What is System Latency

System latency is the delay between your mouse or keyboard actions and the resulting pixel changes on the display, say from a gun muzzle flash or character movement. Hear more about system latency from NVIDIA’s Tony Tamasi in this video.
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[@lowlevelsystems]

what is system latency? when your card arrives next year.

[@shaneyt91]

Exactly right! You release your card in September, and it becomes available in January the following year (if we're lucky). So 4 months of latency?

[@VenEm]

eh.. actually network latency. their fkn shipping network is taking too gdamn long

[@goblinphreak2132]

sick burn

[@tugaykaya7738]

@@shaneyt91 if you're lucky the supply won't arrive so u get back your money and don't shove it up nvidias arse u morons

[@datdude8162]

Nvidia manufacturing and distribution latency. Helps sustain the highest prices possible. Gotta keep demand high as long as possible!

[@macobean]

what is system latency? when you release videos of your new gpu but 90% of the buyers cant have it lol

[@dangabbay1]

90%? how about 99%?

[@aasutossh]

What do you want?

[@FadeDeerFn]

“Faster Hardware”-Sold Out

[@SoupeDeSup]

Itsnt sold out. For beeing sold out it need to be released 1st

[@FadeDeerFn]

SUP' 💀💀💀

[@deminybs]

it's okay I'm holding on to my 2080 ti for a while anyways...1st gpu I ever put a waterblock on (: cuz next time I upgrade my GPU I'll also be upgrading from my LG 27GL850

[@KawaiiM4A1S]

Guys I think we needed Nvidia reflex to be able to buy the 3080 and 3090...

[@alexr9030]

Nice video , please make.more videos with Tony their quite good and you learn fun stuff. Still enjoying my 1080 ti and will be changing when the 4000 series come up . The 3000 are a nice upgrade but I wait for more vram

[@SBDGaming]

Thank you so much for the insight to competitive Gaming. There are very few people who understand this information I can't wait to provide a accredited source of information to my teammates and friends.

[@pro0nk]

Really good job making it understandable for everyone

[@90kuky]

Nice explination. Great job guys

[@harshit8277]

me playing games on 60hz and GTX 970: still somewhat wins some games and thinks I'm good at it *after watching the video: so it was luck (starts playing against bots)

[@wyatthoneycutt7572]

imagine using intel celeron 1.5ghz cpu with integtrated gfx in it. imagine playing minecraft at 22fps with only 2 chunks rendered at a time. imagine takking the 2gbs of ram out of a broken school chromebook and wanting to add it to ur pc bc ur pc so trash but then realizing it doesnt even have an open pcie slot. imagine being named wyatt honeycutt. pls kill me B)

[@mohamed_bouallegue]

Thanks if u can provide us with more documentation about the topic and the Ampere architecture

[@gustavogaleano5937]

This is Awesome!!! Great job guys!!! All of this technology in the world of gaming is amazing!!!

[@Jai.77]

Great video thank you .. finally a real explanation

[@anthonyatuhaire]

Remember this guy in computer chronicals? Where they were doing a segment on gaming pcs? Man, he's come far

[@basharqaisi2527]

Thx for explaining

[@deminybs]

Thanks guys 👍

[@valinis7086]

Very informative, I have to say I understand how my gpu functions now, thank you nvidia

[@stevebomer7670]

That’s so awesome, thank you for explaining latency types, this was really easy to understand, my 6 year old niece loved it 🥰 Time to go see for myself with my RTX 3080 Founders edition! Oh wait.

[@zazabean23]

pssst, u dont need a 3080 if u care about latency. CPU & ram matter far more than a GPU unless your playing above 1080p low which in that case you could logically justify buying a 3080, but then you'd be on a 1440p + monitor with higher latency already. It's not nvidias fault that there's a literal shortage of silicone and only one factory is operating right now.

[@stevebomer7670]

@@zazabean23 2k monitor

[@AithaChannel]

thanks for the knowledge...

[@comeatmepussycat6777]

Do you guys have a solution for NVIDIA latency ?? aka the delay (measured in months) between the new product announcement & the actual availability of the product to general public

[@euochapolin3934]

Gpu escale or Display? Which one is the best?

[@MrKick123]

Neat and informative, noice

[@blazingfiregaming]

So this to help us also understand what reflex does

[@SupraSav]

Your linked guide in the description goes to a dead page! That little nugget of gold about exclusive fullscreen - for games that are optimized.

[@D4NAFC]

3 Weeks later and the 3080 is still out of stock Nvidia...

[@shaneyt91]

You are implying it was every truly *IN* stock... but I get your point. :D

[@Rex-lb7yu]

@@lottexy and if you want the 4080 he had to wait until the 5080 is released and so on and so on...

[@stackfrostdev]

Truly ...It feels bad ..I have money ...But can't get it ...No scope

[@mercyfaten01]

Not sure if I should just wait till the 3080 super versions come out . But out of stock here as well , money to burn and nothing to buy.

[@D4NAFC]

@@mercyfaten01 Honestly I dont see them coming in stock for at least another year.

[@Johnmadrid1988]

Damn missed first comment like i missed buying a card.

[@not-m30]

2030: What is Brain Latency.

[@pe4153]

Always better to have an engineer describe it than some hack who only thinks they understand it

[@eve9n857]

nice info

[@aidannerdgaming3596]

tq nvidia now i muchly understand the latency i just checked this video after i know about hardware accelerated gpu scheduling

[@Rulody]

Makes sense how I’ve been losing gunfights on cod

[@Challenger461]

Yup

[@DeathTempler]

Option's not showing up in Overwatch or Nvidia control panel. Reinstalled both driver and game, nothing. Was working in PTR the other day. Anyone got a fix? Can't find anything yet.

[@nintendians]

that's good to know.

[@JWR003]

Will we get any uploads today? I need something to admire #UltimatePlay

[@Francisc546]

Thanks for the explanation on the system latency and the nvidia reflex SDK hope it comes to more competitive games in the near future :D

[@TheGreesmunke]

Great info!!! Keep it up NVIDIA. Thanks for informing us so we know what to look for.

[@takurotsuchiya4313]

Does hdmi extender cause lag?

[@zcryptiicpr1890]

I have 1660 Ti, i5-9400F and 16GB ram (pre build pc) which nvidia reflex option is better? (in warzone)

[@zcryptiicpr1890]

I play on low settings (Texture normal and AA off)

[@zazabean23]

use the reflex + boost.

[@sreeru]

Mine shows render present ltency 8.3 Is this good or bad?

[@neuuish]

that was surprisingly very informative.

[@abrahamicreligionsbowbefor3585]

i just wanted to learn how to make windows 10 stop being slow

[@bertuj]

good luck on that lol

[@Nickkxiii]

Lol you wont find that here they just want to sell their stuff and these videos are made accordingly

[@NobleVI_343]

remove bloatware and check to see how bottlenecked your RAM/ CPU is

[@vstormvbringer76]

Thank you very much Nvidia devs!!!!!!!!

[@expriestxiety1042]

So i need potato pc to have advantage on peaking?

[@brunoyuji9203]

Really wish we had a properly designed OLED gaming monitor for that instant response from OLED along with nVidia's latency optimization.

[@zazabean23]

Agreed, but input latency isn't that simple. There's other things that are consider "input lag" but wouldn't exactly be shown on paper. A lot of stuff can be down on a Operating System to reduce the latency and handle the inputs a lot better.

[@NobleVI_343]

literally not possible

[@zazabean23]

@@NobleVI_343 It is possible though. It already exists.

[@NobleVI_343]

@@zazabean23 got a link?

[@YEST1]

Oh boi.. here we go again!

[@pleasecontactme4274]

My 144hz feels really smooth already

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

I have 144hz and in some games i have 60fps but i tried to switch to 60hz but experience was terrible even with 60fps. differance felt like worth and having 40fps. Maus delay was terrible

[@123reivaj]

Very Cool! :D I understand that latency also negatively affects *Virtual Reality* video games, I hope that this technology can also help improve the VR decreasing the uncomfortable and dizzy sensations while increasing the immersion of the virtual worlds.

[@joelconolly5574]

Can confirm latency issues. Having a gaming laptop with i7 7th gen and GTX 1050 Ti while playing Apex Legends at 3-10Mbps with 60Hz screen is probably a great challenge. Now imagine getting better hardware and stable internet. That is where the real fun begins!

[@zazabean23]

dont buy a 144hz , only go for 240hz and above.

[@joelconolly5574]

@@zazabean23 why? Apex can barely reach that in high settings. Best is about 165 Hz at this point.

[@zazabean23]

@@joelconolly5574 First off, don't go above 180 fps on apex. Their game engine is so dog shit and busted. Just 240hz and above. Don't play on high settings if u care about latency anyway.

[@nowaywithyoueveragai]

Nvidia pls make your AI work with several common hardware setups to find the best scenario i.e. low latency in the most common games. When I first started playing fortnite. Frame rate in replaymode was 5 Ms, at some time it was even less. In the last months it went up and up until it reached 12 Ms . Now with a just fresh reinstall after some non related issues, the frame rate is 8 to 11 Ms.

[@gryppy]

I never really thought about system latency before the nvidia reflex trailer, and still didn’t believe it when I saw it but when I tried it I got a lot better headshot percentage.

[@biswaranjansethy3309]

Understanding Explanation......

[@masdargames7133]

True gamer adapts and conquer system latency..

[@blazingfiregaming]

Its not 100% something you fell but something that helps with response from clicks and also what you see

[@471shawn]

wow thanks for this video but no answers how to fix any of these things at all !!!!!!

[@mrernest7157]

at this point im pretty much convinced its the bottlenecks that mess with people, which would mean that as low latency as possible isnt always the best for everyone no matter the gear? In which case a clear overview over when you are cpu/gpu bound/bottlenecked and how to adapt settings, would work better for people?

[@zazabean23]

Lower input lag is actually better for everyone in terms of motor skills. This is a literal fact and i can anecdotally tell you this is also true for me personally. Then again i'm not an average person by any means.

[@Rob-dd7dm]

What is "Launch Fail?"

[@TheFunLuvnCRIMINAL]

Nvidia has left the chat.

[@kAshB2x]

NICE. Can't wait to try out Nvidia Reflex on my new "RTX 3080 Founders Editi-.. Oh wait!

[@l1mi13]

When, why and what kind of games run better with a locked/unlocked max_fps? I heard somewhere that an unlocked FPS can cause more inputlag but at the same time I know some games think more FPS is better. Like in Quake one you will get lower ping time to the server with higher FPS due to how the server/client work. (lets keep possible tearing out of the equation).

[@zazabean23]

Unlocking your FPS can have less input lag because your allowing your FPS to climb higher than it's average. Capping them at your highest average can have better latency & less stutters because your GPU isn't at 100% utilization. You can uncap your fps in games where you have reflex + boost because it prevents your GPU from maxing out. 100% gpu utilization causes input latency. Higher FPS = lower input lag, but it's not the only thing that gives you lower latency on a computer system.

[@l1mi13]

My bad I should have formulated myself better. We are thinking about completely diffrent scenarios. Youre writing about games with a heavy load and I was mostly thinking about games where you can get +1k min FPS. But yes, its usually a good idea to avoid spikes if thats an issue. I was more curious about what happens when you feed your monitor too many frames. The developer of osu! recommend capping it at 4x monitor Hz even if you can get it stable at 8x. The latency goes down to 0.3ms with unlimited/not capped and up to 1.6ms at 960 FPS on a GTX 970. Still he claim that 960 is optimal for a 240Hz monitor and that anything above cause delay/lag. That also goes hand in hand with what I read in an article about monitors a while ago. I must have been half drunk when writing that question 7 months ago.

[@zazabean23]

@@l1mi13 Assuming the game engine is not bugging out, feeding your monitor excess frames is fine. It just causes tearing if not synced up properly. There's technologies that were developed for this reason. The scanout will be faster the more FPS you're getting. it's all good homie lmfao. a gtx 970 is a okay card and could do that. I have a 1070 ti and i get well over 1.1k fps in multiple games. Krunker, Rocket league, Fortnite, etc. That being said i do very risky tweaking with my system and obviously i could get more fps but some of the tweaks are prioritizing the input from my peripherals before other important tasks.

[@chrisjtom]

I'm going to have to start reviewing cards again if I'm going to get new ones I guess. That is real latency. 360hz is marketing. The main problem now is not being able to host your own servers for games, and having to do crossplay in Warzone that adds so much latency that we are back to late 90s early 2000 ping.

[@YellyClips]

Can you guys increase geforce now free time to 2 hours or 1.5 hours plz

[@emiliooberg2156]

FYI If you have a good CPU you should use it to handle your connections, it's way faster then your NIC.

[@user-oq5gy1qd5b]

Sold out

[@Mashburn007]

Thank you Tony 😍😍👍👍, Great video, Clear and to the point Well explained 🔥 Nvidia if you decide to giveaway a PC now would be a great time , Make me game again 😔 #UltimatePlay #RTXOn #GeforceGarage

[@chonkywawa]

wow nots sure if mine is correct but ingame latency say i get around 5ms-7ms playing valorant

[@zazabean23]

5ms is reaching, but a 8-12ms is possible with high end gear and a tweaked operating system and peripherals.

[@yitzun5080]

This is going to change fps games in a very good way

[@lemov5439]

Can it run Crysis?

[@loadedsandwich5812]

the amount of times i died to peakers advantage

[@goblinphreak2132]

the main issue for peekers advantage is lag compensation for network code. in their little demo, they were showing two systems, same network latency, but one with their nvidia reflex enabled to reduce latency, and the other with disabled. they are CREATING an issue, then solving it by saying "buy our gpu" to get more sales. in reality the biggest "fuck you" to us gamers are the games, aka all of them, which utilize a lag compensation system, so low ping players don't shit on high ping players.... quake 3 arena days were mint, 5 ping would shit on an entire server due to lowest latency. i remember having dial up and getting shit on because i had 50 ping. got comcast in the new house and bam, 5 ping, shit on everyone else.... i miss the days of ping advantage. and whats funny is, the whole point of lag compensation was to help have MORE gamers together to make servers more populated. except now there is easily 10x+ more gamers in the world playing pc gaming, so you don't NEED lag compensation to help fill servers. you can literally have east/middleus/west servers, and everyone would have a good time. but no, they use lag comp and put my east coast ass on a west coast server and the only time I can win is if i abuse peekers advantage.....

[@zazabean23]

@@goblinphreak2132 Your reaction time is the biggest bottleneck. 2nd is input latency, and then network lag. If your ping is stable then it's not a huge deal, if it has high jitter and packet loss then it's a huge issue. I prefer to focus on my motor skills > network latency. I don't play videos games at the moment simply because my internet is so awful that it's actually pointless. I'm waiting until i get my 360hz and the atompalm mouse comes out and i move into my new house. I can't stand dying to fucking bots when i'm easily better.

[@MyNameIssaSimon]

Great video but due to not explaining the time frame of the latency clips really makes the clips useless

[@hitman-bl6ek]

People with the best latency will have the biggest advantage in competitive fps games

[@Axtrem1s2]

What is system latency? having to buy a low end card while waiting for the 30 series

[@TheTopMostDog]

Great topic, but I'm still yet to see anyone explain it clear enough for the average gamer. People just don't understand, and I don't think this is going to get through to them.

[@khonjel_singh]

Nice informative video. Looking forward to reduced latency in wider variety of games in the future.

[@FusionlitGames]

2020: 15ms Meanwhile 2023: looking for video 7ms to 1ms

[@TheMrMinetaur]

So it's just trying to remove latency between player and a PC?

[@gettingshotsomeonesgonnapa8635]

No, it removes the lateny between the gpu or cpu, as I understood

[@affenkonig1636]

I love NVIDIA 🥰

[@pandamann1111]

Okay but why isn’t DLSS 2.0 on modern warfare

[@muhammadfaruq9824]

me with 30fps gameplay , see this video just "😀"

[@CenobiteBeldar]

So that's why I keep dying all the time lol

[@zazabean23]

Nah, but you'd be a lot better with lower input lag.

[@pavant9057]

Hey does my Nvidia gtx 1660ti is supporting this latency?

[@gettingshotsomeonesgonnapa8635]

Sorry, no, I have the same card, but if it has 6 gb of vram, you can play with ray traycing. Unfortunately my card is 4 gb. But it doesnt support that latency.

[@pavant9057]

@@gettingshotsomeonesgonnapa8635 so my card supports or not I got an update for the card like 28th of the month so will that latency support to my 1660ti card?

[@gettingshotsomeonesgonnapa8635]

@@pavant9057 did you read my reply? If not, I wont bother explaining.

[@mumtazkhan6926]

Latency matters because we are here after loosing a call duty game

[@TCGTV98]

Imagine this happening in milli seconds 😲

[@agnieszkagensieniec2609]

Hello, i have an question What is more better GeForce RTX 3090 or Quadro RTX 8000?

[@skooma1855]

never mind system latency...focus on product supply first!

[@zazabean23]

That's not how that works. There's a literal shortage in the chips that make up CPU's and GPUS. Only one factory is operating right now. Do some research

[@caganaydnyuz9278]

How to test pc latency

[@RyadMax]

Benchmarks

[@incomingz44]

Love the part where bottleneck scenarios are explained, good stuff!

[@RyadMax]

People think that all of nvidia workers do only one thing at a time wtf

[@GhettoPCbuilds]

TFW all this doesn't matter when a server is 64 tick.

[@mkmahi2871]

The Channel Name Should Be 'Nvidia Geforce Free School'.

[@BUDA20]

Warzone update with Reflex + vsync on a gsync monitor is excellent, but please help them fix the frame limiter, is still garbage, and it hinders latency when activated even way below the limit, there is something truly wrong with that limiter, at least is precise now, but absolutely unusable , for everyone with gsync: uncap the game and use Reflex + vsync

[@CharleyTank]

Latency? oh, right the blender trick got it.

[@Life_is_Death-is]

In 2018 240hz had no ghosting In 2023 240hz had more ghosting than 540hz 😂

[@Enlargest]

15ms the lowest ? isnt the 360hz monitor a 1ms monitor? how can u get lower?

[@zazabean23]

wow you literally didn't understand a word that came out of that guys mouth. No monitor on the market will have a 1ms pixel response time covering every color transition. Input lag isn't pixel response time. Pixel response time "1ms" is how long it takes for a pixel on your screen to switch to another color. Input lag would be scanout frequency (hz/refresh rate) and display processing (extra lag to make the picture (frame) look better. 15ms is not the lowest possible input lag on a computer.

[@Relentless_Games]

So if I buy rtx 3090 and 240hz monitor does it mean that 赞玛努 Zhāngmànyù will actually get shot when I shoot him?

[@gettingshotsomeonesgonnapa8635]

Imao

[@NobleVI_343]

no, it just means you will die with less latency and in high definition

[@edsolucoes9510]

EU estou EM todos OS canais

[@richardh418]

Gee I need a minimum five thousand dollar computer to keep up.

[@ronnysiri2934]

I did it for 3 grand when the 2080ti came out, so you can do it today for less than 2.5k, have better specs & buy yourself a 2020 monitor as well for 3k.

[@Sarhan.Aashir]

so basically competitive gaming is now Pay To Win (or Pay To Gain Advantage over someone).

[@ExtensofacasBr]

Life is pay to win, you also live in the beast debt slavery system.

[@INSANEDOMINANCE]

You always have put out well explained videos to help the average consumer learn about complex tech. I imagine the dislikes this video gets are from people who haven’t gotten their new graphics cards yet. 🙂

[@shaneyt91]

If so, they deserve the dislikes. They paper launched a video card that had massive hype and they knew that they had absolutely no way to deliver. Now they waste time making worthless videos like this instead of actually addressing their massive screw-up. They publish a single small "Q&A" that effectively provides ZERO useful information. There should be no surprise that people are upset. Nvidia failed their customers, and doesn't even care enough to communicate effectively.

[@INSANEDOMINANCE]

Shane Fatzinger I only read the first sentence to give you this response: they do not deserve the dislikes on this video because of a separate issue.

[@INSANEDOMINANCE]

Nvidia didnt fail anyone, they didn’t have to release anything. Launches of new high demand products are always like this, I don’t know why people expected anything different. These small batch releases can be looked as beta testing the cards as far as Im concerned, which early adopters get a free game and geforce now so id say thats fair compensation.

[@shaneyt91]

@@INSANEDOMINANCE Actually, that is incorrect. Case in point being the RTX 2080. The RTX 2080 FE allowed for pre orders. August 20, 2018 preorders went live. September 20, 2018 they were delivered and available at retail. This would have COMPLETELY prevented the bot fiasco with the 3080 if they had followed the same process. So yes, they DID demonstrably fail their customers here. They did a paper launch because they didn't want AMD stealing their thunder with their Big Navi card. They didn't have even close to the inventory that they needed, and they knew it. Also, they DID have to release something. An electronics company that doesn't innovate and release new products will ultimately collapse. You think they could have just gone the rest of the year without a new card, when AMD is knocking on the door with a brand new one of their own? You're crazy. They are a publicly held company beholden to their shareholders. They DID have to release something for their shareholders' profit margin, lest they fall behind and look inferior to AMD. (Also, the fact that your reply is highlighted just shows how delusional the blind fanbois are.) I guess we expected different because *** The last major card Nvidia release was different!!! *** SMH

[@INSANEDOMINANCE]

Shane Fatzinger I think people should f consider we are in a pandemic still and apply that to giving leniency to Nvidia and those who are manufacturing the cards, giving them time to do so in a healthy manner. Also, the fact that demand is unprecedented because more people are at home to work and for leisure. Newegg has come out and said they have seen traffic that has surpassed black Friday demand. Intel acknowledges that the computer has become essential during these times. The only reason they needed to come out with new cards is because they stopped production of 20 series cards, otherwise they were mostly the performance leaders. But thats a whole different topic. I wanted a 3080 and wasn’t able to get one, I was disappointed but given the circumstances I’m not that worried about it. I believe they are doing the best they can to release what they have when they have it because they don’t want to make money. Again, this video doesnt deserve a dislike because of that, it’s a unique feature that adds value to their customers going back to the 900 series which I think is neat and shouldn’t be overlooked because their graphics cards are sold out. And idk what a highlighted comment or reply means. 😅

[@ThunderKat]

Did they ever play FPS games? even if one has the advantage the user with lag all over the place can see you first as long as he is the one picking on the corner. Is the only reason high ping users most of the time still manage to go aggressive and kill you.

[@zazabean23]

That wasn't even English but games with very optimized net code don't 100% work like that. If you have a very long ping and system latency then you can probably win majority of the gunfights.

[@vishuumadi4070]

I have low end pc then too I am a best gamer 🔥🔥

[@juangm1688]

perdon pero por hablar asi pero ahora tiene mas errores geforce now y ni fortnite anda bien y tengo una bueno pc me compre geforce now y ahora me estoy arepintiendo

[@12Burton24]

If the latency of the 3000 is so bad as Nvidias delivery latency...well than its better to stick to the old cards or just go for AMD if they bring some good cards.