What is the Best MTB Suspension Design? | Shop Talk

What is the Best MTB Suspension Design? | Shop Talk | The Pro’s Closet

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@Spoolingturbski Ай бұрын

4 bars, 4 pivots Horst link. There was tons of testing done on this at great cost by both Canyon and Cannondale. Just because it’s old technology doesn’t mean it can’t be refined. That’s like saying the Porsche 911 is bad because of its design. The VPP is great but that doesn’t mean it’s the best. Guys like this don’t normally appreciate mechanics.

@kylelongstaff Ай бұрын

Maybe im bias because I work at trek but comparing servicing most u link frames and crazy integrated pivots to servicing a Trek bike is a wild difference. Sure some companies do similar stuff to Trek, but im not a fan of the crazy looking stuff its not easy to service and has more points of failure imo.

@floydblandston108 Жыл бұрын

Paul Turner's 'Monolink' is the best, most elegant performance suspension ever designed.

@LaurentiusTriarius 11 ай бұрын

I'm also a fan of the looks I'd like to find one to try locally, idk if it's nostalgia it reminds me of my LTS, which was pretty fragile and I had a ton of issues with it but it's still one of my favorite bikes of all time...

@civilstructural Жыл бұрын

agree, VPP is the best for me, I have used almost all system, anothing like Santa Cruz VPP.

@theproscloset Жыл бұрын

🙌

@michaelcafaro4022 2 жыл бұрын

The Horst link does everything okay and companies are using this design that was adopted from 1980’s dirt bike engineering till this day. With todays technology companies are able to refine this so called archaic technology that just works well. The paten ran out and some bicycle manufacturers are jumping on the band wagon. I wish Kona would put the pivot on the chain stay instead of the seat stay and swallow their pride. I have purchased many Kona’s and I think they suck. Salsa’s split pivot works better hands down.

@Justcruzn831 2 жыл бұрын

DW link bikes are the best reviewed bikes by fkkkknnnnnnn farrrr

@tomkruger3496 10 ай бұрын

As a Maestro rider for almost a decade, it’s hard to go wrong with Horst Link.

@erod6468 2 жыл бұрын

Hardtails and Evil DELTA suspension for the win.

@moonmuscle3332 2 жыл бұрын

if you like getting donkey kicked the moment your feet aren't actually perfectly level, yeah delta isn't bad. otherwise fuck that unforgiving race linkage...not a fan

@LaurentiusTriarius 11 ай бұрын

After riding many full sus MTB's I'd say Honda pro link is the best 😂 So... For me well tuned 4+ links are always more compliant and progressive without relying on the shock itself, assuming it's a well tuned design...

@jakeb6703 2 жыл бұрын

shout out to tantrum cycles "missing link" thingy, I really hope I can buy one eventually

@MrMafioza1995 Жыл бұрын

Highpivot with idler ,pulley wheel . rearward axle path.

@edmundhodgson2572 8 күн бұрын

Since shocks have got so good, vpp Isn't really worth the hassle

@benton1531 2 жыл бұрын

VPP🎉

@brentmagerowski7948 5 ай бұрын

Maestro fan.

@dioneconomic662 2 жыл бұрын

Also no Trek floating virtual pivot they had in the fuel ex's and full stache

@BSE75 Жыл бұрын

DW-LINK

@law844 Жыл бұрын

moots ybb soft tail is pretty cool. Unfortunately moots titanium bikes are a lot out of my price range.

@sonofawil 2 жыл бұрын

The bars on a 4-bar don't actually include the shock. In a 4 bar linkage, the bars are the fixed length members that connect 4 points that determine what path the link will travel. In the Horst they go 1) from the lower seat tube pivot to the chain stay pivot, 2) to the pivot at the top of the seat stay, 3) to the upper seat tube pivot (not the shock), and 4) back to the lower seat tub pivot. These 4 bars set the path the wheel will travel in relation to the frame. Even if the shock wasn't there, that wheel would still only be ably to travel this fixed path (albeit loosely with no resistance). The shock is a part of a secondary system connected to the 4-bar that resists movement of the bars by extending a lever arm off of the linkage, the end of which grows and shrinks in relation to another pivot point on the frame.

@Vitsigun Жыл бұрын

Im riding a propain wich has the floating shock nad i love it. So i am no 4 Bar link guy

@158158cow 8 ай бұрын

Propain is a 4-bar setup. Has a co-rotating link just like Santa Cruz

@jmanswat2457 2 жыл бұрын

"WHaut. Is Clint. Doing!?!???!" LOL! This video is nerdy bike comedy gold! But I will say VPP is for people who still think they like Santa Cruz bikes because of the name and originated from California! 🤣

@ericschinn Жыл бұрын

i feel like there was some sort of inside joke when Clint said horst link is the best suspension design

@Sir-Kay Жыл бұрын

You're asking mechanics about bike questions I mean, these people sit all day & get to ride on Sundays. Of course they're going to be biased towards what system is easier for them to service. You should be talking to pros on race day or at least semi-pros on the trail who love to shred a lot.