Formex makes some pretty slick bracelets. There is a reason for this. The father of Formex's CEO owns a Swiss bracelet manufacturer called Dexel SA. Dexel has all of the patents on the Formex bracelet clasp designs.
@razzlemankd9 ай бұрын
I was really struggling to work out how to use the butterfly deployment clasp on a Hamilton Pan Europ, I'd just received today, but after seeing the one on your wrist, the grey watch, I managed to work it out, so a massive thank you 👍
@auyeungowl207510 ай бұрын
Sometimes the length of strip govers the position of the clasp on your wrist. Seiko was designed for smaller wrists of Japanese. Larger wrist would be better with a longer strip at clasp side.
@dinner_workingsly3 жыл бұрын
I’m a lady wrister at 6.5” and the ocean crawler rubber strap that comes with the clasp has been the best for me so far. I think only because both ends of the strap itself are equal length. I’ve tried the same clasp with other straps but it sits in the wrong spot because the buckle side of most straps are shorter.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
With wrists being so different in size and shape, you'd think someone would figure out a way to have a more tailored strap option (aside from getting a bespoke one made, which I think is the route a lot of folks go). Barton kinda tried with their silicone straps, where they'd send you too straps together, one long and one short. Some offer different size length straps when you order, like Weiss. And then, imho, Formex is currently doing it best with these adjustable deployant clasps. But, I'm hoping someone will figure out a "one size fits all" solution that includes strap length and built-in adjustments, because that seems like it'd be a grand slam!
@jimwatchyyc2 жыл бұрын
Folding clasp.
@carbondragon Жыл бұрын
I have a Formex Reef and I got a rubber strap additionally with it with that clasp. I tried putting the strap on another watch but it had metal pieces at the end which caused it to not fit on any other watch (and was hard to after that remove) but I did get it off. Then I tried to fit it to other straps I had. If the straps were in any way thick, the clasp I had wouldn't work. I found a very thin rubber strap it would fit on but fitting the strap to the clasp was very difficult because it was hard to get the pins in and out, especially if the strap didn't have any give as rubber straps do. And when I did, the place where the tongue was didn't look great but I did ultimately succeed in using the clasp. It's a good mechanism, but it's not really designed to be used on any straps but theirs, they make it very hard IMHO. I have a different, but somewhat similar strap which doesn't have those characteristics, BUT the strap under the clasp tends to stick out on top by my wrist or on the bottom, it doesn't want to stay in the middle (which is annoying).
@bojannikolow14622 жыл бұрын
I ordered a ESSENCE "BUTTERFLY" CLASP WITH FINE ADJUSTMENT and wanna buy it again, but they sale it not more. This is genius Clasp.
@barrettwbenton27 күн бұрын
Pretty wild that you show this: I bought that very Seiko strap/clasp combo for my SARB017 Alpinist (yes, with the mediocre strap), and positively *love* it. But - I have a 6-3/4-7" wrist (depending on the season), a good deal smaller than yours, and this points out how much of a difference this makes (and why it's great that so many deployant options there are for straps…I don't have a single leather strap without a deployant strap now).
@derbywinner63162 жыл бұрын
Female viewer with a small wrist 14.65 mm I do have a Oris with the “Hamilton “ deployment clasp . Learning how to change the watch bands.Thank you .
@DesignAtelier3 жыл бұрын
very informative! i bet the seiko clasp curve was designed for tiny asian wrists like mine.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha, I'm pretty sure you're spot on! Kinda like the standard straps on a Laco are made for huge wrists like mine.
@amundbjerve Жыл бұрын
One aspect that you should consider is how secure does the clasp hold the strap by the hole. I've received a Habring2 a couple of weeks ago on a deployment clasp (a premium watch which gives a solid impression, but with a disappointing quality both to the pin buckle, deployant clasp and the mesh bracelet that also came with the watch), and now the little hook or pin on the clasp easily comes out of the strap hole, and the watch could easily fall off. Your Hamilton clasp seems to lock the strap securely when the clasp is closed. For that reason alone, this would be my favourite clasp in your video. I had to find a 3rd party butterfly clasp I had bought for something else which is more secure than the original Habring2 clasp, but maybe still less secure than your Hamilton clasp.
@CarlosGarcia-fw6vu Жыл бұрын
I have the same strap type on my TAG Heuer and I love it, very comfortable and elegant.
@mrbacchus61273 жыл бұрын
The Formex deployant looks amazing, almost makes me want a Formex by itself. I bought a C. Ward leather with a baden deployant and it is ultra comfortable. Better yet got it as part of a clearance sale for $35
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I'll look up the baden deployant and maybe give it a try. I love these Formex ones, but they aren't cheap. I'd love to find a similar option at a better price point.
@markedfortime3 жыл бұрын
Oh brother...you're the first person I've ever heard complain about the same experience I've had with deployant clasps. I have a 7.5" wrist and always felt the digging into my wrist. The Formex looks awesome. Butterfly clasps buttons can dig in on either side of the bracelet, but worse, if the clasp is too curved, it'll dig in at either end, which gets old quick. I need to wear them loose because my wrist changes a lot during the day. I have a Ball with a butterfly, that tapers down to 18mm...its a dream to wear. The underside has an almost flat curve, so on a large wrist, it doesn't dig in at all.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you! You're definitely not alone in that experience. And, I think the most significant factor to it digging in is based upon how much curve it has. And thanks for mentioning that Ball butterfly clasp. I'll have to check one of those out.
@private4642 жыл бұрын
Christopher Ward deployant clasp on their REALLY nice Cordovan leather is VERY good. I have the black and the blue ones...and really like them. Formex looks good, but is very expensive.
@seanpie54813 жыл бұрын
Hello. My Tissot Couturier came with a leather strap and butterfly clasp the just sat badly on the upper inside of wrist. It looks great and I’ve tried to like it but it is a no go. As a skinny waisted adolescent (40+ years ago) I remember mounting bracelets the other way around to get them to sit better. Discovered this by accident when I put my Seiko Sports 100 on backwards. Cheers from Melbourne, Australia.
@engineer_wannabe3 жыл бұрын
Great video, my friend! I found the Seiko deployants to be fairly painful as well! Will have to check out Formex’s deployant!
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
The Formex has much less of a curve, compared to the Seiko. I think that's the biggest factor to the overall comfort, no matter what size or shape wrist.
@MKGamingInvesting Жыл бұрын
2:02 A headshot. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT NEVER SEEN THAT COOL THING OF A WATCH. Made advertisement for Hamilton
@mmadchef8082 жыл бұрын
I have an Oris Aquis which has a similar design on rubber….main difference is that is has a lot greater adjustability on the fly. Very comfortable as well.
@jasonkusters5607 Жыл бұрын
I’m ordering the clasp now
@ahmadghufran8117 Жыл бұрын
How’s the clasp? Was looking at this or the Artem ones.
@GregJGreen Жыл бұрын
I just picked up a Seiko Neo SUR305 and want to buy a deployant clasp for it, but I'm not sure which one to go with yet. Great vid, thanks.
@SoCalWatchReviews3 жыл бұрын
Great topic man and that Formex ❤️
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@67tagada3 күн бұрын
Formex is the best !
@cantbreakdance28492 жыл бұрын
Just bend the seiko clasp more straight if it bothers you?
@watchound.bernardo97382 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that detailed explanation. It's a hassle when a strap is between adjustment holes. I've been looking for an "omega style" (in fact introduced by Cartier in 1910) deployant clasp and the Formex is the winner, Artem is also an option. I have a few questions though. It seems the Formex clasp has two pins for the strap holes holding the clasp in place. Would this clasp fit most straps, considering the distance between straps holes? Yours fits great as the tail end of the strap seats before the curvature of the clasp. If the tail end extended further and overlayed the clasp hinge (most likely in smaller wrists) would it be comfortable or bulky? Much appreciated.
@mauriciolguin Жыл бұрын
Too much curvature is always bad. I flatten my butterfly clasps because I cannot tolerate them otherwise. You can flat them with a hammer, I use one of those that has plastic ends.
@DirkWerning3 жыл бұрын
That Formax is great. Got a loaner of that model I should have bought 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
It is sweet!
@RaphaelRousseau3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bracelet guy, but some watches have nice straps, or I envision having a custom strap made (stingray). But I generally have issues with each and every strap, 'cause my sweet spot falls between 2 holes... So either I'm forced to wear them too tight or too loose :-( I'm planning acquiring the Formex clasp (alone), to avoid having a great strap but not wearing it for clasp insufficiencies...
@MrZanzibar1233 жыл бұрын
Same here. Seems like that Formex deployment would be great with custom stingray band
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
I have the same experience far too often, where I too am between two holes on a strap. I've found that adjustable bracelets work really well, like the new Zelos ones, the CWs, and the Ginault bracelet. But, when it comes to straps, I'm always at the very end of the strap and almost always in between holes. In fact, I'm wearing the Zelos Mirage 8-day today on the rubber strap, and I'm on the 2nd-to-last hole, even though I wish there was a hole between to use because it's either too tight or too loose. imho, the Formex deployant clasp with built-in adjustments would remedy this problem.
@RaphaelRousseau3 жыл бұрын
@@HorologyinSanity, love the on-the-fly clasp of the Blacktip, indeed!
@JWomack2 жыл бұрын
Omega is the original single-fold "tuck under". Breitling and Tag Heuer have the same design except both are infinitely adjustable i.e. no holes. No need for micro adjust. I have a couple Omegas with this style and a Heuer Monaco which all have this style. I buy them separately along with straps and because I won't wear any other style. The Breitling and Heuer straps are somewhat interchangeable with a Heuer clasp provided the strap is thin enough. Breitling clasps accept a thicker strap typically while the Heuer clasp has less tolerance.
@ricchrono59072 жыл бұрын
Have you had any experience with the Artem clasp, seems like they are receiving a lot praises too, I wonder how do they stack up.
@HorologyinSanity2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I was just looking at their sailcloth straps and noticed that they also sell several different clasps. At first glance, I don't think theirs have built-in microadjust, like the Formex do. But, I could be wrong. I may need to try one out someday soon.
@stephenthumb29123 жыл бұрын
Great outro, Brother. Yep, it's a pleasant fun hobby. If it isn't fun it isn't worth it.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never know if people will get my sentiment behind my outro, so it's great to hear your feedback. Appreciate it!
@RonInNapa2 жыл бұрын
I really dislike butterfly clasps. I have not yet found one that does not release accidentally by just bending the wrist or tucking under a sleeve. Scissor deployants are superior in every way, but they also need a positive lock such as a push-button or fold-over safety. Some scissor clasps are friction-type and can easily open by rubbing against something.
@donspaulding33432 жыл бұрын
I have a cheap ($16) from Long Island and it has never released on its own, but is a pain to get on!
@Defender-Guy10 ай бұрын
I’d love to put my Hirsch Robby on a Formex but per their website, it’s too thick at over 3mm. Any idea if it will fit?
@WizardWatch3 жыл бұрын
Formex is a killa brand !
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
It really is. I was skeptical of them at first, kinda thought they were a gimmick or a "high end" version of Nixon. But, the more I mess with them, the more I love em!
@LaFritePerreGoat3 жыл бұрын
Formex should definitly think about selling those clasp in different size to fit 18 20 22 mm strap. I just want to retrofit every leather strap I have with one. Best aftermarket clasp I use is the rios 1931 ones wich better build than the entry level one sold everywhere. Cheaper but not on level with those formex with micro adjust. Killer feature. Artem clasps seems to be well received for the same price bracket.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Formex could make their clasps a thing for many collectors, especially if they could get the prices down on them a bit. From an engineering and quality standpoint, they are top notch! But, they're not cheap and they come in limited sizes. Nonetheless, I'll be getting more of them for my Keepers.
@alsaba52033 жыл бұрын
Try home made inventions... I've done minimalistic version, by myself. Type:"Update3. Homemade Nato strap. GW-M5610." Whatever looks, works. P.s few months ago I've done another " update" very similar to newest G5000TVA-1. I mean "red accent ", nice thing to realise that designer of casio like the same things. " Bund strap 5610 update2"
@Shongi853 жыл бұрын
I have the same bad experience with the Hirsch deployant clasp. Bought one for my Robby, but it's just not comfortable, digs into my arm way too much.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
That stinks! Sorry to hear it. But, I know your pain (literally).
@agentnemo2 ай бұрын
is the oris seatbelt clasp in this category?
@u.u.upatreonrequests86792 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Rubber B and it's too short for my 8.5in wrist. What clasp will add an extra inch?
@artieshell92052 жыл бұрын
No links for ….. clasps ?
@glenntorres55532 жыл бұрын
Hi, what strap are you using on the formex? Just got a Formex field and I think that would go well with it
@fariswee75383 жыл бұрын
Thank for you doing this review! I've always wondered how the Formex clasp functions. I'm from Singapore and its super humid over here so i feel micro adjustment is a must as my wrist size changes drastically during the day. But the price of 135 dollars for a clasp is too much for me.
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's there biggest downfall... the Formex clasps are WAY too expensive imho. (then again, I think their watches are way too expensive too at MSRP) I'm not sure how long it'll take for AliExpress to have something similar at a fraction of the price, but I'm keeping an eye out.
@fariswee75383 жыл бұрын
@@HorologyinSanity Tag heuer style clasps are pretty good to me too and dosent dig into my wrist. The only downside is it only works on really thin straps
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
@@fariswee7538 That's good to know.
@stevec25693 жыл бұрын
I just got the formex deployment clasp today and I was wondering what strap are you using yours on? It looks like nylon
@musabthegreat2 жыл бұрын
I think it's canvas strap
@gs21622 жыл бұрын
DEPLOYANT
@roycropper420 Жыл бұрын
Does the grey strap come with the formex watch and deployant clasp?
@peterr74372 жыл бұрын
got a tag divers and the clasp is like yours it digs in but being titanium didnt want to try and take a bit of the curve out
@Payton773 ай бұрын
Is this also an omega clasp?
@MyAlan9993 жыл бұрын
There was another reviewer who hated the Formex clasp , it dug into his 7 1/2 inch wrist ...... so much so he seems to think all the reviews not complaining about the clasp must be paid reviews :)
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha. Well, I can assure you my videos are not paid for. And, I love these Formex clasps. That does remind me though... I'm thinking about doing a video about my ethical standards for monetizing this channel now that we can monetize it. Do you think subscribers would enjoy that, even though it's not really watch related? I mean, it wouldn't become the overall theme of the channel or anything, but in a world where almost everyone is doing paid reviews (and most do not disclose that fact), I want to be transparent about this channel and how we intend to keep free from conflicts of interest. What do you think? Is that worth making a video about?
@teekanee2 жыл бұрын
I don't own Formex watches but I use two Formex clasps. They differ in width (18 and 20mm). The 20mm one has a longer folding mechanism and a strong curvature, which is very uncomfortable to me. The 18mm clasp is shorter and has a nice curvature - to me the best deployant clasp I ever used! You can buy the clasps separately via their website, but they are described very poorly, so you can't decide, which one could fit your needs.
@Danielo1973 жыл бұрын
Cool clasp
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
I think so too
@Phloored2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how thick of a strap this clasp can handle?
@Phloored2 жыл бұрын
Anybody know?
@Phloored2 жыл бұрын
FYI- heard back from formex and the answer is 2.5mm thick.
@naveen_dj2 жыл бұрын
what type of deployment clasp is it ?? i know about butterfly clasp but i dont know the name of this "L-Shaped Clasp"
@gs21622 жыл бұрын
DEPLOYANT
@jimwatchyyc2 жыл бұрын
Folding clasp.
@SaSpursFan Жыл бұрын
roller over
@FullJikama6 ай бұрын
Wake and bake
@martinoamello30172 жыл бұрын
Gotta try me a Formex.. I go through straps like socks and a bit tired of ten dollar deployment styles.. 10? did I say ten dollars? I must be turning into my dad..
@gs21622 жыл бұрын
DEPLOYANT
@paulaxton723 ай бұрын
Citizen ecodrive Navihawk has an evil clasp.
@samanthaevilsizer78233 жыл бұрын
That pointy clasp looks painful!
@HorologyinSanity3 жыл бұрын
It was!
@TheoSmith2492 жыл бұрын
@@HorologyinSanity I have bent mine flatter. Works fine
@bushido0072 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t look sturdy
@cantbreakdance28492 жыл бұрын
It's some kind of injection moulded carbon fiber material.... pretty sure its sturdy enough. But will it last for a decade? Noone knows
@tk423b Жыл бұрын
Get into microphones.
@fmartmart80993 жыл бұрын
Get a new schtick man
@thomaslinton10012 жыл бұрын
"DE PLOY' MENT" TO BE DEPLOYED TO A GIVEN AREA,
@HorologyinSanity2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't think I'm tracking you. Are you suggesting that these types of watch clasps be called "deployment clasps" instead of "deployant clasps"? Like, are you referring to the terminology usage?
@thomaslinton10012 жыл бұрын
@@HorologyinSanity "Deployant" has the same meaning as "deployment" only in French. Why Emglish speaker use it is a mustery. Liek "nitch" being replaced by the French "niche" with the French pronunciation. Affectations. Oh well, we still have "weekend," "motorcycle," and "OK."
@TysonHook-22- Жыл бұрын
@@thomaslinton1001 You must be new to watch terminology, we've all been there. The industry has long used "deployment" clasp and "deployant clasp" as distinguishers between the different clasp types used on watches since technically all watch clasps... even buckles are "deployable". A bracelet "deployment clasp" typically just referred to as a "watch clasp". is a clasp used to attach together a watch bracelet. A "deployant clasp" refers to a clasp that attaches to a watch strap in place of a buckle... ex. leather, rubber & canvas straps.
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
@@TysonHook-22- I've only ever heard of a "deployant" clasp for something that replaces a pinbuckle. I never seen or heard anyone say "deployment" for anything watch related, unless they are using "deployant" incorrectly. If it's not a deployant then it's just a clasp. Glidelock, easylink... or generically a twin trigger clasp with or without foldover, and with our without (on the fly) microadjustment. "Deployment" is more of a military thing... "yeah I got laid heaps in Vietnam on deployment with the US Army" ...