth watching and in reality it would take a lot of RNG to even this out. On the other hand if there are two people evenly skilled even without RNG you can still have an exiticing match as both will square off to outpeform the other. But let's say both are pro but one is better compared to other. That would make it that the better player would have a much better chance to win which is really good for e-sport. But that would make the other gamer fan not sharing the enthusiasm as their idol (or whatever they are called) are about to get his shit handled to him reducing the overall exitement the game could have. With some RNG though it might be possible that a chance for comeback to exist more frequently instead of merely relying on the other making a mistake. all that's left is wether who can make use of it better. This is my opinion on the matter though feel free to disagree
@finalfrontier001
@finalfrontier001 3 жыл бұрын
@@nurrohmatadiputra5378 that is not true you can call someone a "noob" but you have to prove it is. RNG is not proof that you are good but lucky. Facts = Lucky that why RNG do not do good.
@nurrohmatadiputra5378
@nurrohmatadiputra5378 3 жыл бұрын
@@finalfrontier001 well yeah, RNG is literally luck stat based if people have stat in real life. But RNG also force player to adapt better to the situation, wether to gamble away or take as little risk as possible. That's why pro player generally avoid luck based weapon or character because it's a hassle as it is both inconsistent and doesn't reflect their true skill (the better they are doesn't correlate to a better gameplay). However, what good RNG bring into the table is random event where quick thinking become important in order to get a hold of/take advantage of the situation. What bad RNG bring into the table is random event that just flat out give the win to one side or at best give a lot/unexpexted advantage over one. Tripping in smash for example is a bad RNG because in smash, you don't need to exchange a lot of clash in order to launch the opponent. Two or three combo is usually sufficient, sometime it would take one good combo in order to launch the opponent from 0%. What tripping does is a guarentee combo on tripped opponent. It's just too free for too much. Then try critical hit in Dota 2. It is the source of big burst damage for right click hero. How big? Depend on the difference of power between attacking and defending one. But usually getting a crit aren't enough to decide who won the clash unless you play one of those RNG based hero. I don't know the exact number of critical needed to kill the enemies but critical just multiply your attack power so if you need 16 hit to kill then you need 7-9 critical hit in a row with 2x multiplier, yes 9 because the enemy hero can regen enough health to survive the 8 crit. Crit chance are low (20-30%) but hero attack a lot so it even out. Team clash usually last for quarter to half a minute so there's bound to be a lot of hit that need to be exchanged. Yes, this RNG still suck since if two character with the same attack stat and defense stat exchange hit, the one who got critical hit the most would win. But at the same time it give the losing player time to try to flee and regroup. It can be fatal but it would need the winning team to try to get more lead so they don't have to rely on RNG luck again to capitalise on that win otherwise the tempo might be stolen by the enemy because of RNG, while the losing team would need to find a profitable engangement in order to get their tempo up again. This might not be the best example of a good RNG, but this should suffice as an example of how RNG can force a change in gamestate and thus advance the game. And what does that got to do with spectator having fun? Well anticipation of who's going to won. The match won't be decided until a big enough gap is made that not even RNG can safe them.
@cyriszx
@cyriszx 5 жыл бұрын
Runescape = The king of RNG
@kuchigyz6231
@kuchigyz6231 5 жыл бұрын
The Babbling Book play was so famous in the HS Community that the card quickly became more popular as The Pavling Book. He also received a real life copy of the book as a present.
@Marronii
@Marronii 5 жыл бұрын
Rocket League can involve RNG in a sense of a 1v1 both players equal speed, equal distance to the ball, but the ball will most of the time eventually decide one way to be pinched to.
@vehicom2198
@vehicom2198 5 жыл бұрын
Royal Never Give Up = RNG, UUUUUUUZZZZZZI
@WatchingYou2ube
@WatchingYou2ube 5 жыл бұрын
asdf asdf Uzi is cool. But he didn’t win.. a team no one expected to win won hah, and finals were a let down ! :/
@crazypeepsbrosk1
@crazypeepsbrosk1 5 жыл бұрын
You don't know rng until you play runescape
@_SnowKnight_
@_SnowKnight_ 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Binding of Isaac. The amount of rng is sometimes crazy and to really "get gud" at it you have to be able to adapt to anything the game gives you, or to be able to fight without the items. There are runs where you will be insanely overpowered and clear rooms in a second or you are getting fucked over by rng and get beans
@benign_oracle8875
@benign_oracle8875 5 жыл бұрын
I can see why smash is in the middle of the rng scale for esports due to two of my mains being peach & Luigi having rng in their kits along with game & watch. There is also rng in some of the stage designs.
@chaosof99
@chaosof99 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Hearthstone is heavily RNG driven simply by emulating card games, which are inherently RNG heavy due to shuffling a deck of cards. There are ways to influence frequency of drawing specific cards throughout a game, but every card games requires the randomization of the deck as a core mechanic. That also serves as a balancing mechanism as you wouldn't want (or need) to draw certain powerful but expensive cards too often.
@MrBandola
@MrBandola 5 жыл бұрын
ROYAL ALWAYS GIVE UP! LOL
@carlpacarat4085
@carlpacarat4085 4 жыл бұрын
The first thinf that went into my mind is Royal Never Give Up
@Lucitaur
@Lucitaur 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to LoL's drakes, it would be good if the game told us what drakes will appear during the champion selections screen, allowing players to actually make some neat and strategic picks instead of hoping that drakes will compliment their picks nicely. That change would not only remove the frustration of the RNG, but would actually add depth to the game!
@xBox360BENUTZER
@xBox360BENUTZER 5 жыл бұрын
6:20 twisted fate has it only in his design but not in his gameplay and crit isn´t all that problematic anymore either with the removal of crit runes.
@cbuckington2933
@cbuckington2933 5 жыл бұрын
Epholos his passive is random ma dude ^^
@xBox360BENUTZER
@xBox360BENUTZER 5 жыл бұрын
oh right forgot about that part. but to be fair it is rng that doesnt effect gameplay unless you have that 0.0000001% luck
@gustavogoncalves3111
@gustavogoncalves3111 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know exactly how TF works, but I think his W is also random, in a way that you will never know what card will be the first in the rotation before you press the button.
@xBox360BENUTZER
@xBox360BENUTZER 5 жыл бұрын
his w is fixed, the rotation continues when you press the button the next time (even the amount of time on that part of the rotation continues)
@fanficologist6621
@fanficologist6621 5 жыл бұрын
@@xBox360BENUTZER to be more specific, his card rotation start as soon as W comes off CD, so if you select gold card quickly enough, double tap W right when it's ready you will probably get the same card you pulled last time. Double gold card trick ;)
@Kpnoodles
@Kpnoodles 5 жыл бұрын
Mario party
@wanderingrandomer
@wanderingrandomer 5 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of was Pokémon, where RNG plays a big part in play, with move accuracy, secondary effect chance, min max damage and things like crits and flinching. Obviously it sucks to be on the receiving end, but I think it adds to the game insofar as you have to respect someone being ballsy enough to risk bad RNG chasing a best-case scenario and pulling it off.
@sabb1269
@sabb1269 5 жыл бұрын
3:21 Demo locations is also rng. Edit: Demo is demolition, when someone drives at supersonic speed into your car and you blow up.
@alidhan1299
@alidhan1299 5 жыл бұрын
That's why he said "outside of spawn" locations. Kickoff spawns are not RNG because they are identical on both sides so its fair. But the respawn after demo is RNG.
@scorpio4320
@scorpio4320 4 жыл бұрын
Love how they put Overwatch as no RNG 😂😂😂 guess they never played matchmaking on it 😂😂
@clivethefuhrer822
@clivethefuhrer822 5 жыл бұрын
RNG = Run aNd Gun
@neonicplays1364
@neonicplays1364 5 жыл бұрын
Run n gun
@CalpolMeister
@CalpolMeister 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the Overpass train
@CountShasha
@CountShasha 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Shudderwock could effectively put your game into a loop of "You will experience a slow and definite loss" depending on what cards you played beforehand
@yikes7918
@yikes7918 5 жыл бұрын
3:02 "there are games that make no use of it at all" _Shows up overwatch logo_ *me : lol*
@ethandonnelly1973
@ethandonnelly1973 4 жыл бұрын
@DC 10o01 laughs in junkrat
@kadenb765
@kadenb765 5 жыл бұрын
Thats why rocket league is the best. LETS GO C9
@litto3533
@litto3533 4 жыл бұрын
From what I heard the act of “ randomly generating numbers on a computer “ is called sudo randomness
@TriggerzConnors
@TriggerzConnors 3 жыл бұрын
In TF2, they have highest RNG. Like checking spy corners, sniper cross map(not being sniper, other class), and in-combat which you're getting flanked, or you got a kill from your crit ubersaw. (60-75% chance)
@rossanderson4156
@rossanderson4156 5 жыл бұрын
If you hate RNG, play some pokemon Showdown and learn that managing RNG is a skill
@neilcalvin9933
@neilcalvin9933 5 жыл бұрын
yeah, alot of it is assessing your chances of doing something when using a move
@FirstNameLastName-fu9ed
@FirstNameLastName-fu9ed 5 жыл бұрын
The story of xQc
@Gwgitu77
@Gwgitu77 5 жыл бұрын
I like the bloopers
@dajoey2198
@dajoey2198 5 жыл бұрын
all hail RNGesus and hopes He'll bless our next gacha/case opening pull
@ryuizanagi8855
@ryuizanagi8855 5 жыл бұрын
Z OMEGALUL E
@Matthew-oq9rw
@Matthew-oq9rw 5 жыл бұрын
i was the 1k like so satisfying
@l.jbornman7463
@l.jbornman7463 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a video on Smite it's not as big as league or Dota but still a good MOBA and worth a look and I think would make a great video. Love the vids
@Real_itachi_xd
@Real_itachi_xd 5 жыл бұрын
Adding ReviewBrah moment made this video even better
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