What is The Best Echo Item? - LEAGUES 5 LEAKS DAY 3

[@BubbaOSRS]

More Clarity for T to not cause confusion. You DO have to have full crystal equipped for the blessing to effect all other melee weapons besides just Saeldor!

[@UIM_Moose]

@BubbaOSRS Yeah it's still the worst region by a long shot even with the blessing imo

[@BubbaOSRS]

@@UIM_Moose XD

[@vitosantigem9670]

If they made a crystal quiver that held bolts and arrows AND had the set effect of wearing crystal without needing it for all three combat stats then we can talk.

[@TheDonrodryx]

Pretty sure crystal is BiS armor for melee now

[@UIM_Moose]

@TheDonrodryx the jewellery from Fremmy is better than the blessing from Tirannwn, I'm pretty certain it's more damage and accuracy for melee, and it's really good for mage and range too.

[@Teeteeteeteetee-w4m]

Tiranwnn-Fremmy-Varlamore sound SO fun - Crystal Armor+Blessing for pray bonus and +15% melee dmg (and easy bowfa hybrid), Fremmy for cranked jewellery, Varlamore for Sunlight spear and Moons armour - only shame is no raid to go punish with your ridiculously OP setup 🥵

[@juliangonzalez3749]

Varlamore kourend desert lookin fun to me

[@Ohanrahan]

V/K/D is exactly what i was gonna pick... as of right now. V because i wanted to learn Colo anyway. Kourend because its just a sick region that offers a massive points/value. Desert because i am gonna go harpoon and i think its gonna be fun at Tempoross (read : melt Tempoross) ofcourse it can change in the future but those are exactly my region picks as of now.

[@kenshin1368]

Zeah seems pretty trash to me. Definitely the worst raids rewards. Unless DWH and Elder Maul become completely necessary for bossing, the region offers nothing. Most any region will get you Virtus and buckler/DHC/Claws/Kodai are all basically useless. Farming/WC/FM are very easily solved skills, and it has a ton of terrible grinds with no great rewards like Hydra, Aerial Fishing, and Sarachnis.

[@benetnasch2096]

This really makes me wish that we could get rid of the region lock thing. The fact that these bosses are supposed to have new mechanics especially. If I'm interested in learning to fight all the new bosses with all their new mechanics, or interested in trying out all the new weapons with different armor combos, I'd need to play on like 5 accounts at least. It's really cringe to see cool new content added to the game but be told you simply aren't allowed to interact with all of it. Honestly, I think region locking is also the reason why Leagues player count tanks in only 3 weeks because you complete everything you want to do in your given regions too quickly. It also sucks that it fragments clan and friend groups. Last year being my first Leagues had me spending a lot of time disappointed when I'd say "hey man, wanna do CoX with me?" only to be told "can't, I didn't take Kourend" "Well how about we do ToA?" - "Nah, didn't take desert either"

[@kenshin1368]

Its crazy that the hardest boss in the game drops something thats probably worse than the KBD's weapon. Desert still super powerful though. BP will be BiS range even if you don't specialize into range and you get BiS range/mage and sorta melee. (no melee amour though)

[@DaeDogGaming]

1 boss per day ahahahaha? Would have at least been 3-4 per day, they don't waste/use filler sneak peaks like that xD (was also surprised they did all of them at once though) wish they would have made T's echo the rabbit though.

[@linguotgr]

I’m not sold on Morytania, Zeah, or Tiranwin being all that great. But Fremmy just went way up on my list. Most of the stuff shown is pretty competitive with the raid gear we get anyway, but the ring/amulet seems like it’s just the biggest flat out buff that you can get.

[@Big_Pharma2.0]

I think the big thing about mory is do that have some type of weapon mastery that can reduce the amount of items you need for the set effect. If so I think it becomes one of the strongest ones. Like 50% to heal what you hit with guthans. 50% to ignore defense and just a flat 14 prayer bonus with veracs etc just becomes crazy strong if you don’t need to actually use the whole set.

[@UIM_Moose]

@@linguotgr I already rate the barrows sets quite highly, and the set effects doubling will make using them for things like raids a lot better than you'd think.

[@thenumbertrenton]

To be honest with mory it makes ahrims bis dps armor with the 50% chance to deal 60% more damage, it best virtus by around 15% overall

[@kenshin1368]

@@thenumbertrenton Its only an increased chance to do 30% more damage. Still real good but not insane.

[@kenshin1368]

Zeah seems pretty trash to me. Definitely the worst raids rewards. Unless DWH and Elder Maul become completely necessary for bossing, the region offers nothing. Most any region will get you Virtus and buckler/DHC/Claws/Kodai are all basically useless. Farming/WC/FM are very easily solved skills, and it has a ton of terrible grinds with no great rewards like Hydra, Aerial Fishing, and Sarachnis. Not to mention it has terrible early/mid upgrades. Mory offers a ton of good upgrades for every style, and the bloodfury will be great until you get fremmy. But yeah, Z, T, and K are pretty easily my bottom three in that order.

[@redbearwoodall]

Tiranwynn is even more dead than before with the desert blowpipe. No reason whatsoever to pick it for a ranged build, still useless for mage, and this slight buff to melee is not gonna pull anyone from other melee regions like Asgarnia, Varlamore, and now wildy.

[@livezezian6900]

its bis melee armor and ez point region. it will definitely be picked

[@thenumbertrenton]

imagine the herpori drop with gauntlet echo tho, super ranged dps but its fully melee lol. It's probably gonna be for points grinders and troll builds.

[@neogeo5673]

Drunk

you are the goat

[@KGAGamer]

I was already locking in Varlamore as it has way too much utility and i wanted to learn colloseum. Now theres just even more reason.

[@xxeroxxasxx_653]

My exact reason why I’m picking varlamore too. It has a lot of utility and resourcefulness to pass up on and I want to really test myself against echo sol after learning colo. Gonna pull up with that wildy shit too lol

[@alexhill9423]

@@xxeroxxasxx_653Yeahh I was thinking that too to use the khopesh at Colo + the hunleff blessing

[@joshholmes1372]

T is bait for melee imo

[@Teeteeteeteetee-w4m]

Well it is bait for Ranged too since Desert has Masori and what will probably be the highest raw DPS weapon in the entire league.

[@maxoneil9198]

Wonder if the echo bosses have same drop table as normal boss or just drops the new item's

[@gnumeta3959]

They drop their normal loot as well

[@BubbaOSRS]

Same drop table with the same drop rates for any other uniques

so do you reckon you kill all 3 dks for the echo crystal to drop or can drop from either ?

[@UIM_Moose]

This made me think about dropping the desert and picking up mory instead...

[@BubbaOSRS]

Definitely second guessing my 3rd region

[@UIM_Moose]

@BubbaOSRS I'm currently going with zeah, mory, and fremmy... until tomorrow's reveal at least lol

[@wasou2938]

​@@UIM_Moose just curious, what's your choice for this based on. This seems like what I would be wanting but I'm curious why you're doing it too haha

[@UIM_Moose]

@wasou2938 Frem's jewellery is really op and basically best in slot for all 3 styles, then with Mory having barrows juiced up so much, there's just so much versatility and you can use it to get into the later game PvM and Raids, Zeah for me is about skilling options mostly as well as CoX, though I'm not super fussed on the Hespori Salamander atm, it might turn out to be really good.

[@wasou2938]

@@UIM_Moose thanks! Hopefuly there's a tribrid option for combat masteries!

[@iWearCapesIRL]

no staff..wtf

[@BubbaOSRS]

I didn't even realize... Seems they wanted to force region synergy for mage, just intentionally stacking more in Kandarin

[@UIM_Moose]

Kinda crap that you can't use the kandarin stuff with the shadow, but the gloves from mory might be good if you get ahrims, assuming it works like that. Edit: forgot ahrims needs staff for set effect lol

[@tuncqboi]

Staff from CG would’ve been insane

[@Big_Pharma2.0]

@@UIM_Moose on I’m hyped for mory something I’m really hoping to see is some type of combat mastery that lets you get a set effect with less items. Like only needing 2-3 pieces to get the effect rather than 4

[@dominater5]

​@@BubbaOSRSI'm going magic and I'm going fremenik over kandarin after this reveal. Ammy + ring better than occult + tormented and you get wrath runes and lunars

[@deviouschimp4663]

Magic really got shafted. Almost no benefits to powered staves, and the strongest option is only relevant on enemies with an elemental weakness.... Like I feel bad for any magic enthusiasts.

[@dominater5]

The huge buff to magic is taking fremenik instead of kandarin and getting 5% more magic damage and being able to train construction and get wrath runes.

[@Ookalaable]

@@dominater5 cant make wrath runes without K lmao They kinda messed up the mage pathing.

[@dominater5]

@@Ookalaable vorkath drops wrath runes in semi decent amounts

[@Ookalaable]

@@dominater5 it drops some. whether thats enough for a main style (if we even have one) is yet to be seen. Hard to say anything for certain till we see masteries.

[@dominater5]

@@Ookalaable very true.