What Is Si Demon Even Good For? | CS Joseph Responds

[@borisvandruff7532]

Best thing any INFJ can do: figure out your boundaries. Because then you will know what is a waste of time and what isn’t.

[@abdiqanihashi484]

How exactly does one do that?

[@VYMQGSOH]

They are one of the best things to do as an INFJ, yes; Yet it's also important to know how you'll handle and react to the moments that you find to yourself in a situation that you have those boundaries in that have been crossed.

[@VYMQGSOH]

​@@abdiqanihashi484I found this out through Fi mainly. I had to go basically into my shadow functions, he to know myself, what I value enough to know what I will care about enough to know when I will not tolerate something much longer or at all. If I don't know myself and what I value enough, I can find myself sacrificing far too much and wasting my time and resources on people who are just taking advantage of them whether or not I care about them or I'm just simply being nice. Some will greatly try to take advantage of me because I am often generous and highly sacrificial, but through Fi in my shadow functions, I recognized when I will just be wasting what I have and could've used it for someone else who wouldn't let it waste away or just take advantage of me, and rather know how much I'm willing to sacrifice for certain people for the right reasons that will make good use of it rather than just sacrificing and they consume it for their own benefit to feel better and not make any use of it, just ending up asking or wanting more from me.

[@heatherb6141]

Assertiveness boot camp required or a personal assistant//door keeper lol

[@miaomiao8576]

💯

[@Brickwilliams]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention how the past is so depressing for injs, that’s probably the worst thing about si demon for me. I lived an unbelievably great childhood yet it’s so depressing to recall any childhood memory so I typically don’t do it. Not to mention how spotty it is and how little i actually remember. But what I do remember is depressing af no matter how happy the memory. At least I have an infp and isfj brother

[@ayoubwihi711]

OH MY FREAKING GOD ! What i always mention topeople and i also wanted to mention iit to chase , you spoje my mind ! Thank you for this great comment i'm happy that chase saw it and react to it ❤

[@k.c.sunshine1934]

Very true. For example, I (INFJ) often wake up with a random flash back to a previous event in my life where I lost out. I attribute that to my "si demon." The trick is to find the good within this Si function rather than simply putting up with the negative that it forces upon us. I believe that the Si demon is meant to protect us and lead us away from future harm (Ni hero shining through here).

[@honor9lite1337]

Hear hear

[@Thilosophocl3s]

Eventually, when an INFJ matures, it will let go of past loves and failures. As far as body count, it doesn't matter. What matters is that INFJ with baggage makes an infj type of commitment to heal their wounds, be self aware, and hold space for their wounds and how they can affect relationships if not healed. Typology isn't enough to fix wounds. Typology is knowing and knowing doesn't heal, feeling feeling heals, so infjs must learn to integrate their shadow functions.

[@Scarecrow1410]

Great lecture. I love it when ENxPs understand that my effort is special and reserved only for them because I ALWAYS thank them for their performance.

[@honor9lite1337]

ENxPs perform?

[@Scarecrow1410]

Yes

[@lxdm26]

@@honor9lite1337 maybe not to your standards, but some people do appreciate genuine effort.

[@cstharlo]

You're cringe

[@honor9lite1337]

EN​xPs Endure. @@Scarecrow1410

[@intj1782]

I think this lecture was the best thing you could ever make for INXJs (especially me). Chase! Thank you very much! I appreciate your efforts. Why the f are your videos so intriguing?

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

i notice infjs have better body awareness (less clumsy) compared to intjs.

[@chriskozak7356]

There are some INFJs that are terrific athletes with developed ESTP subconscious

[@vikascc4824]

I think bodily awareness comes after learning the Si Demon lesson that you ain't gonna be a top performer if you dont provide yourself with enough comfort to perform that task. Assuming that there's no typing error, it's likely that whatever environment/life circumstances those INFJs were in likely pushes them to develop the Subconscious. I'm UD|SF INFJ myself and during my UC focused days I was clumsy as fuck. As to how to actually develop that awareness, for me it's been through failure and figuring out why and how SPs succeeded in said task where I failed. Ex: 1. Can't drive a car well if you don't take good ergonomics and living in the moment into account 2. Can't paint well if posture isn't good 3. Can't play a sport well when you're not in the right clothes/equipment 4. Can't gym well and stress the right muscles if you don't get the posture right 5. Can't jog/cycle far if you're wasting energy doing it wrong My advice to fellow Ni heroes, just find some SPs, preferably the same type as your Subconscious and be friends with them, have shared experience with them. Get outta your head and into the moment and watch what the SPs do and ask them why. Oh and if any of you guys are INFJs that are Unconscious Focused, check out Awaken Insight YT channel (UD|SF INFJ) Subconscious Focused, check out Captain Sinbad YT channel (??|SF INFJ) Fi critic approves of his name- Captain, sin bad

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

@@vikascc4824 i think infjs are less clumsy and more athletic cause of Ti child. intjs are more animalistic tho. however, intjs probably better at driving a car due to Te parent

[@SantanaBanana47]

​@@qasimimtiaz9668 I don't see how that makes sense at all

[@juliansanderson839]

​@@SantanaBanana47 TI-SE users observes the tangible experience (SE) and seeks to (TI) understand how it works for themselves. TE-SE users observes the tangible experience, and seeks to understand how it works -- but that understanding is impersonal. TI "How can I use this practical skill for myself?" versus TE "How can this practical skill be used?". both might have little experience kicking a soccer ball: tert.TE might understand the body mechanic and general idea yet haven't applied it for themselves in practice -- tert.TI knows what specific motions are useful for their own means, and disregards what isn't personally applicable.

[@VE_LORD]

As an INTJ I can relate to the burden part So that extreme lack of bodily awareness Si demon, shows its self through Ni Hero In practice, in my experience it seems like Ni decides to accomplish (X) does whatever necessary Overexerts physical body without realizing it I initially thought that it was FORCE OF WILL moving me forward but it's also the fact that I don't really care about my physical body, it becomes just a vessel to accomplish (X) and accomplishing (X) is more important than self preservation But one could also look at EFFORT as LIFE FORCE. The Si could present not as lack of self preservation but as USE OF LIFE FORCE. So Si Demon normally presents as lack of bodily awareness and/or lack of self preservation But Si Demon presents through Ni Hero as Use of Life Force. Do I have this right? But Si Demon whether in a positive or negative light eats away at the life span But the Burn rate would correlate to difficulty of (X) what Ni Hero decides. I apologize for extra long comment

[@reposeful_5766]

A great point of view of the relationship between Ni hero and Si demon! Definitely insightful, and no need for apologising the spaces made it more organised.

[@JungINFJ]

Amen to that Mr. Chess piece. Perfectly explained.

[@sol-oh1gc]

Thank you for this content! It helps explain some things as an INFJ, the doorslam, the attachment and the need I've always been thinking as odd and just too much.

[@JungINFJ]

Good lecture. I do this now for sure. Also, quick take on body awareness. There is a difference between body awareness (Si) and spatial awareness (Se). An example of each for me is, lack of Si would be, someone asks me if Im hungry and want to eat. I say no only to realize that i am hungry and just realized I havent eaten all day. Sleep also is an issue and getting bit by a bug, swelling up and wondering when I got bit lol Spatial awareness though is easy as SD/SF if Im saying that correctly. But that basically looks like being an athlete. I can basically just pick up sports quickly and/or mirror movements easily. It feels smooth.

[@RachelL421]

This honestly made me cry. It’s 100% true. As an INFJ, I’ve definitely been tortured by ENFP who have not valued my time, attention and respect. It hurt like nothing else, resulted in door slam . The video helped me understand why this feels so bad and I appreciate the advice about giving things more consideration before I get attached. Thank you very much, it’s something I needed to hear.

[@aladdout9454]

You don't just GIVE an enfp respect girl. Hold onto it for the longest time ever until you see consistency. Even then I'd tiptoe around respecting Nfps. You'll heal dw...out of sight out of mind right.

[@RachelL421]

Thank you 😊

[@deepforestgreen8308]

I literally feel Si demon killing us slowly because of the detachment from the body. And also being fine with it as you said. Thank you for this lecture again.

[@laila44477]

this was a ride, I felt all the hurt and I feel enlightened

[@jeralynrose2917]

This Si has been the problem in my relationship. I’m ENFP and my partner is an infj. We both have gone through some childhood trauma so there is some imbalance. Her Si Demon gave me all the attention is the start. I have adhd and being forgetful or distracted and not giving her attention back hurt her. She door slammed me, but now, me trying to fix it all and make it better has been tough bc the door slam isn’t letting my EFFORT be seen and I work hard to do what needs to be done to be fixed. And of course I feel invisible and not helped and doing this alone instead of together. Meaning fixing this issue.

[@archaised1191]

were those ladies walking in circles or did the matrix just glitch

[@NoNamedNobody692]

Thank you again for this video Chase. As an INFJ male who’s almost 30 and has suffered from existential depression for well over 10+ years, this helped put a lot of my darkest parts of myself into context. Especially the loneliness, the self-directed-nihilism, feeling like a constant failure no matter my achievements, my bad attachment investments, hatred for the past, anxiousness for the future (Ne) because I haven’t met major milestones yet that so many of my friends from high school already have and feeling like if I don’t act now to seriously change, my intense deeply-held desire to “change the world the better” many never end up coming to fruition, and I don’t think I could live with myself anymore if I at least didn’t make the EFFORT…to try and put in that EFFORT to do so, instead of the typical INJ “just gonna will myself through another life obstacle” with as minimal amount of effort possible. Just fantastic INJ content. Thank you again. Don’t know if you ever considered reaching out to Joyce Meng from TypeTalks (also INFJ) but she has a sizable typology audience/community/following and has spoken with some big community members too. Logically, having her invest into this typology system could be Proto-Revolutionary for the MBTI community as a whole in the long run of things. Can’t wait to see what your 100k episode will be about. Been with you since the beginning, just going to do my best to keep moving forward now. Thanks again for all you do Chase.

[@CSJoseph]

Joyce reached out to me, but she got scared her reputation would take a hit so she decided to not have me on her show.

[@NoNamedNobody692]

@@CSJoseph If you could at any point be able to have a productive conversation with her, please let me know. She’s a certified MBTI Practitioner, so whatever knowledge and information you have you could provide to her and whatever information / feedback she may have to give back to you may or may not have very important complications for our community moving forward. Especially since she got to do an in-depth interview with Dario Nardi on her channel. Which I know you’ve been interested in his work as well. Please reach out if you need too. Thanks again.

[@priyankamahamunkar5729]

I was praying for this video. Thankyou😭❤️✨

[@k.c.sunshine1934]

26:38 As an INFJ, I can confirm the importance of the "Si Demon Test." There are several times where I have been attached to emotional vampires (takers) that I end up feeling used, abused, and discarded. Note that some relationships change over time, therefore, please also realize that some relationships are around for a time rather for a lifetime. I would also recommend explicit communication with the "other" in your life because INFJ's are well known for not communicating their needs (at least when they are not well developed).

[@carlurbananimals]

INTJ UD UF is like "you want to affiliate well then affiliate with THIS!?!?!?!?"

[@TheGuyWhoCantPickAName]

Gotta say I hate being connected way to easily then needing a crowbar and an army to pry me off

[@NathanaelNaused]

It's definitely not fun. But it gets better over time as you develop and learn to control your investment

[@TheGuyWhoCantPickAName]

@@NathanaelNaused man I love hearing good news thanks

[@tehflooper]

so Si is the greatest gift INTJs have? so valuable that it's okay not to show it to everyone

[@Brickwilliams]

As an infj soccer player I’ve always been faster than everyone and it’s always felt easy. It almost feels like there’s no limit to how fast I can run, it’s just a gear that no one else has, so this makes sense. Also funny that I pull hammys and groins more often than most people. I see it in Michael jordan, his jumping ability seemed physically impossible and inhuman

[@mrod8578]

Well sure but there is also genetics aside from personality. Infjs aren't always great athletes or can run fast. I mean if you have genetics for speed like one or both of your parents were fast, chances are more likely you'll be fast yourself. For example my dad is a 6ft8 ENTJ big and strong former football player up through university as well as being a 3 sport athlete. Due to him being tall and strong I also became tall and strong (with some training obviously). My personality had not all that much to do with my height or strength as an INTP myself. In fact while I think many INTPs might get into martial arts or something later in life many are known to be nerds who are not initially interested in athletics unless pushed. So as you can see other factors are involved where personality might not be correlational at all and you just won the genetic lottery (such as being a good sprinter).

[@Brickwilliams]

@@mrod8578 no doubt, I’m just saying that I can notice how my si demon plays a unique roll compared to most other athletes and it helps explain why I’ve been so athletically different from others. Not comparing myself to mj but I’m sure if he watched this video he’d have the same cool realization

[@ToluSir]

I always pulled my hammy and groin when playing football too

[@jenniferc1671]

Excellent topic. Even though my significant other is an ENFJ, he respects my si demon, if I’m truly an INFJ which I feel that I am but I come out often as an INFP.

[@djcarat6458]

Not a dig, but every once in a while, I come here and am forced to remember why engaging too much with the opposite gender is a terrible idea, so I appreciate that.

[@nethercords]

so fucking on point with the internal/external nihilism, at least infjs know the value of having an infp on their side, intjs have a relatively dark blind spot

[@corrinblock]

Great content as always. It's funny I just took the love language quiz yesterday and got acts of service. Also, I'm glad I learned a long time ago that discipline=freedom. Keep up the great work!

[@KingoServicesHeatingandCooling]

Wow impressed again. You are very valuable to us. Glad your here for us INJ

[@jordan9941]

Are Si tricksters also prone to cutting themselves? I have a friend whom I believe is an ENFJ and he used to struggle with that. He told me his story and how he got over it. Pretty sad but also great that he overcame it.

[@InHellITrust]

Usually when people cut themselves it's for attention.

[@nikitimmermans]

Could you give specific tips on how to self care for Si demon types? How to improve life quality, just how to take care of your body and it's limits..That would be awesome.

[@CSJoseph]

Self discipline, and mirror what others do for it

[@jasminesnider1303]

Do you think it would be a bad combination for a intj and infj together since the both have si demon and Se inferior?

[@qavah4031]

Thank you for the effort you put in these videos, really appreciate it.

[@rachman.syahril]

Books: Obstacle is the Way. Attached. Codependent no more.

[@aparnadas359]

So Does si demon can get more attached than anyone More than si hero or child? While si hero and child can get attached to all people and all the past but injs get attached to few things with more intensity?

[@marlene8753]

I believe I’ve observed a pattern that people with obsessive compulsive disorder are often INXJs (from watching some reports and interviews). The defining symptoms of OCD, such as repeatedly performing certain rituals, hand washing, cleaning, fear of germs, having to check things repeatedly, seem to be clearly attached to Si. The sort of behavior is very detail focused and these people say they feel obligated to it. And since it is rather inadequate and destructive to their lives, it would make sense to me if it were attached to the demon function, and that other types wouldn’t really have the capacity to develop this disorder. Also, some of these people report having thoughts about something bad happening in the future or to people close to them if they don’t perform a specific routine, which sounds a lot like Ne nemesis to me. However, I believe that the diagnosis of OCD is given to other types as well, like ENXPs who also care about routines but in a different way, so it might look similar on the outside. Also, I’ve seen an ISTJ woman with an OCD diagnosis, which was more about intrusive thoughts about bad things that might happen and not really repeated compulsive behaviors. Anyways, I could be very off here. My ability to type people on videos is very poor and I probably have selectively taken in information, so see this more as a speculative hypothesis. Also, I don’t know if it is even possible for demon functions to manifest in this form, being activated continually. But do you generally think it is possible to assign some psychiatric disorders to certain personality types? I feel like this would be very interesting to explore deeper, as it could be a clear way to observe cognitive functions and also maybe help bridge the gap between this psychology and some more academically accepted concepts.

[@lxdm26]

that is a very good point. without a doubt there are a lot of people diagnosed mentally ill merely because of their psychology diverting from the norm. I can see that being the case with intuitives. the link between typology and pschological desease is definitely fascinating.

[@AriaKlauser]

I think this is why there are times when we end up being so lonely. When we realize we can't be paying that much attention to people that haven't given enough proof of being worth the effort or else we end up extremely hurt. Thanks man, I thought I was wrong for having that kind of thoughts haha.

[@archanasahitya5244]

What's a good way to test if someone if paying tribute to your time,attention and effort toward them? Is it just them carving out time for you?

[@justme8841]

Yup, I regocnized this years ago. Still need to destroy patterns what kinda people come into my life.

[@Kiyos473solitaryqueen]

This is absolutely true,we Ni heroes always seek for an effortless way in order to get what we want

[@Brickwilliams]

I’m good at leveraging my attention, I keep my head down most of the time so that when I do look at you, it’s valuable. Because isn’t value based on rarity?

[@Dizmal0ne]

BRO I PAUSED MY SI DEMON BUZZ FOR THIS NOTIFICATION. IT BETTER BE GOOD.

[@JaneB1]

Like the thumbnail re demon, our most valuable resource 🌱.... It's small and potent. Demon doubts (self doubts because of the box) look different from the demon box itself. One is the box and the other holds us in the box. That's what I'm experiencing with Fi demon/angel. My good feelings expand out of the box, but can be frozen with self doubt.

[@zenithgreyhatENTJ]

You’re the Ryuk of my life Chase lol

[@Chekuthan0101]

Great Video. Precious information.

[@vikascc4824]

Hi maga

[@sunsetjesus4719]

the question is does my attention have value if i suck or anyone who is not so valuable?

[@LilacSnowBun]

In an effort the fix my life, i wrote ‘follow Si angel’ on my to-do list to get my act together. I’m very happy to see this video today, it will be really useful in fixing this disaster I’ve created. Thank you - intj 4w5

[@schmitzkaylee]

At the same time though... I think we ought to question what made those people not give you the time and attention you gave. That answer usually (at least for me) comes down to a lack of self respect or self sacrificing nature. Ties into attachment theory. I came to the conclusion that it is never the right answer to door slam. It's cowardly. I take responsibility for the treatment i've accepted.

[@idiotslife8508]

Wow brave

[@SunscreenAndVitamins]

Madonna is not INTJ, that's ridiculous. She's ESFP.

[@romscar77]

***S M A S H the LIKE***

[@officialmintt]

Wow. Thank you, Joseph

[@sandrohaller2634]

Thank you Chase! I agree with the part where you said its more of an attachment thing then a loyality thing, i think its because not getting appreciation back very likely pushes us into the unconscious due to idolatry, (UD/SF Infj here) because we mistake our attachment with genuine attraction (which is where loyality would come in) could it be that the test of the demon is key to switch the cognitive focus? like from UF to SF..it seems like that its not only a very nice to have, it helps way more zo actually concentrate on the living virtue of humility if i know that the effort is appreciated (at least by myself) with regard to Si-not feeling the body kind of argument..i really resonate with it, i think though this is where Se aspiration kicks in, i see it in my sport-activities as to ENPs-women not giving tribute to mens Si-demon..i largely blame western culture for that.. but its a shame in general because i think a lot of it is miscommunication, ENPs dont know what they want (Ni nemesis), Si demon takes it personally. However, i found that ENTPs are way more grateful and empathetic and i think its because of Fe child knowing how Fi critic feels, plus they are pragmatic and dont care so much about self image and te-status, i think ENFPs really feel physical pain when recognizing Si demons effort properly, like as if they would sacrifice a piece of their self worth, at least it seems such a big deal for them to do so, but i dont know the reasons..but unfortunately doorslam seems the only option

[@lxdm26]

UD INTJ here - the mistaken attachment for attraction part definitely rings true. also the miscommunication is a good point! highest compatability means lots of physical communication without as much emphasis on the verbal in my experience.. the test of the Demon for me has been the key to solve attachment and be open to look around and desire others - a SF approach so you might be onto something! ENP women can be brutal to Si demon, only valuing attention and effort when they feel comfortable. an ENTP woman in my past had a tendency to be quite arrogant, taking no responsibility for her actions. making up moral rationalizations on the fly as it suited her. echo-chamber friend circle, paranoid about finding "her way" and being a strong independent woman without accountability, sharing her attention and body with others rather freely and being "proud" of it. abusing my Si demon and accelerating its self-destructive tendencies in the process. I believe Si demon wishes to be abused and punished when neglected. and when coupled with a wrathful Se demon.. yikes and yuck. thank you for sharing!

[@sandrohaller2634]

@@lxdm26 Thanks for sharing too! I think golden pairs come with a lot of suffering, and having Si demon makes it even more so. ESFP superego of an ENTP while one is attached to her, I can even feel it while typing it Si-demon test is definetly a valuable resource to take the power back. I speculate that in your case it was particularly diffucult, because of her cognitive focus of reverence. you know with ENPs I never know how much awareness their demon, or the demon in general has. Because its so low down there in the function stack, I think they don't have control over it. With ENTPs Fi in the Trickster-Position and Ti-in the parent, they might know it with Ti, but don't care with Fi, because of no moral standard. I don't know if that makes it worse or better, but definitely I think this Fi-I don't care traps them longer in the super-ego as necessary, especially if society provides them with reverence, as you said above. From Si-demons point view, it doesn't make any difference. Its a shame for INJs in general. The thing about the test of demon is that one has to say no to a lot of joy that golden pair relationships can offer. but better a less joyful life, than having si-demon against oneself, it is a black hole

[@sandrohaller2634]

@@lxdm26 i have another idea regarding Si-demon, Si- for us INJ is effort, we really struggle putting effort into something, because we love following our Ni-interest; if we put effort into somebody else, especially a love interest, it hurts of course if it is not reciprocated. But reciprocation is not necessary for us to actually the effort being worth it, the other person may not be worth it, but the effort in itself is maybe not. I think what we struggle with a lot is the realization that we can actually put so much effort into something like a relationship, and drain ourselves so much, so much so that one is completely vulnerable. Which can be misused by selfish ENPs of course. so the test of the Si-demon is actually for Ni, not for the other person necessarily. If Ni can overcome its impulse to take shortcuts, to become prideful, to not want too much of oneself, then the effort is worth it, and Si-demon does not wanna fight with the Ni. The question now is I think, is joy a short-cut of some sort..it is at least a question that can be answered only by oneself, joy can definitely be a distraction

[@lxdm26]

@@sandrohaller2634 Hello again Sandro, You're spot on. She wanted reverence and respect for her independence and all I sensed was disgust. (not to mention Se inferior getting nuked but that's easier on me) I blame western society, feminism and my own weakness, not her poor, entitled, traumatized soul. I can't bring myself to feel any animosity towards her. I can see a lot of pain in her future which is what actually hurts the most but I digress. Having bashed and criticized her on here it's only fair to give full perspective. The way forward has been taking responsibility for my behaviour for it was I that enabled her demon instead of confronting it: not correcting her blatant lies and transgressions, not upholding boundaries. In my experience, Si in its demonic prowess is full of covert contracts, enduring abuse, trading dignity for the sake of comfort, pleasure and control. I could've walked out on multiple occasions for good reason and made her beg for my attention until I felt desired, appreciated and respected enough. No, I CHOSE to stay to indulge in the sensations, making the faustian deal with the devil as chase says about the super-ego. nothing but weakness, manipulation and sheer cowardice on my end. In a way I deserved to suffer, for disrespecting and neglecting my needs and dignity. I take full responsibility for my pain. very valuable lesson learned - thank you Se & Si demons, I got the memo. I won't allow this to ever happen again. True humility is the way (eternal thanks to Chase for making this so clear to me) Remembering a very rewarding long-term relationship I've had with a gorgeous inside-out, humble ISFJ gives me hope for the future. I'll gladly keep that wonderful attachment forever for contrast's sake. I guess I've really been on both opposites of the luck spectrum when it comes to romantic relationships, I really shouldn't complain! thank you for taking the time and for the empathy, Sandro! This has been really helpful. - Alex This video in particular is a godsend and I'll definitely check out the other CSJ Si demon work Chase mentioned in the vid

[@lxdm26]

@@sandrohaller2634 Your first point reminds me of something Chase mentioned in a past video about Si demon. He was talking about how INJs can be so paranoid about outcomes [Ne nemesis] they get stuck never taking any risk. Like a immature ISJ we would be afraid of outcomes which would be the reason to indulge in comfort and security. The opposite of what Ni hero is supposed to be, the most risk-taking out of all types that is. Reciprocation as a requirement for effort is nothing but an attempt to control the outcome - a Si covert contract. You saying the reciprocation shouldn't be required to make effort worth it makes total sense and ties in perfectly. maybe I'm misinterpreting your point but I find it interesting to think about. About the struggle to realize the draining of oneself, putting effort into something/someone to the point of being vulnerable.. You're spot on, I had't thought about it in that way yet! Si demon Test for Ni, not necessarily the other person... hm I've marinated a bit over this. so you're saying if Ni hero's humble, overcomes impulses, chooses the right path with no shortcuts, then Si would have no problems with giving the effort and sacrifice regardless of the outcome (reciprocation). Am I understanding what you mean? that's a beautiful way to look at it and makes total sense. Only now I've realized this was all one coherent idea and not several different points lol I feel stupid. That is a very good question. Maybe the Superego sees joy as a shortcut when not involved properly?

[@mokari9268]

This explained a lot. Thank you.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

biggest issue i have is increasing dopamine lol

[@borisvandruff7532]

Are other INxJs as annoyed as I am at people who don’t value other people’s time and actively waste it?

[@jonathanflores5696]

What exactly do you mean by paying tribute?

[@rjh7700]

Effort is a hard thing to pin down, would you do anything if the thought of it caused unpleasant feelings, and on top of that, you have random memories that pop up whose purpose is to remind you that you failed at doing this or something similar to this, and the feeling you had during that time is also amplified in anxiety and moral failure on your part? I'm just trying to say that failures are a big deal in this situation, and the more you acknowledge you have had, the faster you spiral downward. It's really hard to get out of that

[@foxyroxy8131]

Please some sensor video ☹️ its has been 200 years since you made one (except from ESTPs)

[@CSJoseph]

Buy one by being an acolyte member csjoseph.life/members upgrade from journeyman

[@haseebjaved2516]

i love csj for this video 😊

[@marty2090]

Isnt wanting someone to be a fan of you egotism as opposed to malevolence?

[@InHellITrust]

It can be a trait of egotism. It is closer than malevolence from what I can see. malevolence Noun wishing evil to others

[@urquanoverlord2538]

Fanatacism is it's own thing. An entp/isfj develops either fanaticism or malevolence. Chase developed much more malevolence, so he's missing a piece of himself in fanaticism.

[@SantanaBanana47]

Well being UDUF makes your primary origin reverence actually. So that's why when you are UDUF entp you are malevolent, which is quite similar to the egoist way of attaining reverence.

[@ER-oc7xx]

Just had to doorslam an enfp golden pair girl woman. The only thing I put my faith in is God and my bros!!! (For now)

[@jordan9941]

That’s rough. But pretty wise. As an INTP I won’t even think about getting into a relationship with a woman unless I know her and feel comfortable around her and think we’re compatible.

[@SantanaBanana47]

Why did you have to?

[@Briller]

dude i lost my enfp too. she wrote off the whole forest(me) for a few bad trees (my mistakes)

[@Briller]

i’m also turning to God

[@paulthobe3489]

When you doorslam people then, you miss out on lessons they have to give. Your way is not the only way. I have all your cognitive functions too but, in different order coming from an ENFJ.

[@brotherlyelk7296]

Brilliant 🔥🔥❤

[@pablosanchez1048]

Probably many people start the video and think WTF is this guy with a woodie and a cigar😅 .. but luckily I don't care is filled with insights and it is very accurate, I'm an INTJ

[@Jupiter6610]

Would you consider self-sacrifice to the point of martyrdom a shortcut to get what you want?

[@CSJoseph]

I used to believe “sacrifice is power” which is symbolized by the “black lotus”

[@jacquia.7340]

CS Joseph or can anyone direct me to the journey man video that was mentioned 1:11? For intj& infj hypocrisy video and the demon function episode that goes into Si...

[@CSJoseph]

csjoseph.life/members

[@isabelledinneweth]

🙏o thank you for this

[@thefemininelady2974]

Eventually, the masculine must show nobility thru humility by subordinating its time and attention to the feminine. It sounds like similar to how si effort in nj is valuable bc it’s inferior, for an entp to subordinate their own inferior Si to honor the inner sensations of the feminine is the highest possible sacrifice. I don’t know, but Joseph’s divorce to railgun May have been, at least in part, to Joseph’s inability to put the feminine on a pedestal, like God (masc) did for creation (feminine, receptive, temperamental Si)by dying on cross. That is the proper polarity between masc and femme, bc when Si is satisfied, the feminine emerges as a loyal servant to the masculine, respecting his direction and leadership, and the dialectic progresses. My dear pedagogue Joseph is this at a cross roads in his masculine journey, and I pray he finds his ideal woman to make that ultimate voluntary sacrifice for of subordinating the feminine aspect of his temperament to her, with the Ni vision of ultimately serving the masculine

[@thefemininelady2974]

That is how he will attain the deep worship of the feminine and respect from the ideal feminine that he confesses he craves in this video (and that is actually a masculine desire- think God wants worship. So, honor the feminine in all humility and she will repay you tenfold and beyond, as a capable wife properly nourished by the masculine FIRST.

[@thefemininelady2974]

The masculine is the spirit which initiates the creative process. “Humility comes before honor” (proverbs). Thus, masculine must go first in proposing to honor the feminine (why men get on bended knee) to receive the honor or what CSJ calls “fangirling” the masculine craves at a guttural level

[@aldin7158]

Thank you Chase for your effort, this video was immensely valuable. You go so deep into the psyche and uncovering what is ACTUALLY going on under the hood. No other youtubers or productivity gurus could ever reach that level.

[@romain6063]

That explains a lot

[@burakarslan5838]

I'm glad you didn't call this video inj lol.

[@RaffertyMBTI]

Always thought of ENFP's as easy... are you sure they're picky? They're some of the easiest women out there.

[@dougg1976]

Nice fat cigar:)

[@jaredvaughan1665]

SiTe in Socionics = SeTi in mbti. And SiFe in Socionics = FiSe in mbti. Which is why Chase's ISFJ mother is his Socionics Conflict Type.

[@BookofYAH777]

I wish you didn't do the cigar stuff 😝

[@CSJoseph]

Why? There are far worse things, like diabetes. You don’t see people being shamed for eating sugar.

[@BookofYAH777]

@@CSJoseph yes, there's also things that are worse than diabetes, such as raping and killing people. But it would be awesome if you moved in the direction of improvement (even if you're already doing many things right). Absence of cigar is better than presence of cigar.

[@BookofYAH777]

make no mistake: I like you Chase. I want you to constantly improve because I think this will benefit you in the long run. Pointing out your flaws is important for you to be aware of what to improve. It may be unpleasant in the short term but I think it's worth it in the long run

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I've concluded Socionics's definition of Si as intaking sensation from the outer encironment is CORRECT. Whereas mbti made this process into Se and got it wrong. In Socionics Si sucks in sensation from the outer sensory world and then pumps out Ne options, patterns, etc. Whereas Mbti thinks Ne is on an axis with an Si that favors mauling over the past. Yet as an INTP in mbti and LII in Socionics I have found my Ne grows the fastest by using Si as defined by Socionics to suck in sensation from the outer sensory environment. And have had fun joining my mbti ESFP and Socionics ESE "Bonvivant" Dual on the quest of sucking in lots of sensory experiences (Si.) I hold that all mbti perceiving types actially favor the Socionics definition of Si (S) as intaking (sucking inwards) sensation. I also hold all mbti J types favor Se (F) as defined by Socionics as trying to put Ti/Fi order on the outer physical environment.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

should a intj be a fan guy to their partner?

[@hnr9lt-pz7bn]

Fan guy? 😮

[@SantanaBanana47]

That entirely depends on nurture and type...also you should just do what you want. If you care so much about what you should do, then I doubt you are an intj. Maybe you are an istj

[@zenithgreyhatENTJ]

Can ENTJs be picky?

[@abdiqanihashi484]

I hope not😊

[@t-man5196]

Andrew Tate, yikes

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

why intjs point it externally?

[@SantanaBanana47]

Probably something to do with fe in the super ego. That's my guess.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

@@SantanaBanana47 make sense.

[@dovio832]

So logically a fanaticism entp would desire more malevolence from their partners? I wonder how does in play out !?

[@FFakiha]

Dommy mommy

[@elizabethong5019]

It's true, I'm an infj who is fine with having a short life span 🫠

[@kiisaid4756]

Another example, Si Good is for? It’s great for storing nasty behavior suffered from others that hurts the INTJ. The next time an INTJ come across it again, the INTJ should learns to painfully discipline/challenge the behavior until the behavior stops, or fight back unto scaring the opponent also, OR, the INTJ can shut off everything about you/status and affection (until passerby status or ghost) even to fatality. Si holds the the conditions of the situation, and if/when used properly, returns the favor no matter the length of the relationship. It is the “experience of association” as the trigger that gives license to “do as you please where you may find pleasure”. It the way of the world. INTJ’s Can’t be to Careful, they are mean at the least, to the point of thoughtlessness & care. Si is also used for good,but that’s called, triggered to show appreciation or building to value over wickedness. How many people deserves that?🥸