What is the BEST Class in The War Within?

[@dvinelul]

Answer, we dont know. That change every single week.

[@hellothere8812]

exactly

[@NickKek-pz8kc]

what we do know though is that arcane mage is before every release on ptr top pumping and then gets nerfed to b tier kek

[@KingOfBattle86]

ive mained a hunter ever since WOD but im thinking of changing it up any suggestions

[@ZucoWoW]

dude those pipes though... Well done mate :)

[@VesperalTV]

Hahaha thanks bro

[@Saimeren]

Is this praise for Blood DK from before or after the tank nerfs?

[@cresentz23]

Wondering the same thing lol

[@xiejun5680]

Seems like before. He mentions DS as a major way to recoup damage. Since the rework, DS is returning less than a soul stone. I'm a BDK main and I've been playing in Beta. It's brutal. They definitely need to buff DS slightly for their to be any chance of BDK doing keys.

[@Saimeren]

@@xiejun5680 Ouch, that's rough.

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

Has to be considering his praise of blood dk as the best tank, post nerf it's at the bottom with prot pally and borderline useless. Also his mention of Evoker solidifies this. With the tank needs Aug is once again required for high end content and that'll bleed down just like it did in DF with groups refusing to take you if you're Dev or Pres.

[@xiejun5680]

@@Arntor-kf9hi I am obviously bias towards BDK because I love the entire class. That being said, even I admit that prot pally got a shotgun blast to the face with the last nerf. Prot warrior and guardian druid moon walked away from the nerfs. If the meta goes kitey again, VDH will be tops. If not, get a bear or a shield.

[@hunterbell2066]

Glad to hear Arcane is still doing work. I was worried after that last round of nerfs lol. As always, sick video and much appreciated

[@jacobmitchell9227]

Same man I was planning to main it but got scared lol I loved playing it on beta! Hopefully it’s good

[@marvinmcpherson3178]

I’m completely new to WoW. Arcane mage looks fun and I want to play it but a lot of my friends are telling me not to cause it’s too hard. Do you feel that a new player could pick up Arcane or should I avoid it?

[@mullz113]

You’re gonna have a hell of a time learning this game if you’re new regardless of what class you pick imo, so I’d say go for it and just have fun 🤷‍♂️ that’s what it’s about after all. Good luck

[@DuhBuhh]

Banger video! Liked and subscribed

[@mellowsunset7730]

I've really liked your content in the run-up to the xpac. I can tell you put thought into it. Mained priest the last 3 xpacs, haven't been able to main my OG main (the mage) but have wanted to so this might be my big chance.

[@VesperalTV]

Thankyou man! Yeah go for it!

[@LoveLifeDaily]

Bro, you've made me change my main about 10 times in the last week! As someone that's in the top 0.1% of the playerbase (KSM + 5/8 portals last season) videos like this are super helpful as, and I'm not afraid to say it, I am a fotm abuser. Based on this video, which was extremely clean and well made btw, and your recent videos covering this kinda stuff I think I've finally settled on Rogue as my main for TWW! Will dabble in VDH (the best tank) and Havoc as my alt, maybe do some healing on Disc as it also looks broken. Thankyou so much for helping me settle on my main VesperalTV you are the best!

[@alexanderfrost1336]

no fotm in any of those choices mate XD. all the worst specs in the game lmao

[@jinio2128]

@@alexanderfrost1336 thats the joke

[@TheShawnMower]

The sarcasm is dripping. The irony that a top 0.1% player would rely on KZbin channels to tell you what to play had me going for a second.

[@p3ngi3]

Play what you want. Don’t get trolled and play the meta

[@DaanavWOW]

bro, having 5/8 portals is not even close to 0.1% of the players, not even having every portal is close to that

[@ConeyIslandKing]

We've been able to skyride as evoker for ages now...

[@VesperalTV]

Oh lol

[@Takarde]

Hey! I have always loved Frost DK graphic style. So now, DW ou 2H ? :)

[@wesleyvl8572]

Play what class you want to play but warlocks are the best ever

[@stann4730]

Lorewise and thematically

[@dubaz2989]

Stationary turret, what a gameplay!

[@Shiva-zn4nz]

@@dubaz2989 a cool looking turret*

[@droniholland7185]

Do 2-hander main classes still suck without the legendary with TWW?

[@popopiidzdsq9079]

while mage is insanely strong, I would like to remind everyone that it is a difficult class to play mage are considered very tanky but most mage die very often cause their tankiness come from proper utilisation of defensive fire require a lot of attention to play properly since it's a very reactive spec and frost shatter mech is clunky

[@VesperalTV]

You make a good point about the defensives!

[@Ioannisg95]

You mea it is hard for their roration?

[@popopiidzdsq9079]

@@Ioannisg95 Not only their rotation their utility and defensive to Thats why most mage perform poorly even at CE lvl of play

[@SonOfTheImam]

Mah boy is back with another video, huge W❤!!

[@VesperalTV]

Thankyou bro❤️

[@ConeyIslandKing]

You should do a vid on what classes feel bad to play - ie rogue, boomkin etc

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

Recorded before tank chnages? Blood isnt doing so hot right now with the death strike changes

[@VesperalTV]

Most tanks I’ve played with and heard from saying blood feels better than ever because of the DRW CDR from bone storm

[@georgealintanase1701]

Hey Vesperal, great video, as usual. Tell what addon and/or profile are you using for nameplates

[@VesperalTV]

Thanks dude! its my own plater profile, free in my discord! updating it for TWW very soon!

[@arsalanabbasi9323]

What do you think about shamans ? Is it good for a main ?

[@VesperalTV]

Definitely a solid choice

[@Vichax_]

Even with the nerfs arcane comes out strong still.

[@raechu_01210]

My reaction upon seeing the thumbnail was "damn he really took 18 minutes to say Mage huh". Like there is only one class that has consistently had amazing design and development on it for the last few years and it's the blue class (not that one).

[@VesperalTV]

Lmfao

[@marcelfully2827]

Enhancer is superfun after the changes 🙌

[@Sympanet]

Poor Vesp doesn’t know that warlock is always the best class

[@EasternOrthodoxG9]

I'm really looking forward to maining mage, both arcane and fire look great for m+ and frost will be great for doing high level delves.

[@VesperalTV]

Great choice my friend

[@DaimyoTV]

@@EasternOrthodoxG9 frost is a sleeper for m+ too. It went under the radar in beta but it's going to do well on live

[@EasternOrthodoxG9]

@Daimyo- I'm sure it will be great, but personally in m+ I think the other two specs will outperform and look more fun

[@6Churches]

Is this a re-upload?

[@srrymonkey]

Love your videos. I get everyone who loves a spec or class will doom and gloom but I’m glad you try and keep it up beat. Started playing in S4 after a hiatus from beginning of DF. Playing since Cata, and couldn’t pick a main for TWW… picked up current arcane mage as I played fire/arcane in SL and man am I excited for the changes in TWW, even if they nerfed arcane down again I still love the visuals. Keep up the great videos and energy.

[@VesperalTV]

Thankyou so much dude!

[@r3aper943]

Thank you. Could u please give me ur UI link?

[@VesperalTV]

new video just dropped!

[@shämpo-4]

Fire mage now is completly dogo, no ST dmg and AOE is kinda okay but not something to play in higher keys sadly

[@a.a.6464]

i liked boomy a lot in the past, but this looks not cool. I will give mage, SP and devo evoker a try. Idk as arcan mage when to spend your "4orbs" when to clearcast - maybe i need to just play it to get into it :D

[@connorwhiteside9077]

Heyo I’m gonna be famous! I’m that lil warrior in there 😂🍻

[@TooMuchTuna7]

Geez you stink…jk😂

[@33-117]

I multiclass, I enjoy most of the classes design, although I dont particularly like healer damage. If I'm healing I'd rather just heal. Like casting MW over fistweaving MW anyday. It's mostly the game systems that are the main impairment. PvP needs to reduce the amount of time it takes to get people into and for that to happen the solo on ramp needs to not come with such a heavy time gate. RSS taxes you on queue time then it takes that time in queue and makes you gamble it in larger chunks essentially double dipping in time taxation for the player base. The entire point of RSS was a mode for players who didnt want to spend the TIME social networking. If the core system prevents it from fufilling that purpose it needs to be scrapped

[@DuoSpear]

I hoped survial hunter would appear at least but when u said unholy was the best melee, my hope was crushed.

[@imthrillz5255]

Probably gonna be druid like always when everything settles down in TWW

[@SkyPanda52]

Time to make a mage for War Within for sure!

[@nenadmomcilovic386]

Thank you for great video. Could you pretty please, good Sir give me ur UI link? Love it how you have it on ur screen.

[@VesperalTV]

just released my UI in my new video!

[@patrikschroner2154]

And what do you mean about warrior ? Furry/arms

[@wjgm5229]

This is why you should just play whatever you enjoy no matter if op or not. Who cares! Video games are about having fun!

[@VesperalTV]

True! But some people have fun playing the best classes

[@j03h]

Weird question: what glasses are you wearing?

[@VesperalTV]

theyre raybans! no idea what make unfortunately but they're clear

[@vonnerseite]

The best Class in the Game Warrior

[@XqwztInteriors]

I'm going to play rogue even though they are complete and utter hot mess garbage in M+ If they made garrote/rupture apply to all enemies all the time, and didnt have stealth requirement & made Slice & Dice baseline it would fix 95% of the class problems but we'll see

[@adamcathcart8519]

Good luck with that

[@Tihomir21]

Arcane was stealth nerfed again herd it last night. During tgp should be on next update

[@jakewhite215]

what did they nerf? Can't find any info?

[@DaimyoTV]

good clip but no way is frost the 'tankiest' mage spec. nothing beats cauterize, full stop, but arcane's passive dmg reductions vs magic dmg come pretty close. frost is last. maybe you meant tankiest in solo content, like Delves, but that has more to do with the constant snares and roots instead of defensives.

[@VesperalTV]

I think they’re all very close, a good frost mage will utilise both blocks and they get a reset on their barrier. Idk I think there’s an argument for both but regardless mage is just tanky af

[@Kadebou]

I will play WW monk

[@MissCloud9]

Think I'm sticking with my Pres Main but might alt the others here.

[@Nimora]

Can't wait for next week's Shirtless video!

[@VesperalTV]

HUH

[@virulentskills225]

never heard of mage being the favored child tbh, always heard warlock

[@pooky088]

at 16:58 it looks like you have an extra hot streak, is that a new talent ?

[@VesperalTV]

That’s hyperthermia, it’s a talent or you get it once your Phoenix fades with sunfury - makes your pyros instant and guaranteed crits so you don’t even need to fire blast

[@alsius9162]

Did not expect evoker

[@TheShawnMower]

Augmentation alone is going to be mandatory in all serious content. Easy win. Preservation and Devastation are both fun and their hero talents are rock solid and add a lot. The only thing I think I'd like is more range on evoker and ability to see my transmog more while in form OR stay out of form in combat.

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

​@@TheShawnMowerfor preservation evoker the range of heals will forever make me hate that class.

[@AntonKlermon]

​@TheShawnMower nobody will take devastation when aug is meta

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

​@AntonKlermon but aug is so boring to me.

[@realicepick285]

drop that platter profile fam.

[@VesperalTV]

In a few weeks! I’d love to drop it now but it’s not finished yet, you can grab the DF version in my discord!

[@lostheboss7938]

3 classes I wanted to play anyway LFG

[@StephenWilliamson-j5u]

All classes are viable, please don't choose a main based on tier lists. :) The lists are fun and educational, but doesn't understand playstyles.

[@lordshadow19]

Some are more viable than others. Up until the recent tank nerfs, Blood DK was the best tank in beta while Frost is top tier in dps

[@godlike69r]

this plus when they are not top 1% for content. you will be able to be in the top 5% on any spec/class/hero talents if your a quality player

[@sadza18]

There is no single reason why would anyone want Devastation Evoker in m+ team. Nohing special that other classes dont have

[@Tom-hn5hn]

Everyone saying sub rogue is bad and annoying to play.. therefore I want to play it. Am I the only one?

[@petersimon2619]

The best class is that mustache

[@AntonKlermon]

I played season 3 with mage. Defence is...super proactive. Passive defense is nothing. On my ret pala i can tank and on mage i die with blew of the wind.

[@IAmSaveRio]

Yep, it's next level defensive capability if you're playing 3 seconds ahead haha

[@Saimeren]

Your camera position makes me dizzy. lol. I don't know how you can play with the camera top down like that.

[@rodrigobarreto6890]

Doubt, for single target which is better, arcane mage or fire mage?? and for AOE M+ which is better, arcane mage or fire mage? I want to play arcane mage or fire mage, but I'm not sure which one will be better in TWW... Arcane mage I already played in classic WOTLK, I know a little about the spec XDD

[@adamcathcart8519]

Just play a fkn mage?

[@rodrigobarreto6890]

@@adamcathcart8519 ?? dont understand..

[@TheShawnMower]

... play all 3 specs and figure it out lol

[@coryeskes7686]

Day 1 of begging for a full Stache'd Vesperal.

[@VesperalTV]

LOL

[@ciocolici]

where is rogue??? (joking)

[@Antrakt92]

No way! No hunter? Cant believe

[@VesperalTV]

Hunter is good! But hero talents let it down and BM is still stale

[@tq6669]

I quit! 😂

[@Black_Lotus_]

05:05

[@mowintv]

Hey man I like your content, but while watching your melee characters you tend to do a side to side movement ever second that is a bit annoying to watch. I understand that it is probably just to keep your movement fluid, but casual video content it isn't fun to watch. Anyway keep up the content and I will watch regardless of the small things!

[@VesperalTV]

Yeah it’s annoying habit I have, I think it’s like an internal timer for me to press my next button

[@kckillakrack9714]

Mage and monk best two

[@VesperalTV]

Monk was close for sure

[@thunderleg6605]

Mage-or rework...

[@VesperalTV]

Lmaooo

[@captainnero8632]

its a fucking game dude play whatever the fuck you want you dont have to compare yourself to anyone

[@eco999]

Now do Rogues. Let's have a laugh! /cry

[@ardazeybek2363]

every fucking expension mages are op... You can blind pick for mages...

[@cyrilpeyer5584]

Rogue in the thumbnail with this tittle? Good joke XD

[@giorno9840]

I hear you on the Frost and Unholy stuff but the prepatch rework to deathstrike is really bad for blood’s sustain

[@MrSinxs]

kind of weird not to mention the recent tank nerfs announced because it changes quite a bit. Blood DK got dumpstered

[@VesperalTV]

It really didn’t, all tanks are saying blood almost feels better and that across the board the tanks don’t really feel that different

[@Abscenity.]

Very true. Played bdk in a couple 10s post nerfs, and in some pulls I did, I was able to burst 3.8 mil hps. Granted, I overpulled purposefully for testing purposes post nerfs. Not to mention deathbringer bdk actually slams damage. With an aug in a 10 stonevault, I did 754k overall. Actual insanity. If you were familiar with bdk before, it does not feel much different after the nerfs and, most definitely, did not get "dumpstered".

[@MrSinxs]

@@Abscenity. Fair enough, I just dont understand how the Death Strike change could ever feel good in anyway. I understand that if played correctly you dont really spam it, but even so its a big ol' nerf for their self sustain.. Perhaps the hero talents make up for it???

[@rodneyhorsley8601]

The best class? The one you enjoy.

[@jakewhite215]

Hard to enjoy some classes when they do not get updated for 3 expansions tho

[@whenindoubtpressx2742]

First comment secured

[@VesperalTV]

EZ

[@rodrigobarreto6890]

From what I understand so far, arcane and fire mage are TWW's top 3 tier list.. I've always played hunter, but I'm willing to switch to mage..... arcane mage the best SPEC for TWW, then ?? arcane mage and fire mage top 3 specs for TWW, right ? hahaha ! And I don't understand why MM and BM hunter are weak in the current tier list.. xDD

[@jesuscollazo4303]

Then my hunter comes get shit on lol mages rug lol 😝

[@drpeppaerdrpeppaer5434]

Tank top....just no....

[@Delfree77]

Everyone knows dk are the best

[@MrDoctorDave]

Delete Aug

[@loldehuge]

Firemage WELL Designed?? HAHA....joke.

[@jakewhite215]

The TWW Fire Mage looks awesome now

[@razpaqhvh7501]

bro look at arms lmao

[@CaughtColdBoxing]

Turned off when he said evoker

[@shianova]

As much as you hate it, Augvoker is now the single best spec in the game with the tank nerfs

[@kyleg9765]

THEY NEED TO REMOVE EVOKER FROM THE GAME

[@chrisstich5971]

Than remove DH too

[@rodrigobarreto6890]

Arcane mage the best spec for TWW , then ?? arcane and fire mage is IP for TWW, right ?? From what I understand so far, arcane and fire mage are TWW's top 3 tier list.. I've always played hunter, but I'm willing to switch to mage

[@SonOfTheImam]

@@rodrigobarreto6890 Bro, hunter is even better with the rework that they got. Stick with the class you comfortable with. You could always alt mage or any other spec. Don’t limit yourself 💪🏼

[@godlike69r]

arcane is legit broken bad look at the top mages talking about how bad it is its a dps loss to use ur final hero talent how dumb lol..

[@m_rod9562]

assa rogue, easy. dont even have to watch the video

[@AntonKlermon]

Hard copium bro

[@m_rod9562]

@@AntonKlermon put me down gently, bro T_T

[@alexandremarechal9450]

Second

[@relentless5150]

bald xdd

[@Morfajzer]

your mom