What is struggle love..?

[@peachesandpoets]

Paris is being ridiculous. I'm surprised nobody mentioned it but one of the Kings children even spoke out and told Jonathan Majors to leave his mother to rest in peace. Coretta and Michelle aren't just objects who stood by their man. Coretta was a whole person before, during and after being with Dr king. Reducing women to these mules that stand back while males do the work is demeaning AND inaccurate.

[@_ParadiseParis]

I disagree

[@ddoubleu170]

It was Bernice King; their baby girl.

[@shirbear9367]

@@_ParadiseParis I don’t understand where you disagreed. Coretta raised her child. If her own child who watched her endure felt the comment was disrespectful, then that’s definitely something I personally would’ve reevaluated if I was in defense of Johnathan. Coretta isn’t a woman who stood by her man. She’s a woman who stood for what’s right. Minimizing her to Martin’s legacy disputes what she did before, during and after he died. So it’s not just him using a white woman. It’s him also having the wrong idea on who Coretta was

[@cashyyvibez]

I feel like men now want us to buy the food and cook it too. And that’s why we can’t be soft we gotta do both parts and soft when it’s convenient but let me be soft all around

[@ashlynne8685]

Its deeper than what the lady on the left is making it out to be and I say this because he had no problem expecting that woman to be everything he needed to be and when she couldn’t live up to that who did he go and run to when he is at his lowest. The problem is black women are always expected to pick up the pieces for black men but we are never their first choice.

[@ashlynne8685]

Was* sorry for the typos I’m actually bothered that some people aren’t seeing the deeper issue

[@ashlynne8685]

7:47 EXACTLY

[@rekanova3757]

Yes, Megan is the clean up woman and if/when his image is clear he will go back to his white preference! Not sure if he's learned his lesson.

[@iamlorrainev8614]

It’s deeper than him expecting that from a. White women. It’s about the fact that this is his expectation of a women period.. to hold him down no matter how embarrassing and or detrimental it is to her. And basically pedalizing a women going through hell for love…that’s part of why everyone is offended. AND constantly using Coretta as someone who represents just that ALSO reduces her legacy to that !

[@iamlorrainev8614]

I just want the girl second from the left to ask herself why the daughter or coretta was offended herself

[@iamlorrainev8614]

Of*

[@alyaklove]

🎯🎯

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

It’s also trying to change a person HE chose instead of growing together. No matter race it’s a sand foundation for the house anyway.

[@kaki_karei]

💯

[@therelentlesslyempowered]

Black women’s ‘hard’ can be summed up in 4 words, quoting Darwin, ‘survival of the fittest’. Look it up. Our struggle in life requires mental toughness. If that makes ‘hard’, so be it. No other race of women can go through what we go through and live to tell the tale. If all of a sudden all women went through what we go through, we’d be the last ones standing. Believe that.

[@216Nevar]

BELIEVE THAT 💯

[@boparks3204]

Darwin NEVER said that... and actually his theory said the opposite. Herbert Spencer said it after reading "Origin of Species". What Darwin actual said was, "It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change.". This is important because it is survival of the most adaptable. Those who do not change are destined to die out.

[@shhhperry9852]

Damn right…

[@SuperAH1985]

I love these two Black men saying why they're not dating white women. I'm a white woman who's dated Black men who are all in their misogynoir and that's nonsense so I dropped them quickly. Hearing these two Black men talk respectfully about Black women, and adding their mom in the conversation, yes. I'm a fan. It's one thing if people date outside of their race because they happen to meet someone they like who happens to be of a different background makes sense, but hating on women of the various communities and racial backgrounds is not acceptable. What's wild is that the Passport Bros of all racial backgrounds are trying to find these "soft, meek" women in other countries. Meanwhile, I'm like, who says women abroad are putting up with these PP Bros shit? Have they not heard of Arab Spring, do they not know about Indigenous women the world over protesting against big corps, are they unaware of the uprising of women throughout Asia pushing against the patriarchy?!? Like, dudes from the U.S. and other predominantly western mentalities are effing stupid about who is and isn't hard, and policing women as such, and then deciding to find "soft" women in areas where those women have to be just as "hard" to survive. I hope Black women can just exist, as the women here pointed out. Just exist.

[@lovebug6388]

I lived abroad for some years. The American mentality isn't tolerated like they think. This is why you are seeing dudes getting jumped, ending up in jail and other harmful things. Plus the women are onto them. They want their visas and green cards. It's rare that you find a situation where true love happens out of such excursions. Oh well. Go to another country and act up and suffer the consequences.

[@essencepierce273]

I need more of Storm. She is spot on with women not having to change our hardness. They want us soft and broke because half of us are “hard” because we are independent. Wife women don’t have to smile everywhere they go and can be very catty and testy… I had a white co-worker who was very competitive with me for no reason. I am with you Kita. I always speak too but that’s it. I’m not sure why we are stereotyped of having an attitude. Black women deserve more grace but also we need to just exist. I had someone tell me on a call, my face looked upset. If we defend ourselves, and are hard. I will not accept this.

[@Gheransdad]

Black women don’t have to be softer, but they will have to own being alone. No human is independent, only black women misuse that word. Why do you deserve more grace if you’re not what society says you are? Why not either change or get therapy?

[@Pancake_cake_cake55]

Struggle love is something that I sadly don’t have time for.

[@_AmikaC_]

Sadly?

[@Fashionistasince73]

💯

[@leonacurry8799]

Not SADLY 😂😂😂. Struggle love is not a flex, or good in any way.

[@Pancake_cake_cake55]

@@leonacurry8799 I was being sarcastic!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 I would never! I could never! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@_AmikaC_]

@@leonacurry8799 At all, whatsoever!! HARD pass and that's my final answer! The End. 🤦🏿‍♀️😅🤦🏿‍♀️😅🤣🤣🤣

[@msceandra]

The girl on the left. Has she been picked yet? Cause girl 🙄

[@tobym5067]

😂

[@k0k01]

She was contradicting herself the whole time just a bad case of the pick me pox.

[@nikkie_a]

GIRL!!!! I am really trying to figure out what rock she has been living under and how much is rent there because girl what? She is completely coddling black men....

[@asiamayne]

Jonathan majors : that whole Coretta statement to a yt woman was emotional abuse... letting her know she could never and letting her know the black woman she found texting him could be... he Boldy devalued her.. why is everyone looking over that.. eventually he will do the same to cousin skeeter cuzin

[@I.am.arig_]

This is a very good point. A very very good point

[@commentsforthealgorithm]

Such a great point amen. First off he should not be comparing her to other women and trying to mold her into someone else

[@kaki_karei]

💯

[@keishaterrell1935]

Wait so we have to worry about ourselves as black women getting mistreated by black men already AND we should worry about other races of women getting mistreated by these same black men who step on us to get to them to begin with? 😂😂😂 ok 👍🏽

[@brookealicia92]

Not cousin skeeter cousin 😂😂😂

[@ItsTinaB]

That wig plaaaaaaayed 🤣😂😂😂 but yea somebody choose lil baby

[@theohsocensireshow5668]

Paris talks in circles/contradictions. She was a hard to listen to right there. But the topic is not that hard to understand. BW have to stop being the backbones for BM. Let them uplift themselves. And while they are doing that, that’s when we can make those changes to not be so “aggressive”. Ive always had BM say im too aggressive. Even my mother would say it, without paying attention to the fact she raised us without my father, so I watched her have no choice but to be hard/aggressive in order to take care of her kids and protect us. Also My experiences with BM. Which I have to hold myself accountable for my choices. Our mothers followed their mothers and they followed their mothers. As BW we are still putting up with the same shit from black men that our great great grandmothers had to deal with. In today’s time BW are over it. Im not gonna shun all BM but Im definitely not gonna allow another BM to come in my life and play. Boundaries, Expectations, and standards BW and that’s for every race of man. PS. Martin cheated on Coretta with a white woman….but she stuck by her man tho.🙄 BW have to remove themselves from uplifting BM. It doesn’t get us anywhere but raising kids alone. Let BM do them and let’s just become the best versions of BW we can be. Struggle love is a thing of the past.

[@216Nevar]

💯

[@KitaRose]

Heavy on i have to be accountable for my choices in regards to dating. I absolutely agree alot of times we put ourselves in these unsafe relationships and then carry the pain and anger we got from it. Boundaries,expectations and standards 🙌🏾💯

[@theohsocensireshow5668]

@@KitaRose 💯💯💯

[@crystalrose955]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@octoberpheonix92]

You’re so right

[@leonacurry8799]

This lady is contradictory in everything she says. The one next to Kita

[@naimaevans5766]

I'm mad she's on the panel 😂😭😭

[@idontstare7513]

Agreed smh

[@essencepierce273]

All I know is Kita’s hair is bomb! I love the different opinions even though I don’t agree with everything.

[@RiotJayy]

Kita rose vs Candace owens NEEDS TO BE A SHOW ON THIS PODCAST. THEYRE SO EDUCATED AND HAVE SUCH DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES BUT CAN ARTICULATE AND EDUCATE I THINK THIS WOULD BE SO DOPE FOR THE CULTURE ...

[@CandyDreamzEnt]

When they say black women need to be soft they really say black women need to be submissive.

[@Beautifullymonique]

And stupid too 😂😂

[@womanish]

Chile somebody pick her so she can leave the rest of us alone.

[@alishaendre616]

😂😭

[@Luna-si5dh]

Please, because she ironed her cape today!

[@Colie.2010]

It was the “black women mug me when I walk in a room because I’m a pretty woman.” For me. I literally cackled out loud because I’ve never seen that type of delusion before.

[@womanish]

girl, a fantasy world @@Colie.2010

[@shhhperry9852]

That’s the thing, they are not ever going to pick her, because they are picking Becky.

[@BM-fi1oi]

The same people that tell ppl to smile don’t be smiling themselves.

[@shhhperry9852]

How entitled do you have to be to expect someone to smile just for you. I don’t know you, and you don’t know me, or what I could be coping with. Who are you that I have to smile at you? That’s how I feel when they say ish like that to me. Go look in the mirror and smile at yourself.

[@dejebony4614]

I've had struggle love and I got out if it. Most of my younger years I was in struggle love and baby now I just can't and won't put myself thru that again

[@shamanlee111]

That poor baby is just tryna get chose. I appreciate her humbling herself in oder to compete. 😂😂😂

[@KRose-lm7ki]

Who?

[@shhhperry9852]

Well she better get fit to go with that feminine and friendly.

[@ldkea05]

28:00 and Kita is spot on …. Removing the kids component and women still have to stay strong and agile

[@jade-chan3291]

Yes. Holding black men down is what is holding black women back. Yes it is

[@chelsy6386]

Leave brown shirt at home 😂nah it’s actually nice to see these things talked about in our community. As a single mom of 3 whose bd left me for a Mexican chick then came back when he was down this resonated with me fr its issues they won’t admit or acknowledge

[@sadhusounds]

Brown shirt probably the smartest person up there.

[@BriannaPressure]

Kita pretty much wrapped it back around to the whole mountain of issues that Paris missed which was in direct correlation to why we can’t just show up soft easily

[@MISSROCKSTARDIVA]

Black women we are like sour patch kids candies. We can be sweet or sour it depends on the person. I hate that we are like that sometimes some more than others. I’m so tired of talking about women being too hard it’s like I just want to be me! In the past I was soft people pleasing. But this life we living changes you. I’ve never been able to depend on a man nor have I seen men come in and lead or run things either. I’ve witnessed men lean on women be opportunistic because they play on the soft parts of you. We are women who naturally want to take care, be vulnerable, just BE! But we have to have some hardness after going through life it should be expected. The thing is Men feel entitled to this treatment without even being the Lead or King. They expect it just because they are men but women have to work for these men’s hearts still just barely getting crumbs. We have to be softer always sounds like in my mind you have to be more blind to any emotion that may upset or bruise the male ego. This phrase “More soft” really is just our traumas and triggers talking and acting out. We do take offense a lot but let’s not act like Menkind hasn’t played a major role in the way women behave today. They literally created us.. I love these relationship topics because we need a resolution to how we can become better community as a unit! Because we need each other!

[@keishaterrell1935]

💣💥 💯

[@ldkea05]

35:35 babyyyy we knowwwww on this panel that y’all owned y’all’s debate classes and at y’all’s schools !!!!! Well spoken and I love that the dialogue was factual, well spoken and no one was trampling over each other to get their points across

[@meagaindoingme2682]

I never wanted this to end❤Salute. I look forward to more. Thanks for sharing.

[@adeOLUWA]

"Hard" is relative. But when it's used to describe Black women, it is meant to be a word to bully us into shrinking/ silencing ourselves. Black women are expressive. When we are happy, we laugh out loud. When we are upset, we express it. We don't smile when we need to vent. We don't pretend. No Black woman wakes up and says, "Today I am going to be hard." But we respond to situations the way it’s dished to us. And THAT is what the "Black women are hard" folks find intimidating and threatening. But rather than say, "These queens 👸🏾 are so majestic and real that I feel intimidated by them." They gaslight us with labels that says one thing when they mean another. Ask them to break down what "soft" means with practical everyday examples, and watch them lose their nerves. Trying to shame Black women into being submissive to all and sundry, is just low-down dirty and disgusting.

[@msceandra]

She’s using the word “we” loosely just say you bookie

[@TheOriginalScorpioBelle]

18:37 She’s offended because she thinks she’s missing out on something. She doesn’t realize that the trash is taking itself out.

[@opulence_prime]

The girl sitting next to Stormie wants to be right so bad she can’t see past her nose. I’m fine with her giving counter arguments and defending black men but her arguments are weak. JM only made the Coretta comment about Meghan to smooth over saying it about a WW. JF mocks black women and is a colorist so that’s why BW aren’t rallying for him. She needs better examples and explanations for the behaviors. It will always be okay for BW to return to BM if they so choose because like before they left it will always holistically be to the benefit of BM to date BW. Sadly not always the case the other way around.

[@teedee7778]

My issue is more of he was asking for a Coretta but to me he isn't a Martin. I do think we're too focused on who he said it to and not the message or intention behind the message. That's what he wants because he sees her as the ultimate woman okay cool but you also need to be showing the attributes necessary for what comes with that. I also personally don't want the stereotype that comes with the strong black woman title. I've been strong and will continue to be strong, however, that doesn't mean I don't need to be handled with care or that I want to take whatever pain and struggle with no help or concern because I'm strong and can handle it. As amazing as it is that I can do and take whatever is thrown my way and still keep standing and keep going. I have learned there is no prize for being the one who took all the struggle and hardship because they were strong.

[@quiesha8968]

The woman on the left going harder for men than the men at the table. Chile, this must be her main topics to talk about.

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Convo: Struggle Love VS Trauma Bonding?

[@PerfectContradiction]

I think they're one in the same

[@lovebug6388]

​@@PerfectContradiction nope they're different. However trauma bonding can definitely lead to struggle love. And when one person heals from their trauma, often they leave the dynamic of struggle love because it's going backwards for them to stay.

[@Colie.2010]

Being delusional is being called out for not fact checking and still stating your point as if it it fact 😂

[@essencepierce273]

Kita come through! I also feel like it’s frustrating that black women have to be the hero. It’s what the democrats do every election… Biden literally said black women held him down during the election and it’s the same thing Jonathan Majors and Jeezy was doing.

[@MzQueen028]

I very much enjoyed this conversation. Y'all did amazing. To hear the current perceptions of all, & including the facts. I look forward to more of these talks, this group is intelligent & diverse..

[@EarthSunny1]

Kita you flowed this convo forward and checked the crap respectfully when needed. I loved it.

[@Thesoulfulcrossroads]

It was great to hear from Paris, she's they one panelist who managed to maintain a neutral and level-headed approach, providing a valuable voice of reason in the conversation.

[@Calebjones87]

How is Megan in shackles? She 45 and Jonathan is 34, to me it’s more like a PR stunt because they got together so randomly out of nowhere

[@Damnnikey]

I understand Paris POV is needed for the convo but she seemed a little contradictory. LOVE my girl Katie

[@vudeauxdoll6139]

I love Katie she’s such a joy.

[@Coco_Love]

I speak when spoken to when I’m out in public…

[@TheButterflyQueen]

We are more race, loyal because that’s what we see. That’s what we’ve always seen. We’ve seen our mamas date black men aunties, grandma we’ve just always seen it is until he recently it’s become OK to date outside of your race.

[@toniciahubbard9126]

When it was said we need to raise black men to make an environment for black women to be soft. That means financially make it so we don't have to take care of black men financially, mentally, and emotionally. That's a lot

[@crimsonskyy1]

Great conversation! Regarding choosing outside of the ethnic group, it’s multilayered and does not apply to each circumstance: BM were not allowed to even 👀 at WW less than 100 years ago. BW were taken by WM as fetishized fulfillment without consent less than 100 years ago. There is a layer of 1) doing what your ancestors couldn’t 2) there is also a modicum of privilege that comes with race jumping; you do not worry about the non-black counterpart in the same stress levels as you would your own. And above all none of us should care who someone loves as long as they don’t bash their own. When one needs to bash to feel better about their love, then your “love” definitely comes off as a CHOICE not a blessing

[@rosebud5107]

BM don’t need a pick me… that’s what the preferences are for 😂 ol girl gotta take the cape off

[@extraexoticconversation2696]

I love that y’all are having real conversations

[@Jassellssc]

I’m definitely with Paris on this one. Seems like Everyone else allowed their personal bias to cloud their judgement on the topic.

[@KitaRose]

Personally, i want to hear the bias and feelings around these topics because i think it’s important to understand different perspectives from different people. For me that’s the point …how do you feel about this with emphasis on feel. If that makes sense

[@toniciahubbard9126]

It's not intentional that we are hard it's all from love. We want black men to do better because if we are rising to the occasion we want then to also rise to the occasion.

[@black2thefuture80]

She came across as the stereotypical "hard" black woman while she was trying to prove her point. Kita and I were on the same page. I wish this episode was longer.

[@chelsy6386]

Also I love that you had Katie on that woman been grinding for a long time it’s great you invited her on!

[@dre_withwithout]

There’s a thin line between preference and prejudice. A lot of the time when people speak about preference and you let them keep talking it tends to lean more and more to sounding like a Fox News op-Ed piece.

[@iamsmiley9877]

Great topic! And honest for our community to face.

[@lolaliving4098]

The tv show Them on amazon prime explains to me why black women have to be “strong” or “hard”

[@paulgrantjr5621]

I feel like people are love sick instead of just learning to be their own individuals they worry more about being loved

[@Tuskbumper]

Great vid but i do think for viewers new to this form of discussion there should be more emphasis on who is who and their socials for us to find them directly in the video. You're already getting comments saying "that lady on the left and that man on the right" because we dont know anyone's names

[@Vicky_Slay]

For what? y’all don’t need to go and troll them because u might not like their viewpoint

[@keishaterrell1935]

​@@Vicky_SlayOR we DO like their viewpoints and would like to hear more from them on their platforms 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Vicky_Slay]

@@keishaterrell1935 50/50 but I will bet the first!

[@stracyb7545]

Why is my good sis in the tan/khaki long sleeve not understanding that nobody is out here protecting and standing up for black women like how the others do for their own?! We have to protect ourselves and that does not allow us to be soft 9/10 times. I feel like she is purposely ignoring the nuances behind said behaviour sigh

[@teaniahroberts1770]

Love this snow. Also, I love that you have Katy on!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@leiannab8986]

Yes Kita.....

[@CosmoTruths]

Girl in the tan, beside Kita, doesn’t understand generational trauma. And ptsd throughout the cells and how it passes on. But I digress.

[@oyas_oracle]

How so?

[@shhhperry9852]

She’s young, she’ll learn.

[@KelceyGovan]

Looking amAAAAzing Kita! 🤩❤️

[@sidibaesidibae]

What a great conversation. Loved the discourse!

[@klid4444]

If health and fitness were the true desire, then questions would've been asked. Bc being active, fit, and healthy are not mutually exclusive to small bodies. Normally, when men say they want a fit woman, what they really mean is they don't want a fat woman. There's nothing wrong with that, but just say what you really mean bc if she was a little smaller and completely out of shape, he would've been cool with that.

[@TheOriginalScorpioBelle]

The percentage of larger people who are healthy is so small it doesn’t need to be mentioned. Too much weight is unhealthy for humans full stop. 🛑. No matter how much we want to make it otherwise. There can also be unhealthy skinny people.

[@marco_zoe_lo7987]

Paris stays speaking FACTS..

[@a.redington7914]

I feel like the lady next to Kita has trauma with the black community… she might feel rejected.I can’t take her serious.

[@ldkea05]

30:07 oooooo cmon Kittttaaaaaaaaaa ! 30:37 dropping them gemmmz

[@LadyDyDTM]

Enough said PARIS 🎯 This was a great video. Conversation is needed 🔥Kita Rose

[@KitaRose]

Thank you for watching ❤️❤️❤️

[@LadyDyDTM]

@@KitaRose 💕

[@_ParadiseParis]

This was a good convo

[@Eyecyhu]

KITAAA! So Nice to SEE YA 😂❤ I WISH YOU’d upload more 😢

[@ldkea05]

25:12 Issa WHOLE ASS word 25:26 PREACH!!

[@amark8786]

I seen a little snippet about women being soft. Now I feel like we keep going through struggle love because we have been going through this from generation to generation and the struggle is just getting harder and people are just accepting it

[@thelastofadyingbreed1492]

It's ALWAYS a type that be rooting for these blk dudes who date white women

[@martyrobinson8954]

Damn kita. 😍😍

[@Nathanlee510]

I stay with black queens amen 🙏🏿

[@Vicky_Slay]

I cannot for the love of me listen to that woman on the left talk

[@RiotJayy]

I WOULD PAY ANYTHING TO SEE A ALL WOMAN PODCAST WITH KITA ROSE ,KEKE PALMER, Candace OWENS & I BELIEVE HER NAME KATIE THE WOMAN IN OINK AT THE END OF THE TABLE ..I WOULD WATCH EVERY EPISODE

[@extraexoticconversation2696]

I need the episodes to be longer💜💜💜💜💜

[@ItsTinaB]

I wish the guys engaged more on this one

[@joytotheworld9254]

I find it often that Kita dismissed and told that level headed woman that her opinion was “bullshit”. Just because you don’t agree with something that is logical and open minded doesn’t mean it’s BS. I completely understand the woman who understands both sides. I understand both sides

[@Eyecyhu]

Nah, it was bs. She gives pick me. If when someone makes a good point you change it to avoid admitting your wrong is not making many good points in my humble opinion 😊

[@EboniFlowers]

And I personally feel she was VERY open and patient with that woman’s opinions, she just didn’t agree which she doesn’t HAVE to. I agree w/ KITA a 1000%! #SorryNotSorry

[@_AmikaC_]

(In regards to Jonathan/ Meagan) One thousand percent. They continuously kept shooting her down but her opinions were based on intellect rather than feelings and contradictions.

[@peachesandpoets]

I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, but one of the Kings children even spoke out and told Jonathan Majors to leave his mother to rest in peace. Coretta and Michelle aren't just objects who stood by their man. Coretta was a whole person before, during and after being with Dr king. Reducing women to these mules that stand back while males do the work is demeaning AND inaccurate. People love to spout silly opinions and then think that someone can't handle a different "opinion" when they call it out. No, people won't let nonsense go unchecked. She sounded like a white person talking about reverse racism. She completely ignored power dynamics and acted like black males and women have equal footing. Like music videos in the 90s and 2000s just didn't happen. Like misogynoir just doesn't exist. It wasn't even pickme, it was just really odd. She was plain old lying about statistics and facts, too. This isn't fox news. Lies go checked.

[@jasminemoon9965]

@peachesandpoets thank you. This should have been the real point

[@ldkea05]

18:43 noted ! Added to the vocabulary

[@dre_withwithout]

Also the argument of “soft” and “hard”(pause) needs to also take into account what if some black women just want to be “hard”? Why is that an issue? If you are letting a woman, a black woman be free to be herself maybe she wants to be “hard”.

[@emiller1822]

Storm and Kita ❤

[@still83washington53]

Ol girl use the word "we" entirely too much in the negative

[@Finksta22]

I love this ❤

[@khariahpayne]

What they are trying to get at is black women already have a stigma against them. Often we are called hard, mean, aggressive, etc., but those same acts are called hardworking, persevering, assertive in other racial groups. So saying raise the black boys to create a comfortable space is to more so get back to a place of understanding. That understanding, genuinely, creates a comfortable space. Simply put someone/group has to take the first step and typically it’s assumed and often proven women will then expound on the first step and further it along and help keep up that comfortable space. Black men AND women are “hard” because they have to be by proxy of all the forms of racism; HOWEVER because of misogyny men being “hard” is more acceptable than women.

[@k0k01]

Paris delulu for real, she contradicted herself the WHOLE TIME!!! Someone, anyone please pick her!!!! 😩

[@TheOriginalScorpioBelle]

2:21 I’m not surprised by who had the side of Johnathan.

[@theealiennreview6912]

I agree with all they're opinions

[@open6428]

EXCELLENT 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@TheOriginalScorpioBelle]

5:25 brown sweater is beautiful and doesn’t even know it. Her words tell everyone how little self esteem she has.

[@WALLACE0000]

GREAT SHOW!!

[@extraexoticconversation2696]

Love the show

[@mayurakshidas3224]

Jonathan Majors is insane saying he's MLK😢😢

[@a.redington7914]

Kita @36:24😂😂😂😂 facts!!!!

[@deyfakindafunk]

Megan needed to blink twice when she was with that Franklin guy

[@essencepierce273]

Ooof, we cannot be docile for several reasons. Black women are underpaid and are overlooked for promotional opportunities in corporate America. McKinsey just released a podcast episode that said for every “100 men who leap forward in the workplace, 87 women leap forward, but for black women it’s only 54.” I love the debate but I definitely think the one who said that we can be docile now needs to do some research and come back. I would love to see this series continue but this time with people pulling up stats to challenge what she’s sayin.

[@KitaRose]

Can you tell me the name of the podcast? I wanna listen to the episode you mentioned! ❤️❤️

[@showtime2454]

I rather be in struggle love than not being in love at all

[@nikkie_a]

Being docile and being a pushover is not the same thing.

[@EarthSunny1]

We needed different men on this panel.